Protest risk

Doesn't anyone think that pissing tan off in January could seal our fate and relegation.
We all know we are going to need players, and tan can be stubborn. This could cause him to dig his heels in and refuse to strengthen the squad. Put a stop to any plans for new players that may be there. It could make it all worse for us for the rest of the season. Or Is that all irrelevant..All prepared to take that chance.
If so How is that what's best for our club?
That's not saying I agree with how things are ATM, just that I can see it getting alot worse after this protest. Everyone will blame tan. But I know if I was on charge and same happened to me. Id turn my back to prove a point.

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in my opinion we have hired the most inexperienced manager we could possibly find.
on that basis i believe we wont survive anyway. we have nothing to lose our club is slowly being strangled.
we want our club back

This could cause him to dig his heels in and refuse to strengthen the squad.

He's been doing that for 5 years. Not sure what we've got to lose really.

Protest or no protest he isn't going to invest in the squad.
TAN OUT!!

One of the key reasons that Tan has specifically hired Riza as there will be little or no available budget in January. Riza has already said that he's in the dark about this and this is one of the many reasons for the protest to actually take place, as the lack of meaningful investment has resulted in our near relegation for a few seasons and is the reason we are yet again in a relegation dogfight and with no sign of things changing.

Excellent article on this has just been posted by Daniel Storey on iNews too who was at the Preston game, he has over 90k followers on X too, so it's not just city fans now showing concern about VT, it's independent journalists too.

There are people prepared to pay £150m now for the club.

If we get relegated, and the clubs value drops to £30-50m, then those potential buyers will still have £100m to spend on players after buying the club.

Its actually beneficial to us if we do get relegated

A dictator rules by fear. We’re too big a club to go out of existence, someone would come in for us.

We need to snap out of this Stockholm Syndrome mentality.

Jesus, a few posts like this now.

Some obviously think that we shouldn't offend the great Vincent Tan, which is ridiculous.

Thankfully there's a large number who think the exact opposite.

We will get the "don't piss him off he won't spend millions" posters now

I'm sure Dalman will be out soon with his speech we get from him every now and then "significant money being spent" talk to try squash all the protest talk which won't because people have heared that for years on end now.

The bottom line is the clubs rotten from the top and that rolls down hill so I'm glad. Irrelevant of results which is why I'm sure some only want to protest because if we was up near the top some wouldn't be even be mentioning protests sadly that's how some modern fans work. For me and many others we need him and the other parasites within gone and that's that

The plain reality is it's not our club, we support it, and maybe the lifeblood, but Vincent Tan owns is over 90% of it.

He has bought it with his money and lent us the money from his wealth. If we get relegated he loses fare more than us. I have seen us in L2,L1, premier league, and of course, the championship, so relegation holds no fear to me.

If he doesn't back the club then the chances of him losing more money increases. If we go down or make scrape 21st and we only get 10K season tickets next season he loses that income but also makes the club less attractive and he loses more money.

At the moment whatever division we are in I can't see myself buying a season ticket next season, it's not a protest, just had enough of the club not even pretending to try.

I used to think better the devil you know but now it's clear he doesn't want to invest in us by continuing with Riza (nothing against him) but he lacks experience he was given the job on a dismal run of form (like Hudson and that turned out as expected) he's not learning from his mistakes. He's trying to do everything on the cheap and not spend anything and hope we somehow get lucky and get promoted with no plan and no investment. Tan needs to go along with Choo and dalman

How definite do we have potential buyers? Do you think think Tan is holding out for the Sala issue to resolve?

How definite do we have potential buyers? Do you think think Tan is holding out for the Sala issue to resolve?

He might be (the sala case will take years though, so i hope not)but there's no way he's getting the money he wants for us. Even if we were doing well he wouldn't get anywhere near 200m . It's easier for me to say as not my money but if I was owner of a team i had no real interest in and the fans hated me I'd cut my losses and sell. (He's supposedly pumping 1m each month so he's losing money monthly with us)

Doesn't anyone think that pissing tan off in January could seal our fate and relegation.
We all know we are going to need players, and tan can be stubborn. This could cause him to dig his heels in and refuse to strengthen the squad. Put a stop to any plans for new players that may be there. It could make it all worse for us for the rest of the season. Or Is that all irrelevant..All prepared to take that chance.
If so How is that what's best for our club?
That's not saying I agree with how things are ATM, just that I can see it getting alot worse after this protest. Everyone will blame tan. But I know if I was on charge and same happened to me. Id turn my back to prove a point.

