Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:44 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:44 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:48 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:54 pm
soulofthesea wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:bluebird58 wrote:If Simon Lim signed off on those deals, particularly the Cornelius one, on the so-called expertise of Malky and Moody, then they are clearly to blame and should be sacked or otherwise disciplined. Any business pays its managers to manage, and when they cock up, as they did badly with this one deal, then they have to suffer the consequences.
Malky and Moody were either stupid or conned over the Cornelius deal. Someone somewhere has made a financial killing over it, and taken money from the club. No wonder Mr Tan was pissed off over it, I'm pissed off over it! We could have used that £8.5 million for a couple of decent players for now rather than the future.
Any pay out due to Malky should be set against a percentage of the £8.5m he cost the club.
Yes it was a judgement call by the manager and a poor one at that, HOWEVER, it's a managers job to nag and cajole the chairman into spending more and more money, into buying bigger and better players, into purchasing better facilities for those players and staff and ,if he felt he could get away with it, into getting gold plated bog roll holders in the training ground changing rooms! It's the RESPONSIBILITY of the chairman/ chief exec and subsequently the board, to reign in managers expectations for the financial good of the club and balance everything up...
I'm sorry , but this whole situation is the fault of Lim, the board and ultimately TAN
And if Tan had vetoed the deal I bet you would be the first to slam him for interfering
We wouldn't have known would we?
In the same way as a manager takes ultimate responsibility for a shit team performance then the bloke who signs off ridiculous contracts like acorns should man up and hold his hands up rather than hang out to dry the next bloke down the chain of command.... Can't have it both ways
the manager takes ultimate responsibility for a shit team,not just because he picks the 11, but also he recomends who we sign.........the sort of player who can do a job..fit in to his plans and ideas.........having it both ways is wanting to blame anyone other than the manager in this case..............malky fucked up on a world class scale....period...if you want to blame lim a steward or a tea lady because you have malky wallpaper carry on.........
Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:57 pm
GrangeEndStar wrote:And now we are lead story for BBC football:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26174851
Just who does the clubs PR? Mr Bean?
Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:35 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:41 pm
ShionyCCFC wrote:MR Bean would do a better job than this bounce of clowns... I'm sure we're not getting any penalties and are not getting the decisions we should because the Premier League doesn't want Cardiff in the league because we're such a joke.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:46 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:47 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:59 pm
BracklaBlue72 wrote:soulofthesea wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:bluebird58 wrote:If Simon Lim signed off on those deals, particularly the Cornelius one, on the so-called expertise of Malky and Moody, then they are clearly to blame and should be sacked or otherwise disciplined. Any business pays its managers to manage, and when they cock up, as they did badly with this one deal, then they have to suffer the consequences.
Malky and Moody were either stupid or conned over the Cornelius deal. Someone somewhere has made a financial killing over it, and taken money from the club. No wonder Mr Tan was pissed off over it, I'm pissed off over it! We could have used that £8.5 million for a couple of decent players for now rather than the future.
Any pay out due to Malky should be set against a percentage of the £8.5m he cost the club.
Yes it was a judgement call by the manager and a poor one at that, HOWEVER, it's a managers job to nag and cajole the chairman into spending more and more money, into buying bigger and better players, into purchasing better facilities for those players and staff and ,if he felt he could get away with it, into getting gold plated bog roll holders in the training ground changing rooms! It's the RESPONSIBILITY of the chairman/ chief exec and subsequently the board, to reign in managers expectations for the financial good of the club and balance everything up...
I'm sorry , but this whole situation is the fault of Lim, the board and ultimately TAN
And if Tan had vetoed the deal I bet you would be the first to slam him for interfering
We wouldn't have known would we?
In the same way as a manager takes ultimate responsibility for a shit team performance then the bloke who signs off ridiculous contracts like acorns should man up and hold his hands up rather than hang out to dry the next bloke down the chain of command.... Can't have it both ways
the manager takes ultimate responsibility for a shit team,not just because he picks the 11, but also he recomends who we sign.........the sort of player who can do a job..fit in to his plans and ideas.........having it both ways is wanting to blame anyone other than the manager in this case..............malky fucked up on a world class scale....period...if you want to blame lim a steward or a tea lady because you have malky wallpaper carry on.........
