Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:19 pm
Jenks wrote:Just another player to have a go at, Marshall been outstanding this season, 1st goal was a freak goal just like ours, if our defending was better we would keep clean sheets,
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:22 pm
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:23 pm
Jenks wrote:Just another player to have a go at, Marshall been outstanding this season, 1st goal was a freak goal just like ours, if our defending was better we would keep clean sheets,
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:23 pm
Jenks wrote:No I don't agree, 1st goal was a one off, last goal they came through to easy like the 2nd goal
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:24 pm
Forever Blue wrote:FULL PREMIER LEAGUE TABLE UPDATED viewtopic.php?f=2&t=121450
To me that was shocking, any club that gives away two goals against a poor West Brom team in eight minutes are always going to be on the back foot and the odds were always going to be stacked against us to get those three points.
My biggest worry is,yes we can score goals but we certainly know how to concede sloppy ones and the defence in my opinion has not improved one bit and has actually got worse and that is going to be Ole's downfall.
I thought for the first 30 minutes we were clueless all over the pitch and thankfully some could say a wonder goal others might say different but Mutch's goal put us right back in it, I have always said going in at half time to get yourself back in the game is everything and fair play somehow we had managed it, I had been dreading if they had scored the third.
For the first time in months, I feel David Marshall had a nightmare of a game, he was responsible for their first goal and after a great equaliser by Stephen Caulker, Marshall was totally to blame for West Brom's third.
Just a few players I am going to mention, Zaha's moments of brilliance but once again only in patches, I thought Bellamy was everywhere without achieving anything, Campbell was everywhere as he usually is but no end product, Gunnarsson was well below par.
To me Daehli who only played 45 minutes of the game was my man of the match not just for his great goal which made it 3-3 in the dying seconds and sent the City fans into raptures but I felt he kept opening up the game and his passing and his runs were all spot on, it took a youngster to drive the team forward.
I feel a lot of those players need to look at themselves and Ole needs to sort that defence out ASAP otherwise we are going down, it is well and truly out of our hands,six games left and we have to win at least three or four games to stay, can it be done ? Personally to me it looks impossible but as City fans we have always got to believe until it is impossible.
We have to beat Crystal Palace, Stoke, Sunderland and Southampton or Newcastle and still hope that other teams mess up, our fans were amazing today and they are the ones who deserved the equaliser to make it 3-3
Fair play to Ole, when he came over at the end I loved seeing the passion and heart in him and the care he showed towards us but is that enough to keep us up?
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:30 pm
Forever Blue wrote:LonCar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
But you have to admit Ole knows how to get the players scoring goals 6 goals in 2 games Malky was clueless regarding our attack though, so i think we call it even and just get behind the team forget about this manager competition for now
Yes plenty of goals, but if we score the oposition will score as many or on most occasions more, so at that ratio, we can only go down and that means failure and come May if Ole fails, City's attendances will be at least 10,000 down next season and we will be a Championship side thanks to Ole's exciting football but terrible tactics which win no prizes at the end of it and that's what really matters in football, a fact.
Ole has also yet to get even a point of a top 10 team , where as nearly all the other teams in the bottom half can get points and many have beaten top 10 teams. Also I can never forget the Swansea and Hull humiliations . Top bloke Ole, nice genuine man, very passionate but sadly way out of his depth in the Premier League.
Hopefully come May, I will be wrong
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:34 pm
Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:34 pm
Jinks wrote:Forever Blue wrote:FULL PREMIER LEAGUE TABLE UPDATED viewtopic.php?f=2&t=121450
To me that was shocking, any club that gives away two goals against a poor West Brom team in eight minutes are always going to be on the back foot and the odds were always going to be stacked against us to get those three points.
My biggest worry is,yes we can score goals but we certainly know how to concede sloppy ones and the defence in my opinion has not improved one bit and has actually got worse and that is going to be Ole's downfall.
I thought for the first 30 minutes we were clueless all over the pitch and thankfully some could say a wonder goal others might say different but Mutch's goal put us right back in it, I have always said going in at half time to get yourself back in the game is everything and fair play somehow we had managed it, I had been dreading if they had scored the third.
For the first time in months, I feel David Marshall had a nightmare of a game, he was responsible for their first goal and after a great equaliser by Stephen Caulker, Marshall was totally to blame for West Brom's third.
Just a few players I am going to mention, Zaha's moments of brilliance but once again only in patches, I thought Bellamy was everywhere without achieving anything, Campbell was everywhere as he usually is but no end product, Gunnarsson was well below par.
To me Daehli who only played 45 minutes of the game was my man of the match not just for his great goal which made it 3-3 in the dying seconds and sent the City fans into raptures but I felt he kept opening up the game and his passing and his runs were all spot on, it took a youngster to drive the team forward.
