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Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:33 am
9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out, Some really shocking stuff in this that makes you wonder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW6mJOqRDI4
Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:45 am
This is so 2005
Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:23 pm
Do we need this shit here as we'll as CCMB?
Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:35 pm
RFMH wrote:Do we need this shit here as we'll as CCMB?
Yes
Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:42 pm
There are forums all over the Internet for this kind of rubbish though, why bring it to a Cardiff football website?
Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:12 pm
These things alway contain views from someone who worked for NASA or the CIA who know first hand what went on. I wonder if his log on name is "The Insider".
I also wonder if it's the same "expert" who claimed another planet was going to crash right in to us back in May? Still waiting on that one.
Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:18 pm
RFMH wrote:There are forums all over the Internet for this kind of rubbish though, why bring it to a Cardiff football website?
Because i can whats it got to do with you hitler, take alook around the forums main first page "General Chat" it consists of boxing, music, drugs, Tv progs, homo chimpansies and many many more threads that should be in other forums as you put it so whats the diffrence or can this forum only speak of football nothing else because you say so, why not go post in them threads also or send in the gestapo
Thu Sep 27, 2012 1:24 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:RFMH wrote:There are forums all over the Internet for this kind of rubbish though, why bring it to a Cardiff football website?
Because i can whats it got to do with you hitler, take alook around the forums main first page "General Chat" it consists of boxing, music, drugs, Tv progs, homo chimpansies and many many more threads that should be in other forums as you put it so whats the diffrence or can this forum only speak of football nothing else because you say so, why not go post in them threads also or send in the gestapo
No need to justify yourself, post what you like.
I like reading the various 9/11 conspiracy theroies, I've read many a book on it. Most are far fetched but some do appear to have substance
Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:42 pm
I think if a dog poos on the pavement in the US someone will kick up a conspiracy about it. They do on every single event that has ever happened over there. You can imagine when that Indian fella jumped to his death there were people claiming a UFO did it.
I think a lot of it is pure disbelief that someone as low tech as a sand dweller could do so much damage. They simply underestimated what a suicide bomber could do if he got his hands on plane.
There's no conspiracy. Simply some people hijacked some planes and crashed them in to some buildings. The only one I'd buy is the plane that didn't hit anything. I think they knew it was hijacked and so they shot it down before it could reach it's destination, which was probably something like the White house.
These nutters wanted maximum damage and they chose targets to match, simple as that really.
Thu Sep 27, 2012 2:54 pm
It's a free message board or I think it is.
As for OP it's all old hat and nothing new
but in this fucked up world you just wouldn't be suprised Hmmm
Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:42 pm
It was a cover up for the yanks to go fleech oil and attack others along with us being the lapdogs to them as normal lets face it.
If a doctor said to you your going to die in two weeks due to something what would you say " your talking bullshit" NOT. So whats the diffrence all these people in the prog are respected engineers and so on, why would they make this shit up
Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:58 pm
bluebird1977 wrote:It was a cover up for the yanks to go fleech oil and attack others along with us being the lapdogs to them as normal lets face it.
If a doctor said to you your going to die in two weeks due to something what would you say " your talking bullshit" NOT. So whats the diffrence all these people in the prog are respected engineers and so on, why would they make this shit up
Are they really engineers? I mean really??? Like I said there's plenty of videos on YouTube about that planet that was set to crash in to earth back in May. Those videos feature real NASA scientists who've studied the planet and shit, They know all about the cover up and why! I'm talking real life NASA insiders. Yeah right!
Why? I have no idea but probably for exactly the same reasons why this nosey old bat of a woman, that lives by me, spends most of her days making shit up about people simply to gossip about them.
Fact is, yes they wanted the oil but they didn't need to blow their own shit up to invade. They had a nice little story kicking up about pipes and hidden nuclear weopans, that was all they needed. If they were going to blow something up then it would have been a nobody building with nobody people. NOT the single (or double) most important building in the US.
Thu Sep 27, 2012 4:07 pm
Berwyn wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:It was a cover up for the yanks to go fleech oil and attack others along with us being the lapdogs to them as normal lets face it.
If a doctor said to you your going to die in two weeks due to something what would you say " your talking bullshit" NOT. So whats the diffrence all these people in the prog are respected engineers and so on, why would they make this shit up
Are they really engineers? I mean really??? Like I said there's plenty of videos on YouTube about that planet that was set to crash in to earth back in May. Those videos feature real NASA scientists who've studied the planet and shit, They know all about the cover up and why! I'm talking real life NASA insiders. Yeah right!
