“ MALKY MACKAY “

Malky wasn’t at all arsed about the red. To quote him ‘that side doesn’t affect me’ whereas Warnock would have seen the impact and had an input.

He also briefed against the club to get the fans on side when he knew he had done stuff that was deserving of the sack. He put himself over the club and it was massively detrimental to the club.

Tan was always going to react the way he did. Anyone who knows anything about his culture knows it would always be that way.

I have one question.

How do you think Sam would have dealt with Malky after his racism and after the signing of Cornelius?

Sam would have sacked him in the August ......

Or the season before when we were hammered by the Wurzels.

Skid, you can’t let those attractive, flowing football lies go.

For attractive flowing football I’d have to say Dave Jones’ side was that. Unfortunately they had a habit of bottling the big occasion and there have been numerous accounts of players basically doing what they wanted.
Malky’s style of football wasn’t as exciting imo but it was effective. He didn’t tolerate bottlers and insisted on 100% effort.
It would have been interesting to see how Malloy would have done with the team that DJ had at his disposal.
All interesting comments to debate though

Well he had some of the best players left. Spine of the team.

Malky made Whitts a guy who took set pieces. He did this very well of course but the Whitts who popped up with class goals making late runs was gone under Malky.

You are 100% right about not having bottlers however if DJ had the money Malky he would have produced a very good side I think, one that was ready for the premier league.

Malky wasn’t at all arsed about the red. To quote him ‘that side doesn’t affect me’ whereas Warnock would have seen the impact and had an input.

He also briefed against the club to get the fans on side when he knew he had done stuff that was deserving of the sack. He put himself over the club and it was massively detrimental to the club.

Tan was always going to react the way he did. Anyone who knows anything about his culture knows it would always be that way.

I have one question.

How do you think Sam would have dealt with Malky after his racism and after the signing of Cornelius?

Sam would have sacked him in the August ......

Or the season before when we were hammered by the Wurzels.

Skid, you can’t let those attractive, flowing football lies go.

it was anything but.... but it was effective for the first 2 years....
very tough competition this one... ..but im going with Tan was Jealous of Malky .. so for spite gave him the biggest budget any newly promoted manager had ever had for their first prem window....

Malky wasn’t at all arsed about the red. To quote him ‘that side doesn’t affect me’ whereas Warnock would have seen the impact and had an input.

He also briefed against the club to get the fans on side when he knew he had done stuff that was deserving of the sack. He put himself over the club and it was massively detrimental to the club.

Tan was always going to react the way he did. Anyone who knows anything about his culture knows it would always be that way.

I have one question.

How do you think Sam would have dealt with Malky after his racism and after the signing of Cornelius?

Sam would have sacked him in the August ......

Or the season before when we were hammered by the Wurzels.

Skid, you can’t let those attractive, flowing football lies go.

For attractive flowing football I’d have to say Dave Jones’ side was that. Unfortunately they had a habit of bottling the big occasion and there have been numerous accounts of players basically doing what they wanted.
Malky’s style of football wasn’t as exciting imo but it was effective. He didn’t tolerate bottlers and insisted on 100% effort.
It would have been interesting to see how Malloy would have done with the team that DJ had at his disposal.
All interesting comments to debate though

not sure he would have got anything like the same as DJ got out of them tbh { no one else has ? } ....Malky was more the disciplinarian and brought a raft of players in more suited to his style and had a bigger budget....losing 3 first team players who had been to some degree hard work everywhere they had been and then having a blank canvas was in his own words ...a bonus...

Malky wasn’t at all arsed about the red. To quote him ‘that side doesn’t affect me’ whereas Warnock would have seen the impact and had an input.

He also briefed against the club to get the fans on side when he knew he had done stuff that was deserving of the sack. He put himself over the club and it was massively detrimental to the club.

Tan was always going to react the way he did. Anyone who knows anything about his culture knows it would always be that way.

I have one question.

How do you think Sam would have dealt with Malky after his racism and after the signing of Cornelius?

Sam would have sacked him in the August ......

Or the season before when we were hammered by the Wurzels.

Skid, you can’t let those attractive, flowing football lies go.

