THE MARCH. SAT 6th MARCH BORO HOME.

For clarity the full details of the march are as below:

"Who will we watch"

The March is to demonstrate Cardiff City Fans continuing frustration at what we feel is the poor running of the club as a business and Financial mismanagement that is/will be affecting future income streams.It is bourbne out of genuine concerns that the club may fall into administration if no investment/funding is found.

Date : Saturday 6th March Middlesborough at Home.

Location: Starting at the empty car park behind the Admiral Napier pub in Canton, the march will set off at 14:00 to the stadium main entrance via Leckwith Road.

Times: meet at 13:30 set off 14:00.

Please bring banners, fog horns, your voices and make this a loud vocal demostration to show the board our concerns.

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Paul, I will be there and Will March with a Bannner. See you 1.30pm
WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE NOT STUPID AND WE STILL HAVE PASSION/CARE FOR OUR CLUB and THAT OUR CLUB IS BEING SLOWLY KILLED BY THE PRESENT BOARD.

So is it no longer a 'Ridsdale Out' march, as previously advertised?

If that is the case, then what are the actual aims of the march?

TLG its a protest against the way the club is being run

the aim of the miners marches, the teachers marching against lowpay , the fireman was to publisise their plight

and this is the same

along with other routes such as the trust

as you have said there are many ways to skin a cat

Frankly, I think any comparisons with the protests by the miners, the teachers and the firemen are both ridiculous and disrespectful to those bodies of workers.

My questions are these:

1) What is the actual aim of this march?

2) What are the organisers hoping the protest will achieve in real terms?

So far, nobody seems prepared to answer those questions. Therefore, many fans are going to find it difficult to either join or support the march. Until today, the clearly stated aim of the protest, and those that have gone before it, has been to get current Chairman Peter Ridsdale out of the club. Now, it seems the aspiration has altered, although as far as I can see the organisers have yet to state what the new aim is. So what are they hoping to actually achieve?

It's a simple question and I'm sure it's one that will need answering for this protest to be well supported.

Frankly, I think any comparisons with the protests by the miners, the teachers and the firemen are both ridiculous and disrespectful to those bodies of workers.

My questions are these:

1) What is the actual aim of this march?

2) What are the organisers hoping the protest will achieve in real terms?

So far, nobody seems prepared to answer those questions. Therefore, many fans are going to find it difficult to either join or support the march. Until today, the clearly stated aim of the protest, and those that have gone before it, has been to get current Chairman Peter Ridsdale out of the club. Now, it seems the aspiration has altered, although as far as I can see the organisers have yet to state what the new aim is. So what are they hoping to actually achieve?

It's a simple question and I'm sure it's one that will need answering for this protest to be well supported.

TLG, are you on PR's Side ?

The Protest is against HOW BAD OUR CLUB IS RUN FINANCIALLY and WE WANT TO KNOW WHERE ALL THE MONEY IS GOING ?
Also WE ARE FED UP OF HEARING ABOUT DEBT AFTER BEBT AND WINDING UP ORDERS THATS WHAT THE PROTEST IS ABOUT.

Paul, I will be there and Will March with a Bannner. See you 1.30pm
WE HAVE TO SHOW THAT WE ARE NOT STUPID AND WE STILL HAVE PASSION/CARE FOR OUR CLUB and THAT OUR CLUB IS BEING SLOWLY KILLED BY THE PRESENT BOARD.

my banners will read .LOVE THE CITY -HATE THE RIDDLER

TLG You do your protests in Writing, We do it by MARCHING, AS WE ARE FED UP OF THE CURRENT REGIME IN HOW THEY RUN OUR CLUB FINANCIALLY . High Courts, We want to show them we are becoming a laughing stock in THE FOOTBALL WORLD, DUE TO THEM.

TLG, I COULD GO ON AND ON.
Corky is Backing us.

Frankly, I think any comparisons with the protests by the miners, the teachers and the firemen are both ridiculous and disrespectful to those bodies of workers.

My questions are these:

1) What is the actual aim of this march?

2) What are the organisers hoping the protest will achieve in real terms?

