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Re: Today: Football lads on their way

Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:28 pm

Ninianman wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Football lads Standing around Sir Winston Churchill’s Statue ( sadly boxed in due to last weeks racists )

Someone should have painted “I can’t breathe on winstons box”

Oooh that's very good.
:lol:

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:32 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Is not racist ? Tell.you what it is coward carrying knives



These people carry knives routinely. After dark there could be firearms about. Be lucky to get through the night without fatalities but hope I'm wrong. London is becoming terrible place to live.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way

Sat Jun 13, 2020 8:53 pm

Ninianman wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Football lads Standing around Sir Winston Churchill’s Statue ( sadly boxed in due to last weeks racists )

Someone should have painted “I can’t breathe on winstons box”



Your low life scum

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:31 pm

Panzermouse wrote:current Western governments are predominantly center right


Um, no they're not.

I really wish you wouldn't just put these blanket false statements out to make yourself sound clever. It really is slightly annoying habit you know.

Anyway, lets shoot this statement down shall we...

So depending on your definition of 'western'. If you're talking western Europe then the majority of parties are left/right coalitions (Austria, Belgium, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Switzerland) with the exceptions being us and the Czechs on the right and France, Germany and Ireland on the left.

If we broaden it out to include the Nordics then you can add Norway to the right and the rest of the Vikings (Denmark, Sweden, Iceland, Finland) to the left.

If we are looking at the developed west then we will would need to include the US on the right and Canada on the left.

If the definition of the West is to also incorporate the anglosphere then we need to add the Australisian nations in there which again is one apiece with Australia being right and the kiwis being left.

So a total from that lot would be 5 on the right. 14 on the left and 5 left/right coalitions.


Not that this has anything to do with Cultural marxism mind you. I'd look into Derrida and Fouceau if you want to brush up on that whole can of worms.

:thumbup:

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:33 pm

Police have been attacked by demonstrators in central London, where thousands gathered despite warnings to avoid protests.

Groups including some far-right activists congregated in the capital, claiming they were protecting statues from anti-racism activists.

Boris Johnson said "racist thuggery has no place on our streets" after officers were seen being punched and kicked.

Some peaceful anti-racism protests also took place in London and across the UK.

The Met Police had placed restrictions on several groups intending to protest, including having to finish at 17:00 BST, following violent scenes last weekend.

However, pockets of protesters remained on the streets of central London after the official cut-off.
More than 100 people were arrested during the protests in the capital, Scotland Yard said, for offences including violent disorder, assault on police and possession of an offensive weapon.

Six police officers also suffered minor injuries in the violent clashes, a Met Police statement added.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson tweeted: "Racist thuggery has no place on our streets. Anyone attacking the police will be met with full force of the law.

"These marches and protests have been subverted by violence and breach current guidelines. Racism has no part in the UK and we must work together to make that a reality."

A man who was part of the protest was pictured in Parliament Square urinating next to the memorial of PC Keith Palmer - the police officer killed in the Westminster terror attack in 2017.

Home Secretary Priti Patel said the "desecration" of the memorial was "utterly shameful".

Re: Today: Football lads on their way

Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:38 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Ninianman wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Football lads Standing around Sir Winston Churchill’s Statue ( sadly boxed in due to last weeks racists )

Someone should have painted “I can’t breathe on winstons box”



Your low life scum


You know what Annis - I can see where your coming from and yes perhaps it is a bit close to the mark/bad taste.

I'll be honest I found it funny without thinking it fully through but can totally see where you are coming from.

But the one thing I absolutely take my hat off to you for is that the comment obviously upset you based on your response but you let it stay up and just voiced your strong opinion.

Given that you ultimately have the power to pull a comment you don't like down as this is your property I genuinely admire the fact that you didn't and instead responded.

There are a lot of people in the media who could do well to take the same approach rather than shutting discussions down because they don't like what was said.

