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Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:39 am

Little fact on Clive Sullivan. Which was sent to me.
As Clive Sullivan loved the City so much, back in the day he placed a 160,000 deposit, which he was entitled to back on the deal falling through, to call it back at the time ( 400k ) in today's money would have bust the club. Sullivan never asked for it back for those reasons, although the sum was returned only recently out of respect where Sullivan refused any interest.
:bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:43 am

Surely tan will sell if these rumours are true? Basically if doesn't sell by end of this season he will have less parachute payments next season, as doubt we get promoted now! Once the payments run out we are not going to be worth what he paid into us, so what does he do then? Can't sell stadium players worth peanuts so be left with championship club with no money (maybe)?? That's all :old:

Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:50 am

pembroke allan wrote:Surely tan will sell if these rumours are true? Basically if doesn't sell by end of this season he will have less parachute payments next season, as doubt we get promoted now! Once the payments run out we are not going to be worth what he paid into us, so what does he do then? Can't sell stadium players worth peanuts so be left with championship club with no money (maybe)?? That's all :old:


Well he did say he would sell if the deal was right and clearly he's had enough of you ! Not that I can say I blame him !

You're fans leaders conned and lied to him that rebrand was acceptable.

Fancy being our feeder club lol

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:52 am

Question for you Nukes ?

Do you expect this all to be denied or to come out in the open ? Are you're contacts linked to this deal and if so is this part of their plan to have in the open ?

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 10:55 am

Daya wrote:Question for you Nukes ?

Do you expect this all to be denied or to come out in the open ? Are you're contacts linked to this deal and if so is this part of their plan to have in the open ?

Sam tried to push it into the background yesterday. But who knows. Let's see what Sam says next :bluescarf:

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:02 am

Nuclearblue wrote:
Daya wrote:Question for you Nukes ?

Do you expect this all to be denied or to come out in the open ? Are you're contacts linked to this deal and if so is this part of their plan to have in the open ?

Sam tried to push it into the background yesterday. But who knows. Let's see what Sam says next :bluescarf:


As Annis would say hmmmmmmm Annis was adamant in fairness of this being put together.

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:06 am

Daya wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:
Daya wrote:Question for you Nukes ?

Do you expect this all to be denied or to come out in the open ? Are you're contacts linked to this deal and if so is this part of their plan to have in the open ?

Sam tried to push it into the background yesterday. But who knows. Let's see what Sam says next :bluescarf:


As Annis would say hmmmmmmm Annis was adamant in fairness of this being put together.

Yes even last night Chief he rang me and said he is positive I will be proved right. Nice one Annis.

Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:06 am

Daya wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Surely tan will sell if these rumours are true? Basically if doesn't sell by end of this season he will have less parachute payments next season, as doubt we get promoted now! Once the payments run out we are not going to be worth what he paid into us, so what does he do then? Can't sell stadium players worth peanuts so be left with championship club with no money (maybe)?? That's all :old:


Well he did say he would sell if the deal was right and clearly he's had enough of you ! Not that I can say I blame him !

You're fans leaders conned and lied to him that rebrand was acceptable.

Fancy being our feeder club lol



Nah you got no style? besides you will get fat on the lazy buggers we have! :laughing6:

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:15 am

I have to admit I dont know about the 2 Consortiums,I have heard nothing about the Sullivan's being involved,but that does not mean its not true.

I only know of one Consortium being put together with very Wealthy people involved,but once again that does not mean Nukes is wrong.

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:15 am

the only name i don't recognise is Alan Gloag.
I know of Ann Gloag who got a decently deep pocket, any relation?

:ayatollah:

Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:21 am

ThomasC wrote:
SwampCCFC wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
thomasblue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Bakedalasker wrote:The club alone is not worth £100m.

Just how much are the parachute payments?

I think it is ,the stadium is worth most of that


In any deal The stadium is only worth the money in revenue from ticket sales not bricks and mortar . Which at the moment are dropping by the week !

The stadium is as I understand not allowed to be sold, and is intrusted to Cardiff city holdings ltd . Tan can't sell the stadium and nobody can buy it .

The stadium is worth a lot even if it can't be sold ,Fulham were sold for 200 million last year do you think we are only worth half of them ?


with that as a yardstick i'd say we're worth less than half of fulham.

fulham are located in a prime area of london, with some of the highest property prices in the world. they were, at the time, an established premier league club.

we, on the other hand, lie in mid table in the championship. the true market value of our club is probably £80-100m. we'd be bought based upon our potential. though with the parachute payments factored in, maybe the true figure would be closer to the £100m mark than £80m.


if they own Craven Cottage, that would be some of the highest £££ 1 m2 in the country West London on the bank of the Themes
but if they built a new stadium what woyldthat cost ?

Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:36 am

Nuclearblue wrote:Ok here are the names of the potential backers Sam has spoke with. Not well known but extremely wealthy.
Cameron Mackintosh
Jon Hunt
Sir Brian Souter
Alan Gloag
Francois Perrodo.
Hmmmmmm :bluescarf:

Cameron Mackintosh, we can have a musical made out of our current crisis, could make millions, Les Miserables, could be massive.

