“ Joel Colwill “

Joel Colwill scores 2 goals for Cheltenham v Rotherham in FACUP TODAY

Surely has to be recalled in January, would give us another option.

Shouldn't be playing at League Two level, I bet Cheltenham couldn't believe their luck when they got him.

Get him back here. He should be in our match squad.

Absolutely get him back January PLEASE,
We need him

Leave him there for a full season for me. He's exactly where he needs to be for his development and making big differences in games.

1 full season of playing and scoring will return him a stronger player.

Leave him there for a full season for me. He's exactly where he needs to be for his development and making big differences in games.

1 full season of playing and scoring will return him a stronger player.

I'd leave him there too. A full season will do him the world of good.

He can come back in to the fray next season and take Ramseys place

Leave him there for a full season for me. He's exactly where he needs to be for his development and making big differences in games.

1 full season of playing and scoring will return him a stronger player.

Agree stay on loan and review in summer if ready for championship or a loan to league 1. He is not getting in the team if he comes back here just odd sub game so best stay in loan

We are short of players, he’s quality, way way to good for League 2, get Joel in our match day squad.

We are short of players, he’s quality, way way to good for League 2, get Joel in our match day squad.

How long was the loan for ? 6 or 12 months?

Leave him where he is, playing week in week out will benefit him much more than sitting on the bench for us. He's better than league 2 no doubt but our midfield picks itself at the moment, with both siopis and ralls as experienced cover. Let the boy play not stifle his development.

What a crazy idea, the lad needs to play week in week out. If he is a class above then let him show it.

He is cup-tied now, so his only opportunity was the third round of the FA cup, but he would be 5th or 6th choice CM behind Robertson, Ralls, Siopis, Turnbull, Rinomhota or 5th choice AM behind his brother, Ramsey, Ashford, & Willock

I guess the club are thinking he is Ralls replacement next season, so he needs a 40-game season in his legs

What a crazy idea, the lad needs to play week in week out. If he is a class above then let him show it.

He is cup-tied now, so his only opportunity was the third round of the FA cup, but he would be 5th or 6th choice CM behind Robertson, Ralls, Siopis, Turnbull, Rinomhota or 5th choice AM behind his brother, Ramsey, Ashford, & Willock

I guess the club are thinking he is Ralls replacement next season, so he needs a 40-game season in his legs

How is it crazy???

Explain


If you play long enough with very low standard players you become worse not better.

Name me “ 5 players “ who Cardiff City have sent out on loan to League 2 / Non League and Welsh League and come back and made it in the Championship for us in the last 15 years???
Please name them as you say it’s a crazy idea to bring him back in January.

Joel is class and is not a kid and the standard he is with now is not good.


Joel Colwill is not a kid, he’s 20 yrs old.

Norwich had two 18 yr odds v us yesterday


This was Bulut and Purses idea.


Because you’ve said it’s Crazy,

COME ON NAME 5 PLAYERS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS / COME ON



If Joel was at Brum, Huddersfield, Bolton , Wrexham etc I would agree with you like Alex Robertson went to a promotion chasing club.





JUST NAME ONLY 5 PLAYERS WHO HAVE MADE IT ???

Just 5 in the last 15 yrs

We are short of players, he’s quality, way way to good for League 2, get Joel in our match day squad.

I agree.

Somebody said in this strand he will replace Ramsey, but that’s not his position from what I have seen. I think Joel playing alongside Robertson in that holding midfield spot is really exciting.

So really he’ll be a much needed replacement/backup for Siopis and Ralls.

He does need to prove himself at this level but that’s a lot easier in a team that tries to play on the front foot and now has a manager who wants to go out and win matches rather than just trying not to lose them !!

We are short of players, he’s quality, way way to good for League 2, get Joel in our match day squad.

I agree.

Somebody said in this strand he will replace Ramsey, but that’s not his position from what I have seen. I think Joel playing alongside Robertson in that holding midfield spot is really exciting.

So really he’ll be a much needed replacement/backup for Siopis and Ralls.

He does need to prove himself at this level but that’s a lot easier in a team that tries to play on the front foot and now has a manager who wants to go out and win matches rather than just trying not to lose them !!

How about going out to a League 1 club in January?

Or he joins the first team match squad

Its not about who we have sent out and if they came back better, its whether they can replace current starters.

So at see its Joel is playing a more advanced position, so if he comes back at Christmas and Rambo returns to some sort of fitness he has to fight with his brother, Ramsey, Ashford and Willock for that attacking midfielder role. Or do you have that much faith in him he will replace all of them?

As i see it the club has to make big calls in the summer in regards to Ralls and Ramsey. Joel is obviously either one of their replacements.

If he returns early he will barely get any minutes. I think its better for players development to play a full season of mens football than a few minutes first team and U21

Colwill returns as a 21 year old with a full season in his legs.

Fully agree about getting him a L1 club as I guess there would be quite a queue if we offered him up after seeing him in L2

Its not about who we have sent out and if they came back better, its whether they can replace current starters.

So at see its Joel is playing a more advanced position, so if he comes back at Christmas and Rambo returns to some sort of fitness he has to fight with his brother, Ramsey, Ashford and Willock for that attacking midfielder role. Or do you have that much faith in him he will replace all of them?

As i see it the club has to make big calls in the summer in regards to Ralls and Ramsey. Joel is obviously either one of their replacements.

If he returns early he will barely get any minutes. I think its better for players development to play a full season of mens football than a few minutes first team and U21

Colwill returns as a 21 year old with a full season in his legs.

Yes it is, As everyone has failed the facts are their and we have wasted our time.

So please Name 5 players who have succeeded if it’s good to send our talent to these type of clubs

You says it’s Crazy to bring him back in January, so name 5 players who have succeeded in 15 years?


So If your right and my idea is CRAZY, show me where your idea has succeeded in the last 15 yrs?



League 1 yes as it’s way higher than the lower league of 2

Surely has to be recalled in January, would give us another option.

Shouldn't be playing at League Two level, I bet Cheltenham couldn't believe their luck when they got him.

Ned,


Joel is quality all the coaches believe he’s good enough to be in our team.

Bulut and Purse came up With one of their pathetic ideas send him to lower league.

He’s should go to Top League 1 or rejoin us in January he’s 20 yrs old and real quality

What a crazy idea, the lad needs to play week in week out. If he is a class above then let him show it.

He is cup-tied now, so his only opportunity was the third round of the FA cup, but he would be 5th or 6th choice CM behind Robertson, Ralls, Siopis, Turnbull, Rinomhota or 5th choice AM behind his brother, Ramsey, Ashford, & Willock

I guess the club are thinking he is Ralls replacement next season, so he needs a 40-game season in his legs

How is it crazy???

Explain


If you play long enough with very low standard players you become worse not better.

Name me “ 5 players “ who Cardiff City have sent out on loan to League 2 / Non League and Welsh League and come back and made it in the Championship for us in the last 15 years???
Please name them as you say it’s a crazy idea to bring him back in January.

Joel is class and is not a kid and the standard he is with now is not good.


Joel Colwill is not a kid, he’s 20 yrs old.

Norwich had two 18 yr odds v us yesterday


This was Bulut and Purses idea.


Because you’ve said it’s Crazy,

COME ON NAME 5 PLAYERS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS / COME ON



If Joel was at Brum, Huddersfield, Bolton , Wrexham etc I would agree with you like Alex Robertson went to a promotion chasing club.





JUST NAME ONLY 5 PLAYERS WHO HAVE MADE IT ???

Just 5 in the last 15 yrs

We are Cardiff City, our track reciord with players as you say is abysmal so we have no credibility in the loan out department.

If you are a L1 club, who would you loan from Man city, Liverpool, Arsenal or Cardiff city? We have no history, you have to go back to Malkys era for Ralls to Yeovil for success for both parties.