For attractive flowing football I’d have to say Dave Jones’ side was that. Unfortunately they had a habit of bottling the big occasion and there have been numerous accounts of players basically doing what they wanted.
Malky’s style of football wasn’t as exciting imo but it was effective. He didn’t tolerate bottlers and insisted on 100% effort.
It would have been interesting to see how Malloy would have done with the team that DJ had at his disposal.
All interesting comments to debate though

not sure he would have got anything like the same as DJ got out of them tbh { no one else has ? } ....Malky was more the disciplinarian and brought a raft of players in more suited to his style and had a bigger budget....losing 3 first team players who had been to some degree hard work everywhere they had been and then having a blank canvas was in his own words ...a bonus...

Fair points.

Malky wasn’t at all arsed about the red. To quote him ‘that side doesn’t affect me’ whereas Warnock would have seen the impact and had an input.

He also briefed against the club to get the fans on side when he knew he had done stuff that was deserving of the sack. He put himself over the club and it was massively detrimental to the club.

Tan was always going to react the way he did. Anyone who knows anything about his culture knows it would always be that way.

I have one question.

How do you think Sam would have dealt with Malky after his racism and after the signing of Cornelius?

I can't answer for Sam Hamman but I do have a serious question for you, since you stand so strongly on the matter.

If one of your RAF buddies made a joke about Koreans eating dogs, say for example in the company of known and trusted friends and you overheard it - would you report them for racism and try to get them sacked?

Last edited by nubbsy on Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:07 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Malky wasn’t at all arsed about the red. To quote him ‘that side doesn’t affect me’ whereas Warnock would have seen the impact and had an input.

He also briefed against the club to get the fans on side when he knew he had done stuff that was deserving of the sack. He put himself over the club and it was massively detrimental to the club.

Tan was always going to react the way he did. Anyone who knows anything about his culture knows it would always be that way.

I have one question.

How do you think Sam would have dealt with Malky after his racism and after the signing of Cornelius?

I can't answer for Sam Hamman but I do have a serious question for you, since you stand so strongly on the matter.

If one of your RAF buddies made a joke about Koreans eating dogs, say for example in the company of known and trusted friends and you overheard it - would you report them for racism and try to get them sacked?

he was not reported by anyone for the emails / texts .... they were found on his devices months after he was sacked during the investigation into transfer activity by him and Moody........

Malky wasn’t at all arsed about the red. To quote him ‘that side doesn’t affect me’ whereas Warnock would have seen the impact and had an input.

He also briefed against the club to get the fans on side when he knew he had done stuff that was deserving of the sack. He put himself over the club and it was massively detrimental to the club.

Tan was always going to react the way he did. Anyone who knows anything about his culture knows it would always be that way.

I have one question.

How do you think Sam would have dealt with Malky after his racism and after the signing of Cornelius?

I can't answer for Sam Hamman but I do have a serious question for you, since you stand so strongly on the matter.

If one of your RAF buddies made a joke about Koreans eating dogs, say for example in the company of known and trusted friends and you overheard it - would you report them for racism and try to get them sacked?

Of course not. However, if they sent emails on work computers and were caught I wouldn’t have much sympathy for them.

Malky wasn’t at all arsed about the red. To quote him ‘that side doesn’t affect me’ whereas Warnock would have seen the impact and had an input.

He also briefed against the club to get the fans on side when he knew he had done stuff that was deserving of the sack. He put himself over the club and it was massively detrimental to the club.

Tan was always going to react the way he did. Anyone who knows anything about his culture knows it would always be that way.

I have one question.

How do you think Sam would have dealt with Malky after his racism and after the signing of Cornelius?

I can't answer for Sam Hamman but I do have a serious question for you, since you stand so strongly on the matter.

If one of your RAF buddies made a joke about Koreans eating dogs, say for example in the company of known and trusted friends and you overheard it - would you report them for racism and try to get them sacked?

Of course not. However, if they sent emails on work computers and were caught I wouldn’t have much sympathy for them.

mate.... if tan had access to these racist sexist homophobic emails and was the reason for the sacking dont you think he would have just said that ? the media , local MPs, councilors would all have been slaughtering MM ? and..boy would our fans have looked terrible supporting MM had this been out there.... ... would have been an easy sacking instead we had a couple of months of doubt....
no idea why people go on about it because it had as much to do with him being sacked as what your having for tea does ....
the whole emails thing was found months later when not even being looked for...VT sat on them for a couple of months and then revealed them just as MM was about to get the Palace job....

