' TAN SPLASHING THE CASH '

The final parachute payment I think is £8m , I can't see Vincent Tan worrying too much about that .Especially when he's put in £150m Money is not as important to him as saving Face.
Don't forget he has pledged half his wealth to charity in his will .
Half a billion pounds (whatever a billion is)

Every player is a gamble some players fit clubs other times the club don't fit the player for what ever reason look at Alf so every player is a gamble in a way.
To get a decent striker is going to cost big every one moans tans not spending and then when he does people moan I no people have a right to there say but can't keep everyone happy.
For me RL is a decent signing been there seen it done it got the experience to shine .
So the pedigree is there the staff at the club no the player he knows them we no he scores goals so as for the money .
We just sold key players to my annoyance but at least we got a good striker now the club is balancing the books as they should and its no different to the other 35 years I've supported city so no change there.
I will give pt my support as with slade his his hands are tied a bit but his new philosophy is existing to see how it will develop and Lambert might be the new shining light we all asked for up front.
So lets try be positive and see what happens

The final parachute payment I think is £8m. I can't see Vincent Tan worrying too much about that. Especially when he's put in £150m

Money is not as important to him as saving Face. Don't forget he has pledged half his wealth to charity in his will. Half a billion pounds (whatever a billion is)

£1,000,000,000 (one thousand million)

Up to 15% of his wealth put into Cardiff City FC depending on which figures are correct or to be believed

But remember Vincent Tan has got a lot of that money back via recouped transfer fees, a year in the Premier League and four years of Parachute Payments. He states that he will reduce the club's (therefor his) debt even further by 2021; albeit that the Parachute Payments will end next season (2017/18)

Someone far better in finances than me will surely put me right, but the way I look at it is that there is only so much income the club can now bring in without another promotion. This income will be heavily governed by a mix of FFP, Vincent Tan's desire to cut the debt as a priority and any income streams (player sales, crowds, merchandise, concerts, etc.) that can be generated in the meantime

Either way (even taking into account the astronomical wages and associated running costs of a Championship club with Premier League wages until now) it means that Vincent Tan's debt has been reduced by some margin and the amount of money to be recouped through the sale of the club will lessen substantially

Of course, a return to the Premier League itself would have a major impact and Vincent Tan might yet bow out leaving his perceived 'honour' intact, Cardiff City FC 'debt-free' and able to claim "job done!"

The final parachute payment I think is £8m. I can't see Vincent Tan worrying too much about that. Especially when he's put in £150m

Money is not as important to him as saving Face. Don't forget he has pledged half his wealth to charity in his will. Half a billion pounds (whatever a billion is)

£1,000,000,000 (one thousand million)

Up to 15% of his wealth put into Cardiff City FC depending on which figures are correct or to be believed

But remember Vincent Tan has got a lot of that money back via recouped transfer fees, a year in the Premier League and four years of Parachute Payments. He states that he will reduce the club's (therefor his) debt even further by 2021; albeit that the Parachute Payments will end next season (2017/18)

Someone far better in finances than me will surely put me right, but the way I look at it is that there is only so much income the club can now bring in without another promotion. This income will be heavily governed by a mix of FFP, Vincent Tan's desire to cut the debt as a priority and any income streams (player sales, crowds, merchandise, concerts, etc.) that can be generated in the meantime

Either way (even taking into account the astronomical wages and associated running costs of a Championship club with Premier League wages until now) it means that Vincent Tan's debt has been reduced by some margin and the amount of money to be recouped through the sale of the club will lessen substantially

Of course, a return to the Premier League itself would have a major impact and Vincent Tan might yet bow out leaving his perceived 'honour' intact, Cardiff City FC 'debt-free' and able to claim "job done!"

I haven't got a problem with what you say. Tan has certainly improved our financial position, whether you like how he's done it or not.

However, there is one weakness with your final paragraph. In order for Tan to "bow out" we would need someone to come in and pay at least a decent proportion of what we have cost him and, frankly, he's the only person in the last 20+ years who has put in more than he has taken out and I see no queue of people waiting to invest right now.

Doesn't really matter if Carl is on the money with his comments regarding Lambert's wages or not, really. He can only supply the information he is given and trusts to be correct

The important thing is that Tan appears to have backed his coaching team in their acquisition of a proven striker without the need for a big transfer fee and it doesn't take a genius to work out that Lambert won't have come cheap, given the option of sitting on his backside for

It will use some of the doom and gloom merchants on here but the simple fact is there will have not been a better 'value for money' transfer of a proven striker in this transfer window!

