Lance Armstrong the perfect person too...

Just because you survived cancer, however admirable does not make you a nice person. Listen to Daniel Dicanio and the French guy whose name escapes me about Lance Armstrong. He was a bully and a control freak and put pressure on those who disagreed with what he has been doing.

Anyone who defends him is either blind or going against the grain for the craic, he's a despicable man whose blaming everyone else for whats happened, he's no sorry for what he's done he's sorry for being caught!

Just because you survived cancer, however admirable does not make you a nice person. Listen to Daniel Dicanio and the French guy whose name escapes me about Lance Armstrong. He was a bully and a control freak and put pressure on those who disagreed with what he has been doing.

Anyone who defends him is either blind or going against the grain for the craic, he's a despicable man whose blaming everyone else for whats happened, he's no sorry for what he's done he's sorry for being caught!

Perfectly summed up

Just because you survived cancer, however admirable does not make you a nice person. Listen to Daniel Dicanio and the French guy whose name escapes me about Lance Armstrong. He was a bully and a control freak and put pressure on those who disagreed with what he has been doing.

Anyone who defends him is either blind or going against the grain for the craic, he's a despicable man whose blaming everyone else for whats happened, he's no sorry for what he's done he's sorry for being caught!

The great man speaks again.

He's lost everything. I'd say that's enough.

the guy lied in a court of law!


Sued people who he knew were telling the truth! can you imagine what it must be like to stand in a court KNOWING what you say is correct, and be called a liar, a whore/prostitute ( in the case of that female doctor)

his cancer shouldnt even come into it, he is a horrible man who deserves to lose absolutely everything he has gained from a sport he has cheated!

Then he should be trialled for perverting the court of justice.

He's lost everything. I'd say that's enough.

the guy lied in a court of law!


Sued people who he knew were telling the truth! can you imagine what it must be like to stand in a court KNOWING what you say is correct, and be called a liar, a whore/prostitute ( in the case of that female doctor)

his cancer shouldnt even come into it, he is a horrible man who deserves to lose absolutely everything he has gained from a sport he has cheated!

I honestly can't get my head around chuckles quote.
Probably the oddest thing I've seen on this MB and that's saying something

people have differing thoughts, get over it.

World champ at young age , cancer that involved losing a testicle and 3 holes drilled in head to extract cancer 15 lesions size of half golf balls on lungs. Cofidis his french team ripped up his contract on his death bed. He vowed they would all fall one by one when he returned to cycling. 7 tour de france wins with all his nearest rivals tested poss there or after for doping apart from possibly josef beloki who crashed out retiring with broken femur , hip , hand and elbow. Sure he doped like most pro sportsmen .including the rugby boys are on it . He competed on a level playing field and crushed them even 2004 when all the other teams got together to beat him. Oh and raised over 300 mill for cancer. True its all caved in around him, but hey he aint murdered anyone. All the people tut tutting no f**k all and many consuming amounts of Recreational drugs every weekend. The Beijing olympics over 200 competitors tested poss but only a few got done. They did not want to devalue the olympic games . I certainly are not condoning him but it takes more than that to win 7 times. His main way of cheating was re oxygenating his blood by blood tranfusions hence he passed 600 drug tests.

Doesn't everyone feel its just a massive over reaction? As mentioned above, people are talking about him like he's done something on the scale of a jimmy Savile!

I've put it into perspective. I don't have any respect for him; the way he went around suing people to cover his own arse was not good & he should be forced to pay that back and more.

If he lied in a court of law (I didn't know that) then he should face the criminal charges that go along with that.

He should also be forced to work with the cycling authorities and tell them exactly how the system was worked. This should try and prevent it happening again in the future.

At the end of the day, he hasn't murdered anyone; the way some people hve reacted to it, you'd think he has!

Doesn't everyone feel its just a massive over reaction? As mentioned above, people are talking about him like he's done something on the scale of a jimmy Savile!

I've put it into perspective. I don't have any respect for him; the way he went around suing people to cover his own arse was not good & he should be forced to pay that back and more.

If he lied in a court of law (I didn't know that) then he should face the criminal charges that go along with that.

He should also be forced to work with the cycling authorities and tell them exactly how the system was worked. This should try and prevent it happening again in the future.

At the end of the day, he hasn't murdered anyone; the way some people hve reacted to it, you'd think he has!

i hate it when people say, for example, that there is "more to life than football" yeah of course there is, but doesnt mean we cant get upset/angry/emotional about it, and its similar here, everything should be judged on its own merits, you cant say that just because he hasnt killed someone everyone should calm down.

