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Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:02 pm
We have two big home games coming up in the next week.
Plymouth on Saturday and Portsmouth on Tuesday.
I will be there Saturday and possibly again on Tuesday.
I think they are two games we should be winning.
But if Riza wins then both, would you give him the job?
My answer is NO. In my view, these are two of the easiest home games we'll have this season. I still feel we need a manager with Championship experience to get us through the season.
But interested to hear others opinions, and what arguments some may have for giving him the job.
I hope he wins the next two but wouldn't give him the job.
Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:11 pm
Nope, we need someone with more experience.
Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:15 pm
I actually think the club will give Riza the job if City win these next 2 matches.
And in that eventuality, who knows how the rest of the season will pan out.
Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:15 pm
Said all along no wev need knowledgeable coach who have experience in championship ... Two wins won't prove anything other than Bulut had the squad under performing with his tactics.
Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:16 pm
Its a manager who gets us the unexpected points, against the liked of Leeds, Sheff Utd, Burnley etc we need, not one who wins a game we should be winning anyway, so no is my answer.
Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:19 pm
Roath_Blue wrote:Its a manager who gets us the unexpected points, against the liked of Leeds, Sheff Utd, Burnley etc we need, not one who wins a game we should be winning anyway, so no is my answer.
Yeah, that's the way I see it and you've explained it better.
Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:20 pm
Under these Three Clowns running Our Club yes.
Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:40 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Under these Three Clowns running Our Club yes.
So you think he should be given the job? Or did you misread the question? I think the latter.
Wed Oct 16, 2024 5:46 pm
Personally think the board is hoping he wins them so they can employ him as he is the cheap option, we need someone with experience now more than ever
Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:34 pm
Tan always looks for the cheap option . Riza s tactics at Bristol show his naivety . We need someone who is battle hardened to give us momentum
Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:37 pm
Bluebird 67 wrote:Tan always looks for the cheap option . Riza s tactics at Bristol show his naivety . We need someone who is battle hardened to give us momentum
Correct.
Wed Oct 16, 2024 8:42 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Under these Three Clowns running Our Club yes.
So you think he should be given the job? Or did you misread the question? I think the latter.
Annis is saying yes if riza wins the two games tan will give him job. ... as per OP
question
Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:14 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Under these Three Clowns running Our Club yes.
So you think he should be given the job? Or did you misread the question? I think the latter.
Annis is saying yes if riza wins the two games tan will give him job. ... as per OP
question
The OP question is would you give the job, not would Tan give the job, I presume like you said that Annis is saying that the regime would give the job
Wed Oct 16, 2024 9:20 pm
Roath_Blue wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Under these Three Clowns running Our Club yes.
So you think he should be given the job? Or did you misread the question? I think the latter.
Annis is saying yes if riza wins the two games tan will give him job. ... as per OP
question
The OP question is would you give the job, not would Tan give the job, I presume like you said that Annis is saying that the regime would give the job
I used tan as he's head of the regime... but yes Annis is just saying yes to the OP question ...
Wed Oct 16, 2024 11:01 pm
These next 2 Home games are massive for the club - For me I have said that Riza would get the chance to still manage .
It looks like to me that the club are going by game by game with the next International break - Mid Nov .
Thu Oct 17, 2024 6:26 am
Definitely hope not from me to inexperienced we’ve tried the inexperience route doesn’t work
Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:14 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:Roath_Blue wrote:Its a manager who gets us the unexpected points, against the liked of Leeds, Sheff Utd, Burnley etc we need, not one who wins a game we should be winning anyway, so no is my answer.
Yeah, that's the way I see it and you've explained it better.
But we don't know if Riza is capable of getting us wins against those top teams yet, you're assuming he isn't?
I'm not saying I want him to be the permanent manager but he knows the players and the players seem to be responding to his way. If we do win the next 2 games then maybe he deserves a chance especially if we win them by playing good attacking football.
If he does get the job I think it'll only be a contrat until the end of the season anyway.
Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:04 am
I fear, Under our three hapless stooges stewardship - yes!
And Riza would not care a jolt that January would probably see loans and freebies and no budget to improve a bottom of the table side. That’s the reality, so all the names mentioned would have to tackle that. Hardly enticing is it?
Thu Oct 17, 2024 10:15 am
Personally if we win the next two games I’d be tempted to leave Riza in charge until Christmas and see how it pans out
Thu Oct 17, 2024 11:00 am
I am glad the decision s not yours lol
No offence meant
Thu Oct 17, 2024 12:08 pm
If tn does not have to pay he will go with riza and review xmas
Thu Oct 17, 2024 2:50 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Under these Three Clowns running Our Club yes.
So you think he should be given the job? Or did you misread the question? I think the latter.
