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Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:55 pm
RichardBluebird wrote:why bring the city in2 it. we are talking about glasgow celtic fans and their anti army/ British views. im ccfc through and through proud to be welsh and british. it does piss me off tho when some people try to create a ccfc/celtic/republican alliance. personally i dont want anything to do with the celtis religious bigots
If your Welsh then your also a Celt, no getting away from that fact. Its not a CCFC/Celtic fc its a CCFC/CELTIC which is so.
Dont you think that loyalist are bigots, I lived in Andersonstown in Belfast and whitnessed 1st hand how the squaddies treated locals. Having said all that I know of 3 serving soldiers that are Celtic FC fans.
I brought up the City because this thread was quickly stereotyping ALL Celtic fans as IRA types.
So in loyalism can you condone the Shankill Butchers, the Dublin Bombings, the Monaghan bombings, bloody sunday. All controlled by the then British government and sanctioned by a certain army major who also used his position to import guns into NI from S.Africa.
I just dont understand why someone from Wales would latch onto this loyalism melarky, the history of it is purely evil mate, you should look into it more.
BTW Im not a Cetic fan, Im City through and through. One love in football, I dont believe that any life is worth a piece of land. I admire the likes of Adams, McGuinness, who had the balls to stand up to the IRA(despite of thier past) and convinced them of a peaceful solution which is now working for the good of NI.[/quote]
Excellent post.
I'm not a Celtic fan either nor am I a Catholic but the loyalist nonsense spouted by several CCFC fans in this thread is pretty sad tbh.
As you wrote in one of your earlier posts lets leave this fawning loyalist love in to the Jacks. It suits their forelock tugging fan base much better,
Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:20 pm
Hibs all the way, f**k all weedgie kents!
Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:34 am
tell you what lads
It doesnt half make me cringe to hear cardiff city fans getting involved in all this bollocks
we are welsh , what the f**k do some of us get so obsessed with all this sectarian bullshit ?
f**k celtic , f**k rangers
leave all that sucking up to leeds , chelsea and the other boneheads
CARDIFF CITY !!!!!!!
Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:36 am
alfie sherwood wrote:RichardBluebird wrote:why bring the city in2 it. we are talking about glasgow celtic fans and their anti army/ British views. im ccfc through and through proud to be welsh and british. it does piss me off tho when some people try to create a ccfc/celtic/republican alliance. personally i dont want anything to do with the celtis religious bigots
If your Welsh then your also a Celt, no getting away from that fact. Its not a CCFC/Celtic fc its a CCFC/CELTIC which is so.
Dont you think that loyalist are bigots, I lived in Andersonstown in Belfast and whitnessed 1st hand how the squaddies treated locals. Having said all that I know of 3 serving soldiers that are Celtic FC fans.
works all ways
I brought up the City because this thread was quickly stereotyping ALL Celtic fans as IRA types.
too right
So in loyalism can you condone the Shankill Butchers, the Dublin Bombings, the Monaghan bombings, bloody sunday. All controlled by the then British government and sanctioned by a certain army major who also used his position to import guns into NI from S.Africa.
I just dont understand why someone from Wales would latch onto this loyalism melarky, the history of it is purely evil mate, you should look into it more.
BTW Im not a Cetic fan, Im City through and through. One love in football, I dont believe that any life is worth a piece of land. I admire the likes of Adams, McGuinness, who had the balls to stand up to the IRA(despite of thier past) and convinced them of a peaceful solution which is now working for the good of NI.
Excellent post.
I'm not a Celtic fan either nor am I a Catholic but the loyalist nonsense spouted by several CCFC fans in this thread is pretty sad tbh.
As you wrote in one of your earlier posts lets leave this fawning loyalist love in to the Jacks. It suits their forelock tugging fan base much better,[/quote]
sod rangers, sod celtic
do people seriously think that oustide of a few , city fans give a toss for all this rangers celtic , celtic rangers bore festival ?
do they bollocks
Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:39 am
Sludge wrote:tell you what lads
It doesnt half make me cringe to hear cardiff city fans getting involved in all this bollocks
we are welsh , what the f**k do some of us get so obsessed with all this sectarian bullshit ?
f**k celtic , f**k rangers
leave all that sucking up to leeds , chelsea and the other boneheads
CARDIFF CITY !!!!!!!
altho I like Celtic, I couldnt agree more with you.
Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:28 pm
Sludge wrote:tell you what lads
It doesnt half make me cringe to hear cardiff city fans getting involved in all this bollocks
we are welsh , what the f**k do some of us get so obsessed with all this sectarian bullshit ?
f**k celtic , f**k rangers
leave all that sucking up to leeds , chelsea and the other boneheads
CARDIFF CITY !!!!!!!