Already said malky fucked up ( see earlier post) , lim is ultimately responsible for signing off the contract , ffs he should also have been involved in the contract talks and known the type of wages available ( and not available) he signed the cheque and witnessed the contract as club representative,,,,
Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:02 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:27 pm
GrangeEndStar wrote:And now we are lead story for BBC football:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26174851
Just who does the clubs PR? Mr Bean?
Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:28 pm
Valley Lad wrote:Perfect timing again, wouldn't it be great to be in the News for a positive reason?
Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:35 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:02 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:04 pm
Bluebird1977 wrote:Only at cardiff city you will find that the club releases a statement moaning about over spending money when the guy who is releasing the statement is the guy who signed the checks to poxy start with..............f**k me do the club even think before releasing such things, obviously not ..........CLASSIC
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:04 pm
Jinks wrote:Everyone stop stop crying and support the team.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:08 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Jinks wrote:Everyone stop stop crying and support the team.
Yes Jinks your right, tell the Clowns to as well.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:12 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Jinks wrote:Everyone stop stop crying and support the team.
Yes Jinks your right, tell the Clowns to as well.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:16 pm
Jinks wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Jinks wrote:Everyone stop stop crying and support the team.
Yes Jinks your right, tell the Clowns to as well.
What clowns?
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:19 pm
Valley Lad wrote:Perfect timing again, wouldn't it be great to be in the News for a positive reason?
The two Clowns Tan and Lim dont know the meaning of positive, just divide and strip and ridicule.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:40 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Jinks wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Jinks wrote:Everyone stop stop crying and support the team.
Yes Jinks your right, tell the Clowns to as well.
What clowns?
Tan and Lim,the double act.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:40 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:42 pm
soulofthesea wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:soulofthesea wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:bluebird58 wrote:If Simon Lim signed off on those deals, particularly the Cornelius one, on the so-called expertise of Malky and Moody, then they are clearly to blame and should be sacked or otherwise disciplined. Any business pays its managers to manage, and when they cock up, as they did badly with this one deal, then they have to suffer the consequences.
Malky and Moody were either stupid or conned over the Cornelius deal. Someone somewhere has made a financial killing over it, and taken money from the club. No wonder Mr Tan was pissed off over it, I'm pissed off over it! We could have used that £8.5 million for a couple of decent players for now rather than the future.
Any pay out due to Malky should be set against a percentage of the £8.5m he cost the club.
Yes it was a judgement call by the manager and a poor one at that, HOWEVER, it's a managers job to nag and cajole the chairman into spending more and more money, into buying bigger and better players, into purchasing better facilities for those players and staff and ,if he felt he could get away with it, into getting gold plated bog roll holders in the training ground changing rooms! It's the RESPONSIBILITY of the chairman/ chief exec and subsequently the board, to reign in managers expectations for the financial good of the club and balance everything up...
I'm sorry , but this whole situation is the fault of Lim, the board and ultimately TAN
And if Tan had vetoed the deal I bet you would be the first to slam him for interfering
We wouldn't have known would we?
In the same way as a manager takes ultimate responsibility for a shit team performance then the bloke who signs off ridiculous contracts like acorns should man up and hold his hands up rather than hang out to dry the next bloke down the chain of command.... Can't have it both ways
the manager takes ultimate responsibility for a shit team,not just because he picks the 11, but also he recomends who we sign.........the sort of player who can do a job..fit in to his plans and ideas.........having it both ways is wanting to blame anyone other than the manager in this case..............malky fucked up on a world class scale....period...if you want to blame lim a steward or a tea lady because you have malky wallpaper carry on.........