Remember the good times and the positive vibes under Malky, we would all love to have them times back! He was destroyed by our power happy owners! Hope he does well in his new job doesn't deserve the flack from our illustrious owner!

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

Malky wasn’t at all arsed about the red. To quote him ‘that side doesn’t affect me’ whereas Warnock would have seen the impact and had an input.

He also briefed against the club to get the fans on side when he knew he had done stuff that was deserving of the sack. He put himself over the club and it was massively detrimental to the club.

Tan was always going to react the way he did. Anyone who knows anything about his culture knows it would always be that way.

I have one question.

How do you think Sam would have dealt with Malky after his racism and after the signing of Cornelius?

Sam would have sacked him in the August ......

Or the season before when we were hammered by the Wurzels.

Skid, you can’t let those attractive, flowing football lies go.

it was anything but.... but it was effective for the first 2 years....
very tough competition this one... ..but im going with Tan was Jealous of Malky .. so for spite gave him the biggest budget any newly promoted manager had ever had for their first prem window....

The thing is. Some will be reading that, nodding and going yep that Tan is a tw*t.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

Neil, your obsession against Malky, due to your support and love for Tan, is totally over shadowing your judgement.
I have only put 3% of the replies on fb on here and its funny all these Cardiff City fans on Facebook with their real names/photos all supported and love Malky.

Your entitled to your opinion like them and me, but his record at Cardiff City was fantastic until Tan turned on him and Malky will go down in history as a hero, even though Tan was obsessed to ruin his reputation.

For me Malky is in My top 5 managers at Cardiff City and this is my 50th consecutive season

Remember the good times and the positive vibes under Malky, we would all love to have them times back! He was destroyed by our power happy owners! Hope he does well in his new job doesn't deserve the flack from our illustrious owner!

Most of the positive times under Malky were when we were red.

So, you enjoyed being in red?

Want those time back? Back in red?

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

Neil, your obsession against Malky, due to your support and love for Tan, is totally over shadowing your judgement.
I have only put 3% of the replies on fb on here and its funny all these Cardiff City fans on Facebook with their real names/photos all supported and love Malky.

Your entitled to your opinion like them and me, but his record at Cardiff City was fantastic until Tan turned on him and Malky will go down in history as a hero, even though Tan was obsessed to ruin his reputation.

For me Malky is in My top 5 managers at Cardiff City and this is my 50th consecutive season

Annis, you know full well I’ve not got a love for Tan just a respect. We have discussed this many times. For you to say so is disingenuous.

I just see Malky for what he was. Not a great manager who had a loooootttttttttt of support. He’s not a Warnock or even a Dave Jones. He’s probably the third best manager we have had in the 2000s in my opinion.

He got promoted from the championship with a points total that wouldn’t have been promoted most other seasons scoring the least goals a title winning side have ever scored.

I don’t hate Malky. I am sad that with the resources he had he didn’t make us better for longer. I just can’t abide bollocks and when people talk bollocks I have to pull them for it. I can’t help it.

The guy who said we would still be in the premier if Tan had kept Malky in charge is wrong. However, had DJ been given the same money as Malky then we might have been.

Remember the good times and the positive vibes under Malky, we would all love to have them times back! He was destroyed by our power happy owners! Hope he does well in his new job doesn't deserve the flack from our illustrious owner!

Most of the positive times under Malky were when we were red.

So, you enjoyed being in red?

Want those time back? Back in red?

The best season under Malky was actually 2011-2012 with the league cup final and playoffs on a much lower budget and the good feelings from unexpectedly overachieving given the player departures in summer 2011. The football was much better too, only after the 5-4 defeat to Charlton in 2012-13 did we start tightening up.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

We only needed six more points than we ended up getting to stay up and we had some very good home fixtures that we ended up losing that I think we would have won under Malky. Palace, Hull, West Ham, Villa, Sunderland, Stoke. We only got 3 points out of 18 available from those games. We only needed 9-10 points out of them to stay up. Given our record against those type of teams under Malky I think we would have got it and then pushed on to consolidate in PL. Look at Malky's old assistant Dyche and the success he has had at Burnley. It may not be pretty but its effective and Malky would have attempted a similar thing here but with more money than Dyche has had.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

Neil, your obsession against Malky, due to your support and love for Tan, is totally over shadowing your judgement.
I have only put 3% of the replies on fb on here and its funny all these Cardiff City fans on Facebook with their real names/photos all supported and love Malky.

