Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:21 pm
on the Monday evening.
See what you make of this.
I rang PR on Monday night with the intention to ask him one question.
CC : Give me one good reason why I should not demonstrate on Saturday ?
PR : What are you hoping it will achieve ?
CC : To show you and the rest of the board that we are sick of how our club is run and that we will not sit around accepting your lies any longer.
PR : Look at what I have achieved at this club, you dont realise how much mess this club was in when I arrived.
CC : What have you achieved ?
He changed his tone dramatically to that of anger, PR began to shout at me.
PR : How dare you, How dare you say what have I achieved, you have never had it so good, the past 5 years you have been to Wembley, Tell me whens the last time you went to Wembley before I came here ?
CC : Never
PR : Exactly, you got a brand new stadium, a team that finished 7th in this division and you have the cheek to ask me what have I achieved, you are talking out of your backside !
CC : Will you still be as proud when your responsible for taking us into Administration ?
PR : We are not going into Administration, you hav'nt got a clue what your on about.
CC : You expect me to believe that cause Ridsdale says we wont go into admin it wont happen.
PR : We will not go into admin, we got a short term cash flow problem.
CC : You are embarrasing us, every other day another winding up order....
He interupts me mid sentence and is screaming now
PR : There has only been one winding up order, that is with HMRC and its being dealt with.
CC : Liar, there was one in November and now the one in Febuary and what about 'shine' the catering company.
PR : That is with Cardiff City Holdings not the football club, you dont know what your talking about.
CC : It is still associated to our club cant you see it.
PR : I am sick of you lot always phoning me, if it werent for me there would be no club, you tell me what you expect to happen if after your demo i pick up my bat and walk.
CC : I dont know, you tell me.
PR : The club will go into Admin, thats what.
I raised my voice
CC : You said we wont go into Admin earlier.
PR : not while I am here it wont, the only reason this club is not in admin is cause of me, the owners of this football club, Paul Guy and Mike Hall, dont trust anyone else to run this club bar me.
Laughing I replied
CC : It's because of you we will go into admin.
PR : Who do you think will run this football club If I decide to walk away this weekend ?
CC : Borley, possibly ?
PR : Borley cant run a football club,he is an idiot, your not as smart as I thought you were.
CC : He run it before.
PR : And he couldnt hack it, he has been offered the job anyhow and he didnt take it, he would'nt do it for all the tea in China.
CC : Advertise it, I can tell you there are people out there who will do it and be far less of a drain financially on the club, unlike you, someone like Keith Morgan would do it ( sorry Keith, you name came into my head and I said it )
PR : keith Bloody Morgan what does Keith Morgan know about running a football club ?
CC : not sure, but I know he could make the figures work.
PR : If Keith Morgan thinks he can run a football club and he has got ideas, then tell him to get into my office tomorrow afternoon. Who brought you Michael Chopra, who brought you Steve McPhail, not Keith Morgan, Me.24 million pounds worth of players I have sold and spent 7 million since I have been here.
CC : I know and nothing off the debt, incredible init, maybe now you understand one of the reasons we are marching.
PR : You go to Annis Abraham and you ask him if he thinks its clever having 2000 people marching through the streets of Cardiff.
CC : I am not marching for Annis Abraham I am doing it cause I believe your killing my club.
PR : Maybe you want to ask Annis why he is defrauding the club, having adults come in on childrens season tickets, it's no wonder this club got no money.
CC : You have lost it if you think thats the reason this club is in the shit.
PR : The way I feel right now I could ...
CC : Go on say it
PR : I run this club on a shoestring.
CC : Hang on, you were the one delighted to tell the press in August how we were the championship's biggest spenders, so dont start telling me about budgets, you have taken my money and blown it.
PR : I have never taken your money.
CC : Yes you have and you lied to get it.
PR : You are getting a season ticket for it.
CC : And you told me you were using it to strengthen the squad, you lied.
Ridsdale was snarling
PR : How the f**k do you expect me to pay the players, f*cking Peanuts.
