London Orient???

I thought there was a rule that ment you can't change a football clubs name? If there's no rule, or if there is and they get around it, I do worry what Vincent Van might start thinking. We know he's not afraid to make ridiculous changes

I thought there was a rule that ment you can't change a football clubs name? If there's no rule, or if there is and they get around it, I do worry what Vincent Van might start thinking. We know he's not afraid to make ridiculous changes

There is no rule about changing the name of a football club, MK Dons are a good example, but quite how Hearn thinks this is saleable to Orient fans is beyond me.


As for Cardiff City any attempt to rename the club is the tipping point for me on this rebrand regardless of how many millions VT throws at the club. Didn't SH have a wetdream about renaming us the Cardiff Celts or something but that never happened.

In the real world I cannot believe that VT would ever be stupid enough to even try.

Roll on next season and our newly promoted team playing in red with NO bluebird on the badge and maybe a new name ? Glamorgan Dragons or something

The are also supposed to be moving to the olympic stadium sharing with wet spam. big mistake if the do that

Roll on next season and our newly promoted team playing in red with NO bluebird on the badge and maybe a new name ? Glamorgan Dragons or something

I have no doubt that the bluebird will be ditched at end of season.

Tan cannot be trusted.

I'm with Castle blue on this 1. Change the name and that'll be it for me.

Clubs can not just change there name overnight chaps i have no idea why people are still on about this

I've been calling us Lucky Red Dragons FC for a while now (gallows humour, which most CCFC fans have had for a long time) and even have a few chants with that name.

I agree with other posters here, that I'll be off, if there's a name change. It will then absolutely be Vincent Tan's franchise/plaything and nothing I can identify with.

I've been calling us Lucky Red Dragons FC for a while now (gallows humour, which most CCFC fans have had for a long time) and even have a few chants with that name.

I agree with other posters here, that I'll be off, if there's a name change. It will then absolutely be Vincent Tan's franchise/plaything and nothing I can identify with.

So would 1000s of others including me but wouldnt these be replaced with newer fans if we got to the prem, eitherway they can not change the name, unless the club goes to the wall like rangers or its from fresh and that means league drops

I've been calling us Lucky Red Dragons FC for a while now (gallows humour, which most CCFC fans have had for a long time) and even have a few chants with that name.

I agree with other posters here, that I'll be off, if there's a name change. It will then absolutely be Vincent Tan's franchise/plaything and nothing I can identify with.

So would 1000s of others including me but wouldnt these be replaced with newer fans if we got to the prem, eitherway they can not change the name, unless the club goes to the wall like rangers or its from fresh and that means league drops

We'll have to wait and see. He's a very powerful red coated businessman. If we are replaced by newer fans, I couldn't care less, as long as I'm not made to feel like just a worthless consumer. Up to them if they want to support Lucky Red Dragons FC.

I'm with Castle blue on this 1. Change the name and that'll be it for me.

Yeah, I agree with that. The colour change was hard enough bare but the name change or a change in location is where I would draw the line.

Clubs can not just change there name overnight chaps i have no idea why people are still on about this

MK Dons

Clubs can change their name but they have to have permission from the football league first, orient changed their name to leyton orient that's one example

for orient, i think it might be a good thing.

London Orient, in a massive stadium, might bring in some investment, and lets be honest, they are only one promotion away from being in a big league.


for them, its not the worst idea ive ever heard.



for Cardiff, there is clearly no point in a name change

Said it three times now he can not change our name ccfc, unless we go to the wall and he buys us back like a rangers case or we start a fresh like MK dons who climbed the leagues, its not rocket science but there the rules thank f**k.

for orient, i think it might be a good thing.

London Orient, in a massive stadium, might bring in some investment, and lets be honest, they are only one promotion away from being in a big league.


for them, its not the worst idea ive ever heard.



for Cardiff, there is clearly no point in a name change

What if tan said a name change would bring in more investment from the Far East what's the difference, personally I couldn't see any benefit from a colour change

for orient, i think it might be a good thing.

London Orient, in a massive stadium, might bring in some investment, and lets be honest, they are only one promotion away from being in a big league.


for them, its not the worst idea ive ever heard.



for Cardiff, there is clearly no point in a name change

What if tan said a name change would bring in more investment from the Far East what's the difference, personally I couldn't see any benefit from a colour change

but marketing Leyton orient as the club of london has a large amount of potential to bring in investement, especially if they are already playing in an 80,000 seater stadium.

for cardiff its different, we are owned by someone worth almost 1bn, changing our name isnt going to do anything to attact investment.

Nothing wrong with Cardiff City Dragons FC IMO. Rather be a dragon than a swan.

Said it three times now he can not change our name ccfc, unless we go to the wall and he buys us back like a rangers case or we start a fresh like MK dons who climbed the leagues, its not rocket science but there the rules thank f**k.

