Pointless and damaging hate must end.

Found it Cal

Cal, I agree and for the last 2 months its been Superb until one person rears his ugly head and snipes non stop about the posters etc on here. we should ignore him and will from NOW ON

Annis


So it's all TLG' fault is it????



Elwood

Cal, I agree and for the last 2 months its been Superb until one person rears his ugly head and snipes non stop about the posters etc on here. we should ignore him and will from NOW ON

Annis


So it's all TLG' fault is it????



Elwood

Elwood why keep dragging this up, I have apologised to TLG so why can't that be the end of it?

Cal, I agree and for the last 2 months its been Superb until one person rears his ugly head and snipes non stop about the posters etc on here. we should ignore him and will from NOW ON

Annis


So it's all TLG' fault is it????



Elwood

Elwood why keep dragging this up, I have apologised to TLG so why can't that be the end of it?

Tony

Sorry I wasn't actually referring to your little faux pas which you have graciously apoolgised for.

I just took exception to Annis again seemingly saying it is just TLG's fault when that plainly isn't the case. I have seen various examples of sniping from idiots on both boards fairly regularly over the months.

To be frank I would like to knock both their heads together They are both opinionated blokes who's views i usually respect, they both talk common sense frequently but they both on occasions go over the top and then dig their heels in and start dragging people in on both sides.

I don't think ignoring TLG as Annis says is tghe right thing to do incidentally. I wish they would both kiss and make up (metaphorically speaking of course!)

Regards


Elwood

Cal, I agree and for the last 2 months its been Superb until one person rears his ugly head and snipes non stop about the posters etc on here. we should ignore him and will from NOW ON

Annis


So it's all TLG' fault is it????



Elwood

No we can all be as bad as each other, but hje will never admit when he is in the wrong and sniping and nasty debates only start when he is involved.

I reckon ignoring tlg is the best way,just my opinion.

Cal, I agree and for the last 2 months its been Superb until one person rears his ugly head and snipes non stop about the posters etc on here. we should ignore him and will from NOW ON

Annis


So it's all TLG' fault is it????



Elwood

No we can all be as bad as each other, but hje will never admit when he is in the wrong and sniping and nasty debates only start when he is involved.

Er he did apologise for his comments on the march.

And he is not the only one to start nasty. debates.Or sniping

I have 6 emails sent to me with his latest postings, I have already put 2 on here and they were both once again slating THIS FORUM. NOW LETS FORGET HIM. We have had our say.

I have 6 emails sent to me with his latest postings, I have already put 2 on here and they were both once again slating THIS FORUM. NOW LETS FORGET HIM. We have had our say.

Fair enough. I've made my point and there's no point labouring it We'll have to agree to disagree on this one Annis

Onward and upward


Regards

Elwood

(Authors note The fact I have used the word labouring does not necessarily reflect the political views of the poster.
Perhaps I was too liberal in my language there. I shall be more conservative in future)>

And we think we've got problems between our set of supporters? It's got so bad at PSG they want to dissolve the club altogether! As they say there's always someone out there in a worst postion than you/us.

link - http://feeds.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/football/rss.

Fans' groups closed down in attempt to tackle violence
• 'It is not enough - PSG itself must be dissolved'

PSG 'must be dissolved'
The French government's latest attempt to eradicate football hooliganism has caused quite a stir. "This is a measure that is unprecedented in French sport!" screams Le Parisien after the national commission for the prevention of football violence "dissolved" seven fan groups accused of fomenting much of the fighting that has become endemic in and around some Ligue 1 grounds, most notably the Parc des Princes, home of Paris Saint-Germain.

Five of the seven disbanded groups were of PSG fans (the other two were from Lyon and Nice). The most ferocious confrontations in recent years have been between PSG fans and ... other PSG fans. The commission's decision was driven by the events that preceded February's PSG-Marseille match, when rival PSG fans engaged in clashes that left a 37-year-old man dead.

PSG took the wrong path almost from the outset. Founded in 1970 amid dreams of grandeur, the club did not immediately attract mass support. In 1978, in a bid to foster popular fervour, the owners dubbed one end of the stadium the "Boulogne Kop" and offered cut-price tickets. Fans flocked in, but among them were many neo-Nazis, whose presence put off many other would-be supporters, especially non-whites. Rather than root out the racists, the club tried, in the early 1990s, to attract members of ethnic minorities to the opposite end of the ground, the Auteuil stand. "That was a mistake," an unnamed former club director tells France Football. "It amounted to tacit acceptance that the Boulogne was a whites-only stand."