If we let it be known that he can go to an L1 club, let's see whats happens, he should be snapped up if reports from Cheltenham continue.

Leave him there for a full season for me. He's exactly where he needs to be for his development and making big differences in games.

1 full season of playing and scoring will return him a stronger player.

Thats a good point. I would assess our injury situation come January and decide then

What a crazy idea, the lad needs to play week in week out. If he is a class above then let him show it.

He is cup-tied now, so his only opportunity was the third round of the FA cup, but he would be 5th or 6th choice CM behind Robertson, Ralls, Siopis, Turnbull, Rinomhota or 5th choice AM behind his brother, Ramsey, Ashford, & Willock

I guess the club are thinking he is Ralls replacement next season, so he needs a 40-game season in his legs

How is it crazy???

Explain


If you play long enough with very low standard players you become worse not better.

Name me “ 5 players “ who Cardiff City have sent out on loan to League 2 / Non League and Welsh League and come back and made it in the Championship for us in the last 15 years???
Please name them as you say it’s a crazy idea to bring him back in January.

Joel is class and is not a kid and the standard he is with now is not good.


Joel Colwill is not a kid, he’s 20 yrs old.

Norwich had two 18 yr odds v us yesterday


This was Bulut and Purses idea.


Because you’ve said it’s Crazy,

COME ON NAME 5 PLAYERS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS / COME ON



If Joel was at Brum, Huddersfield, Bolton , Wrexham etc I would agree with you like Alex Robertson went to a promotion chasing club.





JUST NAME ONLY 5 PLAYERS WHO HAVE MADE IT ???

Just 5 in the last 15 yrs

We are Cardiff City, our track reciord with players as you say is abysmal so we have no credibility in the loan out department.

If you are a L1 club, who would you loan from Man city, Liverpool, Arsenal or Cardiff city? We have no history, you have to go back to Malkys era for Ralls to Yeovil for success for both parties.

If we let it be known that he can go to an L1 club, let's see whats happens, he should be snapped up if reports from Cheltenham continue.

Fair enough, We should offer Joel to League 1 clubs a much higher standard.

Personally and other coaches believe he’s ready now.

As to how many have succeeded in the last 15 years by us sending them out to very lower leagues, Non League , Welsh League is “ ZERO”

That’s why I worry about Joel.

Leave him where he is, playing week in week out will benefit him much more than sitting on the bench for us. He's better than league 2 no doubt but our midfield picks itself at the moment, with both siopis and ralls as experienced cover. Let the boy play not stifle his development.

League 2 for Joel??

So you think he will come back a better player?

Who else has ever ?

What a crazy idea, the lad needs to play week in week out. If he is a class above then let him show it.

He is cup-tied now, so his only opportunity was the third round of the FA cup, but he would be 5th or 6th choice CM behind Robertson, Ralls, Siopis, Turnbull, Rinomhota or 5th choice AM behind his brother, Ramsey, Ashford, & Willock

I guess the club are thinking he is Ralls replacement next season, so he needs a 40-game season in his legs

How is it crazy???

Explain


If you play long enough with very low standard players you become worse not better.

Name me “ 5 players “ who Cardiff City have sent out on loan to League 2 / Non League and Welsh League and come back and made it in the Championship for us in the last 15 years???
Please name them as you say it’s a crazy idea to bring him back in January.

Joel is class and is not a kid and the standard he is with now is not good.


Joel Colwill is not a kid, he’s 20 yrs old.

Norwich had two 18 yr odds v us yesterday


This was Bulut and Purses idea.


Because you’ve said it’s Crazy,

COME ON NAME 5 PLAYERS IN THE LAST 15 YEARS / COME ON



If Joel was at Brum, Huddersfield, Bolton , Wrexham etc I would agree with you like Alex Robertson went to a promotion chasing club.





JUST NAME ONLY 5 PLAYERS WHO HAVE MADE IT ???

Just 5 in the last 15 yrs

We are Cardiff City, our track reciord with players as you say is abysmal so we have no credibility in the loan out department.