CC : No with this years budget, not next years, tell me then you are admitting now you used the season ticket money to pay the players, well answer me this, how do you expect to pay them for March, April and May, come to us the fans and ask for another hand out ?
Ridsdale hung up.
What surprised me about this heated conversation was, I never introduced myself and my number was witheld, he could have been ranting at anyone, he was agitated from the off but got really aggresive with his responses from when I questioned him on what had he achieved and from there on he became more and more so.
I have 2 regrets from this conversation and one is I didnt record it and secondly me and the missus fell out because of the shouting between me and PR that it woke my daughter up.
Ridsdale the pressure has got to you and your struggling to keep a lid on it and you hung up because I said you would come back and beg us the fans for more money and a little over 12 hours the club released its latest begging statement, did you wonder how I knew, cause you were fuming and I bet you hav'nt calmed down yet.
Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:27 pm
Now THAT sounds like the truth as I understand it. Hope you're not a wind up.
Mind you it doesn't make Annis and his new/old (I forget what we're supposed to believe at the moment) mate Borley look good.
Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:30 pm
yep i can confirm it did happen like that, he went mental
Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:32 pm
BlooDan wrote::ayatollah:
Now THAT sounds like the truth as I understand it. Hope you're not a wind up.
Mind you it doesn't make Annis and his new/old (I forget what we're supposed to believe at the moment) mate Borley look good.
Why would I wind up
Terry, he lost it big time the way I explained it was he was grinding his teeth and snarling, he was rattled big time
Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:37 pm
In all fairness, I have to agre with most of what Ridsdale says there. I'm
not surprised he react the way he did though.
With all respect, not many people on here really know what's happning behind the scenes even if they think they do.
Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:38 pm
Certainly sounds as if PR is under a lot of pressure.
Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:45 pm
hailesy wrote:Certainly sounds as if PR is under a lot of pressure.
of course he is if a couple of thousand fans want him sacked!
If we're putting pressure on him I would have thought he'd be getting as much from Guy/Hall seeing as it's their money on the line!
Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:57 pm
CF11 wrote:hailesy wrote:Certainly sounds as if PR is under a lot of pressure.
of course he is if a couple of thousand fans want him sacked!
If we're putting pressure on him I would have thought he'd be getting as much from Guy/Hall seeing as it's their money on the line!
did you read when the whole transcript ,cause according to PR he said to me that Guy and Hall trust only him to run the club
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:03 pm
carlccfc wrote:CF11 wrote:hailesy wrote:Certainly sounds as if PR is under a lot of pressure.
of course he is if a couple of thousand fans want him sacked!
If we're putting pressure on him I would have thought he'd be getting as much from Guy/Hall seeing as it's their money on the line!
did you read when the whole transcript ,cause according to PR he said to me that Guy and Hall trust only him to run the club
maybe it's more they realise sacking the chairman probably isn't the best option at the moment especially seeing as were actively trying to attract investment for a takeover. If I was Hall or Guy I would obviously know more of what's going on, and wouldn't sack Ridsdale if there was a posibility of the Malays taking charge in the near future.
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:06 pm
Also, look at the money they have at stake. If they didn't think keeping Ridsdale was the best option he would be long gone don't you agree?
Carl what do you think the best thing to do is re. Board/Ridsdsle?
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:08 pm
There's only one Carl The Truth
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:10 pm
CF11 wrote:Also, look at the money they have at stake. If they didn't think keeping Ridsdale was the best option he would be long gone don't you agree?
Carl what do you think the best thing to do is re. Board/Ridsdsle?
If they trust him as much as he says then why did Guy instruct auditors to go over the books, what were they looking for ?
The best for our club I believe would be for Ridsdale and Flitcroft to walk away taking not another penny and Guy,Hall and Borley concentrate on getting this club invested in.
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:11 pm
arena wrote:There's only one Carl The Truth
You knew all about it before anyone else
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:18 pm
Thomas Fish. wrote:well played carl
Cheers Thomas I got wound up and by the end I was shouting too but the man is struggling
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:19 pm
CC : I am not marching for Annis Abraham I am doing it cause I believe your killing my club.