Why? I have no idea but probably for exactly the same reasons why this nosey old bat of a woman, that lives by me, spends most of her days making shit up about people simply to gossip about them.
Fact is, yes they wanted the oil but they didn't need to blow their own shit up to invade. They had a nice little story kicking up about pipes and hidden nuclear weopans, that was all they needed. If they were going to blow something up then it would have been a nobody building with nobody people. NOT the single (or double) most important building in the US.
Max damage for the bigger reaction thats what i think and look what happen and is still going on, i will remember to ask my doctor the next time is he really a doctor
Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:14 pm
Why would they make it up ? They could be nutters, they may want the attention, They may not be respected in there profession, Or they may well be on to something
But as you know i work in the Nuclear industry and there is this Professor called Dr Busby and he claimed he had proof that Nuclear Power Stations were the cause of Leukemia in clusters around Power Plants. People believed him because of his title even though the scientific journal had dismissed his evidence as totally flawed and within his profession he was known as a crackpot.
Thu Sep 27, 2012 6:31 pm
Berwyn wrote:These things alway contain views from someone who worked for NASA or the CIA who know first hand what went on. I wonder if his log on name is "The Insider".
I also wonder if it's the same "expert" who claimed another planet was going to crash right in to us back in May? Still waiting on that one.
Naburu hit the post.
The fabled plant of doom that is going to pass by in the near or far future and suck all us humans off the planet. Pah, try telling that to the local constabulary after standing near the women's tennis courts in Wimbledon with yer troosers round yer ankles..
Thu Sep 27, 2012 8:31 pm
There was a documentary on about the Pentagon plane and that is was a setup, the plane was small and full of explosives etc etc. My mate who works in GE in Nantgarw said he'd seen it and the Expert was saying that the there was no way the aircraft was a 757. He said the next shot after the expert interview showed the disaster scene and a plate sticking out of the ground that was a part from an RB211 engine that sits on the wing of most 757 not your average Cessna with Lee Harvey Oswald at the controls!
Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:27 pm
Einstein wrote:There was a documentary on about the Pentagon plane and that is was a setup, the plane was small and full of explosives etc etc. My mate who works in GE in Nantgarw said he'd seen it and the Expert was saying that the there was no way the aircraft was a 757. He said the next shot after the expert interview showed the disaster scene and a plate sticking out of the ground that was a part from an RB211 engine that sits on the wing of most 757 not your average Cessna with Lee Harvey Oswald at the controls!
For fucks sake. Did you read that missive before you bunged it up? This is not CCMB whereby the wide eyed rabbits (lefties) stare in awe at such knowledge. Where do I start?
"The plane was small and full of explosives", a documentary on the Pentagon, an admin building, so a set up?
"My mate" yeh OK, GE General Electric perhaps? Don't know what you're saying here or where or what Nantgarw is. Agree on the plane id though, it wasn't a 757 first time I've seen this mentioned, it was supposedly a 737 made by Boeing. Boeing use Pratt and Whitney engines in the US not Rolls Royce so kills the RB211 off. As an aside I'd look up what an RB211 engine is and power outputs, etc. As for the Cessna comment, I'm assuming you think the Cessna only make small little four or five seater planes? They don't they make much bigger ones which a joy to fly to be honest, seat up to 200 soles I believe and have now sorted the DB series.
Stop listening to the lefty bullshit, anyone with basic coordination can fly a plane, if you can drive a car competently then you can fly a plane. Flying a plane into a building does however require a left wing orientated mindset, no fecking sane person would it but hey ho, tooth fairies, god, allah, big brother, etc, etc etc.
Thu Sep 27, 2012 9:49 pm
RFMH wrote:There are forums all over the Internet for this kind of rubbish though, why bring it to a Cardiff football website?
sorry,but to me,if you dont want to read......dont open...simples
Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:12 pm
krabb wrote:RFMH wrote:There are forums all over the Internet for this kind of rubbish though, why bring it to a Cardiff football website?
sorry,but to me,if you dont want to read......dont open...simples
Exactly. The subject was in the title ffs.
Homo chimpansies
Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:28 pm
Berwyn wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:It was a cover up for the yanks to go fleech oil and attack others along with us being the lapdogs to them as normal lets face it.
