Carl Curtis: " Utterly Unnecessary and Disrespectful "

I agree but it's a lot of tit for tat

In reality if we were playing in blue Malky would be getting slaughtered for his transfer signings in the summer.
You can't have it both ways you can't rightly say that tan and lim are clueless about football and then in the next breath blame them for signing the deal off.
At the end of the day they put their faith and considerable amounts of money in moody and Malky regarding transfers as they were the experts with the supposed three stage dossiers used to decide if a player was suitable.
Like I say all about agendas and if we were in blue and not rebranded Malky and moody would be getting caned for wasting club money on corny odenwingie and brayford

agree
the hatred for Tan by the few knows no bounds and defies any reason ...like everyone that supports and loves the club ive always used the terms WE, and OUR as regards Cardiff City...........most fans do, but this wasted 10million?..im pissed off our club has wasted 10mil............the Malky apologists who under every other regime would also have this personal slant on it,now just see it as Tans money........i hope Malky takes Tan to the cleaners????????????????? type thinking......its not whats best for the club anymore its what is best for their agenda.........
im not so sure about being blue being the fix anymore either.........there have been anti Tan threads and conspiracy theories on here this week that have blown my mind.........the way things are going scares me tbh

I agree but it's a lot of tit for tat

In reality if we were playing in blue Malky would be getting slaughtered for his transfer signings in the summer.
You can't have it both ways you can't rightly say that tan and lim are clueless about football and then in the next breath blame them for signing the deal off.
At the end of the day they put their faith and considerable amounts of money in moody and Malky regarding transfers as they were the experts with the supposed three stage dossiers used to decide if a player was suitable.
Like I say all about agendas and if we were in blue and not rebranded Malky and moody would be getting caned for wasting club money on corny odenwingie and brayford

Totally agree with your comments Steve. Carl has given a totally one sided view on this issue.

I have given my opinion not a one sided view, I strongly disagree with Steve Davies, Malky Mackay whether or not we are playing in red, blue or purple has been treated disgracefully and that is what my column is about.

People have their agendas but I have always remained balanced and fair regarding Tan and the rebrand so don't suggest otherwise thanks.

Carl, I can see what SD is saying but in essence I presume your article thought wasn't regards MM himself , but the way the situation has been handled and in the public domain ?

SD - to be fair to the person being hung out to dry in the public domain, you probably know better than I and I know you weren't a fan of his football, whilst others were promoting from the board on twitter that he was Cardiff City's greatest ever manager, but in fairness he did get the club to the premiership and sustaining a just above relegation position on in premiership standards a small


Steve

As far as I am concerned this is another shot in the foot from tan and lim. In essence they are quite right to point the finger at Malky and moody over the poor transfer dealings but that is in the boardroom and at the AGM.
If they felt this way Malky and moody should have been sacked at the same time.
On the footballing front we had a great start in the championship winning our first 10 home games but as the finishing line came closer the football became increasingly dour and unattractive to watch but Malky has my utmost respect for what he achieved.
I stand by my comment that if we were not rebranded the usual suspects would be giving grief to Malky over wasting the clubs money.
I was not knocking carls views but I would say as others have pointed out his good friend Sam has endorsed the Malaysians behaviour but escapes any comment bearing in mind he is the clubs life president.
If steve borley came out and endorsed lims behaviour he would rightly get slaughtered but good friend Sam gets a free pass.

If there truly is no bias and agenda the Forum will now say Sam Hamman is a disgrace and a nothing more than puppet.
So much media and hard work done on his behalf to get him 'his?' money and he has stabbed friends badly in the back.
There is not a shame in admitting you are wrong. But as far as Hamman is concerning they were wrong. badly. he has
shown his true colours once more

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He wont comment incase Sam puts him on the naughty step

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

Sam is a parasite that saddled us with our historic debt, he's got some front to blame Malky, his transfer dealings were shocking

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He wont comment incase Sam puts him on the naughty step

Jinks, I will comment.

I totally Disagree with Sams comments/interview and I do not support them one bit.

Sam is my friend,But I dont have to agree with him,Ive never been his lap dog, I am my own person and always have been.