I feel a lot of those players need to look at themselves and Ole needs to sort that defence out ASAP otherwise we are going down, it is well and truly out of our hands,six games left and we have to win at least three or four games to stay, can it be done ? Personally to me it looks impossible but as City fans we have always got to believe until it is impossible.
We have to beat Crystal Palace, Stoke, Sunderland and Southampton or Newcastle and still hope that other teams mess up, our fans were amazing today and they are the ones who deserved the equaliser to make it 3-3
Fair play to Ole, when he came over at the end I loved seeing the passion and heart in him and the care he showed towards us but is that enough to keep us up?
Ole mentioned the fans on Sky Sports Annis i honestly believe in Ole's way of playing we just need to give him time whether it will be in the premier or championship next season we will have some great football to watch
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:35 pm
BillyLiar wrote:Jenks wrote:Just another player to have a go at, Marshall been outstanding this season, 1st goal was a freak goal just like ours, if our defending was better we would keep clean sheets,
Best goalkeeper in the Premier League this season without a shadow of doubt
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:37 pm
Forever Blue wrote:BillyLiar wrote:Jenks wrote:Just another player to have a go at, Marshall been outstanding this season, 1st goal was a freak goal just like ours, if our defending was better we would keep clean sheets,
Best goalkeeper in the Premier League this season without a shadow of doubt
Def top 5 Premier Goalie this season
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:39 pm
Forever Blue wrote:LonCar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
But you have to admit Ole knows how to get the players scoring goals 6 goals in 2 games Malky was clueless regarding our attack though, so i think we call it even and just get behind the team forget about this manager competition for now
Yes plenty of goals, but if we score the oposition will score as many or on most occasions more, so at that ratio, we can only go down and that means failure and come May if Ole fails, City's attendances will be at least 10,000 down next season and we will be a Championship side thanks to Ole's exciting football but terrible tactics which win no prizes at the end of it and that's what really matters in football, a fact.
Ole has also yet to get even a point of a top 10 team , where as nearly all the other teams in the bottom half can get points and many have beaten top 10 teams. Also I can never forget the Swansea and Hull humiliations . Top bloke Ole, nice genuine man, very passionate but sadly way out of his depth in the Premier League.
Hopefully come May, I will be wrong
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:40 pm
NJ73 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:BillyLiar wrote:Jenks wrote:Just another player to have a go at, Marshall been outstanding this season, 1st goal was a freak goal just like ours, if our defending was better we would keep clean sheets,
Best goalkeeper in the Premier League this season without a shadow of doubt
Def top 5 Premier Goalie this season
I should think so with the amount of practice he gets
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:42 pm
Jinks wrote:Forever Blue wrote:LonCar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
But you have to admit Ole knows how to get the players scoring goals 6 goals in 2 games Malky was clueless regarding our attack though, so i think we call it even and just get behind the team forget about this manager competition for now
Yes plenty of goals, but if we score the oposition will score as many or on most occasions more, so at that ratio, we can only go down and that means failure and come May if Ole fails, City's attendances will be at least 10,000 down next season and we will be a Championship side thanks to Ole's exciting football but terrible tactics which win no prizes at the end of it and that's what really matters in football, a fact.
Ole has also yet to get even a point of a top 10 team , where as nearly all the other teams in the bottom half can get points and many have beaten top 10 teams. Also I can never forget the Swansea and Hull humiliations . Top bloke Ole, nice genuine man, very passionate but sadly way out of his depth in the Premier League.
Hopefully come May, I will be wrong
You could be describing Malky there to Annis.
Everytime we fail to win why do i detect you seem to enjoy having a pop at our manager i bet your dying to say i told you so if we go down?
Oles been here since january and has had to work with a team that only one way of playing and that was park the bus every game and play hoof ball. Its surely only fair to judge him when he's had a few transfer windows to bring his own players in like you wanted fans to do when Malky took over from Jones
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:44 pm
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:44 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Jinks wrote:Forever Blue wrote:LonCar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
But you have to admit Ole knows how to get the players scoring goals 6 goals in 2 games Malky was clueless regarding our attack though, so i think we call it even and just get behind the team forget about this manager competition for now
Yes plenty of goals, but if we score the oposition will score as many or on most occasions more, so at that ratio, we can only go down and that means failure and come May if Ole fails, City's attendances will be at least 10,000 down next season and we will be a Championship side thanks to Ole's exciting football but terrible tactics which win no prizes at the end of it and that's what really matters in football, a fact.