Apologies in advance if that's too positive for some on here!

I didn't say Carl shouldnt post it i'm saying to the ones who are taking it as a fact that what Carl has quoted what hes heard and it may or may not be correct.
I think its a great bit of business for city with his experience and hopefully his finishing

Jason, I wasn't criticising you and I don't recall responding directly to your OP or other posts. I was just pointing out that any information posted on here is effectively 'best knowledge' and often not fact

RV Casual refers to my 'doom and gloom' comment and in all seriousness can anyone really say there aren't people on here (many of whom have long since abandoned the club in commitment terms) who are out to undermine and/or demean the club at every opportunity?

Doesn't really matter if Carl is on the money with his comments regarding Lambert's wages or not, really. He can only supply the information he is given and trusts to be correct

The important thing is that Tan appears to have backed his coaching team in their acquisition of a proven striker without the need for a big transfer fee and it doesn't take a genius to work out that Lambert won't have come cheap, given the option of sitting on his backside for

It will use some of the doom and gloom merchants on here but the simple fact is there will have not been a better 'value for money' transfer of a proven striker in this transfer window!

Apologies in advance if that's too positive for some on here!

I didn't say Carl shouldnt post it i'm saying to the ones who are taking it as a fact that what Carl has quoted what hes heard and it may or may not be correct.
I think its a great bit of business for city with his experience and hopefully his finishing

Jason, I wasn't criticising you and I don't recall responding directly to your OP or other posts. I was just pointing out that any information posted on here is effectively 'best knowledge' and often not fact

RV Casual refers to my 'doom and gloom' comment and in all seriousness can anyone really say there aren't people on here (many of whom have long since abandoned the club in commitment terms) who are out to undermine and/or demean the club at every opportunity?

Sven, of course there are people like you say mate but I think you need to separate the two at times. When someone has a legitimate reason for not liking something, providing they can give a constructive reason for their conclusions (which I think I have) I think its fair enough.

As I have said, I don't understand why we have given an ageing striker who's recent form is poor and was out of contract next summer a two year contract on £32,000 a week with an option for another one. He's almost 35.

Time after time its been said on here that we have wasted money, given stupid contracts etc etc, well this does not show me we have learned from our mistakes.

Another journeyman on the CCFC gravy train. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

No history with injuries like fowler and the like.

If he scores, who can complain?

I'd rather one scoring striker on £32k than 3 non scoring strikers on over £100,000 a week combined

Doesn't really matter if Carl is on the money with his comments regarding Lambert's wages or not, really. He can only supply the information he is given and trusts to be correct

The important thing is that Tan appears to have backed his coaching team in their acquisition of a proven striker without the need for a big transfer fee and it doesn't take a genius to work out that Lambert won't have come cheap, given the option of sitting on his backside for

It will use some of the doom and gloom merchants on here but the simple fact is there will have not been a better 'value for money' transfer of a proven striker in this transfer window!

Apologies in advance if that's too positive for some on here!

I didn't say Carl shouldnt post it i'm saying to the ones who are taking it as a fact that what Carl has quoted what hes heard and it may or may not be correct.
I think its a great bit of business for city with his experience and hopefully his finishing

Jason, I wasn't criticising you and I don't recall responding directly to your OP or other posts. I was just pointing out that any information posted on here is effectively 'best knowledge' and often not fact

RV Casual refers to my 'doom and gloom' comment and in all seriousness can anyone really say there aren't people on here (many of whom have long since abandoned the club in commitment terms) who are out to undermine and/or demean the club at every opportunity?

Sven, of course there are people like you say mate but I think you need to separate the two at times. When someone has a legitimate reason for not liking something, providing they can give a constructive reason for their conclusions (which I think I have) I think its fair enough.

As I have said, I don't understand why we have given an ageing striker who's recent form is poor and was out of contract next summer a two year contract on £32,000 a week with an option for another one. He's almost 35.

Time after time its been said on here that we have wasted money, given stupid contracts etc etc, well this does not show me we have learned from our mistakes.

Another journeyman on the CCFC gravy train. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

Unfortunately RV I fear you are right. I can't believe that we have given him such a ridiculous contract. The possibility of a third year is particularly ridiculous.

Sven, of course there are people like you say mate but I think you need to separate the two at times. When someone has a legitimate reason for not liking something, providing they can give a constructive reason for their conclusions (which I think I have) I think its fair enough.