So far, nobody seems prepared to answer those questions. Therefore, many fans are going to find it difficult to either join or support the march. Until today, the clearly stated aim of the protest, and those that have gone before it, has been to get current Chairman Peter Ridsdale out of the club. Now, it seems the aspiration has altered, although as far as I can see the organisers have yet to state what the new aim is. So what are they hoping to actually achieve?

It's a simple question and I'm sure it's one that will need answering for this protest to be well supported.

mr.you have had lots of answers to your repeative questions.for heavens sake stop bleating join us and show your true colours.

Frankly, I think any comparisons with the protests by the miners, the teachers and the firemen are both ridiculous and disrespectful to those bodies of workers.

My questions are these:

1) What is the actual aim of this march?

2) What are the organisers hoping the protest will achieve in real terms?

So far, nobody seems prepared to answer those questions. Therefore, many fans are going to find it difficult to either join or support the march. Until today, the clearly stated aim of the protest, and those that have gone before it, has been to get current Chairman Peter Ridsdale out of the club. Now, it seems the aspiration has altered, although as far as I can see the organisers have yet to state what the new aim is. So what are they hoping to actually achieve?

It's a simple question and I'm sure it's one that will need answering for this protest to be well supported.

I beg to differ

this is our football club and a lot of people are very worried about its future

I dont know what you intend doing on saturday if we go down the shitter but many people see the plight of this football club as every bit as importantt as the fight for jobs or communities

you seem to solely focused on the trust route, which I support , and antagonistic towards any sort of peaceful protest and its wearing a bit thin now


you know very well that there is a lot of anger directed at peter ridsdale , and we both know that there is a wider picture to be resolved

but continually griping about fans voicing their anger at the club and the way its being run is adding nothing

is the lone gunman a: PHILOSOPHER,professionally ?????

Frankly, I think any comparisons with the protests by the miners, the teachers and the firemen are both ridiculous and disrespectful to those bodies of workers.

My questions are these:

1) What is the actual aim of this march?

2) What are the organisers hoping the protest will achieve in real terms?

So far, nobody seems prepared to answer those questions. Therefore, many fans are going to find it difficult to either join or support the march. Until today, the clearly stated aim of the protest, and those that have gone before it, has been to get current Chairman Peter Ridsdale out of the club. Now, it seems the aspiration has altered, although as far as I can see the organisers have yet to state what the new aim is. So what are they hoping to actually achieve?

It's a simple question and I'm sure it's one that will need answering for this protest to be well supported.

TLG as stated at the start of the thread the aim is to now show the board that a number of city fans are not happy with the way the club is being run and have genuine concerns over the future of the club and future income streams if no investment should come along.

What will it achieve? who knows, hopefully it will put pressure on certain board members to rethink their positions and maybe act in the best interests of the club rather than their own pockets.

Frankly, I think any comparisons with the protests by the miners, the teachers and the firemen are both ridiculous and disrespectful to those bodies of workers.

My questions are these:

1) What is the actual aim of this march?

2) What are the organisers hoping the protest will achieve in real terms?

So far, nobody seems prepared to answer those questions. Therefore, many fans are going to find it difficult to either join or support the march. Until today, the clearly stated aim of the protest, and those that have gone before it, has been to get current Chairman Peter Ridsdale out of the club. Now, it seems the aspiration has altered, although as far as I can see the organisers have yet to state what the new aim is. So what are they hoping to actually achieve?

It's a simple question and I'm sure it's one that will need answering for this protest to be well supported.

As an apparantly intelligent poster TLG you do come across as being a bit pedantic in your stance reading your posts. There was a previous thread wherby posters stated their reasons for marching. Granted reasons are not the same as 'aims' but surely you can appreciate its fans marching who do not like being treated with contempt by the club and lied do. We are also realise that the march will not suddenly make Ridsdale resign but as Annis as stated we are showing our frustration at how the club is being run and the lies that have occurred and if nothing else everyone who marches will feel a damn sight better for it.

THE FINANCES OF OUR CLUB ARE A JOKE AND I AM MARCHING TO SHOW THEM, THEY CANT CONTINUE TO MAKE OUR CLUB A LAUGHING.