Your entitled to your opinion like them and me, but his record at Cardiff City was fantastic until Tan turned on him and Malky will go down in history as a hero, even though Tan was obsessed to ruin his reputation.

For me Malky is in My top 5 managers at Cardiff City and this is my 50th consecutive season

Annis, you know full well I’ve not got a love for Tan just a respect. We have discussed this many times. For you to say so is disingenuous.

I just see Malky for what he was. Not a great manager who had a loooootttttttttt of support. He’s not a Warnock or even a Dave Jones. He’s probably the third best manager we have had in the 2000s in my opinion.

He got promoted from the championship with a points total that wouldn’t have been promoted most other seasons scoring the least goals a title winning side have ever scored.

I don’t hate Malky. I am sad that with the resources he had he didn’t make us better for longer. I just can’t abide bollocks and when people talk bollocks I have to pull them for it. I can’t help it.

The guy who said we would still be in the premier if Tan had kept Malky in charge is wrong. However, had DJ been given the same money as Malky then we might have been.

DJ had a better squad than Malky and did not get promoted. Both Malky and Warnock would have taken our 2008-2011 squads up at some point.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

We only needed six more points than we ended up getting to stay up and we had some very good home fixtures that we ended up losing that I think we would have won under Malky. Palace, Hull, West Ham, Villa, Sunderland, Stoke. We only got 3 points out of 18 available from those games. We only needed 9-10 points out of them to stay up. Given our record against those type of teams under Malky I think we would have got it and then pushed on to consolidate in PL. Look at Malky's old assistant Dyche and the success he has had at Burnley. It may not be pretty but its effective and Malky would have attempted a similar thing here but with more money than Dyche has had.

We lost three nil to Southampton who were on a losing run themselves. That was under Malky.

We had beeb found out. Teams knew how to stop us.

So DJ had a better squad than Malky? Yet had a third if not lower than his money.

Malky’s best players were DJ players.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

Neil, your obsession against Malky, due to your support and love for Tan, is totally over shadowing your judgement.
I have only put 3% of the replies on fb on here and its funny all these Cardiff City fans on Facebook with their real names/photos all supported and love Malky.

Your entitled to your opinion like them and me, but his record at Cardiff City was fantastic until Tan turned on him and Malky will go down in history as a hero, even though Tan was obsessed to ruin his reputation.

For me Malky is in My top 5 managers at Cardiff City and this is my 50th consecutive season

Annis, you know full well I’ve not got a love for Tan just a respect. We have discussed this many times. For you to say so is disingenuous.

I just see Malky for what he was. Not a great manager who had a loooootttttttttt of support. He’s not a Warnock or even a Dave Jones. He’s probably the third best manager we have had in the 2000s in my opinion.

He got promoted from the championship with a points total that wouldn’t have been promoted most other seasons scoring the least goals a title winning side have ever scored.

I don’t hate Malky. I am sad that with the resources he had he didn’t make us better for longer. I just can’t abide bollocks and when people talk bollocks I have to pull them for it. I can’t help it.

The guy who said we would still be in the premier if Tan had kept Malky in charge is wrong. However, had DJ been given the same money as Malky then we might have been.

You cant say someone's opinion is wrong and yours is right based on something that never happened. We'll never know how that season would have gone. We could have been well relegated, we could have survived by a point or we could have pulled away. Every season in the prem teams are in and out of the relegation zone up until the last games of the season .

It is pretty well document that Dave Jones let players do whatever they wanted. Its probably the main reason he never got us promoted. I loved the football under Jones but there is nothing to suggest he would have kept us in the prem as he bottled the big occasions.

The fans choose Malky over Tan and Tan then did his best to ruin his career.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

We only needed six more points than we ended up getting to stay up and we had some very good home fixtures that we ended up losing that I think we would have won under Malky. Palace, Hull, West Ham, Villa, Sunderland, Stoke. We only got 3 points out of 18 available from those games. We only needed 9-10 points out of them to stay up. Given our record against those type of teams under Malky I think we would have got it and then pushed on to consolidate in PL. Look at Malky's old assistant Dyche and the success he has had at Burnley. It may not be pretty but its effective and Malky would have attempted a similar thing here but with more money than Dyche has had.

