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Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:19 pm

kenfighillblue wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:
kenfighillblue wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:The strange thing is, he will probably make more money now, buy doing interviews, talkshows ect, than he ever did when he was wining bike races :lol:

Apparently there were clauses in some of his sponsorship deals about drugs, their also talking about him repaying all prize monies and fraud, bad for cycling and bad for sport.

Me personally think, what he was involved in, amounts to organised crime, and should be stipped of all his assets, or atleast most of them, just like they do with organised crime bosses when they are prosecuted under that "r.i.c.o" act. As it is now, with him still being able to rake in millions, I can't see how it would be any kind of deterrent for any up and coming sportsman thinking about cheating his way to the top

He's manipulated every thing he's ever touched, he's got to be punished surely, as you say what message does it send to up and coming sports people.


Yet you claim Chopra's just as bad as him. :lol:

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:30 pm

I believe he was world champion before the cancer, it remains to be seen if he was on the gear then, but he was a bull of a rider in them days, like Mark Cavendish. But after the cancer treatment he lost so much weight he could do the grand tours, like Wiggins.

I read his books, believed the story, found him inspirational. To think it was all down to a concoction of drugs is soul destroying - He will never rebounds from this........

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:31 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
kenfighillblue wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:
kenfighillblue wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:The strange thing is, he will probably make more money now, buy doing interviews, talkshows ect, than he ever did when he was wining bike races :lol:

Apparently there were clauses in some of his sponsorship deals about drugs, their also talking about him repaying all prize monies and fraud, bad for cycling and bad for sport.

Me personally think, what he was involved in, amounts to organised crime, and should be stipped of all his assets, or atleast most of them, just like they do with organised crime bosses when they are prosecuted under that "r.i.c.o" act. As it is now, with him still being able to rake in millions, I can't see how it would be any kind of deterrent for any up and coming sportsman thinking about cheating his way to the top

He's manipulated every thing he's ever touched, he's got to be punished surely, as you say what message does it send to up and coming sports people.


Yet you claim Chopra's just as bad as him. :lol:

If you read my reply to polo, you will see I thought chops had done a lot worse than he had, all the way through this post you have tried to ridicule me, you only read what you want to see, are you trying to upset me, do you think buy outing someone down it makes you bigger, I can understand why lots of people have stopped posting now,

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:37 pm

kenfighillblue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
kenfighillblue wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:
kenfighillblue wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:The strange thing is, he will probably make more money now, buy doing interviews, talkshows ect, than he ever did when he was wining bike races :lol:

Apparently there were clauses in some of his sponsorship deals about drugs, their also talking about him repaying all prize monies and fraud, bad for cycling and bad for sport.

Me personally think, what he was involved in, amounts to organised crime, and should be stipped of all his assets, or atleast most of them, just like they do with organised crime bosses when they are prosecuted under that "r.i.c.o" act. As it is now, with him still being able to rake in millions, I can't see how it would be any kind of deterrent for any up and coming sportsman thinking about cheating his way to the top

He's manipulated every thing he's ever touched, he's got to be punished surely, as you say what message does it send to up and coming sports people.


Yet you claim Chopra's just as bad as him. :lol:

If you read my reply to polo, you will see I thought chops had done a lot worse than he had, all the way through this post you have tried to ridicule me, you only read what you want to see, are you trying to upset me, do you think buy outing someone down it makes you bigger, I can understand why lots of people have stopped posting now,


Not at all, everyone entitled to opinions, but I personally cannot understand why you'd want Chopra to be given the same sort of sentence as Armstrong - just because they are cheats.

That's like giving someone who's been done drink driving the same sentence as murder etc.

Different penalties suit different rule breaking. :ayatollah:

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:38 pm

llan bluebird wrote:I believe he was world champion before the cancer, it remains to be seen if he was on the gear then, but he was a bull of a rider in them days, like Mark Cavendish. But after the cancer treatment he lost so much weight he could do the grand tours, like Wiggins.

I read his books, believed the story, found him inspirational. To think it was all down to a concoction of drugs is soul destroying - He will never rebounds from this........

Yea he was, I not sure if it was before cancer or after when he was heading the us postal team, but on their first tdf they were slaughtered, no doubt he had a lol of natural ability, was he doping because of his desire to win, to be famous or was he just greedy.

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:44 pm

He whooped them all . He was on a level playing field, as they all rinsed blood. Legend

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:54 pm

Barry, I said a ban, not how long for and as I said I thought what he had done was a lot worse, until polo put me straight, still wouldn't trust him though. :ayatollah:

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:59 pm

kenfighillblue wrote:Barry, I said a ban, not how long for and as I said I thought what he had done was a lot worse, until polo put me straight, still wouldn't trust him though. :ayatollah:


"Any sports person who is a cheat Should be banned from all sports, including Chopra"

This statement implies you see all cases the same, which simply is not the way it should be done.