Dave,

my view is a simple one really. We were told so much and promised so much and at the end of the day some people have made a fortune out of a development whilst letting the football club struggle along with mounting debts that are left now for any investors to be put off by.

Many fans realise that new investment is needed and the current lot want out but we also realise that we have a right to protest about the way they have run our club and the way they have made it unattractive to potential investors by using up future income streams.

We asked many fans to join the trust so we get a mandate to fight politically and at meeting level and I am very grateful to them for supporting us....now the grassroot support want to march to show their feelings towards the people in charge who have got us in this mess...I think it is right and proper that we support them...

That is my opinion...others should decide what they want to do...many will do nothing and just hope for the best, bury heads in sand etc....where will that get us.

I expect and actually know many Trust members who will be marching...

you seem to solely focused on the trust route, which I support , and antagonistic towards any sort of peaceful protest and its wearing a bit thin now

Utter f*cking bollocks.

There is no 'Trust route' at present. The Trust's initial aim was to convene a General Meeting and ask questions of the board regarding the current financial situation. That goal has already been achieved. The Trust's board will meet on Monday evening to discuss where we go next in light of answers given to the questions at the General Meeting. That's it as far as the Trust is concerned. Therefore, I'd be obliged if you would refrain from mentioning the Trust in response to every f*cking post I submit.

Over the last week or so, I have been questioned about this march on a regular basis. I have been asked what is for and whether or not I support it on numerous occasions. I have been asked questions about it by friends, family, fans I barely know, Trust members and various members of the local media. As things stand, I don't know what to tell them because I don't know what this march is hoping to achieve.

That's because nobody will answer what is a very simple question.

Is this march intended to get Peter Ridsdale to resign? Is it intended to force the rest of the board/shareholders to ask him to step down or to sack him? Is it intended to get the whole board to resign? Is it intended to draw publicity to club's financial plight because the organisers feel there hasn't been enough publicity in the press so far? If so, what changes do the organisers hope will result from the extra publicity? Is the march intended simply to give fans a vehicle to vent their furstrations at the way the current board is running the club?

What are the exact aims and objectives of this event, or aren't there any? To be honest, I haven't got a f*cking clue, and I'm sure many other fans feel the same. In fact, I know they do because I keep getting asked questions about it.

I am not in the least bit antagonistic towards a peaceful protest. As I have said on countless occasions, I will defend anyone's right to protest if they feel that is what's necessary. But in order to defend or support an event such as this, I and many other supporters need to know what the organisers are attemtping to achieve.

This time yesterday, the march was a dubbed a 'Ridsdale Out' protest. Now, it seems things have changed. Insetad of taking continual pops at me as an individual, then why not attempt to properly explain the aims and objectives of this protest. If you know what you are marching for, then surely that won't be too difficult?

I have stated above like you asked me to TLG.

gunman as you are an elected member of the trust and are here asking , several times, what is the point and aim of the protest march , then I think its fair to suggest that you are , at the moment , in favour of a further meeting with the club

I support that , and as I have yet to get any other information on that matter then I can only assume that given you seem to be questioning the aims of this march that , for the time being , you favour that route


what other possible conclusion could one make ?

Dave,

my view is a simple one really. We were told so much and promised so much and at the end of the day some people have made a fortune out of a development whilst letting the football club struggle along with mounting debts that are left now for any investors to be put off by.

Many fans realise that new investment is needed and the current lot want out but we also realise that we have a right to protest about the way they have run our club and the way they have made it unattractive to potential investors by using up future income streams.

We asked many fans to join the trust so we get a mandate to fight politically and at meeting level and I am very grateful to them for supporting us....now the grassroot support want to march to show their feelings towards the people in charge who have got us in this mess...I think it is right and proper that we support them...

That is my opinion...others should decide what they want to do...many will do nothing and just hope for the best, bury heads in sand etc....where will that get us.

I expect and actually know many Trust members who will be marching...

in the same way that the trust cannot speak for all the fans , nor can this march

but I think together we can show we are unhappy with the way the club is being run

the trust showed the club they were unhappy with the club and wanted answers...we didnt get all of them but it was a start

the fans who go on this march are showing the club that we are unhappy with the way the club is being run ......it may get more publicity , it may move things forward ...like the egm its a start !!

you seem to solely focused on the trust route, which I support , and antagonistic towards any sort of peaceful protest and its wearing a bit thin now

Utter f*cking bollocks.