We lost three nil to Southampton who were on a losing run themselves. That was under Malky.

We had beeb found out. Teams knew how to stop us.

So DJ had a better squad than Malky? Yet had a third if not lower than his money.

Malky’s best players were DJ players.

That Southampton side was a top 8 side at the time and managed by Pochettino - it would have been a great result if we drew let alone won

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

We only needed six more points than we ended up getting to stay up and we had some very good home fixtures that we ended up losing that I think we would have won under Malky. Palace, Hull, West Ham, Villa, Sunderland, Stoke. We only got 3 points out of 18 available from those games. We only needed 9-10 points out of them to stay up. Given our record against those type of teams under Malky I think we would have got it and then pushed on to consolidate in PL. Look at Malky's old assistant Dyche and the success he has had at Burnley. It may not be pretty but its effective and Malky would have attempted a similar thing here but with more money than Dyche has had.

We lost three nil to Southampton who were on a losing run themselves. That was under Malky.

We had beeb found out. Teams knew how to stop us.

So DJ had a better squad than Malky? Yet had a third if not lower than his money.

Malky’s best players were DJ players.

That Southampton side was a top 8 side at the time and managed by Pochettino - it would have been a great result if we drew let alone won

9th at the time

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

Neil, your obsession against Malky, due to your support and love for Tan, is totally over shadowing your judgement.
I have only put 3% of the replies on fb on here and its funny all these Cardiff City fans on Facebook with their real names/photos all supported and love Malky.

Your entitled to your opinion like them and me, but his record at Cardiff City was fantastic until Tan turned on him and Malky will go down in history as a hero, even though Tan was obsessed to ruin his reputation.

For me Malky is in My top 5 managers at Cardiff City and this is my 50th consecutive season

Annis, you know full well I’ve not got a love for Tan just a respect. We have discussed this many times. For you to say so is disingenuous.

I just see Malky for what he was. Not a great manager who had a loooootttttttttt of support. He’s not a Warnock or even a Dave Jones. He’s probably the third best manager we have had in the 2000s in my opinion.

He got promoted from the championship with a points total that wouldn’t have been promoted most other seasons scoring the least goals a title winning side have ever scored.

I don’t hate Malky. I am sad that with the resources he had he didn’t make us better for longer. I just can’t abide bollocks and when people talk bollocks I have to pull them for it. I can’t help it.

The guy who said we would still be in the premier if Tan had kept Malky in charge is wrong. However, had DJ been given the same money as Malky then we might have been.

You cant say someone's opinion is wrong and yours is right based on something that never happened. We'll never know how that season would have gone. We could have been well relegated, we could have survived by a point or we could have pulled away. Every season in the prem teams are in and out of the relegation zone up until the last games of the season .

It is pretty well document that Dave Jones let players do whatever they wanted. Its probably the main reason he never got us promoted. I loved the football under Jones but there is nothing to suggest he would have kept us in the prem as he bottled the big occasions.

The fans choose Malky over Tan and Tan then did his best to ruin his career.

I know I can’t. I’m not the one who is dealing in certainties saying Malik would have kept us up.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

Neil, your obsession against Malky, due to your support and love for Tan, is totally over shadowing your judgement.
I have only put 3% of the replies on fb on here and its funny all these Cardiff City fans on Facebook with their real names/photos all supported and love Malky.

Your entitled to your opinion like them and me, but his record at Cardiff City was fantastic until Tan turned on him and Malky will go down in history as a hero, even though Tan was obsessed to ruin his reputation.

For me Malky is in My top 5 managers at Cardiff City and this is my 50th consecutive season

Annis, you know full well I’ve not got a love for Tan just a respect. We have discussed this many times. For you to say so is disingenuous.

I just see Malky for what he was. Not a great manager who had a loooootttttttttt of support. He’s not a Warnock or even a Dave Jones. He’s probably the third best manager we have had in the 2000s in my opinion.

He got promoted from the championship with a points total that wouldn’t have been promoted most other seasons scoring the least goals a title winning side have ever scored.

I don’t hate Malky. I am sad that with the resources he had he didn’t make us better for longer. I just can’t abide bollocks and when people talk bollocks I have to pull them for it. I can’t help it.