Fair play to you for being a man of principal mate. Massive, massive respect for that. :thumbup:

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 9:46 pm

Trevor the tracksuit

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:02 pm

You got to be fair there's some ugly bastards on the whiteside
today They haven't aged well.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:16 pm

skidemin wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:Here you go, justify this.

https://twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/ ... 15810?s=21



bit rich coming from someone that's spent a week trying to justify riots ..

you can not justify that behaviour mate...…...BUT YOU HAVE :?


Post exactly where I have tried to justify any riots.

You won’t be able to because I haven’t.

As I said scum who got violent last week, scum today but you seem to think today is ok.

You’re wrong on both counts.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:20 pm

piledriver64 wrote:
skidemin wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:Here you go, justify this.

https://twitter.com/mrdanwalker/status/ ... 15810?s=21



bit rich coming from someone that's spent a week trying to justify riots ..

you can not justify that behaviour mate...…...BUT YOU HAVE :?


Post exactly where I have tried to justify any riots.

You won’t be able to because I haven’t.

As I said scum who got violent last week, scum today but you seem to think today is ok.

You’re wrong on both counts.



good post...wrongfully accuse me of doing something...then do what you've accused me of.....all lives matter not just the one that suits your agenda bud ……..and hypocrites don't matter...

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:27 pm

As I said, find the post where I have tried to justify the riot last week.

I’m waiting.

You can’t because it didn’t happen, stop the bulls&£t.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:31 pm

Are people on here seriously defending this ? If so I give up.

https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1 ... 94048?s=21

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:41 pm

piledriver64 wrote:As I said, find the post where I have tried to justify the riot last week.

I’m waiting.

You can’t because it didn’t happen, stop the bulls&£t.




find it ?..you haven't stopped defending BLM all week...and abracadabra your next post is hypocritical...

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:49 pm

piledriver64 wrote:Are people on here seriously defending this ? If so I give up.

https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1 ... 94048?s=21

If you are inferring these are Nazi salutes (as the twitter thread you have linked to is) then you are just stirring up racial tensions further without justification which is foolish and dangerous path to tread.

They are clearly chanting En ger land and raising their hands as part of the chant exactly the same as we do when we chant bluebirds.

If that's not your intention and it is pointing out confrontation with police then it is a different conversation.

But the tone of the thread you linked to is definitely the former and it is ill formed judgements like this that lie at the heart of the problem and are only going to make things worse.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 10:50 pm

piledriver64 wrote:Are people on here seriously defending this ? If so I give up.

https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1 ... 94048?s=21



defending what ?
people heading for the cenotaph and finding a fck off barrier preventing them, which wasn't but should have , been there last week ?
or people with their arms in the air singing Enger land..?

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:00 pm

I'm coming to the conclusion we need to arm the police. May make people in these situations think twice before they attack them with little immediate reaction. In addition we have a major issue with knife and gun crime in some communities . In London the police are losing control of the streets in some areas.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:05 pm

epping blue wrote:I'm coming to the conclusion we need to arm the police. May make people in these situations think twice before they attack them with little immediate reaction. In addition we have a major issue with knife and gun crime in some communities . In London the police are losing control of the streets in some areas.



ive thought all week there would be people killed today...so far none and I hope it remains that way..
said on another thread protesting is a right, for all causes.. but having said that and having seen what had happened in the USA our government should have shut that down immediately last week using covid as an excuse and banned and enforced the ban of mass gatherings until covid rules allowed them again... most of this was avoidable...

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 7:59 am

skidemin wrote:
piledriver64 wrote:As I said, find the post where I have tried to justify the riot last week.

I’m waiting.

You can’t because it didn’t happen, stop the bulls&£t.




find it ?..you haven't stopped defending BLM all week...and abracadabra your next post is hypocritical...


I ask again for the final time.

Show me where I have defended the violence of last weekend.

You cannot because I did not defend the violence.

Don’t fabricate something just to suit your actions.