When the news of Malkys ultimatum came out,
didn't washing our laundry in public cause lord tan to pout?

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He wont comment incase Sam puts him on the naughty step

Jinks, I will comment.

I totally Disagree with Sams comments/interview and I do not support them one bit.

Sam is my friend,But I dont have to agree with him,Ive never been his lap dog, I am my own person and always have been.

It is noticable that Hamman has only made statements since Presidency to back up Vincent Tan.
To most it seems to order. as and when Tan wants him to. theory that he is still owed maybe one
or two million and until he gets it has no problem at all standing alongside Tan against his most loyal friends in
Wales. No wonder you are unhappy. you must feel betrayed.

I agree but it's a lot of tit for tat

In reality if we were playing in blue Malky would be getting slaughtered for his transfer signings in the summer.
You can't have it both ways you can't rightly say that tan and lim are clueless about football and then in the next breath blame them for signing the deal off.
At the end of the day they put their faith and considerable amounts of money in moody and Malky regarding transfers as they were the experts with the supposed three stage dossiers used to decide if a player was suitable.
Like I say all about agendas and if we were in blue and not rebranded Malky and moody would be getting caned for wasting club money on corny odenwingie and brayford

agree
the hatred for Tan by the few knows no bounds and defies any reason ...like everyone that supports and loves the club ive always used the terms WE, and OUR as regards Cardiff City...........most fans do, but this wasted 10million?..im pissed off our club has wasted 10mil............the Malky apologists who under every other regime would also have this personal slant on it,now just see it as Tans money........i hope Malky takes Tan to the cleaners????????????????? type thinking......its not whats best for the club anymore its what is best for their agenda.........
im not so sure about being blue being the fix anymore either.........there have been anti Tan threads and conspiracy theories on here this week that have blown my mind.........the way things are going scares me tbh

Or to sum up your thoughts another way, you turned a blind eye whilst Tan disrespected our club, fans and Malky and now you finally realise that Tan is a complete wanker after all and you are embarrassed at not spotting it sooner.

It is noticable that Hamman has only made statements since Presidency to back up Vincent Tan.
To most it seems to order. as and when Tan wants him to. theory that he is still owed maybe one
or two million and until he gets it has no problem at all standing alongside Tan against his most loyal friends in
Wales. No wonder you are unhappy. you must feel betrayed.

He is still owed millions despite what you read in the media of the supposed hero tan paying him in full

It is noticable that Hamman has only made statements since Presidency to back up Vincent Tan.
To most it seems to order. as and when Tan wants him to. theory that he is still owed maybe one
or two million and until he gets it has no problem at all standing alongside Tan against his most loyal friends in
Wales. No wonder you are unhappy. you must feel betrayed.

He is still owed millions despite what you read in the media of the supposed hero tan paying him in full

I thought we all knew he hadn't been paid off in full yet

It is noticable that Hamman has only made statements since Presidency to back up Vincent Tan.
To most it seems to order. as and when Tan wants him to. theory that he is still owed maybe one
or two million and until he gets it has no problem at all standing alongside Tan against his most loyal friends in
Wales. No wonder you are unhappy. you must feel betrayed.

He is still owed millions despite what you read in the media of the supposed hero tan paying him in full

I thought we all knew he hadn't been paid off in full yet

The media suggests he has and fans praise tan for it when in reality hes given him a wedge and the rest is being payed over years on end by that time tan will be gone i hope but we will still be paying the loans hes lumping us

On the bright side Carl, at least this gave you an excuse not to mention the South Wales Derby mauling

It is noticable that Hamman has only made statements since Presidency to back up Vincent Tan.
To most it seems to order. as and when Tan wants him to. theory that he is still owed maybe one
or two million and until he gets it has no problem at all standing alongside Tan against his most loyal friends in
Wales. No wonder you are unhappy. you must feel betrayed.

He is still owed millions despite what you read in the media of the supposed hero tan paying him in full

supposed hero Tan? i think Tan is bad very bad! but to see Hamman prostituting himself and make
statements for Tan whenever needed must be the worst kick in the teeth for everyone who said Hamman
was a good man. he has sold friends up the river yet still stays free from attack? strange.