The guy who said we would still be in the premier if Tan had kept Malky in charge is wrong. However, had DJ been given the same money as Malky then we might have been.

You cant say someone's opinion is wrong and yours is right based on something that never happened. We'll never know how that season would have gone. We could have been well relegated, we could have survived by a point or we could have pulled away. Every season in the prem teams are in and out of the relegation zone up until the last games of the season .

It is pretty well document that Dave Jones let players do whatever they wanted. Its probably the main reason he never got us promoted. I loved the football under Jones but there is nothing to suggest he would have kept us in the prem as he bottled the big occasions.

The fans choose Malky over Tan and Tan then did his best to ruin his career.

I know I can’t. I’m not the one who is dealing in certainties saying Malik would have kept us up.

He said 'probably' still be a prem side if we didn't sack him. An opinion many people share.

Remember the good times and the positive vibes under Malky, we would all love to have them times back! He was destroyed by our power happy owners! Hope he does well in his new job doesn't deserve the flack from our illustrious owner!

Most of the positive times under Malky were when we were red.

So, you enjoyed being in red?

Want those time back? Back in red?

The best season under Malky was actually 2011-2012 with the league cup final and playoffs on a much lower budget and the good feelings from unexpectedly overachieving given the player departures in summer 2011. The football was much better too, only after the 5-4 defeat to Charlton in 2012-13 did we start tightening up.

what do you mean unexpected....DJ got sacked for not going up.. and MM appointed and given a bigger budget..it was a period where expectations were higher than they had ever been..

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

Neil, your obsession against Malky, due to your support and love for Tan, is totally over shadowing your judgement.
I have only put 3% of the replies on fb on here and its funny all these Cardiff City fans on Facebook with their real names/photos all supported and love Malky.

Your entitled to your opinion like them and me, but his record at Cardiff City was fantastic until Tan turned on him and Malky will go down in history as a hero, even though Tan was obsessed to ruin his reputation.

For me Malky is in My top 5 managers at Cardiff City and this is my 50th consecutive season

Annis, you know full well I’ve not got a love for Tan just a respect. We have discussed this many times. For you to say so is disingenuous.

I just see Malky for what he was. Not a great manager who had a loooootttttttttt of support. He’s not a Warnock or even a Dave Jones. He’s probably the third best manager we have had in the 2000s in my opinion.

He got promoted from the championship with a points total that wouldn’t have been promoted most other seasons scoring the least goals a title winning side have ever scored.

I don’t hate Malky. I am sad that with the resources he had he didn’t make us better for longer. I just can’t abide bollocks and when people talk bollocks I have to pull them for it. I can’t help it.

The guy who said we would still be in the premier if Tan had kept Malky in charge is wrong. However, had DJ been given the same money as Malky then we might have been.

You cant say someone's opinion is wrong and yours is right based on something that never happened. We'll never know how that season would have gone. We could have been well relegated, we could have survived by a point or we could have pulled away. Every season in the prem teams are in and out of the relegation zone up until the last games of the season .

It is pretty well document that Dave Jones let players do whatever they wanted. Its probably the main reason he never got us promoted. I loved the football under Jones but there is nothing to suggest he would have kept us in the prem as he bottled the big occasions.

The fans choose Malky over Tan and Tan then did his best to ruin his career.

I know I can’t. I’m not the one who is dealing in certainties saying Malik would have kept us up.

He said 'probably' still be a prem side if we didn't sack him. An opinion many people share.

I’m not gonna insult your intelligence by saying check the posts and see how many people say with certainty Malky would have kept us up.

But check the posts.

MY WHOLE POINT IS BASED ON THE FACT NO ONE CAN SAY FOR CERTAIN IF HE WOULD HAVE OR NOT.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

We only needed six more points than we ended up getting to stay up and we had some very good home fixtures that we ended up losing that I think we would have won under Malky. Palace, Hull, West Ham, Villa, Sunderland, Stoke. We only got 3 points out of 18 available from those games. We only needed 9-10 points out of them to stay up. Given our record against those type of teams under Malky I think we would have got it and then pushed on to consolidate in PL. Look at Malky's old assistant Dyche and the success he has had at Burnley. It may not be pretty but its effective and Malky would have attempted a similar thing here but with more money than Dyche has had.