Ole has also yet to get even a point of a top 10 team , where as nearly all the other teams in the bottom half can get points and many have beaten top 10 teams. Also I can never forget the Swansea and Hull humiliations . Top bloke Ole, nice genuine man, very passionate but sadly way out of his depth in the Premier League.
Hopefully come May, I will be wrong
You could be describing Malky there to Annis.
Everytime we fail to win why do i detect you seem to enjoy having a pop at our manager i bet your dying to say i told you so if we go down?
Oles been here since january and has had to work with a team that only one way of playing and that was park the bus every game and play hoof ball. Its surely only fair to judge him when he's had a few transfer windows to bring his own players in like you wanted fans to do when Malky took over from Jones
Jinks 100% def do not like having a pop at Ole, I honestly like him, but the results prove why I am saying my strong opinions regarding Ole's tactics,
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:45 pm
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:45 pm
Forever Blue wrote:NJ73 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:BillyLiar wrote:Jenks wrote:Just another player to have a go at, Marshall been outstanding this season, 1st goal was a freak goal just like ours, if our defending was better we would keep clean sheets,
Best goalkeeper in the Premier League this season without a shadow of doubt
Def top 5 Premier Goalie this season
I should think so with the amount of practice he gets
Fair play NJ uve proved me wrong for the 2nd season running your staying up.
Sat Mar 29, 2014 7:46 pm
Forever Blue wrote:LonCar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
But you have to admit Ole knows how to get the players scoring goals 6 goals in 2 games Malky was clueless regarding our attack though, so i think we call it even and just get behind the team forget about this manager competition for now
Ole has also yet to get even a point of a top 10 team , where as nearly all the other teams in the bottom half can get points and many have beaten top 10 teams. Also I can never forget the Swansea and Hull humiliations . Top bloke Ole, nice genuine man, very passionate but sadly way out of his depth in the Premier League.
Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:08 pm
Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:19 pm
Jinks wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Jinks wrote:Forever Blue wrote:LonCar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
But you have to admit Ole knows how to get the players scoring goals 6 goals in 2 games Malky was clueless regarding our attack though, so i think we call it even and just get behind the team forget about this manager competition for now
Yes plenty of goals, but if we score the oposition will score as many or on most occasions more, so at that ratio, we can only go down and that means failure and come May if Ole fails, City's attendances will be at least 10,000 down next season and we will be a Championship side thanks to Ole's exciting football but terrible tactics which win no prizes at the end of it and that's what really matters in football, a fact.
Ole has also yet to get even a point of a top 10 team , where as nearly all the other teams in the bottom half can get points and many have beaten top 10 teams. Also I can never forget the Swansea and Hull humiliations . Top bloke Ole, nice genuine man, very passionate but sadly way out of his depth in the Premier League.
Hopefully come May, I will be wrong
You could be describing Malky there to Annis.
Everytime we fail to win why do i detect you seem to enjoy having a pop at our manager i bet your dying to say i told you so if we go down?
Oles been here since january and has had to work with a team that only one way of playing and that was park the bus every game and play hoof ball. Its surely only fair to judge him when he's had a few transfer windows to bring his own players in like you wanted fans to do when Malky took over from Jones
Jinks 100% def do not like having a pop at Ole, I honestly like him, but the results prove why I am saying my strong opinions regarding Ole's tactics,
Maybe but could it mean he needs time and a decent transfer window before being judged? you gave malky a few but ole 10 or 12 games? surely one rule for one means the same rule for another?
Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:44 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Jinks wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Jinks wrote:Forever Blue wrote:LonCar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
But you have to admit Ole knows how to get the players scoring goals 6 goals in 2 games Malky was clueless regarding our attack though, so i think we call it even and just get behind the team forget about this manager competition for now
Yes plenty of goals, but if we score the oposition will score as many or on most occasions more, so at that ratio, we can only go down and that means failure and come May if Ole fails, City's attendances will be at least 10,000 down next season and we will be a Championship side thanks to Ole's exciting football but terrible tactics which win no prizes at the end of it and that's what really matters in football, a fact.
Ole has also yet to get even a point of a top 10 team , where as nearly all the other teams in the bottom half can get points and many have beaten top 10 teams. Also I can never forget the Swansea and Hull humiliations . Top bloke Ole, nice genuine man, very passionate but sadly way out of his depth in the Premier League.
Hopefully come May, I will be wrong
You could be describing Malky there to Annis.
Everytime we fail to win why do i detect you seem to enjoy having a pop at our manager i bet your dying to say i told you so if we go down?
Oles been here since january and has had to work with a team that only one way of playing and that was park the bus every game and play hoof ball. Its surely only fair to judge him when he's had a few transfer windows to bring his own players in like you wanted fans to do when Malky took over from Jones
Jinks 100% def do not like having a pop at Ole, I honestly like him, but the results prove why I am saying my strong opinions regarding Ole's tactics,
Maybe but could it mean he needs time and a decent transfer window before being judged? you gave malky a few but ole 10 or 12 games? surely one rule for one means the same rule for another?
Jinks I know I have sort of judged him this season, but to be fair I would be happy to give Ole a full season next season and see how he does, as Ive said before Ole is still learning
Sat Mar 29, 2014 8:58 pm
castleblue wrote:BillyLiar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
Our defence was just as shit under Malky as it is under Ole the stats say so
Today was the 12th league match with OGS in charge of the team and we have collected 8 of the 36 points available, scoring 14 goals, conceding 29 goals, failing to score in 6 games and keeping 1 clean sheet.
In MM last 12 games in charge we collected 9 of the 36 points available, scoring 7 goals, conceding 21 goals, failing to score in 6 games and keeping clean sheets in 2 games.
So when Annis says we have a shocking defence you can sort of see where he is coming from. But one thing is certain we are carrying far more goal threat under OGS than we ever were under MM.
Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:02 pm
Blue Legend wrote:castleblue wrote:BillyLiar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
Our defence was just as shit under Malky as it is under Ole the stats say so
Today was the 12th league match with OGS in charge of the team and we have collected 8 of the 36 points available, scoring 14 goals, conceding 29 goals, failing to score in 6 games and keeping 1 clean sheet.
In MM last 12 games in charge we collected 9 of the 36 points available, scoring 7 goals, conceding 21 goals, failing to score in 6 games and keeping clean sheets in 2 games.
So when Annis says we have a shocking defence you can sort of see where he is coming from. But one thing is certain we are carrying far more goal threat under OGS than we ever were under MM.
What people are missing on those stats is that in Malky's last 12 games we scored 1 goal to every 3 conceded
Under OGS we have scored 1 goal to every 2 conceded.
So to those who think we would have stayed up under MM I say Bullshit
Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:12 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Blue Legend wrote:castleblue wrote:BillyLiar wrote:Forever Blue wrote:troobloo3339 wrote:But it's the same players do you really think ole sends them out to switch off like they do
And yes I do sing that but also sing lots of other songs unlike you
Malky until Tan hammered him always had a mean defence and u have to admit Ole is clueless regarding our defence, honesty please
Our defence was just as shit under Malky as it is under Ole the stats say so
Today was the 12th league match with OGS in charge of the team and we have collected 8 of the 36 points available, scoring 14 goals, conceding 29 goals, failing to score in 6 games and keeping 1 clean sheet.
In MM last 12 games in charge we collected 9 of the 36 points available, scoring 7 goals, conceding 21 goals, failing to score in 6 games and keeping clean sheets in 2 games.
So when Annis says we have a shocking defence you can sort of see where he is coming from. But one thing is certain we are carrying far more goal threat under OGS than we ever were under MM.
What people are missing on those stats is that in Malky's last 12 games we scored 1 goal to every 3 conceded
Under OGS we have scored 1 goal to every 2 conceded.
So to those who think we would have stayed up under MM I say Bullshit
Malky had a lunatic at him 24/7, before Oct last year how was it then? Ole has no pressure on him.
Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:26 pm
Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:29 pm
llan bluebird wrote::lol: This is a bitter, bitter thread.
Malky had a set back four, then put Whitts in to cover the left back, Cowie or Beller to cover the right back, medel to cover the centre halfs. Leaving frazier and Mutch to score all the open play goals ... Open play goals, go on count them under malky.
Its always been a championship defence......
I loved malky, but he is gone and continually reminiscing and sugar coating the reality really doesn't help anyone.
We had last years team and added medel and caulker then a few panic buys. In hindsight it was never enough
Ole is our man, well until the next one.
Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:34 pm
Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:37 pm
Ackers wrote:Malky had Tan in his ear but surely Malky was still picking the side and leaving the likes of Noone and Bellamy out.
Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:41 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Ackers wrote:Malky had Tan in his ear but surely Malky was still picking the side and leaving the likes of Noone and Bellamy out.
Bellamy was injured then and had family problems.
Craig Noone, I was shocked he never played enough, yet Malky chased after him for a long time to finally sign him.
Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:44 pm
Ackers wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Ackers wrote:Malky had Tan in his ear but surely Malky was still picking the side and leaving the likes of Noone and Bellamy out.
Bellamy was injured then and had family problems.
Craig Noone, I was shocked he never played enough, yet Malky chased after him for a long time to finally sign him.
Bellamy was fine at villa away, so was Noone. We really should have went for it at them away games.