We aint spineless We aint soul sellers

We are real fans who stick with their team no matter what!!
I think 99% of you will turn up at the ccs if we are doing well with your tails between your legs

I think 99% of us are intending to turn up anyway

We are real fans who stick with their team no matter what!!
I think 99% of you will turn up at the ccs if we are doing well with your tails between your legs

A lot of us will feel like we're letting the owners win even more by letting them drive us away from the club, so I'm not sure it's right to laugh about something that is clearly so dear to people.

I think 99% of us are intending to turn up anyway

99% of the moaners against the change..

We are real fans who stick with their team no matter what!!
I think 99% of you will turn up at the ccs if we are doing well with your tails between your legs

I shall be mocking you over the season with it also when we get f**k all on the pitch where it matters, f*cking sellouts the lot of you, i guess thats a real fan these days

Ive been watching city since 82/83 season hardly a sell out... When are you so called fans deleting your accounts and turning your back on cardiff city?

We are real fans who stick with their team no matter what!!
I think 99% of you will turn up at the ccs if we are doing well with your tails between your legs

I shall be mocking you over the season with it also when we get f**k all on the pitch where it matters, f*cking sellouts the lot of you, i guess thats a real fan these days

does that mean you wont be there or will you be mocking everyone near you who doesnt agree with you??? but just in case we do get there what will you say then?? nothing useful no doubt!!

We are real fans who stick with their team no matter what!!
I think 99% of you will turn up at the ccs if we are doing well with your tails between your legs

I shall be mocking you over the season with it also when we get f**k all on the pitch where it matters, f*cking sellouts the lot of you, i guess thats a real fan these days

Will you still be mocking us if we have a great season? What form will this mocking take?

We are real fans who stick with their team no matter what!!
I think 99% of you will turn up at the ccs if we are doing well with your tails between your legs

I shall be mocking you over the season with it also when we get f**k all on the pitch where it matters, f*cking sellouts the lot of you, i guess thats a real fan these days

Ive been watching city since 82/83 season hardly a sell out... When are you so called fans deleting your accounts and turning your back on cardiff city?

Where do i state i was deleting my account and turning my back on cardiff city Your still a sellout FACT you believe anything the malaysians will say yet they lied to you and us all already in there open letter have they not???
i bet you was vs the riddler when he spun his lies to us and we all protested now we all get lied to by these malaysians (ALL THERE IN VT OPEN LETTER) people want to roll over and be ticked its hilarious really what a false money hope for a squad will hide for some people

We are all aloud an opinion no matter what sde you are on but the club has divided fans and thats not good.

I hate the changes and I just can't live with no matter how hard I try .To me Cardiff City is a whole new club with a new identity which they have created but the pride the passion and devotion I have for my club and that means are badge ,colours which I grew up with are gone so to me Cardiff City are gone and the pride and passion etc I can not bring to this new idea.

What I will do with my season tickets I dont no but if I do go and dont think the same feeling will be inside towards this new what ever it is ?

I shall be here giving my views on are new team of superstars next season as you all seem to think

We are all aloud an opinion no matter what sde you are on but the club has divided fans and thats not good.

I hate the changes and I just can't live with no matter how hard I try .To me Cardiff City is a whole new club with a new identity which they have created but the pride the passion and devotion I have for my club and that means are badge ,colours which I grew up with are gone so to me Cardiff City are gone and the pride and passion etc I can not bring to this new idea.

What I will do with my season tickets I dont no but if I do go and dont think the same feeling will be inside towards this new what ever it is ?

Same manager, same players (mostly), playing in the same City in front of the same fans who go to the same cafe's and pubs with the same mates etc

But in red instead of blue, a bit like going to an away game.

We are real fans who stick with their team no matter what!!
I think 99% of you will turn up at the ccs if we are doing well with your tails between your legs

I shall be mocking you over the season with it also when we get f**k all on the pitch where it matters, f*cking sellouts the lot of you, i guess thats a real fan these days

Ive been watching city since 82/83 season hardly a sell out... When are you so called fans deleting your accounts and turning your back on cardiff city?

Where do i state i was deleting my account and turning my back on cardiff city Your still a sellout FACT you believe anything the malaysians will say yet they lied to you and us all already in there open letter have they not???
i bet you was vs the riddler when he spun his lies to us and we all protested now we all get lied to by these malaysians (ALL THERE IN VT OPEN LETTER) people want to roll over and be ticked its hilarious really what a false money hope for a squad will hide for some people

What shall i do just come on here throwing toys out of my pram? Will that help? will that stop them changing to red if i do that?
What are you doing about it are you planning on stopping the change or will you just come on the forum like the few others and whinge about it to fans who are sticking by the club?