Your 100% right Sludge, it makes me laugh when some latch onto this Loyalism thing when they dont really know what it means. But yeah f**k them, only thing that matters is CCFC.
ONE CLUB ONE LOVE.........
Sun Jun 13, 2010 4:18 pm
f**k THE OLD FIRM
CLYDEBANK FC
Sun Jun 13, 2010 7:51 pm
Sludge wrote:tell you what lads
It doesnt half make me cringe to hear cardiff city fans getting involved in all this bollocks
we are welsh , what the f**k do some of us get so obsessed with all this sectarian bullshit ?
f**k celtic , f**k rangers
leave all that sucking up to leeds , chelsea and the other boneheads
CARDIFF CITY !!!!!!!
Post of the week
Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:41 pm
Sludge wrote:tell you what lads
It doesnt half make me cringe to hear cardiff city fans getting involved in all this bollocks
we are welsh , what the f**k do some of us get so obsessed with all this sectarian bullshit ?
f**k celtic , f**k rangers
leave all that sucking up to leeds , chelsea and the other boneheads
CARDIFF CITY !!!!!!!
It makes me cringe as well, so much that I feel the need to inform them of the facts.
There's far too much paddy bashing on this board and we do have a lot of fans from Ireland.
I can't ignore the shite and ignorance of some of the so called loyalists here especially when they have absoutely no ties to the situation.
Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:56 pm
Johnny Rythmn wrote:Sludge wrote:tell you what lads
It doesnt half make me cringe to hear cardiff city fans getting involved in all this bollocks
we are welsh , what the f**k do some of us get so obsessed with all this sectarian bullshit ?
f**k celtic , f**k rangers
leave all that sucking up to leeds , chelsea and the other boneheads
CARDIFF CITY !!!!!!!
It makes me cringe as well, so much that I feel the need to inform them of the facts.
There's far too much paddy bashing on this board and we do have a lot of fans from Ireland.
I can't ignore the shite and ignorance of some of the so called loyalists here especially when they have absoutely no ties to the situation.
no ties ???? we are british as are the people of ulster so they are our fellow countrymen
Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:59 pm
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:Johnny Rythmn wrote:Sludge wrote:tell you what lads
It doesnt half make me cringe to hear cardiff city fans getting involved in all this bollocks
we are welsh , what the f**k do some of us get so obsessed with all this sectarian bullshit ?
f**k celtic , f**k rangers
leave all that sucking up to leeds , chelsea and the other boneheads
CARDIFF CITY !!!!!!!
It makes me cringe as well, so much that I feel the need to inform them of the facts.
There's far too much paddy bashing on this board and we do have a lot of fans from Ireland.
I can't ignore the shite and ignorance of some of the so called loyalists here especially when they have absoutely no ties to the situation.
no ties ???? we are british as are the people of ulster so they are our fellow countrymen
They are tresspassers
Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:03 pm
so do you want to remove them from ulster ??? shall we do a swapand send all the irish back from the uk
Sun Jun 13, 2010 10:34 pm
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:so do you want to remove them from ulster ??? shall we do a swapand send all the irish back from the uk
Just leave the governing of the island of Ireland to the Irish as it should be.
Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:34 pm
I'd like a loyalist to explain what they're loyal to, and why ?
I can understand loyalty to family, friends and football team but beyond that it get's a bit abstract.
Sun Jun 13, 2010 11:40 pm
THE OPPRESSED wrote:I'd like a loyalist to explain what they're loyal to, and why ?
I can understand loyalty to family, friends and football team but beyond that it get's a bit abstract.
exactly
Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:36 am
What I find so amusing is that they have had peace in Northern Ireland since January of 1998 and happily getting on with their lives, the new generation have not experienced "the troubles" and rightly so. People have peace but the only one it seems to bother is someone from MAESTEG.
Should we kick out the Welsh from England and wherever else they have settled.
Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:21 am
Many of the 'loyalists' fans on here condemn all forms of republican violence but don't say a dicky bird about loyalist violence or the songs sung by a small minority of Rangers fans celebrating such acts.
Much of the loyalist violence was directed at civilians too.
I find the stance of many loyalists on here hypocritical and, at times, overtly racist, especially the references to the famine which were a tragic part of Ireland's history.
Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:36 am
ninianboy1 wrote:Many of the 'loyalists' fans on here condemn all forms of republican violence but don't say a dicky bird about loyalist violence or the songs sung by a small minority of Rangers fans celebrating such acts.
Much of the loyalist violence was directed at civilians too.
I find the stance of many loyalists on here hypocritical and, at times, overtly racist, especially the references to the famine which were a tragic part of Ireland's history.
Because they dont like the fact that the loyalist movement is and was run by the British state, in all honestly I really dont think they know what loyalism is. Its just a cool thing to do to impress and suck up to the likes of Chelsea & co, oh and the Swansea loyals of course.
