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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:35 am

So Israel and the Nazi IDF

Free 4 hostages but kill 233 Palestinians and injured 400 plus to get them Free, that’s a total
Of 7 in 8 months.

Yet when they have done deals peacefully in the last 8 months 107 hostages were freed, No one killed.

How about the 8,990 Palestinian hostages being held in Israel and being starved and tortured?
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Sun Jun 09, 2024 12:11 pm

Hamas kept 4 alive

And still many healthy and will be returned all of them if Nazi IDF release just under 9,000 Palestinian Hostages

Israel killed 41
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:34 pm

While Israel holds and tortured nearly 9,000 Palestinian hostages


So i wanna understand where are the “tortured” “raped” israeli hostages?

Noa, Shlomi, Almog and Andrey; they are perfectly healthy, well fed, using their phones and celebrating with their families.

For 8 months israelis were parroting the same propaganda, where is it
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:38 pm

Israelis now will be working on their next move to either keep away the released hostages from talking to the media or training them how to lie about their treatment under captivity if they are ready to lie. Remember how Israeli trained another hostage named Amit Soussana who changed her testimony months after her first recounts. Similarly it is going to happen with these released hostages.


This is happening now in Gaza :cry:
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:56 pm

Remember when Israel claimed she was raped?

She got chubbier in custody under a food siege. How is that even possible
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:00 pm

The terrorist Nao Argamani was a member of the IDF , a legitimate prisoner of war, not a 'hostage'.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:52 pm

They're boasting they've got the most moral army in the world avoiding civilian deaths? And once again They're saying we will investigate but said that for past 7 months and world is waiting for what they found in any of the inquiries! More problems though for Netanyahu as defence minister as resigned leaving him with coalition party that wants Israel to take all the land in gaza.... usa hates this party so be interesting what they do?

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:47 am

pembroke allan wrote:They're boasting they've got the most moral army in the world avoiding civilian deaths? And once again They're saying we will investigate but said that for past 7 months and world is waiting for what they found in any of the inquiries! More problems though for Netanyahu as defence minister as resigned leaving him with coalition party that wants Israel to take all the land in gaza.... usa hates this party so be interesting what they do?



Yes Allan,

Unbelievable they have probably got the worst army behaviour wise since the Nazi’s and the World is beginning to see the truth.
They also investigate themselves and never find a problem with their atrociousities.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:48 am

TOP: Noa Argamani held by Hamas

BOTTOM: Bassem Tamimi held by Israel

Both were held for 8 months. Who was treated better?

And Noa, and she is an IDF soldier who was dancing on dead Palestinian graves on videos until they caught her.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:23 am

Israeli Haaretz reports that former Israeli prisoner, Agam Goldstein-Almog, who was released in the exchange deal with the resistance, has been recieving hateful comments from Israelis following interviews she gave, where she described the decent treatment from resistance fighters and how well she was looked after.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:24 am

In Nazi Israeli Prisons they Torture and starve their hostages

Now 9,000 Palestinian Hostages in Israel, yet the NO UK & USA News say Nothing:


The difference is clear.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:20 am

BREAKING: Bassem Tamimi, Ahed Tamimi’s father, was just released from israeli prison after being kidnapped and detained since the beginning of the Al-Aqsa flood (more than 8 months).

NO charges:
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Mon Jun 10, 2024 4:34 pm

BREAKING: ISRAELI CAPTIVE NOA ARGAMANI STATEMENT TODAY BACKS THE PREVIOUS STATEMENT PROVIDED BY HER UNDER HAMAS CAPTIVITY!

Based on the statement of Noa from Yedioth, this confirms what Hamas said previously and confirms that the israeli captives were not forced to say what they said!

Al-Qassam Brigades released a video on the 15th of January 2024 confirming that captive Israeli soldier Noa Argaman is alive, and Al-Qassam soldiers saved her life along with two other Israeli soldier captives after Israeli forces targeted them twice in airstrikes.

The contentious Israeli strikes resulted in the killing of two captive Israeli soldiers, and she was the only one who remained alive.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:28 am

Isreal’s IDF put out photos daily of their torture’s and brutality to the Palestinians




An Israeli soldier shared images depicting the capture of numerous Palestinians in Gaza.

The photos included elderly individuals, young children, and a blindfolded double amputee who was made to move on his knee stumps.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:04 am

SO USA & UK FINALLY BACK A CEASEFIRE & A FULL HOSTAGE EXCHANGE:

Guess what Israel & Nazi IDF continue today Slaughtering Innocent Palestinians :( :( :(
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:10 pm

Annis they are backing ceasefire but they are saying if fails its hamas fault? But blinken says Israel have agreed to it but nothing official from isreal to say they have! because they've put their own plan to usa and guess what no one knows what plan is because they won't share their plan with anyone simply because Netanyahu cant agree to usa plan as the ultra right wing will bring him down now that moderates have resigned from cabinet...... once again usa being a poodle for Netanyahu

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:14 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Annis they are backing ceasefire but they are saying if fails its hamas fault? But blinken says Israel have agreed to it but nothing official from isreal to say they have! because they've put their own plan to usa and guess what no one knows what plan is because they won't share their plan with anyone simply because Netanyahu cant agree to usa plan as the ultra right wing will bring him down now that moderates have resigned from cabinet...... once again usa being a poodle for Netanyahu



Blinken is once again totally lying as Hamas have and had agreed straight away, they have been virtually begging for a Ceasefire, it’s Israel who don’t want it as they want to continue to wipe out Gaza.