There is no 'Trust route' at present. The Trust's initial aim was to convene a General Meeting and ask questions of the board regarding the current financial situation. That goal has already been achieved. The Trust's board will meet on Monday evening to discuss where we go next in light of answers given to the questions at the General Meeting. That's it as far as the Trust is concerned. Therefore, I'd be obliged if you would refrain from mentioning the Trust in response to every f*cking post I submit.

Over the last week or so, I have been questioned about this march on a regular basis. I have been asked what is for and whether or not I support it on numerous occasions. I have been asked questions about it by friends, family, fans I barely know, Trust members and various members of the local media. As things stand, I don't know what to tell them because I don't know what this march is hoping to achieve.

That's because nobody will answer what is a very simple question.

Is this march intended to get Peter Ridsdale to resign? Is it intended to force the rest of the board/shareholders to ask him to step down or to sack him? Is it intended to get the whole board to resign? Is it intended to draw publicity to club's financial plight because the organisers feel there hasn't been enough publicity in the press so far? If so, what changes do the organisers hope will result from the extra publicity? Is the march intended simply to give fans a vehicle to vent their furstrations at the way the current board is running the club?

What are the exact aims and objectives of this event, or aren't there any? To be honest, I haven't got a f*cking clue, and I'm sure many other fans feel the same. In fact, I know they do because I keep getting asked questions about it.

I am not in the least bit antagonistic towards a peaceful protest. As I have said on countless occasions, I will defend anyone's right to protest if they feel that is what's necessary. But in order to defend or support an event such as this, I and many other supporters need to know what the organisers are attemtping to achieve.

This time yesterday, the march was a dubbed a 'Ridsdale Out' protest. Now, it seems things have changed. Insetad of taking continual pops at me as an individual, then why not attempt to properly explain the aims and objectives of this protest. If you know what you are marching for, then surely that won't be too difficult?

its been answered above by at least 3 people TLG.

you seem to solely focused on the trust route, which I support , and antagonistic towards any sort of peaceful protest and its wearing a bit thin now

Utter f*cking bollocks.

There is no 'Trust route' at present. The Trust's initial aim was to convene a General Meeting and ask questions of the board regarding the current financial situation. That goal has already been achieved. The Trust's board will meet on Monday evening to discuss where we go next in light of answers given to the questions at the General Meeting. That's it as far as the Trust is concerned. Therefore, I'd be obliged if you would refrain from mentioning the Trust in response to every f*cking post I submit.

Over the last week or so, I have been questioned about this march on a regular basis. I have been asked what is for and whether or not I support it on numerous occasions. I have been asked questions about it by friends, family, fans I barely know, Trust members and various members of the local media. As things stand, I don't know what to tell them because I don't know what this march is hoping to achieve.

That's because nobody will answer what is a very simple question.

Is this march intended to get Peter Ridsdale to resign? Is it intended to force the rest of the board/shareholders to ask him to step down or to sack him? Is it intended to get the whole board to resign? Is it intended to draw publicity to club's financial plight because the organisers feel there hasn't been enough publicity in the press so far? If so, what changes do the organisers hope will result from the extra publicity? Is the march intended simply to give fans a vehicle to vent their furstrations at the way the current board is running the club?

What are the exact aims and objectives of this event, or aren't there any? To be honest, I haven't got a f*cking clue, and I'm sure many other fans feel the same. In fact, I know they do because I keep getting asked questions about it.

I am not in the least bit antagonistic towards a peaceful protest. As I have said on countless occasions, I will defend anyone's right to protest if they feel that is what's necessary. But in order to defend or support an event such as this, I and many other supporters need to know what the organisers are attemtping to achieve.

This time yesterday, the march was a dubbed a 'Ridsdale Out' protest. Now, it seems things have changed. Insetad of taking continual pops at me as an individual, then why not attempt to properly explain the aims and objectives of this protest. If you know what you are marching for, then surely that won't be too difficult?

taking continual pops at you as an individual ?

