Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:10 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:10 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Kenfig Blue wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:Danny Says wrote:wez1927 wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:People will be talking as if Mackay signed the checks.
seems likey moody and malky being blamed for the waste of money on players hmmm
Fair criticism.
Cornelius was an embarrassment and showed a total failure by the previous management and scout to properly vet a player.
"Embarrassment" she says when he was 20 years old and hardly played.
You don't spend 8.5m on a 20 yr old striker in your first PL season
True. It was a risk, just like Ole buying a load of foreigners and expecting them to keep us up.
Like playing an 18 year old that has less strength than a fly in a relegation battle.
You were probably creaming over the signing at first, it didn't work out, so now you criticise the high risk/big bust signing.
So I guess your one of those people who is happy with the club wasting tens of millions, would you of preferred Ole to buy a Chris samba for 12 mil and put him in 100k a wk, but still go down like QPR? I know anyone who cares about the club will be happy with Oles spending, spending 6 mil on all those players, plus selling the deadwood bringing money back in was great business. Who would you of bought in the jan window then genius?
My sentiments exactly, it's either Ole goes out and spends recklessly in a window known for charging over the odds for players or try and buy players that can keep you up but also ready for a promotion push next season. We done okay transfer business in Jan
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:11 pm
PartyWithOle wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:Danny Says wrote:wez1927 wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:People will be talking as if Mackay signed the checks.
seems likey moody and malky being blamed for the waste of money on players hmmm
Fair criticism.
Cornelius was an embarrassment and showed a total failure by the previous management and scout to properly vet a player.
"Embarrassment" she says when he was 20 years old and hardly played.
You don't spend 8.5m on a 20 yr old striker in your first PL season
True. It was a risk, just like Ole buying a load of foreigners and expecting them to keep us up.
Like playing an 18 year old that has less strength than a fly in a relegation battle.
You were probably creaming over the signing at first, it didn't work out, so now you criticise the high risk/big bust signing.
Genuinely wasn't, average league where he only performed(when scouted) when the title was more or less wrapped up. Teams aren't made in January though, we should have either sacked Malky before so Ole could identify his targets sooner/implemented his philosophy quicker. We will go down because of reckless summer spending
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:14 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:Danny Says wrote:wez1927 wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:People will be talking as if Mackay signed the checks.
seems likey moody and malky being blamed for the waste of money on players hmmm
Fair criticism.
Cornelius was an embarrassment and showed a total failure by the previous management and scout to properly vet a player.
"Embarrassment" she says when he was 20 years old and hardly played.
You don't spend 8.5m on a 20 yr old striker in your first PL season
True. It was a risk, just like Ole buying a load of foreigners and expecting them to keep us up.
Like playing an 18 year old that has less strength than a fly in a relegation battle.
You were probably creaming over the signing at first, it didn't work out, so now you criticise the high risk/big bust signing.
Genuinely wasn't, average league where he only performed(when scouted) when the title was more or less wrapped up. Teams aren't made in January though, we should have either sacked Malky before so Ole could identify his targets sooner/implemented his philosophy quicker. We will go down because of reckless summer spending
No we will go down because we hired a fkin rookie of a manager.
Pulis can do it, so why make excuses for Solksjaer?.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:15 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:PartyWithOle wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:Danny Says wrote:wez1927 wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:People will be talking as if Mackay signed the checks.
seems likey moody and malky being blamed for the waste of money on players hmmm
Fair criticism.
Cornelius was an embarrassment and showed a total failure by the previous management and scout to properly vet a player.
"Embarrassment" she says when he was 20 years old and hardly played.
You don't spend 8.5m on a 20 yr old striker in your first PL season
True. It was a risk, just like Ole buying a load of foreigners and expecting them to keep us up.
Like playing an 18 year old that has less strength than a fly in a relegation battle.
You were probably creaming over the signing at first, it didn't work out, so now you criticise the high risk/big bust signing.
Genuinely wasn't, average league where he only performed(when scouted) when the title was more or less wrapped up. Teams aren't made in January though, we should have either sacked Malky before so Ole could identify his targets sooner/implemented his philosophy quicker. We will go down because of reckless summer spending
No we will go down because we hired a fkin rookie of a manager.
Pulis can do it, so why make excuses for Solksjaer?.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:18 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:20 pm
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Why are the club putting this statement out at this time?
Surely whilst in the mix of a relegation battle what is the point in going over old ground regarding previous transfer dealings?
At this time what the club needs is a period of stability and for everyone to focus and concentrate in supporting OGS and the team to get out of our current position. We can do without having digs at previous members of staff. All it is doing is bringing back into the public eye and the press will gave a field day.
Is it a case of deflecting any blame from the club to increase season ticket sales? There has to be a reason why the club have issued this statement at this crucial time.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:20 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:I am genuinely bored of explaining that our best players were bought under Mackay. Some dirt cheap.
He only had the clubs interests at heart
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:23 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:35 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:Ye, we'd still be in championship doing nothing without Mackay, yet you happily call him a c**t.
I think it is just wishful thinking and genuine fear at how defensive you are over our rookie Norwegian. We are joke of a club (currently) and hiring a rookie manager just showed that even more.
Our fanbase as so quick to hate. If Solksjaer kept us up then moved up, you'd probably be dragging his name through the dirt.
You want instant success when alot of you were saying, "as long as we scrape and stay up i'd be happy" preseason. Well, that lasted all of about 3 games.
I hope Solksjaer does well, but I see no reason whatsoever to talk about Mackay this way, it is just plain unnecessary for a man who only wanted cardiff to do well.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:46 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:50 pm
Bluebird86 wrote::lol: how can anybody stick up for malky he spent millions on shit players.