I defend the right of anyone to demonstrate peacefully.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:55 am

piledriver64 wrote:Are people on here seriously defending this ? If so I give up.

https://twitter.com/dansabbagh/status/1 ... 94048?s=21


There are many on the board who don't just defend it, they celebrate it. But at least some Welsh football supporters have enhanced their reputation today. Wrexham have played a blinder. The "Cardiff Lads" who stood with English clubs are wankers and they don't do it in my name. I would honestly rather stand with the Wrexham boys, which is why the togetherness of following Wales is these days is stronger than following City.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 8:55 am

Jock wrote:
Panzermouse wrote:
Jock wrote:
Norris ninian wrote:It's a sad day when cardiff fans openly condone a bunch of tossers bottling the police whilst chanting En ger land

Sad day when every institution in this country is under threat from cultural Marxist dregs, sad day when the death of a violent criminal, High on crystal meth and Fentynol, 4,000 miles away, puts race relations back 50 years in this country. Aye sad day mate.


Oh no! not cultural Marxism again Jock!
If cultural Marxism actually existed and was flourishing explain why global corporate capitalism is booming and why current Western governments are predominantly center right? Anders Breivik was an exponent of the cultural Marxism theory and look how rational his thinking was. Mass child murder no less.
Anyway, over to you for an explanation.

Common Purpose driven, they are a social cancer.


Ha ha. "Common purpose driven" what is that supposed to mean Jock?. It's not an explanation by any means. You can't give me an explanation can you!
Why? Because you know this Cultural Marxism is nonsense and doesn't exist. It's a conspiracy theory that has no traction outside of far right politics.
You just spout one line phrases with no idea of how to support your claims when challenged.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:15 am

Because global capitalism makes money, the left, apart from the rare exception, does not. They just talk about spending it. It’s why they’re out of power.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:15 am

ealing_ayatollah wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Ninianman wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Football lads Standing around Sir Winston Churchill’s Statue ( sadly boxed in due to last weeks racists )

Someone should have painted “I can’t breathe on winstons box”



Your low life scum


You know what Annis - I can see where your coming from and yes perhaps it is a bit close to the mark/bad taste.

I'll be honest I found it funny without thinking it fully through but can totally see where you are coming from.

But the one thing I absolutely take my hat off to you for is that the comment obviously upset you based on your response but you let it stay up and just voiced your strong opinion.

Given that you ultimately have the power to pull a comment you don't like down as this is your property I genuinely admire the fact that you didn't and instead responded.

There are a lot of people in the media who could do well to take the same approach rather than shutting discussions down because they don't like what was said.

Fair play to you for being a man of principal mate. Massive, massive respect for that. :thumbup:



Thank you , but yes that comment got to me and hurts as I have strong beliefs regarding Britain and the wars and I belief in our history and I fully support All our soldiers and leaders from those times as they fought and stood up for our country.
Plus even if you don’t agree you can’t suddenly pretend it never happened.

I left it there so others can see how low some go.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:18 am

Forever Blue wrote:It was very peaceful until the police showed different tactics to the racists groups last week and treated todays demonstrators with a heavy handed approach .

59 police injured last Saturday, be interesting what they say about todays.

Personally I wanted both protests to go if peaceful , last week they were treated with kid gloves.

This week they came to make a stance and show pride


They went looking for a fight because they can't get it at football any more. So did Welsh boys from Wrexham but at least they were on the right side.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:25 am

The vast majority are good, humble and decent .
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Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:27 am

Panzermouse wrote:
Jock wrote:
Panzermouse wrote:
Jock wrote:
Norris ninian wrote:It's a sad day when cardiff fans openly condone a bunch of tossers bottling the police whilst chanting En ger land

Sad day when every institution in this country is under threat from cultural Marxist dregs, sad day when the death of a violent criminal, High on crystal meth and Fentynol, 4,000 miles away, puts race relations back 50 years in this country. Aye sad day mate.


Oh no! not cultural Marxism again Jock!
If cultural Marxism actually existed and was flourishing explain why global corporate capitalism is booming and why current Western governments are predominantly center right? Anders Breivik was an exponent of the cultural Marxism theory and look how rational his thinking was. Mass child murder no less.
Anyway, over to you for an explanation.