I hope thats not directed at me you soppy sod

I have made two comments which disagree with you continually asking about the " aims " of this march

and thats it

its been answered above by at least 3 people TLG.

Based on what has been written in this thread (most of which was written while I was replying), am I right in assuming that the planned march is basically just an expression of dissatisfaction with the way the club has been run in recent years and, therefore, it has no clear aims or objectives other than to give fans an opportunity to demonstrate their anger?

I keep getting asked by people (including the press) what those who are intending to march hope to achieve, and so far I haven't been able to give them an answer other than to say it was a demonstration aimed at getting Peter Ridsdale out, which was how it was being advertised before today.

Communication is the key here. The organisers of this event, and those who are being most vociferous in backing it, need to be able to tell people why they are marching and what they hope to gain out of doing so.

its been answered above by at least 3 people TLG.

Based on what has been written in this thread (most of which was written while I was replying), am I right in assuming that the planned march is basically just an expression of dissatisfaction with the way the club has been run in recent years and, therefore, it has no clear aims or objectives other than to give fans an opportunity to demonstrate their anger?

I keep getting asked by people (including the press) what those who are intending to march hope to achieve, and so far I haven't been able to give them an answer other than to say it was a demonstration aimed at getting Peter Ridsdale out, which was how it was being advertised before today.

Communication is the key here. The organisers of this event, and those who are being most vociferous in backing it, need to be able to tell people why they are marching and what they hope to gain out of doing so.

well giving the fans an opportunity to demonstrate their anger isnt a bad starting point , as long as it is kept in order ?

why dont you tell the press that the demo is nothing to do with the trust , who will be meeting monday to discuss matters ?

and as a member of the trust whatever the majority go for , then I will agree

if the trust put out a statement that any marches have to have clear aims but people as individuals have every right to attend , then thats fine by me


if the trust fully support any future marches then thats fine by me too

why dont you tell the press that the demo is nothing to do with the trust , who will be meeting monday to discuss matters ?

So far, I have told the media people I've spoken to regarding this (two radio reporters and one newspaper journalist) that the protest is totally independent of the Trust, although no doubt individual Trust members would take part in it. I said the aim appeared to be to get Peter Ridsdale to resign, but I was unclear as I was not involved in planning it.

That was what I said on Wednesday and Thursday, and as I was unable to make any clear statements I doubt my words have been used anywhere. Today, the reason for the protest appears to have changed as it is no longer being advertised as a 'Ridsdale Out' march. Therefore, I will have to think of something else to say if any other media people contact me.

well maybe the best thing to do is contact them back and say that as far as you are aware, its now demo to outline the anger at the way the clubs being run ?

thats what I would do

Would love to be there but will have to make my apoligies, can't even got o the game, my wife is due to give birth to baby no.2 that day so need to be relatively near by.

Sorry!!!

The media have been spoken to by the main organisors of the march direct now.

Hi lads, first time poster here although i have been a silent onlooker for a while now. As regards this TLG fellow, dont know him personally but over the past few months i have been able to put a face to the name. seems to me that the easy way for him to overcome his problem would be to pass his media mates over to some of the people that he is asking the questions to on this board. simple really, or would that hinder the progress of your ever increasing celebrity status "Dave"?

I will be marching and the reason I am is to show that I am upset, annoyed and embarassed by how my club is being run, and I would like to see this board of directors make changes as a result.

This board need to know that we will not sit around waiting for our club to go bust and treat us and other business', especially the smaller companys, with the contempt that they do.

Why are we getting so wound up with each other????

Perhaps this is something that has to be prusued through various avenues? You got to do what your conscience allows and where you feel your skills/abilities are best suited to pursuing things. If TLG and the representatives of the Trust feel that they have to take a more pragmatic approach then great and they're within their rights to do so as elected representatives. If there are a large group of people who are discontent enough with the club that they feel a protest is the only viable option for them in expressing in full their dissatisfaction with things then fine, that is their avenue.

Let's just hope that all avenues are pursued in a correct manor, we as supporters don't turn on each other and that there is some positive outcome at the end of these various forms of action.

Call for peace (rant) over!