As I have said, I don't understand why we have given an ageing striker who's recent form is poor and was out of contract next summer a two year contract on £32,000 a week with an option for another one. He's almost 35.

Time after time its been said on here that we have wasted money, given stupid contracts etc etc, well this does not show me we have learned from our mistakes.

Another journeyman on the CCFC gravy train. I sincerely hope I am wrong.

I think you have made a reasonable point and this deal does have the potential to be another Jones, Le Fondre or Fatboy.

It also has potential to go the other way as we have seen a decent older striker igniting a season before.

I’m looking at the bigger picture in that the club has made significant savings releasing funds to be reinvested. There have been many calls for the wage savings and transfer fees to be used to buy a striker. The overall cost is apparently £2-3m over 2 years which seems a reasonable risk to reward.

Also the manager and LL have both worked with the player previously and there is a good relationship between both which hopefully will negate the journeyman factor.

Lambert is not like the other mercenaries and will give his all to the cause. If it doesn't work out it won't be because he didn't want to be here like the others.
He has never been quick so with service should get 15 goals. We are going to be dangerous from whitts set plays

Robbie fowler all over this for me

Robbie fowler all over this for me

no chance ,lambert is fit, we signed fowler injured and he was a piss head

Ibrahimovic is 35 next month playing for the biggest club in England. He has played 1 more game in his career than Lambert (Wiki ?). Target men are different to the speedster or reaction dependent Fowler types.

The learning a player like Zahore will receive may also pay dividends. I think we may need to change our set up a bit as I believe we'll need Whitts a lot wider and further up field to feed the beast.

Ibrahimovic is 35 next month playing for the biggest club in England. He has played 1 more game in his career than Lambert (Wiki ?). Target men are different to the speedster or reaction dependent Fowler types.

The learning a player like Zahore will receive may also pay dividends. I think we may need to change our set up a bit as I believe we'll need Whitts a lot wider and further up field to feed the beast.

I would go back to 442 at home and 352 away

Zlatan is a world class player who has performed consistently at the top top level for the majority of his career.

Ricky Lambert spent most of his career in league 1 and below.

Your positivity is admirable but the post a few above is mental to be fair.

Tan out because he has funded only one move, with the money. I had enough of the guy cheap talking.

Ibrahimovic is 35 next month playing for the biggest club in England. He has played 1 more game in his career than Lambert (Wiki ?). Target men are different to the speedster or reaction dependent Fowler types.

The learning a player like Zahore will receive may also pay dividends. I think we may need to change our set up a bit as I believe we'll need Whitts a lot wider and further up field to feed the beast.

Good post. I think Lambert will prove to be a good signing and the influence he could have on our younger strikers like Zohore could be invaluable.

The final parachute payment I think is £8m. I can't see Vincent Tan worrying too much about that. Especially when he's put in £150m

Money is not as important to him as saving Face. Don't forget he has pledged half his wealth to charity in his will. Half a billion pounds (whatever a billion is)

£1,000,000,000 (one thousand million)

Up to 15% of his wealth put into Cardiff City FC depending on which figures are correct or to be believed

But remember Vincent Tan has got a lot of that money back via recouped transfer fees, a year in the Premier League and four years of Parachute Payments. He states that he will reduce the club's (therefor his) debt even further by 2021; albeit that the Parachute Payments will end next season (2017/18)

Someone far better in finances than me will surely put me right, but the way I look at it is that there is only so much income the club can now bring in without another promotion. This income will be heavily governed by a mix of FFP, Vincent Tan's desire to cut the debt as a priority and any income streams (player sales, crowds, merchandise, concerts, etc.) that can be generated in the meantime

Either way (even taking into account the astronomical wages and associated running costs of a Championship club with Premier League wages until now) it means that Vincent Tan's debt has been reduced by some margin and the amount of money to be recouped through the sale of the club will lessen substantially

Of course, a return to the Premier League itself would have a major impact and Vincent Tan might yet bow out leaving his perceived 'honour' intact, Cardiff City FC 'debt-free' and able to claim "job done!"

Sven, I usually agree with a lot of what you post, but I cannot see where you get the idea from that Vincent Tan has got a lot (or indeed any) of his initial investment money back.

The income figures you refer to just reduced the losses that would otherwise have been made and only one small net profit in one year of his time here has been made. The only reason his debt has been reduced is by his write off of some of the debt and by debt conversion of a small part of the rest of the debt. He has had no repayments.

Keith