It is noticable that Hamman has only made statements since Presidency to back up Vincent Tan.
To most it seems to order. as and when Tan wants him to. theory that he is still owed maybe one
or two million and until he gets it has no problem at all standing alongside Tan against his most loyal friends in
Wales. No wonder you are unhappy. you must feel betrayed.

He is still owed millions despite what you read in the media of the supposed hero tan paying him in full

supposed hero Tan? i think Tan is bad very bad! but to see Hamman prostituting himself and make
statements for Tan whenever needed must be the worst kick in the teeth for everyone who said Hamman
was a good man. he has sold friends up the river yet still stays free from attack? strange.

Money talks , money talks

Carl Curtis: Cardiff City dig at Malky Mackay was utterly unnecessary and disrespectful
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ig-6712153

Bluebirds fan Carl Curtis hits out at the latest unsavoury statement from the club's heierarchy


What purpose did Thursday’s statement by Simon Lim serve? Other than being critical of Malky Mackay and Iain Moody’s transfer policy. Surely this type of statement belongs at the AGM and not when we are entering the final twelve games of our maiden Premier League season whilst battling against relegation.


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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foot ... ig-6712153

Our hierarchy are a joke. Lim is tans puppet and I wouldn't trust him to run a bath let alone a football club. As for tan then I have no respect for him. He has destroyed our club and divided our fan base .

Gareth
I totally agree, they have not got a clue about football Gareth. They are unprofessional and have no respect for no one.
I still cant believe people stick up for Tan or Lim.

In fairness there was a time when a huge number of fans wondered why you and Carl etc. stuck up for SH.

Cynics would say you have it in for Tan so much because you are very much on the outside now as opposed to SH you were on the inside....of sorts.

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

A very politically correct reply. The real question is i think Do you find Hammans comments disgraceful?
And are you willing to post as much here? It is a key word. You did not just say just you {disagree} with Tan.
You called his comments and Lims disgraceful. So surely Sam to totally endorse their words is a disgrace also?

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

A very politically correct reply. The real question is i think Do you find Hammans comments disgraceful?
And are you willing to post as much here? It is a key word. You did not just say just you {disagree} with Tan.
You called his comments and Lims disgraceful. So surely Sam to totally endorse their words is a disgrace also?

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

A very politically correct reply. The real question is i think Do you find Hammans comments disgraceful?
And are you willing to post as much here? It is a key word. You did not just say just you {disagree} with Tan.
You called his comments and Lims disgraceful. So surely Sam to totally endorse their words is a disgrace also?

I {disagree} with what Adolf Hitler and Pol Pot did But would perhaps word my opinions of them more strongly

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

A very politically correct reply. The real question is i think Do you find Hammans comments disgraceful?
And are you willing to post as much here? It is a key word. You did not just say just you {disagree} with Tan.
You called his comments and Lims disgraceful. So surely Sam to totally endorse their words is a disgrace also?

Disgraceful ?

I can't see where I called the comments by Tan or Lim disgraceful ?

I wrote that on first reading the recent statement I thought it smacked of immaturity.

I have written that I disagree with Sam on his comments too.

Go and stir your pot somewhere else.

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

A very politically correct reply. The real question is i think Do you find Hammans comments disgraceful?
And are you willing to post as much here? It is a key word. You did not just say just you {disagree} with Tan.
You called his comments and Lims disgraceful. So surely Sam to totally endorse their words is a disgrace also?

Disgraceful ?

I can't see where I called the comments by Tan or Lim disgraceful ?

I wrote that on first reading the recent statement I thought it smacked of immaturity.

I have written that I disagree with Sam on his comments too.

Go and stir your pot somewhere else.

You said in the media Tan was disrespectful for speaking out about Malky so surely you think the same of Sam then? Are you planning to write a story calling sam disrespectful in the media? ( Stirs the pot )

This smacks 100% of the club laying the foundations down for relegation, so they can use Malky as their big excuse as we go down. Instead of taking responsibility themselves, Lim is a no mark puppet, who knows nothing about our club and cares even less

Simon, I think you might be right here, they are trying to make Malky the scapegoat, yet We all know why were are in this mess from top to bottom, Dictator Tan and his Clowns have stripped this club of its identity, put us £150mill in debt and divided us, plus made us the laughing stock of the world.

thats not why we are doing poorly off the pitch though is in annis?