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:06 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
kenfighillblue wrote:Barry, I said a ban, not how long for and as I said I thought what he had done was a lot worse, until polo put me straight, still wouldn't trust him though. :ayatollah:


"Any sports person who is a cheat Should be banned from all sports, including Chopra"

This statement implies you see all cases the same, which simply is not the way it should be done.

Listen mate I haven't got a degree in english lit, I ain't to good at spelling either, I told you what I ment, this ain't no compitition , give me a break ffs

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:09 pm

kenfighillblue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
kenfighillblue wrote:Barry, I said a ban, not how long for and as I said I thought what he had done was a lot worse, until polo put me straight, still wouldn't trust him though. :ayatollah:


"Any sports person who is a cheat Should be banned from all sports, including Chopra"

This statement implies you see all cases the same, which simply is not the way it should be done.

Listen mate I haven't got a degree in english lit, I ain't to good at spelling either, I told you what I ment, this ain't no compitition , give me a break ffs


Nor have I, wasn't having a go, I disagreed with your statement so I challenged it with my view. :ayatollah:

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:19 pm

The thing what makes it worse, is the fact he wasn't just using drugs for himself to compete, but he was actually the head of a sophisticated performance enhancing drug program that was making him millions by enticing other bike riders, maybe even athletes from other sports to join his program. if me, you or joe bloggs were caught selling drugs to make a profit, we could expect a few years in jail! If someone at the top of the drug food chain gets caught, they can expect at least a decade behind bars, yet he gets to go on oprah :lol:

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:32 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:The thing what makes it worse, is the fact he wasn't just using drugs for himself to compete, but he was actually the head of a sophisticated performance enhancing drug program that was making him millions by enticing other bike riders, maybe even athletes from other sports to join his program. if me, you or joe bloggs were caught selling drugs to make a profit, we could expect a few years in jail! If someone at the top of the drug food chain gets caught, they can expect at least a decade behind bars, yet he gets to go on oprah :lol:
......i think he would be in jail if that was true. Media talk. The team riders who got caught said he made them take the juice. Well if someone told me to take drugs i would tell them no thanks . everyone taking the moral ground in life but snorting themselves ha ha

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:46 pm

cardiff yid wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:The thing what makes it worse, is the fact he wasn't just using drugs for himself to compete, but he was actually the head of a sophisticated performance enhancing drug program that was making him millions by enticing other bike riders, maybe even athletes from other sports to join his program. if me, you or joe bloggs were caught selling drugs to make a profit, we could expect a few years in jail! If someone at the top of the drug food chain gets caught, they can expect at least a decade behind bars, yet he gets to go on oprah :lol:
......i think he would be in jail if that was true. Media talk. The team riders who got caught said he made them take the juice. Well if someone told me to take drugs i would tell them no thanks . everyone taking the moral ground in life but snorting themselves ha ha

Like you say mate, lot of it probably just media talk, he needs to come out and put it all straight though, at the moment, a lot of people are thinking he was some kind of drug king-pin in the sporting world, if he was just juicing himself up, then fair enough, but if he was part of a bigger program to make huge profits out of it, then he should be brought to book like any other big time drug dealer would :lol:

Re: lance armstrong

Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:50 pm

mr'mogreenz wrote:
cardiff yid wrote:
mr'mogreenz wrote:The thing what makes it worse, is the fact he wasn't just using drugs for himself to compete, but he was actually the head of a sophisticated performance enhancing drug program that was making him millions by enticing other bike riders, maybe even athletes from other sports to join his program. if me, you or joe bloggs were caught selling drugs to make a profit, we could expect a few years in jail! If someone at the top of the drug food chain gets caught, they can expect at least a decade behind bars, yet he gets to go on oprah :lol:
......i think he would be in jail if that was true. Media talk. The team riders who got caught said he made them take the juice. Well if someone told me to take drugs i would tell them no thanks . everyone taking the moral ground in life but snorting themselves ha ha

Like you say mate, lot of it probably just media talk, he needs to come out and put it all straight though, at the moment, a lot of people are thinking he was some kind of drug king-pin in the sporting world, if he was just juicing himself up, then fair enough, but if he was part of a bigger program to make huge profits out of it, then he should be brought to book like any other big time drug dealer would :lol:

I think there are a lot of people running scared, as you say we don't know the hole truth, so god knows what is going to come out