MK Dons didn't "climb the leagues" at all.

They simply changed Wimbledon's name and kept their position on the league pyramid.

Nothing wrong with Cardiff City Dragons FC IMO. Rather be a dragon than a swan.

its just silly though, if they wanted to change the nickname then maybe, but "cardiff city dragons fc" as a name is just pointless

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Wimbledon F.C.: Norwegian owners moved the club from South London to Milton Keynes, a town more than 60 miles (100 km) away and one of the few large towns (due to its status as a new town constructed in 1967) without a league football team. For doing so, they were widely criticised by the English footballing community, with many derisively referring to the club as "Franchise F.C." (as this move was seen as echoing North American norms). London fans created a new local team, AFC Wimbledon; Wimbledon F.C. went into administration, was bought out of administration and subsequently relaunched with a new name, Milton Keynes Dons F.C. Twelve years before the move to Milton Keynes, they had already left their London borough of Merton home for Selhurst Park in (the London borough of) Croydon. Although this was a supposedly temporary move, it had lasted 12 years by the time of their migration.
Meadowbank Thistle, a struggling Edinburgh club controversially relocated in 1995 to the new town of Livingston, 19 miles away. It changed its name to Livingston F.C., its fortunes improved and it won the Scottish League Cup in 2004.
Clyde F.C. moved from Shawfield Stadium (near Rutherglen in the south east of Glasgow) to the new town of Cumbernauld in 1994. They had been evicted from Shawfield in 1986. By 1990, Clyde secured an agreement to build a home of their own in the new town of Cumbernauld, which had grown in population and was by 1990 one of the larger settlements in Scotland without senior football. They were homeless from 1986 until Broadwood Stadium was built in Cumbernauld in 1994. The move allowed Clyde to continue as a semi-professional club.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relocation ... orts_teams

Said it three times now he can not change our name ccfc, unless we go to the wall and he buys us back like a rangers case or we start a fresh like MK dons who climbed the leagues, its not rocket science but there the rules thank f**k.

Well it will be interesting to see if leyton orient do try to name change because they have done it before and they hadn't gone bust or were a newco

Said it three times now he can not change our name ccfc, unless we go to the wall and he buys us back like a rangers case or we start a fresh like MK dons who climbed the leagues, its not rocket science but there the rules thank f**k.

MK Dons didn't "climb the leagues" at all.

They simply changed Wimbledon's name and kept their position on the league pyramid.

Yes because wimbledon went under hence the rangers case, maybe read what i put and they have climbed the leagues look where they was when wimbledon went under and they took over under the new name

You claim that MK Dons CLIMBED THE LEAGUES which is untrue. They retained the league position of Wimbledon.

So you were incorrect Please read posts properly.

Nottingham Forest have long played outside of the Forest district of Nottingham and now reside in West Bridgford, just outside Nottingham's city limits, although they retain a Nottingham postal address. Interestingly, Notts County's Meadow Lane ground is within the city boundary despite their county name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relocation ... orts_teams

Ever been to either the City Ground or Meadow lane Dazz because if you had been to either you would know they are situated either side of the River Trent in Nottingham city centre. They are so close that if your sat in one ground you can see the other, you can also see Trent Bridge from either ground.

No real surprise that Forest have a Nottingham postal address because their grounds are in the city centre.

You claim that MK Dons CLIMBED THE LEAGUES which is untrue. They retained the league position of Wimbledon.

So you were incorrect Please read posts properly.

They have climbed two leagus since they took over, you said they havent

You claim that MK Dons CLIMBED THE LEAGUES which is untrue. They retained the league position of Wimbledon.

So you were incorrect Please read posts properly.

They have climbed two leagus since they took over, you said they havent

Incorrect. They were formed in 2004 in League 1. They got relegated in their 2nd season and were promoted back into League 1 in 07/08. They remain in League 1 this season.

Also the MK Dons lost the right to be named F.a cup winners after changing name and moving to Mk. A.F.C Wimbledon are listed as the fa cup winners .

Nottingham Forest have long played outside of the Forest district of Nottingham and now reside in West Bridgford, just outside Nottingham's city limits, although they retain a Nottingham postal address. Interestingly, Notts County's Meadow Lane ground is within the city boundary despite their county name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relocation ... orts_teams

Ever been to either the City Ground or Meadow lane Dazz because if you had been to either you would know they are situated either side of the River Trent in Nottingham city centre. They are so close that if your sat in one ground you can see the other, you can also see Trent Bridge from either ground.

No real surprise that Forest have a Nottingham postal address because their grounds are in the city centre.
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Yeah been to both,you are right they are very close.

orient changed their name in 1987 after a campaign by the fans, they were not a newco
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