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Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:29 pm

K Jones figure of 37.5k is obscene, but he was brought in for a like for like deal with a very out of form Peter O.

I think we would find that Peter O was on a similar deal, hence the like for like exchange.

Regards the expectations of Campbell and Caulker, as long as we get the best deal for us as possible, then the sooner they are gone the better. Yes, they are decent, but have significant limitations as players. Most importantly, they appear to be mercenaries. Caulker allegedly turning down Liverpool and holding out for 80k a week shows where his priorities are.

We need to get down to a decent wage cap for our players and releasing these players will be some big steps in the right direction.

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:35 pm

Kenwyne Jones on £37.5k-a-week?

That's... depressing. :angry3:

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:36 pm

The meeting if it does happen then fans must get the message across that we want blue as home kit and have a red away kit , and need to say that the fans never accepted the rebrand from the start as it's our identity , how would he feel if we just changed his Malaysian flag :!:

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:38 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Confirms that Campbell's head is so far up his own arse that he thinks he can justify earning 60k a week


I'd agree. I'm disappointed about that. Thought better of him.


I was shocked by Campbell on this :o

Remember Jay Bothroyd got £50,000 a week of QPR when he left us.

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:50 pm

Barry Chuckle wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Confirms that Campbell's head is so far up his own arse that he thinks he can justify earning 60k a week


I'd agree. I'm disappointed about that. Thought better of him.

I think Ramsey was on 60k before he signed a new contract, Campbell is not on the level of Ramsey IMO, 40k is probably an average PL wage but that would be for a lower half PL team who'd just got promoted. 60k is disgusting, no wonder they pulled out

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 7:54 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Confirms that Campbell's head is so far up his own arse that he thinks he can justify earning 60k a week


I'd agree. I'm disappointed about that. Thought better of him.

I think Ramsey was on 60k before he signed a new contract, Campbell is not on the level of Ramsey IMO, 40k is probably an average PL wage but that would be for a lower half PL team who'd just got promoted. 60k is disgusting, no wonder they pulled out

This is what is exactly wrong with football though money is ridiculous , how can any player demand a weekly wage of what some people take to earn in a few years , what do they spend it on ffs

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:01 pm

Nice one Carl, that's a good one :thumbup:

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:05 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Barry Chuckle wrote:
PartyWithOle wrote:Confirms that Campbell's head is so far up his own arse that he thinks he can justify earning 60k a week


I'd agree. I'm disappointed about that. Thought better of him.


I was shocked by Campbell on this :o

Remember Jay Bothroyd got £50,000 a week of QPR when he left us.

Bothroyd was on 8k with us before he left, criminal really when you think what we're paying players now, Jay was right for us and we were right for him. If only we met his demands

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:06 pm

Bluebina wrote:Nice one Carl, that's a good one :thumbup:

Cheers.

I have been out of the game for a long time, thought it was time to get them going again :thumbup: :bluescarf:

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:26 pm

Enjoyed that update,shocking wages Moody :o

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:51 pm

Daily Mail now reporting that Inter want to loan Medel with view to permanent deal at the end of next season.

' Inter Milan want to take Cardiff midfielder Gary Medel on loan with view to a permanent deal.

Inter are willing to offer £8million at the end of next season for the 26-year-old who cost Cardiff £11m from Sevilla.

Medel signed for the Welsh club last summer, and made 34 appearances in the Premier League last season.
'

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Tue Jul 08, 2014 10:44 pm

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Gareth Ccfc Fox Agree about the dead wood surprised we still have velakonja on the books if that's how you spell it lol
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Gareth Ccfc Fox There's a lot off players that don't give a shit about the club on the team aswel
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Terry Rosier · Friends with Steve Day
Never worth it
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Wayne Dibs Anderson I would decline the meeting unless changed colour /badge first , you have been told he won't so I my opinion what's the point , show him no meeting unless change first
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Steven Thomas Agree with Dibbs 100%. We need to up the protests until he listens. No compromise. He is the one sweating.
Besides the last time the so called fans leaders met with Tan over the re brand they sold the rest of the fans out.
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Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Wed Jul 09, 2014 8:40 am

Good update. :ayatollah:

Its just money, money, money with the majority of players these days. I bet the only one who really appreciates it is John with his measly £5k!! :lol:

If we get £10m for Medel thats great business! £10m + Fonte for Marshall wouldnt even be a bad deal either although id rather we sell Medel than Marshall. Jones needs to go, hopefully Caulker will be gone soon too, absolute mercinary! Sell him and replace him with a new CB and i think we are good to go. If Campbell goes or not im not even that fussed, we have so many options up front now.

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:45 am

Shocking wages and it has to stop.

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Wed Jul 09, 2014 9:48 am

Hire a hitman to get rid of kenwynne, as that's the only way he's going to get taken off our hands at those wages. What an appalling bit of business by the club.

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:16 am

The criticism Campbell is getting is very unfair. His agent is obviously doing his job trying to get the very best deal for him and with contract negotiations, it's the agents job to chance things with a big demand to start and then the negotiations begin. Leicester will put their package forward, then Campbell's agent will either accept Leicester's counter offer, or reject it and then drop the initial demands down to 55k a week or something. Eventually, they meet in the middle and they agree on something like 45k a week. That's how contract negotiations work. In this instance, it seems Leicester have been completely put off with Campbell's initial 60k demand and won't go into further contract negotiations at all.