The rivalry between the two ends of the Parc offers a caricature of the debate on immigration: while the Auteuil associations insist they are affirming their right to participate in public life on equal terms, the Boulogne extremists view them as unwelcome immigrants who want their women, their jobs, and now their football club. Clashes have become more frequent and more brutal.

Though a PSG fan was shot dead by police in 2006 after fighting following a Uefa Cup defeat by Hapoel Tel Aviv, Yann Lorence's death was the first time a PSG fan has been killed by a supporter of the club. The disbanding of the fans' groups drew predictably hostile reaction from the supporters themselves, many of whom protested before yesterday's French Cup final between PSG and Monaco. Others believe the dissolution is not radical enough. "It is not enough to dissolve such and such supporters' association," declares L'Express journalist Christopher Barbier. "PSG itself must be dissolved. An example must be set for the whole country."

Rumours are running wild. The latest one is that a new club will be created in Paris to cater for all the football fans who are turned off by the violence. And the mastermind supposedly behind this new club is none other than the disgraced former president of PSG's arch-rivals, Marseille, the convicted match‑fixer Bernard Tapie.

And we think we've got problems between our set of supporters? It's got so bad at PSG they want to dissolve the club altogether! As they say there's always someone out there in a worst postion than you/us.

link - http://feeds.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/football/rss.

Fans' groups closed down in attempt to tackle violence
• 'It is not enough - PSG itself must be dissolved'

PSG 'must be dissolved'
The French government's latest attempt to eradicate football hooliganism has caused quite a stir. "This is a measure that is unprecedented in French sport!" screams Le Parisien after the national commission for the prevention of football violence "dissolved" seven fan groups accused of fomenting much of the fighting that has become endemic in and around some Ligue 1 grounds, most notably the Parc des Princes, home of Paris Saint-Germain.

Five of the seven disbanded groups were of PSG fans (the other two were from Lyon and Nice). The most ferocious confrontations in recent years have been between PSG fans and ... other PSG fans. The commission's decision was driven by the events that preceded February's PSG-Marseille match, when rival PSG fans engaged in clashes that left a 37-year-old man dead.

PSG took the wrong path almost from the outset. Founded in 1970 amid dreams of grandeur, the club did not immediately attract mass support. In 1978, in a bid to foster popular fervour, the owners dubbed one end of the stadium the "Boulogne Kop" and offered cut-price tickets. Fans flocked in, but among them were many neo-Nazis, whose presence put off many other would-be supporters, especially non-whites. Rather than root out the racists, the club tried, in the early 1990s, to attract members of ethnic minorities to the opposite end of the ground, the Auteuil stand. "That was a mistake," an unnamed former club director tells France Football. "It amounted to tacit acceptance that the Boulogne was a whites-only stand."

The rivalry between the two ends of the Parc offers a caricature of the debate on immigration: while the Auteuil associations insist they are affirming their right to participate in public life on equal terms, the Boulogne extremists view them as unwelcome immigrants who want their women, their jobs, and now their football club. Clashes have become more frequent and more brutal.

Though a PSG fan was shot dead by police in 2006 after fighting following a Uefa Cup defeat by Hapoel Tel Aviv, Yann Lorence's death was the first time a PSG fan has been killed by a supporter of the club. The disbanding of the fans' groups drew predictably hostile reaction from the supporters themselves, many of whom protested before yesterday's French Cup final between PSG and Monaco. Others believe the dissolution is not radical enough. "It is not enough to dissolve such and such supporters' association," declares L'Express journalist Christopher Barbier. "PSG itself must be dissolved. An example must be set for the whole country."

Rumours are running wild. The latest one is that a new club will be created in Paris to cater for all the football fans who are turned off by the violence. And the mastermind supposedly behind this new club is none other than the disgraced former president of PSG's arch-rivals, Marseille, the convicted match‑fixer Bernard Tapie.

Don't give people ideas!!!!!!!

or the OLD BILL