Common Purpose driven, they are a social cancer.


Ha ha. "Common purpose driven" what is that supposed to mean Jock?. It's not an explanation by any means. You can't give me an explanation can you!
Why? Because you know this Cultural Marxism is nonsense and doesn't exist. It's a conspiracy theory that has no traction outside of far right politics.
You just spout one line phrases with no idea of how to support your claims when challenged.

So your calling me Far Right?
Common Purpose are successfully getting their people (who tick the right boxes) into positions of influence and power. You’re probably one of the most blinkered close minded people I’ve ever encountered, almost a parody of a Leftist fekkwit. In a country that splits approx 50/50 Conservative/Labour or Left/right how many of our educators are on the right? Surveys show 90% of British educators vote for Leftwing Parties, that’s Common Purpose at work right there, don’t subscribe to the hive, mentality your career is going nowhere. As the famous German Socialist said “Control the youth, control the future.
I said earlier Fascism and Communism are two cheeks of the same arse and asked you earlier to explain the difference between Stalins USSR and what Mussolini proposed for Italy, you ducked it. Probably because you actually believe anyone who disagrees with your politics is extreme right.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:27 am

Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It was very peaceful until the police showed different tactics to the racists groups last week and treated todays demonstrators with a heavy handed approach .

59 police injured last Saturday, be interesting what they say about todays.

Personally I wanted both protests to go if peaceful , last week they were treated with kid gloves.

This week they came to make a stance and show pride


They went looking for a fight because they can't get it at football any more. So did Welsh boys from Wrexham but at least they were on the right side.



This I will totally dispute with you , the majority went to show their support for our history.

I could say exactly the same about BLM, but I don’t see things like you do one sided, they also had a minority that chose to go there to just fight, but not the majority.

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:29 am

Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It was very peaceful until the police showed different tactics to the racists groups last week and treated todays demonstrators with a heavy handed approach .

59 police injured last Saturday, be interesting what they say about todays.

Personally I wanted both protests to go if peaceful , last week they were treated with kid gloves.

This week they came to make a stance and show pride


They went looking for a fight because they can't get it at football any more. So did Welsh boys from Wrexham but at least they were on the right side.

And what side is that?

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:35 am

Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It was very peaceful until the police showed different tactics to the racists groups last week and treated todays demonstrators with a heavy handed approach .

59 police injured last Saturday, be interesting what they say about todays.

Personally I wanted both protests to go if peaceful , last week they were treated with kid gloves.

This week they came to make a stance and show pride


They went looking for a fight because they can't get it at football any more. So did Welsh boys from Wrexham but at least they were on the right side.

And what side is that?


Work it out

Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:38 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It was very peaceful until the police showed different tactics to the racists groups last week and treated todays demonstrators with a heavy handed approach .

59 police injured last Saturday, be interesting what they say about todays.

Personally I wanted both protests to go if peaceful , last week they were treated with kid gloves.

This week they came to make a stance and show pride


They went looking for a fight because they can't get it at football any more. So did Welsh boys from Wrexham but at least they were on the right side.



This I will totally dispute with you , the majority went to show their support for our history.



I could say exactly the same about BLM, but I don’t see things like you do one sided, they also had a minority that chose to go there to just fight, but not the majority.
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Re: Today: Football lads on their way & some already there

Sun Jun 14, 2020 9:46 am

Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
Jock wrote:
Costa Coffee Crew wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:It was very peaceful until the police showed different tactics to the racists groups last week and treated todays demonstrators with a heavy handed approach .

59 police injured last Saturday, be interesting what they say about todays.

Personally I wanted both protests to go if peaceful , last week they were treated with kid gloves.

This week they came to make a stance and show pride


They went looking for a fight because they can't get it at football any more. So did Welsh boys from Wrexham but at least they were on the right side.

And what side is that?


Work it out

Why don’t you explain.