Take other crimes for example, if someone you know had lost thousands because of a fraudster, of had their house burned down by an arsonist, would you accept "calm down, they werent murdered"?

The most digusting thing about it is the fact that he will make alot more money coming out of all this. Its indeed great the things he's done for charity but it doesnt exempt him for being punished or frowned upon. He should pay back all his winning or sponsorship etc aswell as all the money he has won through court settlements.

The most digusting thing about it is the fact that he will make alot more money coming out of all this. Its indeed great the things he's done for charity but it doesnt exempt him for being punished or frowned upon. He should pay back all his winning or sponsorship etc aswell as all the money he has won through court settlements.

and he will. I really cant see him making money out of this, he apparently didnt get paid for the interview, he might sell a few more autobiographies off the back of this, cant see him making money anywhere else, and absolutely everyone will be all over him trying to claim money back!

Doesn't everyone feel its just a massive over reaction? As mentioned above, people are talking about him like he's done something on the scale of a jimmy Savile!

I've put it into perspective. I don't have any respect for him; the way he went around suing people to cover his own arse was not good & he should be forced to pay that back and more.

If he lied in a court of law (I didn't know that) then he should face the criminal charges that go along with that.

He should also be forced to work with the cycling authorities and tell them exactly how the system was worked. This should try and prevent it happening again in the future.

At the end of the day, he hasn't murdered anyone; the way some people hve reacted to it, you'd think he has!

i hate it when people say, for example, that there is "more to life than football" yeah of course there is, but doesnt mean we cant get upset/angry/emotional about it, and its similar here, everything should be judged on its own merits, you cant say that just because he hasnt killed someone everyone should calm down.

Take other crimes for example, if someone you know had lost thousands because of a fraudster, of had their house burned down by an arsonist, would you accept "calm down, they werent murdered"?

I can say that, because it's how I feel.

Doesn't everyone feel its just a massive over reaction? As mentioned above, people are talking about him like he's done something on the scale of a jimmy Savile!

I've put it into perspective. I don't have any respect for him; the way he went around suing people to cover his own arse was not good & he should be forced to pay that back and more.

If he lied in a court of law (I didn't know that) then he should face the criminal charges that go along with that.

He should also be forced to work with the cycling authorities and tell them exactly how the system was worked. This should try and prevent it happening again in the future.

At the end of the day, he hasn't murdered anyone; the way some people hve reacted to it, you'd think he has!

This is an example of a man who continually goes against the grain on this messageaboard just so he can get his daily fix of an argument. Surely no one can be so daft to not see the scale of what Lance has done. He can't be done for perjury because American law states that he has to be caught before a certain time I believe, that time has elapsed. Not sure on that point but I heard on the radio.

Chuckles, are you playing the wanker again or seriously deluded? He's effectively stolen millions of dollars with his cheating, forced those who did not want to dope to dope while bullied everyone else who did not want to to quit. He even fixed races in his favour manipulating the field. He's already admitted to not only be a cheat but a bully and a control freak.

He won't answer the question that really matter, who was involved, who were his suppliers, who introduced him to doping and which of his sponsors knew. Blokes an arsehole and he's going to do everything in his power to keep all the money he's stolen from other competitors.

Open your eyes.

He's lost everything. I'd say that's enough.

the guy lied in a court of law!


Sued people who he knew were telling the truth! can you imagine what it must be like to stand in a court KNOWING what you say is correct, and be called a liar, a whore/prostitute ( in the case of that female doctor)

his cancer shouldnt even come into it, he is a horrible man who deserves to lose absolutely everything he has gained from a sport he has cheated!

I honestly can't get my head around chuckles quote.
Probably the oddest thing I've seen on this MB and that's saying something

people have differing thoughts, get over it.

Nothing to get over

Lets not get carried away with the facts . His x team mate Floyd Landis won the tour in 2006 and got stripped for doping . The allegations unfolded when his book came out. Then another x team member Tyler Hamilton came out with a book to sell. Then all the team done a deal for 6 mth bans with USADA. The deal was to rat on Armstrong saying he forced them blah blah. They should be banned for life aswell if you like. All this crap about fixing races it dont work quite like that. People who made allegations against him while he was riding were doing it for money. They were silenced and people suffered the consequences which was wrong. Armstrong was on the scrap heap after recovering from the cancer and he took a chance and has been caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He competed at the very top against the top cyclists who also doped. He was still an amazing athlete. I dont think he was pulling the strings this came way above his cababilities. I dont think the Oprah interview has done him any favours either which He was in my opinion forced into it. This saga will run and run but dont think any other sport is clean either. Even golfers and snooker players have been caught taking beta blockers to calm them or jockeys aswell at it. Take a look at the bodies of some of these athletes compared to half a century ago. Dont get me started on boxers or rugby players. Most are cheating and profiteering. One of the greatest cyclists Fausto Coppi once said he only took amphetamines when needed. Asked how often he said "on any of the tours everyday" As for Armstrong he is facing the lynching mob and others higher up are squirming