It really does make me wonder what sort of person idolises sectarianism and the evil of the likes of Shankill Butchers, I shudder the thought that this day of age that we have those people so close to us.
Mon Jun 14, 2010 3:58 pm
ninianboy1 wrote:Many of the 'loyalists' fans on here condemn all forms of republican violence but don't say a dicky bird about loyalist violence or the songs sung by a small minority of Rangers fans celebrating such acts.
Much of the loyalist violence was directed at civilians too.
I find the stance of many loyalists on here hypocritical and, at times, overtly racist, especially the references to the famine which were a tragic part of Ireland's history.
At what point have i condoned loyalist violence. its ok for republicans to slag off rangers, the british army, the royal family the protestant people of northern ireland (who are the majority) but if the other sides faults are brought up im overtly racist i find that hypocritical
Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:06 pm
At what point have i condoned loyalist violence. its ok for republicans to slag off rangers, the british army, the royal family the protestant people of northern ireland (who are the majority) but if the other sides faults are brought up im overtly racist i find that hypocritical[/quote]
Those that have slagged off rangers, the british army, the royal family the protestant people of northern ireland are just narrow minded bitter fools as those that slag off the republicans. Point is its their problem so why get involved, there is scum on both sides but do you know what the best part is.......... The likes of former PIRA, INLA, UDA, UVF, etc all work together now as drug lords, gun running, bank robberies, you name a high rating crime in the North and you'll find them boys behind it and best of buddies too.
Loyalism & Republicanism is a thing of the past mate and the only ones that get involved now are just are those that cant get a piece of the cake.
Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:27 pm
and the way these threads go should make everyone realise that cardiff city have nothing to do with the likes of rangers and celtic and so it should stay
when a rangers sympathising flag is seen it winds up those that think they have some sort of link to celtic
and the other way round when a celtic flag is ever seen down at cardiff you will have the same old rubbish and cries from the other side
people should leave all that bollocks down the pub because the vast majority of cardiff fans couldnt give a flying toss about either of them !!
lets stick to cardiff city and keep our club free of all that which bores the pants off most cardiff fans
its boring
Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:47 pm
as I said , boring as f**k
I support cardiff city
I couldnt give a toss about either of them
Mon Jun 14, 2010 6:53 pm
Sludge wrote:as I said , boring as f**k
I support cardiff city
I couldnt give a toss about either of them
Thats nice for you?
Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:18 pm
thomas almost all cardiff city fans feel the same
they just aint interested in anyone but cardiff city ! !!
and at every club where this celtic ,rangers , rangers celtic nonsense rears its head , it just leads to stupid arguements
we dont need to follow the english clubs like chelsea and leeds and birmingham, who have this sort of silly political stuff going on
if you were older , you would remember there was lots of it going on , also at portsmouth , millwall
its all stupid, bringing sectarain politics into football when it has nothing to do with us
up the city !!!!
Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:40 pm
Sorry fella but the reply button went missing so I'll posr my reply here:
You said: "At what point have i condoned loyalist violence. its ok for republicans to slag off rangers, the british army, the royal family the protestant people of northern ireland (who are the majority) but if the other sides faults are brought up im overtly racist i find that hypocritical"
I never said you have condoned loyalist violence. I said the loyalist types on here continually fail to condemn loyalist violence - even the extreme attacks carried out on normal members of the public whose only crime is to be a catholic. But they're quite happy to condemn republican violence. That's what I found hypocritical.
Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:06 pm
the secterian violence was cowardly and evil on both sides no one is disputing that.
Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:34 pm
LlwyncelynBlue wrote:Celtic hate everything to do with Britain, full stop.
Not true
Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:56 pm
MAESTEG BLUE wrote:the secterian violence was cowardly and evil on both sides no one is disputing that.
Then we agree to some extent.
However, few of the loyalists/Rangers fans here condemn loyalist violence.
Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:33 am
Sludge wrote:thomas almost all cardiff city fans feel the same
they just aint interested in anyone but cardiff city ! !!
and at every club where this celtic ,rangers , rangers celtic nonsense rears its head , it just leads to stupid arguements
we dont need to follow the english clubs like chelsea and leeds and birmingham, who have this sort of silly political stuff going on
if you were older , you would remember there was lots of it going on , also at portsmouth , millwall
its all stupid, bringing sectarain politics into football when it has nothing to do with us
up the city !!!!
And thats nice for all other city fans?
ninianboy1 wrote:MAESTEG BLUE wrote:the secterian violence was cowardly and evil on both sides no one is disputing that.
Then we agree to some extent.
However, few of the loyalists/Rangers fans here condemn loyalist violence.
When has anyone said this?
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