MM and SD are 2 completely different people so i dont see how in your wildest dreams you can project ones achievements onto the other... ...its a real shame we didnt appoint Dyche though as i doubt very much a £ 20 million plus deal on one for the future would have been Seans priority for a newly promoted team.... the argument shouldnt be would he have kept us up { although in his 4 full seasons managing here and at Watford a drop off in results after Xmas every season is a good counter to not having been in the bottom 3 } but it should be about did he waste millions... was it a good summer window... and was the fella that has invested 100 million plus totally wrong in thinking he had been ripped off ? and if you were in that position and thought that { even if you didnt have enough evidence to prosecute } ,would you just brush it under the carpet and forget all about it... or be livid....id be the later and have been { not over millions either } ...so
is it { A } Tan was correct , and he actually was ripped off........or
{b} .. MM was naive enough to think that the one for the future record signing deal amongst other very lets say interesting transfers were what was needed....and although it looked fraudulent it was really just old fashioned incompetence...


we will never know...
as for THE fans... most can see that either way they were poor for our club....legend
half the people on this thread will complain about things like wasting a total of 50k on a player ..well you can sign 400 of those and still not equal an ACorn....

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

We only needed six more points than we ended up getting to stay up and we had some very good home fixtures that we ended up losing that I think we would have won under Malky. Palace, Hull, West Ham, Villa, Sunderland, Stoke. We only got 3 points out of 18 available from those games. We only needed 9-10 points out of them to stay up. Given our record against those type of teams under Malky I think we would have got it and then pushed on to consolidate in PL. Look at Malky's old assistant Dyche and the success he has had at Burnley. It may not be pretty but its effective and Malky would have attempted a similar thing here but with more money than Dyche has had.

MM and SD are 2 completely different people so i dont see how in your wildest dreams you can project ones achievements onto the other... ...its a real shame we didnt appoint Dyche though as i doubt very much a £ 20 million plus deal on one for the future would have been Seans priority for a newly promoted team.... the argument shouldnt be would he have kept us up { although in his 4 full seasons managing here and at Watford a drop off in results after Xmas every season is a good counter to not having been in the bottom 3 } but it should be about did he waste millions... was it a good summer window... and was the fella that has invested 100 million plus totally wrong in thinking he had been ripped off ? and if you were in that position and thought that { even if you didnt have enough evidence to prosecute } ,would you just brush it under the carpet and forget all about it... or be livid....id be the later and have been { not over millions either } ...so
is it { A } Tan was correct , and he actually was ripped off........or
{b} .. MM was naive enough to think that the one for the future record signing deal amongst other very lets say interesting transfers were what was needed....and although it looked fraudulent it was really just old fashioned incompetence...


we will never know...
as for THE fans... most can see that either way they were poor for our club....legend
half the people on this thread will complain about things like wasting a total of 50k on a player ..well you can sign 400 of those and still not equal an ACorn....

Signed Brayford then never played him.

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

We only needed six more points than we ended up getting to stay up and we had some very good home fixtures that we ended up losing that I think we would have won under Malky. Palace, Hull, West Ham, Villa, Sunderland, Stoke. We only got 3 points out of 18 available from those games. We only needed 9-10 points out of them to stay up. Given our record against those type of teams under Malky I think we would have got it and then pushed on to consolidate in PL. Look at Malky's old assistant Dyche and the success he has had at Burnley. It may not be pretty but its effective and Malky would have attempted a similar thing here but with more money than Dyche has had.

MM and SD are 2 completely different people so i dont see how in your wildest dreams you can project ones achievements onto the other... ...its a real shame we didnt appoint Dyche though as i doubt very much a £ 20 million plus deal on one for the future would have been Seans priority for a newly promoted team.... the argument shouldnt be would he have kept us up { although in his 4 full seasons managing here and at Watford a drop off in results after Xmas every season is a good counter to not having been in the bottom 3 } but it should be about did he waste millions... was it a good summer window... and was the fella that has invested 100 million plus totally wrong in thinking he had been ripped off ? and if you were in that position and thought that { even if you didnt have enough evidence to prosecute } ,would you just brush it under the carpet and forget all about it... or be livid....id be the later and have been { not over millions either } ...so
is it { A } Tan was correct , and he actually was ripped off........or
{b} .. MM was naive enough to think that the one for the future record signing deal amongst other very lets say interesting transfers were what was needed....and although it looked fraudulent it was really just old fashioned incompetence...


we will never know...
as for THE fans... most can see that either way they were poor for our club....legend
half the people on this thread will complain about things like wasting a total of 50k on a player ..well you can sign 400 of those and still not equal an ACorn....