If you are a L1 club, who would you loan from Man city, Liverpool, Arsenal or Cardiff city? We have no history, you have to go back to Malkys era for Ralls to Yeovil for success for both parties.

If we let it be known that he can go to an L1 club, let's see whats happens, he should be snapped up if reports from Cheltenham continue.

Fair enough, We should offer Joel to League 1 clubs a much higher standard.

Personally and other coaches believe he’s ready now.

As to how many have succeeded in the last 15 years by us sending them out to very lower leagues, Non League , Welsh League is “ ZERO”

That’s why I worry about Joel.

I am not doubting the kid but we are paying big money for Ramsey, Ralls, Siopis, probably Robertson and Turnbull and his brother and Willock must be on a fair whack. Its hard to drop those players for a youngster for any coach/manager, plus its working now why rock it? Wintle is still our as well with the option to recall.

Barring offers next season Robertson, Turnbull, Joel plus King returns, it looks a young athletic CM core. With JC and King doing so well, i think clubs may enquire about Cardiff academy products rather than us look to place them.

Leave him where he is, playing week in week out will benefit him much more than sitting on the bench for us. He's better than league 2 no doubt but our midfield picks itself at the moment, with both siopis and ralls as experienced cover. Let the boy play not stifle his development.

League 2 for Joel??

So you think he will come back a better player?

Who else has ever ?

I do genuinely believe we almost ruined Rubin and Davies by throwing them into the first team when they were not ready because we just needed a miracle rather than getting championship first team players.

Rubin still looks gassed after 20 mins because we didn't build his stamina at 19/20 by playing 40 first team games at L2. He is 22 and barely played many 90 min games. Thats wrong (IMO)

I really don’t know what to think about this situation Annie is 100% correct we would find it hard to name 5 players who have gone down to the lower leagues who have come back better players. My thoughts are that Joel will come back better because he is a very good player and the others we sent out where over hyped and were never going to make it at championship level.
Many players have been loaned out to lower division teams to come back and become major stars in their teams but none of them were our players
So it can work I just don’t think we have had the players that were really that good in the first place

Surely has to be recalled in January, would give us another option.

Shouldn't be playing at League Two level, I bet Cheltenham couldn't believe their luck when they got him.

Ned,


Joel is quality all the coaches believe he’s good enough to be in our team.

Bulut and Purse came up With one of their pathetic ideas send him to lower league.

He’s should go to Top League 1 or rejoin us in January he’s 20 yrs old and real quality

Don't suppose there will be no shortage of decent L1 clubs looking to take him in Jan should the club want him to get experience at that level.

We are short of players, he’s quality, way way to good for League 2, get Joel in our match day squad.

Agreed Annis, playing with better players on his wavelength will speed up his development, it can be difficult playing with lower level players and stunt your development, for players like him it's speed of thought that make him special, as well as having all the rest.

So here's my question; if Joel's current ability is as highly regarded as a few on here are claiming, why were no League 1 clubs in for him? Surely a lot of clubs would be clambering for a player of his calibar for a season? It's not like they've not had opportunities to see him play for both our and the nation teams youth system.

This isn't a dig it's a genuine question, because I can't get my head around this?

So here's my question; if Joel's current ability is as highly regarded as a few on here are claiming, why were no League 1 clubs in for him? Surely a lot of clubs would be clambering for a player of his calibar for a season? It's not like they've not had opportunities to see him play for both our and the nation teams youth system.

This isn't a dig it's a genuine question, because I can't get my head around this?

The point is the lad was an unknown outside of Cardiff circles but has subsequently shown himself to be a useful player and many clubs will have taken note of his situation. Just shows how little attention is paid to the U21 teams.

Is his loan only a 6 month loan or a season loan?

Is his loan only a 6 month loan or a season loan?

I understand it’s for the season but with a ‘recall’ clause in January…

Personally, I wouldn’t have sent him out in the first place; but worth noting one who did (Bulut) is no longer with us but the other (Purse) is…