UPDATED EXCLUSIVE UPDATE : CARDIFF CITY MANAGER

This is just another rumour on a message board !!!!!! Its not fact

But, if true, I can not recall too many reluctant number two's making it

Why don't Vincent put a tracksuit on and manage the club from the dug out he may aswell because we are only going to blame the next guy for everything if it fails even though he does not have half a say in much. I mean look at the transfer committee the club have said about to me that says it all ( Here's the players joe blogs carry on ) just a scapegoat role really and somebody to blame when the shit hits the fan.

Last edited by Bluebird1977 on Sat May 14, 2016 5:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I've always had a gut instinct that Trollope would so well. Would have rather he took over in January to see how he would get on.

Hopefully we will still get at least 10,000 through the turnstiles next season, which would put us on par with a mid sized league one outfit

He made a difference when he came in as coach so who knows could work out good any manager is a risk people should give the guy a chance IF he gets the job . I think personally who ever gets the job it will be tough especially as there wont be much money to strengthen the squad and everyone wants sucess overnight .

If it is trollope, then great. Obviously some people at the club feel he can offer something that slade couldnt. And no, i dont believe it's because he's a yes man, if that were the case then he'd have left slade in charge!

Some one mustve recomended him to tan as i dont believe tan has been in the country more than twice this season.

Christ, if the supporters had the choice, god knows who we'd have in post. But I'd bet it'd be a back page of the sun megastar!!

Why don't Vincent put a tracksuit on and manage the club from the dug out he may aswell because we are only going to blame the next guy when it fails for everything even though he does not have half a say in anything I mean look at the transfer committee that says it all ( Here's the players joe blogs carry on ) just a scapegoat role really and somebody to blame when the shit hits the fan.

I agree.

Tan needs someone to face up and take the blame when things don't go the way he wants.

That's what happened to Slade last season - placed in the firing line to avert the flack from Tan.

Can't understand why any half decent manager would be willing to work on that basis.

If Slade has been removed because he "failed" this season then why hasn't Tan, who stressed that Slade was his appointment and his alone, admitted that he also failed?

No disrespect Carl, but the club hardly leaked any inside info this season .. Immers Zohore. To name a few .I think we should wait and see ?

If it is trollope, then great. Obviously some people at the club feel he can offer something that slade couldnt. And no, i dont believe it's because he's a yes man, if that were the case then he'd have left slade in charge!

Some one mustve recomended him to tan as i dont believe tan has been in the country more than twice this season.

Christ, if the supporters had the choice, god knows who we'd have in post. But I'd bet it'd be a back page of the sun megastar!!

Roeder must be back!

If it is trollope, then great. Obviously some people at the club feel he can offer something that slade couldnt. And no, i dont believe it's because he's a yes man, if that were the case then he'd have left slade in charge!

Some one mustve recomended him to tan as i dont believe tan has been in the country more than twice this season.

Christ, if the supporters had the choice, god knows who we'd have in post. But I'd bet it'd be a back page of the sun megastar!!

We wouldn't get a megastar here that's just it because we got TAN and its tans way or no way that's we are getting a poundshop not a harrods manager

Why don't Vincent put a tracksuit on and manage the club from the dug out he may aswell because we are only going to blame the next guy when it fails for everything even though he does not have half a say in anything I mean look at the transfer committee that says it all ( Here's the players joe blogs carry on ) just a scapegoat role really and somebody to blame when the shit hits the fan.

I agree.

Tan needs someone to face up and take the blame when things don't go the way he wants.

That's what happened to Slade last season - placed in the firing line to avert the flack from Tan.

Can't understand why any half decent manager would be willing to work on that basis.

If Slade has been removed because he "failed" this season then why hasn't Tan, who stressed that Slade was his appointment and his alone, admitted that he also failed?

You covered everything in one sentence

Unless we get a manger who comes in and says I expect this this and this also stay out of this then we wont get a decent manager on paper simple as that

As if that information would be leaked at this stage

As if that information would be leaked at this stage

I doubt carl would put that out tbh if he hadn't been told that otherwise I mean can u imagine bellers getting it or Warnock he will look like a rite wally
Things could change of course that's the risk in saying info anyone tells you, football can be a funny thing

As if that information would be leaked at this stage

I doubt carl would put that out tbh if he hadn't been told that otherwise I mean can u imagine bellers getting it or Warnock he will look like a rite wally
Things could change of course that's the risk in saying info anyone tells you, football can be a funny thing

Won't be the first time

As far as I know we are looking for a Head Coach, not a manager. I rate Trollope very highly, but still think we need someone from outside who can give a totally fresh perspective. Clement or Sherwood would be better, but too pricey for Vinnie the Red.

Players love Trollopoe, that counts for a lot.

We don't want the players loving the manager because that's to cosy, respect on the other hand is another matter

Hopefully we will still get at least 10,000 through the turnstiles next season, which would put us on par with a mid sized league one outfit

we've sold well over 10000 season tickets already so not going to be hard lol

Appreciate info Carl and makes sense but when CCFC are involved you can never tell what will happen. I can understand why fans wouldn't get excited by Trollope but lots got excited when OGS was appointed. Names mean absolute jack, it's what they do that counts. If 5 games in to the season we had won 3 and drawn 2 then your warnocks Clements and bellamys will be a distant memory. I do agree many number twos make it. Whoever it is he will have my full backing and be judged over the season not before the season.

Hopefully we will still get at least 10,000 through the turnstiles next season, which would put us on par with a mid sized league one outfit

we've sold well over 10000 season tickets already so not going to be hard lol

So they will have you believe

Tan's biggest failing rears it's ugly head, and in the process, empties his his club's bank account season after season.

f**k I don't know if that's good or bad news

Hopefully we will still get at least 10,000 through the turnstiles next season, which would put us on par with a mid sized league one outfit

we've sold well over 10000 season tickets already so not going to be hard lol

So they will have you believe

so your saying they haven't and they lied ?

Hopefully we will still get at least 10,000 through the turnstiles next season, which would put us on par with a mid sized league one outfit

we've sold well over 10000 season tickets already so not going to be hard lol

So they will have you believe

so your saying they haven't and they lied ?

Not quite 10,000 to date

HMMMMMMmmmmmmmm

Some Assistants who took over and did well.....

Bob Paisley (Liverpool)
Paisley spent the entirety of his playing career with Liverpool and, though he was released in 1954, he returned to the club as a physio before becoming a reserve coach.

With the arrival of Bill Shankly in 1959, the 'Boot Room' culture was introduced, allowing the coaches to get together to share their opinions on the team, tactics and opposition. Paisley was promoted to assistant manager in 1971, and provided knowledge and insight in the background while Shankly was very much the mouthpiece of the club.

When Shankly retired, the Scot felt - as he later put it in his autobiography - that "the only way to make the changeover was to promote the rest of the staff". This meant Paisley taking his place. "This is the proudest day of my life, but also one of the saddest in that we shall be losing Mr Shankly," he said upon the confirmation of his appointment, and it was not just a platitude. Paisley had been a reluctant successor, a man uncomfortable with the press. As he once said: "Bill loves it. He likes the razzmatazz. I'm a backroom boy. Always will be."

However, he showed signs early on that he would be able to follow his mentor's lead. Asked where Shankly was after his first game in charge, Paisley replied: "He's trying to get right away from football. I believe he's gone to Everton." As a manager, he outstripped his mentor: in a nine-year spell, Paisley won six league titles, three European Cups, one UEFA Cup and three League Cups.

Joe Fagan (Liverpool)
Fagan had been appointed Paisley's assistant when Shankly left the club, and following the announcement at the start of the 1982-83 season that the 64-year-old Paisley would be retiring, Fagan, then 62, was named his successor. The Merseysider had spent 25 years in the Boot Room, and he said after his appointment: "I think it would have been impossible for anyone else to follow Bob. I am not being big-headed, it's just that I know the drill."

A friendly but quiet man, he enjoyed phenomenal success in his debut season, winning the league, European Cup and League Cup. His second season, though, brought disappointment and tragedy. The Reds surrendered the league title to Everton, and lost the European Cup final to Juventus on a day overshadowed by the Heysel disaster.

Fagan had announced before the tragedy that he would step down at the end of the season, saying he was "too old and too tired"; he was succeeded by the 35-year-old player-manager Kenny Dalglish.


Berti Vogts has journeyed the continent since leaving the Germany job © Getty Images
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Berti Vogts (West Germany)
Having enjoyed a hugely successful playing career with Borussia Monchengladbach and West Germany, including the World Cup success of 1974, Vogts took charge of the national team's Under-21 side. In 1986, he was named West Germany assistant manager, working under Franz Beckenbauer, and in 1989 it was announced that Vogts would become manager following the 1990 World Cup. "It is certainly not a dream job," a pessimistic Vogts said when the announcement was made.

West Germany went on to win Italia '90, and afterwards a more optimistic Beckenbauer said of the unified Germany team Vogts was to lead: "I think it will be unbeatable and I am sorry about that for the rest of the world."

Vogts led Germany to the Euro '92 final, where they were defeated by Denmark, before exiting the 1994 World Cup at the quarter-final stage. The unified team claimed glory at Euro '96, but Vogts left after another quarter-final exit at the 1998 World Cup.

Walter Smith (Dundee United, Scotland and Rangers)
Smith worked several jobs as an assistant before arriving at Ibrox. He had begun as an assistant to Jim McLean at Dundee United and, after taking charge of Scotland at youth level, was appointed assistant to Alex Ferguson for the 1986 World Cup.

In April 1986, it had been announced that Smith would leave Dundee United - where he had spent 20 years as a player and coach and had recently been made director - to join new player-manager Graeme Souness at Rangers. "When a job like this comes along, you don't turn it down," he said.

In April 1991, when Souness left to take the Liverpool job, Smith took charge of the first-team. "I've wanted this job ever since I came into the game," he said.

After a failed attempt to prise Manchester United assistant Archie Knox from Old Trafford, Smith oversaw the winning of the title in the final four games of the season and was given the job full-time. He was to become the second most successful Rangers manager of all time, winning ten league titles, five Scottish Cups and six Scottish League Cups across two spells. Only Bill Struth won more silverware with the club, and Smith shared the latter's passion for hard discipline: Kevin Gallacher, a Dundee United apprentice, described him as "absolutely ferocious" and said "full-blooded punches" could be thrown in the dressing room.

Aime Jacquet (France)
Jacquet had enjoyed a hugely successful playing career, winning five league titles with St Etienne, and a similarly decorated club management career, winning three league titles with Bordeaux, when this quiet, almost introverted man decided to step out of the spotlight by taking a job with the Direction Technique Nationale - the organisation charged with overseeing coach and player development in France.

In 1992, he became assistant to new France coach Gerard Houllier - who had himself been promoted from the assistant role - but the pair were unsuccessful. France failed to qualify for USA '94, and Houllier was relieved of his duties.

Jacquet was appointed caretaker manager in 1993, and began building a new team. He made Eric Cantona his captain, but soon after dropped him due to his poor form, and brought in the likes of Zinedine Zidane and Youri Djorkaeff. "We're seeing a change of generations, that's clear," Jacquet said ahead of Euro '96, having done enough to be given the job on a permanent basis.

France reached the semi-finals of Euro '96, going out on penalties to Czech Republic, but Jacquet received frequent criticism in the media in the aftermath as he tinkered with his team in the build-up to the 1998 World Cup in France. Jacquet, of course, led the team to glory on home soil, before again withdrawing from the spotlight to become the country's technical director.


Jose Mourinho - with Andre Villas-Boas while the pair were at Porto © PA Photos
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Jose Mourinho (Barcelona and Benfica)
Mourinho decided at an early age that he wanted to be a manager. His father, a one-time Portugal international, had managed while Jose was in his teens, and as Mourinho Snr recalled: "When he was 15 or 16 he told me he wanted to be a manager. He started to watch the teams we were going to play and prepare reports, and that helped me a lot."

Mourinho, having failed to make the grade as a player, worked as a youth coach at Vitoria de Setubal in Portugal before taking on jobs as an assistant with Estrela da Amadora and Ovarense. Eager to break into the big time, he took a job at Sporting as a translator to Bobby Robson, who quickly noticed his abilities. "Here he was, in his early 30s, never been a player, never been a coach to speak of either, giving me reports as good as anything I ever got," Robson told journalist Patrick Barclay.

Mourinho followed Robson to Porto and, for the 1996-97 season, became his assistant at Barcelona. When Robson was relieved of his position, Mourinho had announced that the duo would depart together, but the Englishman agreed to remain at Camp Nou as the club's general manager and Mourinho was appointed assistant to Louis van Gaal.