Signed Brayford then never played him.

there were a few mate.... not just the obvious ones... some deals had more agents involved than an MI5 xmas do.....

Good luck Malky, always a City legend in my eyes. We'd probably still be PL now (like Palace who went up with us in 12-13) if we had not sacked him.

How do you even think that is true?

We were heading one direction. When sacked we were one point above the relegation zone having lost three nil to Southampton in an insipid performance.

Some will blame Tan and say the players were affected by the goings on between Malky and Tan. For a start there was one side where that was coming from and it wasn’t Tan. Malky aired all his dirty laundry in public to get the sympathy vote. Also, if the players were behind Malky as much as is said shouldn’t they have performed a lot better than that match v Southampton? The performance after his sacking (2 all draw with Sunderland) was a lot better performance.

Results before he was sacked
Southampton lost three nil
Liverpool lost three one
Beat WBA one nil in a poor game. Thankfully they were also poor and sacked their manager after this game.
Crystal Palace lost two nil (team that came up with us)
Stoke City drew nil nil
Arsenal lost three nil
Man Utd drew two all
Aston Villa lost two nil

People make out we were flying under Malky, we only won four games and our plan A of set pieces had been well and truly found out proven by lack of goals. Before the WBA game we had gone 335 minutes without a goal.

The two teams who came up with us, having spent a massive amount less 2012 and 2013 both managed to stay up. Why? Because they had better managers. And they didn’t buy an 11 million pound cart horse and give him 45k a week.

I know people like to have rose tinted glasses and distort history but f**k me there’s some bollocks on this post being spouted (some of it via social media I will say).

Neil, your obsession against Malky, due to your support and love for Tan, is totally over shadowing your judgement.
I have only put 3% of the replies on fb on here and its funny all these Cardiff City fans on Facebook with their real names/photos all supported and love Malky.

Your entitled to your opinion like them and me, but his record at Cardiff City was fantastic until Tan turned on him and Malky will go down in history as a hero, even though Tan was obsessed to ruin his reputation.

For me Malky is in My top 5 managers at Cardiff City and this is my 50th consecutive season

Annis, you know full well I’ve not got a love for Tan just a respect. We have discussed this many times. For you to say so is disingenuous.

I just see Malky for what he was. Not a great manager who had a loooootttttttttt of support. He’s not a Warnock or even a Dave Jones. He’s probably the third best manager we have had in the 2000s in my opinion.

He got promoted from the championship with a points total that wouldn’t have been promoted most other seasons scoring the least goals a title winning side have ever scored.

I don’t hate Malky. I am sad that with the resources he had he didn’t make us better for longer. I just can’t abide bollocks and when people talk bollocks I have to pull them for it. I can’t help it.

The guy who said we would still be in the premier if Tan had kept Malky in charge is wrong. However, had DJ been given the same money as Malky then we might have been.

You cant say someone's opinion is wrong and yours is right based on something that never happened. We'll never know how that season would have gone. We could have been well relegated, we could have survived by a point or we could have pulled away. Every season in the prem teams are in and out of the relegation zone up until the last games of the season .

It is pretty well document that Dave Jones let players do whatever they wanted. Its probably the main reason he never got us promoted. I loved the football under Jones but there is nothing to suggest he would have kept us in the prem as he bottled the big occasions.

The fans choose Malky over Tan and Tan then did his best to ruin his career.

I know I can’t. I’m not the one who is dealing in certainties saying Malik would have kept us up.

He said 'probably' still be a prem side if we didn't sack him. An opinion many people share.

I’m not gonna insult your intelligence by saying check the posts and see how many people say with certainty Malky would have kept us up.

But check the posts.

MY WHOLE POINT IS BASED ON THE FACT NO ONE CAN SAY FOR CERTAIN IF HE WOULD HAVE OR NOT.

How many exactly then? I think you're the one who needs to check the thread.

You are right though, no one can say for sure. So not sure why you're getting so worked up over it. You're hard on for Tan is cringey. I'm not sure who is more angry that the fans chose malky over Tan, you or Tan