Are you seriously saying, just to prove a point, you would let "your" club drop to L1 and the subsequent loss of 10's of millions of pounds in devaluation? I guess you've never owned a business!

We will get the "don't piss him off he won't spend millions" posters now

I'm sure Dalman will be out soon with his speech we get from him every now and then "significant money being spent" talk to try squash all the protest talk which won't because people have heared that for years on end now.

The bottom line is the clubs rotten from the top and that rolls down hill so I'm glad. Irrelevant of results which is why I'm sure some only want to protest because if we was up near the top some wouldn't be even be mentioning protests sadly that's how some modern fans work. For me and many others we need him and the other parasites within gone and that's that

We already had posters saying should we be careful not to pee off Mr tan .

Relegation will cost Tan financially

He will take a huge hit..the club will be worth tens of millions less and the TV income next year will drop by £6 million

It will be a massive disappointment to us fans that obvious but an even greater disaster for Tan and probably Dalman

If Tans feelings or ego is hurt by any sort of protest I won’t be losing any sleep over it

We will get the "don't piss him off he won't spend millions" posters now

I'm sure Dalman will be out soon with his speech we get from him every now and then "significant money being spent" talk to try squash all the protest talk which won't because people have heared that for years on end now.

The bottom line is the clubs rotten from the top and that rolls down hill so I'm glad. Irrelevant of results which is why I'm sure some only want to protest because if we was up near the top some wouldn't be even be mentioning protests sadly that's how some modern fans work. For me and many others we need him and the other parasites within gone and that's that

Bang on

There are people prepared to pay £150m now for the club.

If we get relegated, and the clubs value drops to £30-50m, then those potential buyers will still have £100m to spend on players after buying the club.

Its actually beneficial to us if we do get relegated

ONLY if Tan sells up, Paul…!

Doesn't anyone think that pissing tan off in January could seal our fate and relegation.
We all know we are going to need players, and tan can be stubborn. This could cause him to dig his heels in and refuse to strengthen the squad. Put a stop to any plans for new players that may be there. It could make it all worse for us for the rest of the season. Or Is that all irrelevant..All prepared to take that chance.
If so How is that what's best for our club?
That's not saying I agree with how things are ATM, just that I can see it getting alot worse after this protest. Everyone will blame tan. But I know if I was on charge and same happened to me. Id turn my back to prove a point.

Are you seriously saying, just to prove a point, you would let "your" club drop to L1 and the subsequent loss of 10's of millions of pounds in devaluation? I guess you've never owned a business!

I agree, Jim…!

After so many years of broken promises and political BS, it appears the club’s hierarchy have little or no respect for the supporters and (worse IMHO) take us for fools…

There are some pretty smart people and long-suffering members on this Forum and it’s telling when the mood swings so massively in such a short period…

Supporters (with some exceptions) have simply had enough and something has to give. We have little to lose by speaking up…

A term I once read (from Aristotle, if I recall correctly, is very valid right now…

“Doing something costs something. Doing nothing costs something. And, quite often, doing nothing costs a lot more!”

Unfortunately it's thoughts and fears like those OP that has propped up the Tan regime.

He rules by fear. He controls by having money (or the promise of it, whether wages or debt conversion).
He is consistently inconsistent. Thinks short term.
He has no value or respect to clubs.
He has overseen mismanagement that is dangerous debt level.

We will possibly
end up being a Rangers.

The man is a ruthless assassin and a thorn dressed as a rose....

No pain, no gain. Get him gone.

Protest or no protest he isn't going to invest in the squad.
TAN OUT!!

Spot on

And sells before he then brings in cheap shite

BREAKING VINCENT TAN SACKS ANOTHER MANAGER / THE DICTATOR HAS NO CLUE ABOUT FOOTBALL:
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There are people prepared to pay £150m now for the club.