Netanyahu 100% does not want peace.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:50 pm

THIS DIDN’T START OCTOBER 7th!!!
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Wed Jun 12, 2024 7:31 am

There's this lie going around that Hamas killed "1200" Israeli civilians on Oct 7th.

WRONG.

First of all 400 of them were armed militants.

Second of all most of the civilians were killed by Israeli apache helicopters and tanks themselves in a practice known as the Hannibal directive where israel intentionally kills its own prisoners,

Of the 1200 civilians that died only 14 were underage, all of whom were killed by Israeli tanks in the kibbutz be'eri. Compare that to Gaza where 16,000 children were killed.

16,000 children.



So we have this straight, NO killing of Civilians on either side is right, but the truth is Israel has been killing Palestinian Civilians since 1948 .
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:34 pm

BREAKING NEWS: The UN has concluded in its first investigation into October 7th that there is NO proof of any rape, let alone "mass rape," or that it was "ordered by Hamas."

ISRAEL LIED!
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Wed Jun 12, 2024 10:37 pm

You don’t accidentally kill over 15,000 children…

You don’t accidentally target refugee camps…


You don’t accidentally kill over 100 journalists and over 250 aid workers…


You don’t accidentally attack 35 hospitals…


You don’t accidentally destroy over 350,000 houses…

You don’t accidentally displace 2 million people…

THIS IS A TARGETED GENOCIDE..
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:07 am

UN ACCUSES ISRAEL OF “EXTERMINATION” OF PALESTINIANS

A United Nations Commission of Inquiry has concluded that Israel has committed crimes against humanity during the war in Gaza.

“The crimes against humanity of extermination; murder; gender persecution targeting Palestinian men and boys; forcible transfer; and torture and inhuman and cruel treatment were committed.”

The probe also accuses several Palestinian groups of committing “war crimes” since the war in Gaza began.

Israel has rejected the findings, accusing the UN Commission of Inquiry of long-standing “systematic anti-Israeli discrimination.”

Source: Times of Israel
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:09 am

UN ACCUSES ISRAEL OF “EXTERMINATION” OF PALESTINIANS

A United Nations Commission of Inquiry has concluded that Israel has committed crimes against humanity during the war in Gaza.

“The crimes against humanity of extermination; murder; gender persecution targeting Palestinian men and boys; forcible transfer; and torture and inhuman and cruel treatment were committed.”

The probe also accuses several Palestinian groups of committing “war crimes” since the war in Gaza began.

Israel has rejected the findings, accusing the UN Commission of Inquiry of long-standing “systematic anti-Israeli discrimination.”

Source: Times of Israel






This is not a detainment camp in World War II, nor a prison in the Holocaust, this is Gaza in 2024. A chilling reminder that history repeats.

A holocaust is happening right before our eyes and the world is silent.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:26 am

Israel killed Israelis, confirms new 7 October documentary


Asa Winstanley

Rights and Accountability



Military expert Chris Cobb-Smith says that much of the destruction caused to Israeli homes on 7 October could not have been done by Hamas. AJI
A new documentary by Al Jazeera’s investigative unit has found that many of the most horrific Israeli stories about the Palestinian military assault that began on 7 October were untrue.

“Misinformation has been used, and sometimes deliberate disinformation has been used by official spokespersons,” says one commentator quoted in the documentary, October 7.

The film was viewed by The Electronic Intifada ahead of its first broadcast. It was released online the week after this article was initially published.

Although now posted to YouTube, the platform has age-restricted the film. This means a YouTube account is required to click through and view the video embedded below. But the full film can also be viewed on Al Jazeera’s website without any account.




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Military expert Chris Cobb-Smith says that much of the destruction caused to Israeli homes on 7 October could not have been done by Hamas. AJI
A new documentary by Al Jazeera’s investigative unit has found that many of the most horrific Israeli stories about the Palestinian military assault that began on 7 October were untrue.

“Misinformation has been used, and sometimes deliberate disinformation has been used by official spokespersons,” says one commentator quoted in the documentary, October 7.

The film was viewed by The Electronic Intifada ahead of its first broadcast. It was released online the week after this article was initially published.

Although now posted to YouTube, the platform has age-restricted the film. This means a YouTube account is required to click through and view the video embedded below. But the full film can also be viewed on Al Jazeera’s website without any account.