I'm a bit bored with Lance Armstrong now and honestly couldn't give a shit anymore. Wiggins did it the right way, Nicole Cooke too and that's that. Always had respect for the sport back in London years ago, as a mate was semi-pro. Nowadays, I think its popular because the MAMILAC's can pretend their 'sporty' by pointlessly doing 250 miles per week trying to make up for wasting their formative years as tedious mediocre twats. And clogging up the roads which they think they now own. MAMILAC's=Middle Age Men In Lycra Are Cunts. They're the real dopes in cycling.

Doesn't everyone feel its just a massive over reaction? As mentioned above, people are talking about him like he's done something on the scale of a jimmy Savile!

I've put it into perspective. I don't have any respect for him; the way he went around suing people to cover his own arse was not good & he should be forced to pay that back and more.

If he lied in a court of law (I didn't know that) then he should face the criminal charges that go along with that.

He should also be forced to work with the cycling authorities and tell them exactly how the system was worked. This should try and prevent it happening again in the future.

At the end of the day, he hasn't murdered anyone; the way some people hve reacted to it, you'd think he has!

no its not a massive over reaction at all and comparing jimmy saville to lance armstrong is ridiculous because its two different worlds.

in the world of sport however Lance commited probably the worst crime you can consistently cheating.

Nicole Cooke summed it up pretty damn well when she retired and she has a good career out of cycling and very successful winning many things, she feels robbed not for herself but for other riders who ride clean. Stardom, fame, money, name in the history books everything, there is no amount of compensation that can come close to losing that.

Who came second to all of Lances Tour de France wins? Do you know I dont know not without looking it up. This man has ruined peoples careers.

People say Cristiano Ronaldo must be wholly frustrated because in any other era in football he would be the best footballer by a mile unfortunately for him a certain Lionel Messi is playing at the same time. Now imagine at the end of Messi's career he admits to using performance enhancing drugs and his career is a lie, Ronaldo would be spitting teeth all his hard work and constantly being 2nd because of a cheat, how do you compensate him? You cant can you.

I imagine its a sport you dont know much about. Ive been a cycling fan for years and Lance Armstrong has been an inspiration to me whilst growing up, from his motivational speeches to the press even his cameo in dodgeball. I feel robbed and im a fan no prize money for me or big contract,just watching an inspirational team and man watching him put the hard work in putting in the hard miles, to find out its all been a lie.

World champ at young age , cancer that involved losing a testicle and 3 holes drilled in head to extract cancer 15 lesions size of half golf balls on lungs. Cofidis his french team ripped up his contract on his death bed. He vowed they would all fall one by one when he returned to cycling. 7 tour de france wins with all his nearest rivals tested poss there or after for doping apart from possibly josef beloki who crashed out retiring with broken femur , hip , hand and elbow. Sure he doped like most pro sportsmen .including the rugby boys are on it . He competed on a level playing field and crushed them even 2004 when all the other teams got together to beat him. Oh and raised over 300 mill for cancer. True its all caved in around him, but hey he aint murdered anyone. All the people tut tutting no f**k all and many consuming amounts of Recreational drugs every weekend. The Beijing olympics over 200 competitors tested poss but only a few got done. They did not want to devalue the olympic games . I certainly are not condoning him but it takes more than that to win 7 times. His main way of cheating was re oxygenating his blood by blood tranfusions hence he passed 600 drug tests.

I find myself agreeing with this. It seems many think he was an ordinary bloke turned into a superhero because he took EPO. The guy was still the best rider in the field and all his main rivals were taking the same stuff. Allegedly!

Not even in the top twenty before drug taking

End doping???

He could head the challenge against such awfull actions

he should do it from a jail cell

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Doesn't everyone feel its just a massive over reaction? As mentioned above, people are talking about him like he's done something on the scale of a jimmy Savile!

I've put it into perspective. I don't have any respect for him; the way he went around suing people to cover his own arse was not good & he should be forced to pay that back and more.

If he lied in a court of law (I didn't know that) then he should face the criminal charges that go along with that.