Now the key word there is SHIT
Yes somebody else had to sign the cheques but the amount spent is not the f*cking issue.
He signed total crap. Three of them don't even play here anymore. One hasn't played a single minute of league football.
We had a 25 man squad with about four f*cking right backs in it an no goal scorer.
People need to get there tongues out of malkys ass because he fucked up and fucked up massively.
We wouldn't of stayed up under malky his teams play football for 75 minutes then sit on the edge of there own box seeing who can toe punt it the furthest down the pitch to nobody.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:51 pm
Bluebird86 wrote::lol: how can anybody stick up for malky he spent millions on shit players.
Now the key word there is SHIT
Yes somebody else had to sign the cheques but the amount spent is not the f*cking issue.
He signed total crap. Three of them don't even play here anymore. One hasn't played a single minute of league football.
We had a 25 man squad with about four f*cking right backs in it an no goal scorer.
People need to get there tongues out of malkys ass because he fucked up and fucked up massively.
We wouldn't of stayed up under malky his teams play football for 75 minutes then sit on the edge of there own box seeing who can toe punt it the furthest down the pitch to nobody.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:55 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:00 pm
ammo wrote:bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Why are the club putting this statement out at this time?
Surely whilst in the mix of a relegation battle what is the point in going over old ground regarding previous transfer dealings?
At this time what the club needs is a period of stability and for everyone to focus and concentrate in supporting OGS and the team to get out of our current position. We can do without having digs at previous members of staff. All it is doing is bringing back into the public eye and the press will gave a field day.
Is it a case of deflecting any blame from the club to increase season ticket sales? There has to be a reason why the club have issued this statement at this crucial time.
Slag the club out when they don't give out info slag them out when they do. The club can do no right in some peoples eyes
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:00 pm
bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Why are the club putting this statement out at this time?
Surely whilst in the mix of a relegation battle what is the point in going over old ground regarding previous transfer dealings?
At this time what the club needs is a period of stability and for everyone to focus and concentrate in supporting OGS and the team to get out of our current position. We can do without having digs at previous members of staff. All it is doing is bringing back into the public eye and the press will gave a field day.
Is it a case of deflecting any blame from the club to increase season ticket sales? There has to be a reason why the club have issued this statement at this crucial time.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:01 pm
ihatealiens wrote:I think this could be Tan laying the ground for possible legal proceedings against Malky here, interesting times ahead
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:02 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:Ye, we'd still be in championship doing nothing without Mackay, yet you happily call him a c**t.
I think it is just wishful thinking and genuine fear at how defensive you are over our rookie Norwegian. We are joke of a club (currently) and hiring a rookie manager just showed that even more.
Our fanbase as so quick to hate. If Solksjaer kept us up then moved up, you'd probably be dragging his name through the dirt.
You want instant success when alot of you were saying, "as long as we scrape and stay up i'd be happy" preseason. Well, that lasted all of about 3 games.
I hope Solksjaer does well, but I see no reason whatsoever to talk about Mackay this way, it is just plain unnecessary for a man who only wanted cardiff to do well.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:04 pm
ammo wrote:bridgendbluebird30 wrote:Why are the club putting this statement out at this time?
Surely whilst in the mix of a relegation battle what is the point in going over old ground regarding previous transfer dealings?
At this time what the club needs is a period of stability and for everyone to focus and concentrate in supporting OGS and the team to get out of our current position. We can do without having digs at previous members of staff. All it is doing is bringing back into the public eye and the press will gave a field day.
Is it a case of deflecting any blame from the club to increase season ticket sales? There has to be a reason why the club have issued this statement at this crucial time.
Slag the club out when they don't give out info slag them out when they do. The club can do no right in some peoples eyes
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:09 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:13 pm
Nuclearblue wrote:Its his staff his employers that fooked up. So in the end its Tans fook up. And its Tans fook up witb the re brand.And let him watch as his beloved newbie plastic fans fook off when we are in the Championship.
Ken Wyn Jones is a tidy player when he wants to be, but the last two games he was shite, so it does not bode well he dosent seem to give a flying fook already. Fabio is a defender that cant defend. Zaha is still raw who tries to do to much by himself and gives the ball away all the time. He needs a good manager to bring out the best in him. The Wolf is no better than Whitts. The other two Norwegian lads the jury is out. Are we good enough to stay up ? I dont think we are but if we are to go down lets go for it and go down fighting.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:30 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:A brown envelope goes far these days, I love them myself, gwyns still spending his according to some online
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:36 pm
Willy-Wonka wrote:Danny Says wrote:wez1927 wrote:Willy-Wonka wrote:People will be talking as if Mackay signed the checks.
seems likey moody and malky being blamed for the waste of money on players hmmm
Fair criticism.
Cornelius was an embarrassment and showed a total failure by the previous management and scout to properly vet a player.
"Embarrassment" she says when he was 20 years old and hardly played.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:38 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:42 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:43 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:10 pm
bspark wrote:If the aim was to be prudent and not to actually stay up then it looks like Ole is the right man for the job. If that was really the aim though why did they give Malky a £35m transfer budget when we know Malky can work with much smaller. First year he was here he only spent about £2m and still managed to put a competitive squad together when the cupboards were left completely bare by Dave Jones.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:13 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:13 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:20 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:ianmackay88 wrote:Lim knows it was just as much his fault as it was Moody's or Malky's and he's still trying to cover his arse. Malky has gone now and it should just left alone particularly in the public eye. To continue to pubically slag him off is just unprofessional and discourteous to everything Malky did for the club. It just shows the type of people we have in charge at the club.
Lim is Malaysian and trust me these guys will look after each other.