If we get relegated, and the clubs value drops to £30-50m, then those potential buyers will still have £100m to spend on players after buying the club.

Its actually beneficial to us if we do get relegated

ONLY if Tan sells up, Paul…!

Haha yes, you are right Chris.

VT is stubborn. I think we all now that. But we now have the supporters of both us and Kortrijk asking him to leave football. There will be rallies and demonstrations which, from what I understand, will be picked up in Malaysia. This will be embarrassing to him but even more so when his own family want him to get rid of the football clubs.

I do not want us to get relegated, of course, but if we do its no more than we deserve especially in light of previous seasons it was only other clubs points deductions which saved us. And if we do get relegated the club would be worth in the region of £30-50m. This would be a huge loss to VT so I do wonder whether he might just bail out and accept £120-150m whilst he still has the chance??

I think now would be the perfect time for someone to come in with an offer and I for one would love to see a certain Sam Hammam at the front of the demonstration at the Swansea game!!!

Don't forget than Tan and the Boards idea of strengthening was signing Kanga

I agree entirely.There are worse owners than Tan.The risk of dropping to div 1 (3) is too great a riskAsk clubs with more loyal supporters than our own or Leeds even just how frustrating it is to be stuck down there for years.Any fantasy that it'll be like the good old years stomping about new ground s before promotion should be banished. Moreover why humiliate the whole club before Swansea.? Warnock showed the value of a united clubBe careful what you wish for. Ps don't blame the players .they work their hardest and seem to thrive away from home where they are backed whole heartedly ,a long way from some of the moaning ,entitled demanding individuals that create such toxicity that we must now be any teams dream away fixture. Not won for ten on the trot, not won away all seasonDon't worry Cardiff soon.Theyll turn on their own.

I agree entirely.There are worse owners than Tan.The risk of dropping to div 1 (3) is too great a riskAsk clubs with more loyal supporters than our own or Leeds even just how frustrating it is to be stuck down there for years.Any fantasy that it'll be like the good old years stomping about new ground s before promotion should be banished. Moreover why humiliate the whole club before Swansea.? Warnock showed the value of a united clubBe careful what you wish for. Ps don't blame the players .they work their hardest and seem to thrive away from home where they are backed whole heartedly ,a long way from some of the moaning ,entitled demanding individuals that create such toxicity that we must now be any teams dream away fixture. Not won for ten on the trot, not won away all seasonDon't worry Cardiff soon.Theyll turn on their own.

Hi Vincent

What a dreary response!

I agree entirely.There are worse owners than Tan.The risk of dropping to div 1 (3) is too great a riskAsk clubs with more loyal supporters than our own or Leeds even just how frustrating it is to be stuck down there for years.Any fantasy that it'll be like the good old years stomping about new ground s before promotion should be banished. Moreover why humiliate the whole club before Swansea.? Warnock showed the value of a united clubBe careful what you wish for. Ps don't blame the players .they work their hardest and seem to thrive away from home where they are backed whole heartedly ,a long way from some of the moaning ,entitled demanding individuals that create such toxicity that we must now be any teams dream away fixture. Not won for ten on the trot, not won away all seasonDon't worry Cardiff soon.Theyll turn on their own.

How will any protest humiliate the club? The protest is against our non existent, egotistical, megalomaniac owner. The protest shows the love people have for our club and will not watch it wither away and die because of some w*nker!
People grateful that he puts money in every month and why? He bought the club he knew what that entailed? And majority of debt has been brought to this club by the mismanagement of it

What a day to further divide the club !This isn't the blue to red debate. This is finance if Tan has a guts full the club has little to offer other than potential and being a capital city.i think its best he goes but very worried about the timings of thhi protest.

The timing of the protest is perfect as it will be the biggest crowd of the season and in front of sky cameras, the scoreline against the 6 fingered vermin is secondary to us getting our club back

I disagree, the scoreline isn't second at all.
I don't want a relegation battle or them rat eaters down the road laughing at us again.
I don't agree with timing either, not saying not to do it. It's up to who ever wants but it isn't the same as the last one at all. And those who think it is need a reality check