Annis is saying yes if riza wins the two games tan will give him job. ... as per OP
question
My fault for actually reading what was written in the post where the question asked by Worcester in the body of the post is " But if Riza wins then both, would
you give him the job?" because I don't see Tan mentioned anywhere.
But if that isn't the question & it is if Tan would give him the job then I would Agree with Annis that he would.
In future I will just read the headline but no doubt that will be wrong as well.
Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:03 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Under these Three Clowns running Our Club yes.
So you think he should be given the job? Or did you misread the question? I think the latter.
Annis is saying yes if riza wins the two games tan will give him job. ... as per OP
question
My fault for actually reading what was written in the post where the question asked by Worcester in the body of the post is " But if Riza wins then both, would
you give him the job?" because I don't see Tan mentioned anywhere.
But if that isn't the question & it is if Tan would give him the job then I would Agree with Annis that he would.
In future I will just read the headline but no doubt that will be wrong as well.
As i said previously mentioned tan as he's the regime! Could be right about it being wrong as well?
simply put Annis is saying yes they'll give him job if win two games..
Thu Oct 17, 2024 3:16 pm
I’m torn on this one. We should ordinarily be looking to pick up six points from these two home games. As we know, this season has been anything but ordinary.
A part of me thinks he deserves a chance if he wins both.
The more common sense side of me says we’ve been down this road MANY times before. We need a strong, experienced manager.
Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:52 pm
If we get two wins in the next two games we would then have Riza presiding over x3wins, x1draw and x1defeat. Under Bulut it was x5defeats and x1draw. To me that would be positive progress and worthy of a short contract so as to be clear that it's not a fluke.
What's obviously very important to most supporters is also the manner of those wins, will the football be more pleasing on the eye? or will the same boring tactics be on show?
I'm not sure whether people were more pissed off with the results or the manner of the defeats (shite football).
To be fair to the man two more wins is a vast improvement and will lift us up the table a good few places and he would've surpassed expectations so on that alone I would give him the job on an initial short term basis.
Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:05 pm
How do people feel now about this?
My position is the same.
Keep him as a coach but not the manager.
That said, if we beat Pompey then I think Tan will appoint him.
Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:25 pm
Catch 22 not sure he's the man but the difference is stark compared to bulut.! Really should read 3 out 3 win and that's the catch 22? Do we upset what riza as achieved by replacing him with a coach who probably needs games to get across his style and still get best out of the squad... or keep riza ... today's game he's shown learned from Bristol..... he kept momentum when game was won and the press was very impressive all way through. ... can anyone see any faults in his tactics? Only one complaint is anwick he needs to distribute ball quicker when opportunity arises several times he got us in trouble by waiting 20mins to play out when 10 seconds was sufficient... other than that a perfect display.
Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:28 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Catch 22 not sure he's the man but the difference is stark compared to bulut.! Really should read 3 out 3 win and that's the catch 22? Do we upset what riza as achieved by replacing him with a coach who probably needs games to get across his style and still get best out of the squad... or keep riza ... today's game he's shown learned from Bristol..... he kept momentum when game was won and the press was very impressive all way through. ... can anyone see any faults in his tactics? Only one complaint is anwick he needs to distribute ball quicker when opportunity arises several times he got us in trouble by waiting 20mins to play out when 10 seconds was sufficient... other than that a perfect display.
Yeah after 20 mins I fell asleep waiting for him to distribute the ball
Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:29 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Catch 22 not sure he's the man but the difference is stark compared to bulut.! Really should read 3 out 3 win and that's the catch 22? Do we upset what riza as achieved by replacing him with a coach who probably needs games to get across his style and still get best out of the squad... or keep riza ... today's game he's shown learned from Bristol..... he kept momentum when game was won and the press was very impressive all way through. ... can anyone see any faults in his tactics? Only one complaint is anwick he needs to distribute ball quicker when opportunity arises several times he got us in trouble by waiting 20mins to play out when 10 seconds was sufficient... other than that a perfect display.
I do agree about Alnwick.
Sat Oct 19, 2024 4:32 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Catch 22 not sure he's the man but the difference is stark compared to bulut.! Really should read 3 out 3 win and that's the catch 22? Do we upset what riza as achieved by replacing him with a coach who probably needs games to get across his style and still get best out of the squad... or keep riza ... today's game he's shown learned from Bristol..... he kept momentum when game was won and the press was very impressive all way through. ... can anyone see any faults in his tactics? Only one complaint is anwick he needs to distribute ball quicker when opportunity arises several times he got us in trouble by waiting 20mins to play out when 10 seconds was sufficient... other than that a perfect display.
Yeah after 20 mins I fell asleep waiting for him to distribute the ball
That was tongue in cheek .....but lost count how many times he got ball defender was free but he simply played around inviting plymouth onto him and defenders.....got away with it couple times a better team will punish him
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