PR : Maybe you want to ask Annis why he is defrauding the club, having adults come in on childrens season tickets, it's no wonder this club got no money.
Yes you can ask me, I have 4 Season Tickets plus I sponsor/join everything that helps the Club and give them every Year about £7,000-£10,000 a year towards Accademy/players everything, plus they made Thousands on my Books.
At the start of the Season, I gave my season tickets to Dibs for the first 2 home games and also when they kept searching me for banners I decided enough was enough and I decided to wind them up and come in on My Daughters Card to make them have a real reason to stop me(a prank twice), I had my Card in My hand as well, Stupid prank really but,I got fed up of wheres the banners.
Also I have already sorted that out and the stewards thought it was funny in the end.
OK PR, I CAN LIVE MY SELF I HAVENT ROBBED THOUSANDS OF CITY FANS AND I HAVENT DEFRAUDED THE TAX MAN "WH SPORTS", I PAY MY TAXES EVERY YEAR IN FULL
Also 37 Years Consecutive I have Bought MY season Tickets,
Also please tell them all How he said Borley is just an IDIOT.
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:24 pm
ALSO I PUT MONEY IN TO MY CLUB YOUVE NEVER PUT A PENNY IN TO OUR CLUB RIDSDALE
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:30 pm
Think Riddler is hoping for "Pennies from heaven"
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:30 pm
Forever Blue wrote:CC : I am not marching for Annis Abraham I am doing it cause I believe your killing my club.
PR : Maybe you want to ask Annis why he is defrauding the club, having adults come in on childrens season tickets, it's no wonder this club got no money.
Yes you can ask me, I have 4 Season Tickets plus I sponsor/join everything that helps the Club and give them every Year about £7,000-£10,000 a year towards Accademy/players everything, plus they made Thousands on my Books.
At the start of the Season, I gave my season tickets to Dibs for the first 2 home games and also when they kept searching me for banners I decided enough was enough and I decided to wind them up and come in on My Daughters Card to make them have a real reason to stop me(a prank twice), I had my Card in My hand as well, Stupid prank really but,I got fed up of wheres the banners.
Also I have already sorted that out and the stewards thought it was funny in the end.
OK PR, I CAN LIVE MY SELF I HAVENT ROBBED THOUSANDS OF CITY FANS AND I HAVENT DEFRAUDED THE TAX MAN "WH SPORTS", I PAY MY TAXES EVERY YEAR IN FULL
Also 37 Years Consecutive I have Bought MY season Tickets,
Also please tell them all How he said Borley is just an IDIOT.
Yes your right I knew I would forget something, he did call Borley an idiot when I said Borley could run the club.
Wed Mar 03, 2010 9:34 pm
carlccfc wrote:CF11 wrote:Also, look at the money they have at stake. If they didn't think keeping Ridsdale was the best option he would be long gone don't you agree?
Carl what do you think the best thing to do is re. Board/Ridsdsle?
If they trust him as much as he says then why did Guy instruct auditors to go over the books, what were they looking for ?
The best for our club I believe would be for Ridsdale and Flitcroft to walk away taking not another penny and Guy,Hall and Borley concentrate on getting this club invested in.
If they didn't trust him he'd be gone. Why would they risk their money? Their not stupid men.
Thing is, Hall/Guy haven't got the time and neither has borley really
why not stick with Ridsdale and hope Borley can get the malaysians on board? It's not as if we have any other choice at the moment. No point destabilising the club anymore until the malaysians come on board(if they do)
Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:12 pm
carlccfc wrote:Forever Blue wrote:CC : I am not marching for Annis Abraham I am doing it cause I believe your killing my club.
PR : Maybe you want to ask Annis why he is defrauding the club, having adults come in on childrens season tickets, it's no wonder this club got no money.
Yes you can ask me, I have 4 Season Tickets plus I sponsor/join everything that helps the Club and give them every Year about £7,000-£10,000 a year towards Accademy/players everything, plus they made Thousands on my Books.