Although not the comprehensive investigation by international experts that many have called for, the documentary does confirm much of the reporting done about 7 October by a small group of independent journalists, who have debunked Israeli atrocity propaganda, at the cost of being smeared and attacked by corporate media.
The Electronic Intifada, The Grayzone, Mondoweiss and The Cradle have all found that many – if not most – of the 1,154 Israelis the government claims were killed by Palestinians were actually killed by Israel itself.

The documentary confirms The Electronic Intifada’s report from January that at midday on 7 October the Israeli army invoked the Hannibal Directive.

As explained in the documentary by Israeli historian Uri Bar-Joseph, “The Hannibal Directive is an informal protocol that says, we prefer that the soldier be killed than taken alive.”

Mass Hannibal
As The Electronic Intifada reported in December, one Israeli air force colonel even described 7 October as a “mass Hannibal.” In its reactivated form, the doctrine seems to have been extended from soldiers to any Israelis, including civilians.

Al Jazeera’s investigative unit carried out a forensic analysis, examining seven hours of footage, much of it taken from the head cameras of dead Hamas fighters. It reviewed the testimonies of hundreds of survivors and compiled a comprehensive list of victims.

The investigation concludes that at least 27 of the Israeli prisoners in Palestinian captivity “died somewhere between their home and the Gaza fence in circumstances that have not been explained.”

It also finds that at least another 18 of the 782 Israeli and foreign civilians Israel says were killed in the assault were killed by Israeli ground troops.

While not reaching a definitive conclusion as to how many of the dead civilians were killed by Israel itself, it does say that, “A number of other bodies” that were recovered from beneath rubble were of those “who died in circumstances that are unclear.”



It does also mention the Israeli press reporting – as revealed in English by The Electronic Intifada in January – that 70 vehicles driven by Palestinian fighters returning to Gaza were blown up by Israeli helicopter gunships, drones or tanks.
These numbers should therefore be taken as a bare minimum in the absence of a comprehensive, credible and independent investigation of the events of 7 October.

It is likely given the documented use by Israel of heavy weapons such as tanks and combat helicopters on a large scale that the number of Israelis killed by their own forces is much higher.

Israel has however refused to allow an independent United Nations team to enter the country to carry out just such an investigation.

“No way” done by Hamas
The investigative unit also collected footage from the kibbutzim – the Israeli settlements close to the boundary with Gaza that were assaulted by Hamas starting on 7 October.

The footage was of both the assault on the settlements as well as of the aftermath, as widely reported by the Israeli and international media.

Al Jazeera showed this footage to a military expert, former British artillery officer Chris Cobb-Smith.

Cobb-Smith concluded that much of the damage could not have been done by Hamas.

“All the footage I’ve seen of the Hamas assault across the border across the fence into the [kibbutzim], they’re pretty much only armed with light weapons,” he says in the documentary. “Rocket propelled grenades and personal sidearms.”

Shown footage from Kibbutz Be’eri and Kibbutz Kfar Azza, he said that such “catastrophic structural damage” was “clearly not caused by a structural collapse from a fire” and would have been “caused by some sort of heavy weapons system during combat. This catastrophic structural damage to many of these buildings, this can only have happened by heavy weapon systems being used against the kibbutz itself.”





Shown images of two holes in the wall of a kibbutz house, “I would say probably by some sort of heavy weapon fired against the house, most probably a tank,” he explained that “there’s no way an RPG would make that sort of damage.”
The documentary also supports some of The Electronic Intifada’s debunking of the Israeli government’s discredited “mass rape” atrocity propaganda.

It notes that the recent UN report on the issue stated that the visual evidence it gathered provided “no tangible indications of rape” and says that this was “a conclusion supported by the [Al Jazeera Investigative] Unit’s own analysis of footage and photographs.”

The report, led by Pramila Patten, helped Israel and The New York Times launder its atrocity propaganda through the UN system.

But contrary to much media spin, the Patten report further exposes the claims of systematic sexual violence as a fraud.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Jun 13, 2024 6:39 am

BREAKING| Euro-Med Human Rights Monitor says that
the Israeli occupation army has forcibly injected Palestinian detainees, who were kidnapped during the war on Gaza, with unknown substances, leaving scars and distinctive marks on their bodies.

It added that Israel practices killing, rape, and other forms of sexual violence and torture against detainees and prisoners.

"Israel continues to commit violent acts of torture, inhuman, and degrading treatment against thousands of Palestinian civilians in a systematic manner, who have been detained as part of the genocide", it added.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:39 am

Summary: Israel lied yet again:
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:49 am

As I always said:


BREAKING: UN finds Israel killed its own people on Oct 7.

Atleast 14 is the minimum but even the Israelis admit its in the hundreds
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Jun 14, 2024 7:42 am

IDF terror bitch takes photo with Palestinian civilian hostage. These are the scum they want you to think of as little girls!
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Jun 14, 2024 4:19 pm

An Israeli terrorist proudly posted a photo to his Instagram page with civilians he KIDNAPPED next to him
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Sun Jun 16, 2024 6:47 am

Never Forget what Israeli ,Have done and still come to this day
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