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:38 am

Forever Blue wrote:I have to admit I dont know about the 2 Consortiums,I have heard nothing about the Sullivan's being involved,but that does not mean its not true.

I only know of one Consortium being put together with very Wealthy people involved,but once again that does not mean Nukes is wrong.


Firstly Nukes has been bang on the money quite often.

What's confusing me though Annis is you and nukes say there is a consortium and Sam says there's not and they don't work in football?

Who's saying there are two consortiums ?

Are you're names different then ? I see Nukes has a list

What's yours ?

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:42 am

Daya wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I have to admit I dont know about the 2 Consortiums,I have heard nothing about the Sullivan's being involved,but that does not mean its not true.

I only know of one Consortium being put together with very Wealthy people involved,but once again that does not mean Nukes is wrong.


Firstly Nukes has been bang on the money quite often.

What's confusing me though Annis is you and nukes say there is a consortium and Sam says there's not and they don't work in football?

Who's saying there are two consortiums ?

Are you're names different then ? I see Nukes has a list

What's yours ?
sounds like wishful thinking on both parts

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:43 am

IMO, for any sale to occur, tan has to put the club up for sale.

unless he is open to realistic offers, a sale is not feasible as he will expect offers in relation to what he's put into the club, not offers in relation to what the club is actually worth.

these consortia remind me of the "red knights" who were supposedly buying man u. lots of hot air and publicity, but when push comes to shove, they proved to be all fart and no poo. i've got more chance of winning the lottery than this so called consortium buying CCFC any time soon.

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:45 am

Daya wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I have to admit I dont know about the 2 Consortiums,I have heard nothing about the Sullivan's being involved,but that does not mean its not true.

I only know of one Consortium being put together with very Wealthy people involved,but once again that does not mean Nukes is wrong.


Firstly Nukes has been bang on the money quite often.

What's confusing me though Annis is you and nukes say there is a consortium and Sam says there's not and they don't work in football?

Who's saying there are two consortiums ?

Are you're names different then ? I see Nukes has a list

What's yours ?



Nukes has been Spot on,on many occasions :thumbright:

Steve,I just said I dont know about the Sullivans.

As to Sam in the paper yesterday Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:46 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Daya wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I have to admit I dont know about the 2 Consortiums,I have heard nothing about the Sullivan's being involved,but that does not mean its not true.

I only know of one Consortium being put together with very Wealthy people involved,but once again that does not mean Nukes is wrong.


Firstly Nukes has been bang on the money quite often.

What's confusing me though Annis is you and nukes say there is a consortium and Sam says there's not and they don't work in football?

Who's saying there are two consortiums ?

Are you're names different then ? I see Nukes has a list

What's yours ?



Nukes has been Spot on,on many occasions :thumbright:

Steve,I just said I dont know about the Sullivans.

As to Sam in the paper yesterday Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Wrong west ham owner David gold it is ??????

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:52 am

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Daya wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I have to admit I dont know about the 2 Consortiums,I have heard nothing about the Sullivan's being involved,but that does not mean its not true.

I only know of one Consortium being put together with very Wealthy people involved,but once again that does not mean Nukes is wrong.


Firstly Nukes has been bang on the money quite often.

What's confusing me though Annis is you and nukes say there is a consortium and Sam says there's not and they don't work in football?

Who's saying there are two consortiums ?

Are you're names different then ? I see Nukes has a list

What's yours ?



Nukes has been Spot on,on many occasions :thumbright:

Steve,I just said I dont know about the Sullivans.

As to Sam in the paper yesterday Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Wrong west ham owner David gold it is ??????



Wez, I am not on about anything to do West Ham :thumbright:

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:02 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Daya wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I have to admit I dont know about the 2 Consortiums,I have heard nothing about the Sullivan's being involved,but that does not mean its not true.

I only know of one Consortium being put together with very Wealthy people involved,but once again that does not mean Nukes is wrong.


Firstly Nukes has been bang on the money quite often.

What's confusing me though Annis is you and nukes say there is a consortium and Sam says there's not and they don't work in football?

Who's saying there are two consortiums ?

Are you're names different then ? I see Nukes has a list

What's yours ?



Nukes has been Spot on,on many occasions :thumbright:

Steve,I just said I dont know about the Sullivans.

As to Sam in the paper yesterday Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Wrong west ham owner David gold it is ??????



Wez, I am not on about anything to do West Ham :thumbright:

So it's not Clive/David sulivan nukes on about

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:18 pm

Hey Wez wasn't it you who brought up Gold the other day ?

Where you get that info ?

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:20 pm

David Sullivan has recently stated he is selling some of his West Ham shares and that the money will go to reducing west hams debt. If his shareholding dips below a certain level (9.9% I think) he is able to join the board of another team.

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:23 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:David Sullivan has recently stated he is selling some of his West Ham shares and that the money will go to reducing west hams debt. If his shareholding dips below a certain level (9.9% I think) he is able to join the board of another team.


Gareth, he's not selling his shares. He's willing to take investment for up to 20 percent ownership.