Regarding Maynard, he's gone over 2 and a half seasons without a run of games (he was a bit part player with West Ham before joining us), so cut him some slack. Reading the Carmarthen match report, Maynard seemed to be the striker who looked the most dangerous and impressed the most. Give him a full pre-season to get fully sharp and he will be a great player for us next season, as long as he's given a run of games. But I have a nasty feeling Ole will favour his own strikers before Maynard, so Maynard will once again not be given a chance.

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Wed Jul 09, 2014 12:07 pm

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:The criticism Campbell is getting is very unfair. His agent is obviously doing his job trying to get the very best deal for him and with contract negotiations, it's the agents job to chance things with a big demand to start and then the negotiations begin. Leicester will put their package forward, then Campbell's agent will either accept Leicester's counter offer, or reject it and then drop the initial demands down to 55k a week or something. Eventually, they meet in the middle and they agree on something like 45k a week. That's how contract negotiations work. In this instance, it seems Leicester have been completely put off with Campbell's initial 60k demand and won't go into further contract negotiations at all.

Regarding Maynard, he's gone over 2 and a half seasons without a run of games (he was a bit part player with West Ham before joining us), so cut him some slack. Reading the Carmarthen match report, Maynard seemed to be the striker who looked the most dangerous and impressed the most. Give him a full pre-season to get fully sharp and he will be a great player for us next season, as long as he's given a run of games. But I have a nasty feeling Ole will favour his own strikers before Maynard, so Maynard will once again not be given a chance.

It's not unfair at all, Campbell's ability doesn't match 60k a week. Of course he wants the most for himself but he's not a 60k a week player

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:32 pm

Cardiff Daft! wrote:Good update. :ayatollah:

Its just money, money, money with the majority of players these days. I bet the only one who really appreciates it is John with his measly £5k!! :lol:

If we get £10m for Medel thats great business! £10m + Fonte for Marshall wouldnt even be a bad deal either although id rather we sell Medel than Marshall. Jones needs to go, hopefully Caulker will be gone soon too, absolute mercinary! Sell him and replace him with a new CB and i think we are good to go. If Campbell goes or not im not even that fussed, we have so many options up front now.

wish I was on a measly 5k a week :lol:

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:16 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:The criticism Campbell is getting is very unfair. His agent is obviously doing his job trying to get the very best deal for him and with contract negotiations, it's the agents job to chance things with a big demand to start and then the negotiations begin. Leicester will put their package forward, then Campbell's agent will either accept Leicester's counter offer, or reject it and then drop the initial demands down to 55k a week or something. Eventually, they meet in the middle and they agree on something like 45k a week. That's how contract negotiations work. In this instance, it seems Leicester have been completely put off with Campbell's initial 60k demand and won't go into further contract negotiations at all.

Regarding Maynard, he's gone over 2 and a half seasons without a run of games (he was a bit part player with West Ham before joining us), so cut him some slack. Reading the Carmarthen match report, Maynard seemed to be the striker who looked the most dangerous and impressed the most. Give him a full pre-season to get fully sharp and he will be a great player for us next season, as long as he's given a run of games. But I have a nasty feeling Ole will favour his own strikers before Maynard, so Maynard will once again not be given a chance.

It's not unfair at all, Campbell's ability doesn't match 60k a week. Of course he wants the most for himself but he's not a 60k a week player


But it doesn't matter how much you think a player deserves a week, it's the job of the agent to get the best deal possible and that's what Campbell's agent was trying to do with Leicester. Look what Tan is doing with Marshall's asking price, asking for 10 million plus Fonte. Southampton might offer 6 million to start and we will reject the offer, but we might then meet in the middle and agree to sell him for 8 million. That's football negotiations, every club, player and agent tries to get the very best deal.

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:21 pm

"...... so Kenwyn I hear Qatar is really nice this time of year...fancy it?"


Ps Jay Boothroyd fifty grand a week.? Jesus if they only paid him once they were ripped off!

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:50 pm

PartyWithOle wrote:
Tonteg Bluebird wrote:The criticism Campbell is getting is very unfair. His agent is obviously doing his job trying to get the very best deal for him and with contract negotiations, it's the agents job to chance things with a big demand to start and then the negotiations begin. Leicester will put their package forward, then Campbell's agent will either accept Leicester's counter offer, or reject it and then drop the initial demands down to 55k a week or something. Eventually, they meet in the middle and they agree on something like 45k a week. That's how contract negotiations work. In this instance, it seems Leicester have been completely put off with Campbell's initial 60k demand and won't go into further contract negotiations at all.

Regarding Maynard, he's gone over 2 and a half seasons without a run of games (he was a bit part player with West Ham before joining us), so cut him some slack. Reading the Carmarthen match report, Maynard seemed to be the striker who looked the most dangerous and impressed the most. Give him a full pre-season to get fully sharp and he will be a great player for us next season, as long as he's given a run of games. But I have a nasty feeling Ole will favour his own strikers before Maynard, so Maynard will once again not be given a chance.

It's not unfair at all, Campbell's ability doesn't match 60k a week. Of course he wants the most for himself but he's not a 60k a week player


But it doesn't matter!!
That's the way it works. Tonteg is correct.
Look at McCormack for example. Most people don't think he's worth 11mill or whatever but if a club is willing to pay it then that's what he's worth to them.

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:17 am

Don't see why we are calling Campbell over, this could be his agent.. we all now in today's world agents dominate the player.

Re: ' UPDATE - TUESDAY JULY 8th 2014 '

Fri Jul 11, 2014 3:36 pm

Cheers Carl for a great Update :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :ole:

Once a month now at least :thumbright: