Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:12 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:17 pm
Martyn1963 wrote:Its also possible that Carl thought Mike was representing the board and that it was OK to post , this is just a misunderstanding and being blown out of proportions a little , so Mike re think your resignation . Im a Trust member and am entitled to my say , hope everybody else commenting is a member too ??
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:23 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:27 pm
Dreamlike or Chic wrote:Claude Blue wrote:Simply, I'd like to know why Mr.Roderick invited Carl Curtis to become a "director" of CCST?
Surely common courtesy would have required him to have discussed it with fellow board members at CCST?
I'm equally concerned as to why Carl decided to put what was clearly a personal email into the public domain.
Either of you care to enlighten me?
Yes, I did ask Carl if he would be willing to be co-opted on to the Trust
board because it seemed to me that it would be advantageous to the Trust to
have him working with us due to the evident inside sources he has at the
Club. My idea was if we got Carl on board, we would be in a better
position to manage how all the inside information he posts gets presented.
Putting it bluntly, I thought it would be better to have him inside the tent
peeing out, rather than outside the tent peeing in.
I was alarmed when I saw that Carl had made our brief telephone conversation
public and immediately asked him via private message to delete his post from
the board. I've also made it clear to him that the Trust board would have
the final say on whether he could be co-opted. Unfortunately, he hasn't
repsonded to my message.
I also immediatley sent a PM to BlueinHeath explaining the above and asking him to reconsider resigning his membership. I sent a further plea to him by email this morning at 10.30 this morning.
I've made a gross error of judgement as has been pointed out to me since and since I have damaged the Trust's reputation and cost us a member, I will offer my resignation at the Trust board meeting tonight.
I sincerely apologise to everyone and won't be making any further public comment until I know whether or not I am continuing on the Trust board.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:28 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:36 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:40 pm
croesybluebird wrote:My god, just wait until TLG gets his teeth into this one.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:42 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:44 pm
croesybluebird wrote:I'm not apportioning any blame on Mike - this is just a situation that TLG will revel in, thats all.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:46 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:47 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:48 pm
croesybluebird wrote:I'm sure he will read the thread on the CCMB and make his feelings known on this issue.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 1:53 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:16 pm
steve davies wrote:i would suggest that forum members should not publish or reveal private messages or e,mails they have received from other members and then these situations would not arise.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:35 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:40 pm
steve davies wrote:["Forever Blue"]["steve davies"]i would suggest that forum members should not publish or reveal private messages or e,mails they have received from other members and then these situations would not arise. [
Steve they chatted and I was privy to the conversation.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 2:49 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 3:49 pm
croesybluebird wrote:I'm not apportioning any blame on Mike - this is just a situation that TLG will revel in, thats all.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:08 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:11 pm
nerd wrote:croesybluebird wrote:I'm not apportioning any blame on Mike - this is just a situation that TLG will revel in, thats all.
Well, a similar thing kinda happened with TLG.
From memory, he wasn't going to stand initially - lack of time. Steering group members "convinced" him to stand (from memory, I seem to recall TLG saying he was told the post wouldn't require much of his time) - and let's be honest, first election, anyone involved in setting it up would get voted in regardless.
Granted not directly co-opting, but the steering committee played a part in convincing him to stand.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:12 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:30 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:37 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:57 pm
Dreamlike or Chic wrote:Uccello Azzurro wrote:2blue2handle wrote:Personally I would say that is a positive move however I do think that should be a choice of every trust member in a vote.
As i say it would have my backing
As I understand them, the Trust's rules say that any new Board member would have to be (i) elected by the membership to join the Board or (ii) co-opted under a vote at a properly convened Board meeting where two-thirds of those present support a resolution to appoint by way of a vote. My own view at this stage in the Trust's development is that all Board members should be approved by a vote among the entire membership, but the rules allow for 3 members to be appointed through co-option.
That's correct. It was my own idea to co-opt Carl but I'm a bit embarrassed it's come out in public as I haven't talked it over with anyone on the board yet.
To clear up Lawnmower's question about directors......the Trust is run by a board of directors like a company is although it's a "mutual society" registered with the FSA rather than a company registered with Companies House. Therefore, the directors are elected by the members rather than appointed by shareholders.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:08 pm
Eddie May wrote:Lawnmower they are a joke
Tue Jul 13, 2010 5:16 pm
Dreamlike or Chic wrote:Claude Blue wrote:Simply, I'd like to know why Mr.Roderick invited Carl Curtis to become a "director" of CCST?
Surely common courtesy would have required him to have discussed it with fellow board members at CCST?
I'm equally concerned as to why Carl decided to put what was clearly a personal email into the public domain.
Either of you care to enlighten me?
Yes, I did ask Carl if he would be willing to be co-opted on to the Trust
board because it seemed to me that it would be advantageous to the Trust to
have him working with us due to the evident inside sources he has at the
Club. My idea was if we got Carl on board, we would be in a better
position to manage how all the inside information he posts gets presented.
Putting it bluntly, I thought it would be better to have him inside the tent
peeing out, rather than outside the tent peeing in.
I was alarmed when I saw that Carl had made our brief telephone conversation
public and immediately asked him via private message to delete his post from
the board. I've also made it clear to him that the Trust board would have
the final say on whether he could be co-opted. Unfortunately, he hasn't
repsonded to my message.
I also immediatley sent a PM to BlueinHeath explaining the above and asking him to reconsider resigning his membership. I sent a further plea to him by email this morning at 10.30 this morning.
I've made a gross error of judgement as has been pointed out to me since and since I have damaged the Trust's reputation and cost us a member, I will offer my resignation at the Trust board meeting tonight.
I sincerely apologise to everyone and won't be making any further public comment until I know whether or not I am continuing on the Trust board.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:03 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:08 pm
Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:11 pm
Claude Blue wrote:That's good news.
Mike has apologised and stated his reasons.
I would be very interested to hear why Carl chose to make a private conversation public.
It would help to dispel the obvious conspiracy theory.
Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:06 pm