In 2000, Mourinho returned to his homeland as Jupp Heynckes' assistant at Benfica, and when the German was sacked early in the season he was given his first taste of management. However, he lasted only nine games before departing after a disagreement with the board. Spurning the opportunity to work as Robson's assistant at Newcastle, he then took charge of Uniao de Leiria and, after impressing, headed to Porto, where he won two league titles, the Taca de Portugal, the UEFA Cup and Champions League.

Joachim Low (Stuttgart and Germany)
Low's playing career was modest, but he was a near instant success as a manager. Having learned the ropes as player-coach at Swiss minnows FC Winterthur and FC Frauenfeld, he became assistant to Rolf Fringer at Stuttgart before being named the team's head coach. There, he won the DFB-Pokal in 1997 and reached the Cup Winners' Cup final the following year.

He spent time abroad with Fenerbahce and Adanaspor in Turkey and then FC Tirol Innsbruck and Austria Vienna before, in 2004, he was brought into the Germany set-up to act as Jurgen Klinsmann's assistant. Employed to add tactical expertise to Klinsmann's passion, the duo led the side to the semi-finals of the 2006 World Cup.

When Klinsmann resigned due to "exhaustion", the DFB turned to his assistant. "It was clear that the successor had to guarantee that the same philosophy could be continued, that this would be an attractive team which would excite the fans and the same methods would be employed," joint DFB president Dr Theo Zwanziger said. "Since the Klinsmann-Low combination could not do that, Low alone was the only option."

Low led a young German side to the Euro 2008 final, the semi-finals of the 2010 World Cup and qualified for Euro 2012 with a 100% record.

Roberto Di Matteo (Chelsea)
Having seen a successful playing career with Chelsea cut short by an injury sustained in September 2000, Di Matteo eventually entered management in 2008 when he took charge of MK Dons. He led the side to third in League One in his first season, missing out on promotion through the play-offs, before taking the West Brom job. He took the Baggies to the top-flight at the first attempt, finishing second in the Championship, but was surprisingly dismissed before the end of his first Premier League campaign.

He accepted the job of assistant manager to Andre Villas-Boas - himself formerly the assistant to Mourinho at Porto and Inter - in the summer of 2011, but the signs were not positive as the Portuguese failed to successfully implement his philosophy on a club whose methods were firmly entrenched. Di Matteo was appointed caretaker manager in March after Villas-Boas was dismissed, but the early signs were not positive - AVB had been plagued by leaks to the press during his time in charge, and a source told the Sun after Di Matteo's appointment: "The players could not stand AVB because of his arrogance but, if anything, they like Roberto even less."

However, he has outstripped all expectation, losing only one match in the Premier League while taking the Blues to the FA Cup and Champions League finals, and is now primed to take the role on a permanent basis.

This would be disappointing in my opinion!


For things to improve we need to move away from the current set up! It' hasn't worked! Moving slade upstairs and putting Trollope in charge with the same coaches is hardly going to make things different!

I don't see how this is the change to a modern approach on football! It's not inspiring and I can't see how it will sell thousands more season tickets?

I'm up for most options but keeping with the current regime is not one of them!

FAIR PLAY GREAT CARL AND THAT PUTS AN END TO ALL THE RUMOURS

Excuse me Annis but how does this put an end to all the rumours as this is just a rumour as well!

This would be disappointing in my opinion!


For things to improve we need to move away from the current set up! It' hasn't worked! Moving slade upstairs and putting Trollope in charge with the same coaches is hardly going to make things different!

I don't see how this is the change to a modern approach on football! It's not inspiring and I can't see how it will sell thousands more season tickets?

I'm up for most options but keeping with the current regime is not one of them!

While I can understand why you think that I think it's harsh.

Trollope wasn't in charge, he has to do as he was told and could not make the decisions, the obvious decisions eveyone could see from a very stubborn Slade .
It's like if you or anyone took over from their boss, you wouldn't be expected to be judged on his performance and would come in with your own ideas even though you helped develop his ideas.

Who knows maybe the club want Trollope to be the assistant again not the manager, and he won't sign until he knows who the manager will be. I think it's best to wait and see as it could end up being someone nobody expected.

I would like to see Trollope take the job. It's who he had as his No.2 that will be interesting. Maybe this is where Rowberry May come in or Trollope may be wanting to bring his own assistant in. Good luck to him, think this would be a sensible appointment by the club.