I shall be here giving my views on are new team of superstars next season as you all seem to think

No one with any sense thinks we are going to have a team of superstars. The investment is to ensure the future stability of the club. Do you have any respect for fellow fans opinions?

We are real fans who stick with their team no matter what!!
I think 99% of you will turn up at the ccs if we are doing well with your tails between your legs

I shall be mocking you over the season with it also when we get f**k all on the pitch where it matters, f*cking sellouts the lot of you, i guess thats a real fan these days

Ive been watching city since 82/83 season hardly a sell out... When are you so called fans deleting your accounts and turning your back on cardiff city?

Where do i state i was deleting my account and turning my back on cardiff city Your still a sellout FACT you believe anything the malaysians will say yet they lied to you and us all already in there open letter have they not???
i bet you was vs the riddler when he spun his lies to us and we all protested now we all get lied to by these malaysians (ALL THERE IN VT OPEN LETTER) people want to roll over and be ticked its hilarious really what a false money hope for a squad will hide for some people

What shall i do just come on here throwing toys out of my pram? Will that help? will that stop them changing to red if i do that?
What are you doing about it are you planning on stopping the change or will you just come on the forum like the few others and whinge about it to fans who are sticking by the club?

I shall do the same as what your doing making threads and posting but in my posts/threads i will keep it real because i dont like being lied to you obviously do and are willing to take it

I shall be here giving my views on are new team of superstars next season as you all seem to think

Do you have any respect for fellow fans opinions?

No not anymore i dont, how can people have respect for others who do not deserve respect only gloat over some red colour

I shall be here giving my views on are new team of superstars next season as you all seem to think

Do you have any respect for fellow fans opinions?

No not anymore i dont, how can people have respect for others who do not deserve respect only gloat over some red colour

I can see I'm wasting my time then. Night night.

I shall be here giving my views on are new team of superstars next season as you all seem to think

Do you have any respect for fellow fans opinions?

No not anymore i dont, how can people have respect for others who do not deserve respect only gloat over some red colour

I can see I'm wasting my time then. Night night.

bye gloater

I shall be here giving my views on are new team of superstars next season as you all seem to think

Do you have any respect for fellow fans opinions?

No not anymore i dont, how can people have respect for others who do not deserve respect

probly other fans dont respect you for your blatant anti malasian stance, as it is always negative and biased, dont mention any good points like training/academy! why should you as it doesnt suite you and your opinions!!

I shall be here giving my views on are new team of superstars next season as you all seem to think

Do you have any respect for fellow fans opinions?

No not anymore i dont, how can people have respect for others who do not deserve respect

probly other fans dont respect you for your blatant anti malasian stance, as it is always negative and biased, dont mention any good points like training/academy! why should you as it doesnt suite you and your opinions!!

I agree because im a realist take this thread for example we got a guy saying the red side are the real fans yet the blue side are not , but these people want respect over a post with in it and gloating after whats gone on. If you enjoy being lied to like past owners and doing nothing about it thats up to you but thats how it is here and whats gone on

We are all aloud an opinion no matter what sde you are on but the club has divided fans and thats not good.

I hate the changes and I just can't live with no matter how hard I try .To me Cardiff City is a whole new club with a new identity which they have created but the pride the passion and devotion I have for my club and that means are badge ,colours which I grew up with are gone so to me Cardiff City are gone and the pride and passion etc I can not bring to this new idea.

What I will do with my season tickets I dont no but if I do go and dont think the same feeling will be inside towards this new what ever it is ?

Same manager, same players (mostly), playing in the same City in front of the same fans who go to the same cafe's and pubs with the same mates etc

But in red instead of blue, a bit like going to an away game.

Yea fair play I just wish I could think like that but it all goes deep with me are unique identity is gone and I hate it.

I shall be here giving my views on are new team of superstars next season as you all seem to think

Do you have any respect for fellow fans opinions?

No not anymore i dont, how can people have respect for others who do not deserve respect

probly other fans dont respect you for your blatant anti malasian stance, as it is always negative and biased, dont mention any good points like training/academy! why should you as it doesnt suite you and your opinions!!