Already said malky fucked up ( see earlier post) , lim is ultimately responsible for signing off the contract , ffs he should also have been involved in the contract talks and known the type of wages available ( and not available) he signed the cheque and witnessed the contract as club representative,,,,
45k isnt a ridiculous amount for a prem striker...Kjones is and has been on more.............ffs this oh lim should have done this or that...ok your rite...so dont give malky any credit for promotion either..cos lim had the final say eh
Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:52 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:10 pm
Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:21 pm
Bakedalasker wrote:Think people are now seeing the mentality of these guys.
I pick up on this when they came out with the forensic accountancy episode. I said there was no need for it but people accused me of just
sticking for Sam. Wonder what the same people are thinking now?
Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:43 pm
soulofthesea wrote:its way to early to be making such positive remarks about Ole and his signings.
but as regards Lim signing off on contracts, yes of course he did,someone has to at every club, its on the strength of what the management team have told them.........if C.E.O s and chairmen watched videos and scouted and had the football knowhow to judge players values to a particular club,well we wouldnt need managers or head of recruitment to start with......
big mistakes were made by Malky and Moody..........was Lim to not trust their judgement?
Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:45 pm
dannyblue wrote:COMPARED TO EARLIER CIRCUS PERFORMANCES TANS EASY.
The club was a far bigger circus when it was allowing the thugs of the 70.s 80.s etc to run riot that cost us a generation of support.The Dictator Hammans time when we were bigger than Barca going to fill the millennium stadium. The Ridsdale watch when we owed every Tom Dick and Harry a fortune. Just a few to mention.
MM made it clear he was in total charge of everything football Inc. Staff and recruitment.it wasn't just the one player but 3 or 4 that were terrible business and a huge waste
The statement could have been far more damping to both MM. Moody.
Putting up with lot above was a far bigger nightmare than Tan.
Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:54 pm
BracklaBlue72 wrote:soulofthesea wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:soulofthesea wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:CraigCCFC wrote:BracklaBlue72 wrote:bluebird58 wrote:If Simon Lim signed off on those deals, particularly the Cornelius one, on the so-called expertise of Malky and Moody, then they are clearly to blame and should be sacked or otherwise disciplined. Any business pays its managers to manage, and when they cock up, as they did badly with this one deal, then they have to suffer the consequences.
Malky and Moody were either stupid or conned over the Cornelius deal. Someone somewhere has made a financial killing over it, and taken money from the club. No wonder Mr Tan was pissed off over it, I'm pissed off over it! We could have used that £8.5 million for a couple of decent players for now rather than the future.
Any pay out due to Malky should be set against a percentage of the £8.5m he cost the club.
Yes it was a judgement call by the manager and a poor one at that, HOWEVER, it's a managers job to nag and cajole the chairman into spending more and more money, into buying bigger and better players, into purchasing better facilities for those players and staff and ,if he felt he could get away with it, into getting gold plated bog roll holders in the training ground changing rooms! It's the RESPONSIBILITY of the chairman/ chief exec and subsequently the board, to reign in managers expectations for the financial good of the club and balance everything up...
I'm sorry , but this whole situation is the fault of Lim, the board and ultimately TAN
And if Tan had vetoed the deal I bet you would be the first to slam him for interfering
We wouldn't have known would we?
In the same way as a manager takes ultimate responsibility for a shit team performance then the bloke who signs off ridiculous contracts like acorns should man up and hold his hands up rather than hang out to dry the next bloke down the chain of command.... Can't have it both ways
the manager takes ultimate responsibility for a shit team,not just because he picks the 11, but also he recomends who we sign.........the sort of player who can do a job..fit in to his plans and ideas.........having it both ways is wanting to blame anyone other than the manager in this case..............malky fucked up on a world class scale....period...if you want to blame lim a steward or a tea lady because you have malky wallpaper carry on.........
Already said malky fucked up ( see earlier post) , lim is ultimately responsible for signing off the contract , ffs he should also have been involved in the contract talks and known the type of wages available ( and not available) he signed the cheque and witnessed the contract as club representative,,,,
45k isnt a ridiculous amount for a prem striker...Kjones is and has been on more.............ffs this oh lim should have done this or that...ok your rite...so dont give malky any credit for promotion either..cos lim had the final say eh
Mate, got to say , I genuinely don't know what the f**k you are talking about