At the start of the Season, I gave my season tickets to Dibs for the first 2 home games and also when they kept searching me for banners I decided enough was enough and I decided to wind them up and come in on My Daughters Card to make them have a real reason to stop me(a prank twice), I had my Card in My hand as well, Stupid prank really but,I got fed up of wheres the banners.
Also I have already sorted that out and the stewards thought it was funny in the end.
OK PR, I CAN LIVE MY SELF I HAVENT ROBBED THOUSANDS OF CITY FANS AND I HAVENT DEFRAUDED THE TAX MAN "WH SPORTS", I PAY MY TAXES EVERY YEAR IN FULL
Also 37 Years Consecutive I have Bought MY season Tickets,
Also please tell them all How he said Borley is just an IDIOT.
Yes your right I knew I would forget something, he did call Borley an idiot when I said Borley could run the club.
An idiot who saved Ridsdale's skin by buying the house of sport.
Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:08 pm
maybe we should all ring him, keep him under pressure.
Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:16 am
CF11 wrote:carlccfc wrote:CF11 wrote:Also, look at the money they have at stake. If they didn't think keeping Ridsdale was the best option he would be long gone don't you agree?
Carl what do you think the best thing to do is re. Board/Ridsdsle?
If they trust him as much as he says then why did Guy instruct auditors to go over the books, what were they looking for ?
The best for our club I believe would be for Ridsdale and Flitcroft to walk away taking not another penny and Guy,Hall and Borley concentrate on getting this club invested in.
If they didn't trust him he'd be gone. Why would they risk their money? Their not stupid men.
Thing is, Hall/Guy haven't got the time and neither has borley really
why not stick with Ridsdale and hope Borley can get the malaysians on board? It's not as if we have any other choice at the moment. No point destabilising the club anymore until the malaysians come on board(if they do)
i think the grabbing of hotel-land was pivotal to PMG plan,from there on they may take a different look at things.my opinion only.
Thu Mar 04, 2010 8:20 am
Forever Blue wrote:CC : I am not marching for Annis Abraham I am doing it cause I believe your killing my club.
PR : Maybe you want to ask Annis why he is defrauding the club, having adults come in on childrens season tickets, it's no wonder this club got no money.
Yes you can ask me, I have 4 Season Tickets plus I sponsor/join everything that helps the Club and give them every Year about £7,000-£10,000 a year towards Accademy/players everything, plus they made Thousands on my Books.
At the start of the Season, I gave my season tickets to Dibs for the first 2 home games and also when they kept searching me for banners I decided enough was enough and I decided to wind them up and come in on My Daughters Card to make them have a real reason to stop me(a prank twice), I had my Card in My hand as well, Stupid prank really but,I got fed up of wheres the banners.
Also I have already sorted that out and the stewards thought it was funny in the end.
OK PR, I CAN LIVE MY SELF I HAVENT ROBBED THOUSANDS OF CITY FANS AND I HAVENT DEFRAUDED THE TAX MAN "WH SPORTS", I PAY MY TAXES EVERY YEAR IN FULL
Also 37 Years Consecutive I have Bought MY season Tickets,
Also please tell them all How he said Borley is just an IDIOT.
I think a 'text' to Ridsdale is in order explaining that if he ever tells anyone you are defrauding the club again, you will instruct your lawyers
Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:02 am
we've all lent out ST's to other ppl when we cant go and wouldnt PR rather see a bum on a seat than an empty 1 ? Coz that then frees up another potential sale aswell as the person in my seat will most prob buy a pint or something too . thought it was fuuny as f**k the last home game watching the ticket gestapo stopping everyone who came in on an orange light
Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:23 am
Lol, yes he really has lost it.
This demo seems to be really getting under their skin.
Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:26 am
BluebirdsFan101 wrote:Lol, yes he really has lost it.
This demo seems to be really getting under their skin.
Big time, I believe he has all the News papers across his desk and cant sit still keeps walking up and down.
Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:17 pm
I reckon by the weekend he may be over the edge.
We should all look out for him, he may be licking the window throughout the whole game
ha ha ha