I agree because im a realist take this thread for example we got a guy saying the red side are the real fans yet the blue side are not , but these people want respect over a post with in it and gloating after whats gone on. If you enjoy being lied to like past owners and doing nothing about it thats up to you but thats how it is here and whats gone on

have to agree up to a point but dont forget we have been lied to by all our owners except rick right sam lied about langstone he is langstone??? and would you trust him after what he did to wimbledon?? but hey who cares what is not in dispute at preesent is vt has put in 40mil without actually taking any money out yet??? at present all hes done is lie about changes to shirts ect what should worry about is if dont invest in other plans he has stated they will do! i am not happy with changes but dont you think we have to go along with it as what alternative do we have to there investment?? that is question no anti red fans can or will anser as we all no what the anser is>??

perhaps you can tell me why he is putting in 40mil at present without a hope in hells chance to get it back???

perhaps you can tell me why he is putting in 40mil at present without a hope in hells chance to get it back???

If I may jump in, but in the realms of possibilities, some suggestions may be massive land deals for Tan in Malaysia which can be far easier achieved through owning a football club, and perhaps the need for a tool to help promote his betting company. Both of which are far, far bigger fish than our football club, which of course leaves us at risk - will he care about 40million when he has made another billion from the land deals? Hypothetically, of course. Malaysia is a very secretive country, and information is hard to obtain.

perhaps you can tell me why he is putting in 40mil at present without a hope in hells chance to get it back???

If I may jump in, but in the realms of possibilities, some suggestions may be massive land deals for Tan in Malaysia which can be far easier achieved through owning a football club, and perhaps the need for a tool to help promote his betting company. Both of which are far, far bigger fish than our football club, which of course leaves us at risk - will he care about 40million when he has made another billion from the land deals? Hypothetically, of course. Malaysia is a very secretive country, and information is hard to obtain.

ah yes true but if he is personally liable for all the the debt which i understand he will be at end of things, he will have to sell club at same price or he will lose money big gabble in reality for him dont you think??

perhaps you can tell me why he is putting in 40mil at present without a hope in hells chance to get it back???

If I may jump in, but in the realms of possibilities, some suggestions may be massive land deals for Tan in Malaysia which can be far easier achieved through owning a football club, and perhaps the need for a tool to help promote his betting company. Both of which are far, far bigger fish than our football club, which of course leaves us at risk - will he care about 40million when he has made another billion from the land deals? Hypothetically, of course. Malaysia is a very secretive country, and information is hard to obtain.

ah yes true but if he is personally liable for all the the debt which i understand he will be at end of things, he will have to sell club at same price or he will lose money big gabble in reality for him dont you think??

Why do you think hes liable for the debt?

Hes not - we are. and we will currently be in debt £18 million per season for the forseeable future.

perhaps you can tell me why he is putting in 40mil at present without a hope in hells chance to get it back???

If I may jump in, but in the realms of possibilities, some suggestions may be massive land deals for Tan in Malaysia which can be far easier achieved through owning a football club, and perhaps the need for a tool to help promote his betting company. Both of which are far, far bigger fish than our football club, which of course leaves us at risk - will he care about 40million when he has made another billion from the land deals? Hypothetically, of course. Malaysia is a very secretive country, and information is hard to obtain.

ah yes true but if he is personally liable for all the the debt which i understand he will be at end of things, he will have to sell club at same price or he will lose money big gabble in reality for him dont you think??

Why do you think hes liable for the debt?

Hes not - we are. and we will currently be in debt £18 million per season for the forseeable future.

at moment we are but he plans to turn it into shares which he is liable for so if he fails he financially will do aswell!
as for loseing money yes true so if he bails out then what???

perhaps you can tell me why he is putting in 40mil at present without a hope in hells chance to get it back???

If I may jump in, but in the realms of possibilities, some suggestions may be massive land deals for Tan in Malaysia which can be far easier achieved through owning a football club, and perhaps the need for a tool to help promote his betting company. Both of which are far, far bigger fish than our football club, which of course leaves us at risk - will he care about 40million when he has made another billion from the land deals? Hypothetically, of course. Malaysia is a very secretive country, and information is hard to obtain.

ah yes true but if he is personally liable for all the the debt which i understand he will be at end of things, he will have to sell club at same price or he will lose money big gabble in reality for him dont you think??

Why do you think hes liable for the debt?

Hes not - we are. and we will currently be in debt £18 million per season for the forseeable future.

at moment we are but he plans to turn it into shares which he is liable for so if he fails he financially will do aswell!
as for loseing money yes true so if he bails out then what???

No his plans are to turn his investment into shares which is around £90 million. everything after that is on us and debt.

If he bails then great, as far as we are concerned the sooner the better - then we can get on with cleaning up the mess.

perhaps you can tell me why he is putting in 40mil at present without a hope in hells chance to get it back???

If I may jump in, but in the realms of possibilities, some suggestions may be massive land deals for Tan in Malaysia which can be far easier achieved through owning a football club, and perhaps the need for a tool to help promote his betting company. Both of which are far, far bigger fish than our football club, which of course leaves us at risk - will he care about 40million when he has made another billion from the land deals? Hypothetically, of course. Malaysia is a very secretive country, and information is hard to obtain.

ah yes true but if he is personally liable for all the the debt which i understand he will be at end of things, he will have to sell club at same price or he will lose money big gabble in reality for him dont you think??

Why do you think hes liable for the debt?

Hes not - we are. and we will currently be in debt £18 million per season for the forseeable future.

at moment we are but he plans to turn it into shares which he is liable for so if he fails he financially will do aswell!
as for loseing money yes true so if he bails out then what???

No his plans are to turn his investment into shares which is around £90 million. everything after that is on us and debt.

If he bails then great, as far as we are concerned the sooner the better - then we can get on with cleaning up the mess.

ok he bails out now?? then what? as we are 40mil+ his bit in debt?? how do we clean up mess???

Ok well first job is to stop losing money. THE ONLY way you can do this is to cut expenditure (not increase it as the Malaysians are doing).

We need to renegotiate player contracts urgently. We need to offload the big earner and get highly paid directors off our books.

We need to sell our player assets Mason, Whitts, Hudson, Miller and Earnie. The fee from Mason and Hudson can pay off Langston now we know they will accept a full and final settlement. The fees from Miller, Earnie and Whitts can go straight to Tan - £7 million? leaving us £33 million in debt to him.

By paying Langston and operating at break even we dont have to spend our ST money before we get it meaning that can also go to Tan. £7 million a year ST money means his debt will be gone and we will be completey debt free in 5 seaons time and ready to learn lessons, start again and rebuild.

Simple business.

Ok well first job is to stop losing money. THE ONLY way you can do this is to cut expenditure (not increase it as the Malaysians are doing).

We need to renegotiate player contracts urgently. We need to offload the big earner and get highly paid directors off our books.

We need to sell our player assets Mason, Whitts, Hudson, Miller and Earnie. The fee from Mason and Hudson can pay off Langston now we know they will accept a full and final settlement. The fees from Miller, Earnie and Whitts can go straight to Tan - £7 million? leaving us £33 million in debt to him.

By paying Langston and operating at break even we dont have to spend our ST money before we get it meaning that can also go to Tan. £7 million a year ST money means his debt will be gone and we will be completey debt free in 5 seaons time and ready to learn lessons, start again and rebuild.

Simple business.

what about pmg and ray ranston?? also lose palyers lose fans lose fans lose income more debt ? ooops forgot anyother people we owe monety to hm taxes ect

Ok well first job is to stop losing money. THE ONLY way you can do this is to cut expenditure (not increase it as the Malaysians are doing).

We need to renegotiate player contracts urgently. We need to offload the big earner and get highly paid directors off our books.

We need to sell our player assets Mason, Whitts, Hudson, Miller and Earnie. The fee from Mason and Hudson can pay off Langston now we know they will accept a full and final settlement. The fees from Miller, Earnie and Whitts can go straight to Tan - £7 million? leaving us £33 million in debt to him.

By paying Langston and operating at break even we dont have to spend our ST money before we get it meaning that can also go to Tan. £7 million a year ST money means his debt will be gone and we will be completey debt free in 5 seaons time and ready to learn lessons, start again and rebuild.

Simple business.

what about pmg and ray ranston?? also lose palyers lose fans lose fans lose income more debt ? ooops forgot anyother people we owe monety to hm taxes ect

Ranston and PMG are fine, they are being paid off with selling Premier seats. Taxes are a necessity and are all part of the £1.2 million losses which we would wipe out by operating at break even.

Yes we would lose players, but replace them with frees or nominal fees. Lose fans? I doubt it. Less income? hardly.