This smacks 100% of the club laying the foundations down for relegation, so they can use Malky as their big excuse as we go down. Instead of taking responsibility themselves, Lim is a no mark puppet, who knows nothing about our club and cares even less

Simon, I think you might be right here, they are trying to make Malky the scapegoat, yet We all know why were are in this mess from top to bottom, Dictator Tan and his Clowns have stripped this club of its identity, put us £150mill in debt and divided us, plus made us the laughing stock of the world.

thats not why we are doing poorly off the pitch though is in annis?

*on the pitch even

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

A very politically correct reply. The real question is i think Do you find Hammans comments disgraceful?
And are you willing to post as much here? It is a key word. You did not just say just you {disagree} with Tan.
You called his comments and Lims disgraceful. So surely Sam to totally endorse their words is a disgrace also?

Disgraceful ?

I can't see where I called the comments by Tan or Lim disgraceful ?

I wrote that on first reading the recent statement I thought it smacked of immaturity.

I have written that I disagree with Sam on his comments too.

Go and stir your pot somewhere else.

Have you banned him?

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

A very politically correct reply. The real question is i think Do you find Hammans comments disgraceful?
And are you willing to post as much here? It is a key word. You did not just say just you {disagree} with Tan.
You called his comments and Lims disgraceful. So surely Sam to totally endorse their words is a disgrace also?

Disgraceful ?

I can't see where I called the comments by Tan or Lim disgraceful ?

I wrote that on first reading the recent statement I thought it smacked of immaturity.

I have written that I disagree with Sam on his comments too.

Go and stir your pot somewhere else.

You said in the media Tan was disrespectful for speaking out about Malky so surely you think the same of Sam then? Are you planning to write a story calling sam disrespectful in the media? ( Stirs the pot )

Jinks, the headline (which I don't write used the word disrespectful. I wrote that it smacked of immaturity.

And no I haven't banned him either.

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

A very politically correct reply. The real question is i think Do you find Hammans comments disgraceful?
And are you willing to post as much here? It is a key word. You did not just say just you {disagree} with Tan.
You called his comments and Lims disgraceful. So surely Sam to totally endorse their words is a disgrace also?

Disgraceful ?

I can't see where I called the comments by Tan or Lim disgraceful ?

I wrote that on first reading the recent statement I thought it smacked of immaturity.

I have written that I disagree with Sam on his comments too.

Go and stir your pot somewhere else.

Tan and Lim made shocking statement against Mackay. You rightly condemned them in the Welsh Media as Utterly
Unecessary and Disrespectful. You wrote a scathing article. All i asked as a question was - why does Hamman escape
with no more than -I Disagree-. why no scathing article against a man who has betrays you? You fought for his corner
against Tan for over year on this Forum and in the Media. Now he works as a hired mouthpiece for Tan. and all you
can say is you disagree? Stirring a pot? Its fair questions

Sam Hammam comments were disgraceful I agree. Don't you think so Carl ?

He is perhaps afraid to voice displeasure at Sam? still no answer days later

Nonsense.

I have discussed and debated the subject of Malky, the transfer fees, players wages, Malky's sacking and many other things related to Malky with Sam for months, I have told Sam that like he was responsible for finances of our club when he was owner, then Vincent Tan is responsible today.

So in short I disagree with Sam's opinion on who was responsible and who should shoulder the blame.

A very politically correct reply. The real question is i think Do you find Hammans comments disgraceful?
And are you willing to post as much here? It is a key word. You did not just say just you {disagree} with Tan.
You called his comments and Lims disgraceful. So surely Sam to totally endorse their words is a disgrace also?

Disgraceful ?

I can't see where I called the comments by Tan or Lim disgraceful ?

I wrote that on first reading the recent statement I thought it smacked of immaturity.

I have written that I disagree with Sam on his comments too.

Go and stir your pot somewhere else.

Have you banned him?

No ban. No answer too. Tan must wonder why he gets all of the flak and Lim. yet
Hamman who said exactly the same as them only gets 'I Disagree'