With the funds raised paying down the debt.

He's going nowhere mate neither is Goldie.

It's a non starter. More chance of Tan turning u back to blue !

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:44 pm

Rumours gathering pace of a new consortium or two interested in buying the club, then former owner States big things happening in 2015 and thus, positive news suddenly lands, as supporters in their droves are considering not renewing season tickets. This could be the news that changes a few supporters minds into renewing Hmmmm as they say :lol: It would be nice to know exactly where these rumours are being started and who is to gain from them?

Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:00 pm

Daya wrote:
np20 wrote:Nukes, i completely believe what you have told us is what you have been told.

But,

If the consortium can not afford to buy us up front, they can not afford us.

If so many wealthy men are involved why is the bid made in instalments and have to cough up the interest?

Is this just a flip job? Buy us turn us blue, get the fans back onside, fans back in the stadium, make us more appealing and sell us on for a profit, knowing what infrastructure we have in the training complex, stadium and potential stadium capacity?


No major deals are done on up front cash payments - very rare.


You are totally correct, cash is king as they say and it is far better in your bank. Most player purchases are brokered the same way not cos they don't have funds but makes sense.

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:07 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Daya wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I have to admit I dont know about the 2 Consortiums,I have heard nothing about the Sullivan's being involved,but that does not mean its not true.

I only know of one Consortium being put together with very Wealthy people involved,but once again that does not mean Nukes is wrong.


Firstly Nukes has been bang on the money quite often.

What's confusing me though Annis is you and nukes say there is a consortium and Sam says there's not and they don't work in football?

Who's saying there are two consortiums ?

Are you're names different then ? I see Nukes has a list

What's yours ?



Nukes has been Spot on,on many occasions :thumbright:

Steve,I just said I dont know about the Sullivans.

As to Sam in the paper yesterday Hmmmmmmmmmmm

Wrong west ham owner David gold it is ??????



Wez, I am not on about anything to do West Ham :thumbright:

So it's not Clive/David sulivan nukes on about

Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:32 pm

dorsetblue wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Ok here are the names of the potential backers Sam has spoke with. Not well known but extremely wealthy.
Cameron Mackintosh
Jon Hunt
Sir Brian Souter
Alan Gloag
Francois Perrodo.
Hmmmmmm :bluescarf:

Cameron Mackintosh, we can have a musical made out of our current crisis, could make millions, Les Miserables, could be massive.





One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest?? :laughing6: :laughing6:

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:36 pm

Leytonstoneblue wrote:Rumours gathering pace of a new consortium or two interested in buying the club, then former owner States big things happening in 2015 and thus, positive news suddenly lands, as supporters in their droves are considering not renewing season tickets. This could be the news that changes a few supporters minds into renewing Hmmmm as they say :lol: It would be nice to know exactly where these rumours are being started and who is to gain from them?

Synical bugger!!! I suspect that the club would be happy for rumours to go out regarding a takeover as I'm sure a fair few would renew on account of strong rumours. I dearly hope that takeover happens but until a new board is in place I'll remain an exiled bluebird

Re: ' Consortium update 03/01/2015 '

Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:46 pm

Gareth (Wilts) wrote:
Leytonstoneblue wrote:Rumours gathering pace of a new consortium or two interested in buying the club, then former owner States big things happening in 2015 and thus, positive news suddenly lands, as supporters in their droves are considering not renewing season tickets. This could be the news that changes a few supporters minds into renewing Hmmmm as they say :lol: It would be nice to know exactly where these rumours are being started and who is to gain from them?

Synical bugger!!! I suspect that the club would be happy for rumours to go out regarding a takeover as I'm sure a fair few would renew on account of strong rumours. I dearly hope that takeover happens but until a new board is in place I'll remain an exiled bluebird


I would 100% Not help this Current Regime or Board and the people wanting our club have No Friendship with with them at all :thumbright: :bluescarf: :bluescarf: :bluescarf:

Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 1:49 pm

Nuclearblue wrote:Ok here are the names of the potential backers Sam has spoke with. Not well known but extremely wealthy.
Cameron Mackintosh
Jon Hunt
Sir Brian Souter
Alan Gloag
Francois Perrodo.
Hmmmmmm :bluescarf:


Jon Hunt is currently suing HR Owen car dealerships for £1m for f*cking up his Lamborghini!

Who owns HR Owen?

Re: Consortium update 03/01/2015

Sat Jan 03, 2015 2:15 pm

CayoBluebird wrote:
Nuclearblue wrote:Ok here are the names of the potential backers Sam has spoke with. Not well known but extremely wealthy.
Cameron Mackintosh
Jon Hunt
Sir Brian Souter
Alan Gloag
Francois Perrodo.
Hmmmmmm :bluescarf:


Jon Hunt is currently suing HR Owen car dealerships for £1m for f*cking up his Lamborghini!

Who owns HR Owen?




Harold Rolfe Owen (a Yorkshireman and WWI Flying Hero) opened the dealership in 1899 ;)

Now owned by the infamous Gerald Ronson (Heron International) so can't see where you are coming from :?