If a doctor said to you your going to die in two weeks due to something what would you say " your talking bullshit" NOT. So whats the diffrence all these people in the prog are respected engineers and so on, why would they make this shit up
Are they really engineers? I mean really??? Like I said there's plenty of videos on YouTube about that planet that was set to crash in to earth back in May. Those videos feature real NASA scientists who've studied the planet and shit, They know all about the cover up and why! I'm talking real life NASA insiders. Yeah right!
Why? I have no idea but probably for exactly the same reasons why this nosey old bat of a woman, that lives by me, spends most of her days making shit up about people simply to gossip about them.
Fact is, yes they wanted the oil but they didn't need to blow their own shit up to invade. They had a nice little story kicking up about pipes and hidden nuclear weopans, that was all they needed. If they were going to blow something up then it would have been a nobody building with nobody people. NOT the single (or double) most important building in the US.
berwyn
i would put all the conspiracy theories to bed if i could just see a video or picture of a plane flying into the pentagon. must be one of the most camered up places in the world but not one image of that plane.
Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:23 pm
Berwyn wrote:I think if a dog poos on the pavement in the US someone will kick up a conspiracy about it. They do on every single event that has ever happened over there. You can imagine when that Indian fella jumped to his death there were people claiming a UFO did it.
Just shows what little trust they have in their government, and rightly so as well
Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:48 pm
There are definitely loads of conspiracies and cover ups going on. Look at the Hillsborough incident. That is definitely not an isolated incident. They will do anything to protect their own.
Whether 9/11 is one of them I don't know but it wouldn't surprise me if a few years down the line it came out the real truth. Im really not shocked by anything any more.
Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:33 am
steve davies wrote:Berwyn wrote:bluebird1977 wrote:It was a cover up for the yanks to go fleech oil and attack others along with us being the lapdogs to them as normal lets face it.
If a doctor said to you your going to die in two weeks due to something what would you say " your talking bullshit" NOT. So whats the diffrence all these people in the prog are respected engineers and so on, why would they make this shit up
Are they really engineers? I mean really??? Like I said there's plenty of videos on YouTube about that planet that was set to crash in to earth back in May. Those videos feature real NASA scientists who've studied the planet and shit, They know all about the cover up and why! I'm talking real life NASA insiders. Yeah right!
Why? I have no idea but probably for exactly the same reasons why this nosey old bat of a woman, that lives by me, spends most of her days making shit up about people simply to gossip about them.
Fact is, yes they wanted the oil but they didn't need to blow their own shit up to invade. They had a nice little story kicking up about pipes and hidden nuclear weopans, that was all they needed. If they were going to blow something up then it would have been a nobody building with nobody people. NOT the single (or double) most important building in the US.
berwyn
i would put all the conspiracy theories to bed if i could just see a video or picture of a plane flying into the pentagon. must be one of the most camered up places in the world but not one image of that plane.
Oh yea that one had me thinking also a hole the size of a bus going in to it and not one bit of plane wreckage
but its camera paradise for two miles around the fecking place steve.
Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:50 am
What i want to know is how the f**k that 3rd trade building collapsed
and no other building the same distance didn't, and also like the guy said, they got rid of all the evidence and sent to china to be recycled before anyone could investigate it.
Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:58 am
StockrA wrote:What i want to know is how the f**k that 3rd trade building collapsed
and no other building the same distance didn't, and also like the guy said, they got rid of all the evidence and sent to china to be recycled before anyone could investigate it.
Yep it makes you wonder and its hardly ever spoken about in the media its supposed to have fallen down to ashes by a fire near the top floor, if you believe that
, i wonder why hmm
Fri Sep 28, 2012 11:02 am
Trust me, I love a conspiracy, I'm one of the worst for them. But I don't think this is one. I think it was simply - nutters hijack planes and crash them in to big buildings. It was a really easy thing to do for them at the time. I think people struggle to give these nutters the credit for being able to launch such a simple but effective attack.
Yes I bet they did hide evidence and collect things up, took them away etc. But that doesn't mean it was an inside job.
Fri Sep 28, 2012 3:24 pm
bet china done some test on the metal.
CCFC
Fri Sep 28, 2012 7:47 pm
Berwyn wrote:Trust me, I love a conspiracy, I'm one of the worst for them. But I don't think this is one. I think it was simply - nutters hijack planes and crash them in to big buildings. It was a really easy thing to do for them at the time. I think people struggle to give these nutters the credit for being able to launch such a simple but effective attack.
Yes I bet they did hide evidence and collect things up, took them away etc. But that doesn't mean it was an inside job.
fair enough the "hijackers" took control of a plane,
but.. why were they not intercepted minutes after going off-course which is standard procedure..
before 9-11 hundreds of flights went a few degrees offcourse and were intercepted by fighter jets.. all 100% interceptions.
on 9-11 all 4 planes were not intercepted.. planes were not even scrambled. As someone on youtube had said... "Do you think a man in a cave could force NORAD to stand down?"
There is no doubt in my mind that 9/11 was an inside job..
I am an open minded individual.. show me evidence that the "official" story is true.
Fri Sep 28, 2012 10:18 pm
Willy the Wombat wrote:Einstein wrote:There was a documentary on about the Pentagon plane and that is was a setup, the plane was small and full of explosives etc etc. My mate who works in GE in Nantgarw said he'd seen it and the Expert was saying that the there was no way the aircraft was a 757. He said the next shot after the expert interview showed the disaster scene and a plate sticking out of the ground that was a part from an RB211 engine that sits on the wing of most 757 not your average Cessna with Lee Harvey Oswald at the controls!
For fucks sake. Did you read that missive before you bunged it up? This is not CCMB whereby the wide eyed rabbits (lefties) stare in awe at such knowledge. Where do I start?
"The plane was small and full of explosives", a documentary on the Pentagon, an admin building, so a set up?
"My mate" yeh OK, GE General Electric perhaps? Don't know what you're saying here or where or what Nantgarw is. Agree on the plane id though, it wasn't a 757 first time I've seen this mentioned, it was supposedly a 737 made by Boeing. Boeing use Pratt and Whitney engines in the US not Rolls Royce so kills the RB211 off. As an aside I'd look up what an RB211 engine is and power outputs, etc. As for the Cessna comment, I'm assuming you think the Cessna only make small little four or five seater planes? They don't they make much bigger ones which a joy to fly to be honest, seat up to 200 soles I believe and have now sorted the DB series.
Stop listening to the lefty bullshit, anyone with basic coordination can fly a plane, if you can drive a car competently then you can fly a plane. Flying a plane into a building does however require a left wing orientated mindset, no fecking sane person would it but hey ho, tooth fairies, god, allah, big brother, etc, etc etc.
Firstly, GE is General Electric, Nantgarw is a town just outside of Cardiff where there is a large engine overall plant.... My mate does work there as a fitter and has done for about twenty years. You can see it's a 757 from the CCTV outage and the fact that the designated flight was a 757. Cessna was a sarcastic comment.... My god you're a little dull.. A 757 can take multiple configurations of engines...
As for the engine type read -
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forum ... ain/51696/To quote:
"I live in Connecticut, home of Pratt & Whitney, and I won't get into an us vs. them discussion.
The fact is, both engines have the same reliability. It comes down to cost and service agreements.
I'd say folks are proud to see the Pratt Eagle on the engines! Although RR has outsold the PW2000 overall, some of the largest 757 operators -- Delta, United and Northwest -- are P&W customers. American operates the RB211."
It was American Airlines Flight 77 that hit the Pentagon....
Also read this:
http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/co ... 0265.shtmlTo quote my mate "I know what the part is because I've stripped hundreds of them"
Change your name to Wally the Wombat...
Sat Sep 29, 2012 4:22 am
quote="Berwyn"]Trust me, I love a conspiracy, I'm one of the worst for them. But I don't think this is one. I think it was simply - nutters hijack planes and crash them in to big buildings. It was a really easy thing to do for them at the time. I think people struggle to give these nutters the credit for being able to launch such a simple but effective attack.
Yes I bet they did hide evidence and collect things up, took them away etc. But that doesn't mean it was an inside job.[/quote]
Problem with your concept is that the majority of the (nutters) are still alive and well, As for planes''' Even a 747 full of bombs woulnt have vaporised the towers plus the towers were built to withstand such scenario's, But Thurmate/mite that was found at the site will destroy steel anything, reason for the sites molten steel that burnt/smouldered for almost two months. people need to wake up, The Americans have had their constitutional rights all but withdrawn, even their political believes are no longer valid because who ever they vote into office is only a puppet for the businessman that really run things' and they dont care weather a Republican or Democrat is in office because they say whats what period. J F Kennedy was the last
president to try running the US without the businessmen element and look what happened to him. 9/11 was done by the same buisnesmen, inside job!
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