He should also be forced to work with the cycling authorities and tell them exactly how the system was worked. This should try and prevent it happening again in the future.

At the end of the day, he hasn't murdered anyone; the way some people hve reacted to it, you'd think he has!

This is an example of a man who continually goes against the grain on this messageaboard just so he can get his daily fix of an argument. Surely no one can be so daft to not see the scale of what Lance has done. He can't be done for perjury because American law states that he has to be caught before a certain time I believe, that time has elapsed. Not sure on that point but I heard on the radio.

Chuckles, are you playing the wanker again or seriously deluded? He's effectively stolen millions of dollars with his cheating, forced those who did not want to dope to dope while bullied everyone else who did not want to to quit. He even fixed races in his favour manipulating the field. He's already admitted to not only be a cheat but a bully and a control freak.

He won't answer the question that really matter, who was involved, who were his suppliers, who introduced him to doping and which of his sponsors knew. Blokes an arsehole and he's going to do everything in his power to keep all the money he's stolen from other competitors.

Open your eyes.

What he should do now is fully answer all questions asked by the governing body. He's obviously not a very nice person, but does that make him a criminal? Not in my eyes..

He has effectively stolen money, maybe - but he didnt actually steal it. Paying it all back with leave him short.

We have differing opinions, that's fine, but no need for childish name calling because of it.

Who came second to all of Lances Tour de France wins? Do you know I dont know not without looking it up. This man has ruined peoples careers.

Problem with that is that the doping etc was so rife at the time, nobody can be sure of who was clean and who wasn't. As a cycling fan, you'd know that.

Who came second to all of Lances Tour de France wins? Do you know I dont know not without looking it up. This man has ruined peoples careers.

Problem with that is that the doping etc was so rife at the time, nobody can be sure of who was clean and who wasn't. As a cycling fan, you'd know that.

yes granted 2nd 3rd 4th, doesnt matter. Cycling has always had problems with doping but then Lance took it to another level again. Thats exactly why none of Lances Tour de France titles are being awarded to anybody else.
now like it or not take cycling seriously or dont couldnt really care what you think there will be more than enough cyclists who rode clean and they will never get the recognition they deserve. For that alone Lance should be punished very heavily

Quite right.

Quite right.

The doping aint the problem for many. The problem is suing people who were telling the truth. Those people must have felt emotionally broken during the process of it. Imagine standing there, knowing you are telling the truth and yet it feels like everyone is against you because a sports icon is lying.

Doesn't everyone feel its just a massive over reaction? As mentioned above, people are talking about him like he's done something on the scale of a jimmy Savile!

I've put it into perspective. I don't have any respect for him; the way he went around suing people to cover his own arse was not good & he should be forced to pay that back and more.

If he lied in a court of law (I didn't know that) then he should face the criminal charges that go along with that.

He should also be forced to work with the cycling authorities and tell them exactly how the system was worked. This should try and prevent it happening again in the future.

At the end of the day, he hasn't murdered anyone; the way some people hve reacted to it, you'd think he has!

This is an example of a man who continually goes against the grain on this messageaboard just so he can get his daily fix of an argument. Surely no one can be so daft to not see the scale of what Lance has done. He can't be done for perjury because American law states that he has to be caught before a certain time I believe, that time has elapsed. Not sure on that point but I heard on the radio.

Chuckles, are you playing the wanker again or seriously deluded? He's effectively stolen millions of dollars with his cheating, forced those who did not want to dope to dope while bullied everyone else who did not want to to quit. He even fixed races in his favour manipulating the field. He's already admitted to not only be a cheat but a bully and a control freak.

He won't answer the question that really matter, who was involved, who were his suppliers, who introduced him to doping and which of his sponsors knew. Blokes an arsehole and he's going to do everything in his power to keep all the money he's stolen from other competitors.

Open your eyes.

What he should do now is fully answer all questions asked by the governing body. He's obviously not a very nice person, but does that make him a criminal? Not in my eyes..

He has effectively stolen money, maybe - but he didnt actually steal it. Paying it all back with leave him short.

We have differing opinions, that's fine, but no need for childish name calling because of it.

So cheating to win millions of pounds, forcing others to take performance enhancing drugs, potentially fixing the field in his favour and openly admitting to introducing many of his team mates to banned substances is not a criminal offence. I'll steal all your live savings and then give it out down the CCS until I have no money left, if I have to pay you back chuckles it will leave me short. Lets call it quits then. Some how I do not see you being so relaxed when it's your own money.

We have differing opinion, thats fine, but I don't need a snotty nosed teeny bopper telling me what to do.