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Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:20 pm

Simple fact is we can't sue anyone unless we accept and pay the required amount to agree sala was our player, maybe tan is now excepting he has to lose this particular battle to have any hope of winning the war.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:21 pm

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Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:22 pm

Cardiff City Supporters' Trust issue statement over behind-the- scenes meeting with club over transfer embargo
By Paul Abbandonato

Cardiff City Supporters' Trust have issued details of a behind the scenes meeting they were involved in as the club hierarchy gave an update on the ongoing Emiliano Sala situation.

The Trust's respected chairman Keith Morgan, a Bluebirds fanatic for many years and himself a finance expert, was part of a delegation of fans who spoke to Cardiff's powers-that-be ahead of the disappointing 1-1 draw with Blackpool at the weekend.

Cardiff chairman Mehmet Dalman explained to the group that the club were under a transfer embargo as a result of not paying the first instalment of the Sala transfer fee Nantes are requesting.

This information was then relayed by the club to the Welsh media. The Bluebirds are continuing to pursue legal action and first want those avenues fully exhausted before parting with any money.

The matter is a highly complicated one, which goes way beyond just football rules. Mr Morgan confirmed in a statement to Trust members: "Fans present were generally supportive of the club's stance in continuing with various legal matters which are complex and involving many matters."

"Mehmet Dalman expressed his opinion that the matter will be resolved in the near future but could not promise that this would occur before the end of the January 2023 transfer window."

The next step for Cardiff is a legal appeal against a football decision made by the Court of Arbitration for Sport in Switzerland which decreed Sala was their player, not Nantes'. Cardiff wish to reserve the right to claim for damages and have asked the Swiss Federal Tribunal, the highest court in the land, to look at the CAS decision.

Mr Morgan writes to fellow Trust members: "Despite social media claims to the contrary, the Swiss Federal Tribunal (SFT) have not rejected a club claim to them to have the CAS decision reversed or otherwise amended. Preparations for a hearing , which is likely to take place in January or February 2023, are ongoing but the details have to be kept entirely confidential under SFT rules so no further information could be given to the meeting.

"The SFT will only consider an appeal of a CAS decision if it can be shown that there was a fundamental legal mistake, error or omission in reaching their decision. They cannot overturn the football decision that the Sala transfer was complete and that the transfer fee is payable, but may rule that any payment is deferred until a successful counter claim for financial loss arising from the sad demise of Emiliano Sala is settled.
"

Cardiff are also taking High Court action against Miller Insurances LLP, saying the broker failed to properly communicate the process for immediately insuring new players.

Of this, Mr Morgan says: "Again, legal confidentiality prevented a great deal of detail on this, but it would appear that the club's regular policy of signing players then insuring them shortly thereafter has not been queried beforehand by those brokers or insurers. For previous transfers this ended up being irrelevant but in the Sala case his sad death occurred between what FIFA and CAS have ruled was the date of completion of his transfer and the relevant insurance being finalised.

"A claim could not be made against the insurers beforehand as the club remained adamant that the player`s transfer had not been completed and that there was therefore no “asset” to insure. The CAS ruling has changed that
."

Mr Morgan also moved to deal with claims Cardiff previously stated they had set aside the money for the Sala transfer.

He wrote: "Other social media claims include one that the club has set aside the cash to pay the full Sala transfer fee and related costs. This was specifically denied by the Chair and clarified (as has been done before on social media by others) by Phillip Jenkins."

Jenkins is the club's finance chief and who was also in attendance at the meeting with supporters.

Morgan, himself an expert on football finance, continued: "Since the May 2019 accounts a provision has been made in the club`s audited accounts for a payment in full of the transfer fee. This has nothing to do with a cash reserve to pay it (which does not exist).

"If eventually it has to be paid, it is prudent to provide for it and ensure a continuing compliance with EFL Profitability and Sustainability Rules (the club remains compliant even after that provision).

"If it has to be paid then it will not have an adverse impact on the club`s compliance. If it doesn`t have to be paid then the club`s balance sheet position will improve by over £20m
."

Cardiff are taking a bit of a kicking on social media over the transfer embargo, but there are also lots of supporters who believe they are doing the right thing in fighting this highly complex matter and who are firmly backing them over their stance.

The club feel that even without extra January signings, the squad is more than good enough to secure a comfortable mid-table finish.


Boss Mark Hudson can pick a first XI as follows: Ryan Allsop; Mahlon Romeo, Perry Ng, Cedric Kipre, Calllum O'Dowda; Ryan Wintle, Joe Ralls; Callum Robinson, Rubin Colwill, Jadon Philogene, Kion Etete.

That would still leave back up from the likes of Sheji Ojo, Mark Harris, Romaine Sawyers, Isaak Davies, Andy Rhiomhota, Niels Nkounkou, Gavin Whyte, Curtis Nelson, Jack Simpson and Joel Bagan, among others.

Re: EFL LIFTED EMBARGO

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:22 pm

GrangeEndStar wrote:€6m paid this morning according to Keith. Wez was right yet again and is now officially our new leader :thumbright:

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Got to be fair, Wez stole a march on all of us there and my hat is tipped to him... :ayatollah:

This is great news and hopefully a weight off our beloved club's shoulders...

For me, we now need to take a step back as a group and wait to find out what exactly is going on before charging in with assumptions, presumptions and plain guesswork

Having finally put an end to the initial saga, there may be more to follow, so let's wait and see what Vincent does next... :bluescarf:

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:23 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:27 pm

Tan had no way out but to pay something , caught in a trap his own trap he tried to get out of it then costing City more

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:34 pm

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Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:38 pm

wez1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .




Wez,

What ever your unbelievable for Tan beyond a joke.

Dalman told the fans exactly this at one of the meetings.

Plus said the money was put aside.

Then changed last bit this time around.

15mill to start
Plus

Years of court cases , lawyers , fines, interest, 3 different courts .

I personally think it’s way more than £20million, I think Dalmans doing a Boris.

Anyway you always said they would win and we would not pay it, as usual wrong on both accounts.

Dragged our club through the mud and a total disgrace

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:42 pm

barnet blue wrote:Tan had no way out but to pay something , caught in a trap his own trap he tried to get out of costing City

You know f**k all, (not from) barnet blue, so don't pretend otherwise... :roll:

For once, just be happy (or as 'happy' as you can ever be) that something positive has happened at last regarding this whole sorry saga that few know the depth of detail from which to have such an opinion

This is great news for Cardiff City FC supporters and a pleasant surprise for once! :ayatollah:

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:43 pm

I wonder if this is the number that we and Nantes have decided to settle on in full and final payment just to put this whole sorry saga to bed. This would be less any agents fees and subsequent clauses based on goals, appearances and ultimately the City retaining Premier league status. I'm sure it will become clearer in next few days.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:47 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .




Wez,

What ever your unbelievable for Tan beyond a joke.

Dalman told the fans exactly this at one of the meetings.

Plus said the money was put aside.

Then changed last bit this time around.

15mill to start
Plus

Years of court cases , lawyers , fines, interest, 3 different courts .

I personally think it’s way more than £20million, I think Dalmans doing a Boris.

Anyway you always said they would win and we would not pay it, as usual wrong on both accounts.

Dragged our club through the mud and a total disgrace


You got to give wez some credit mate, his source was bang on. Well ahead of everyone else anyway. I for one are happy. Better late than never. Hopefully we can kick on now.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:52 pm

ccfcblue1980 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .




Wez,

What ever your unbelievable for Tan beyond a joke.

Dalman told the fans exactly this at one of the meetings.

Plus said the money was put aside.

Then changed last bit this time around.

15mill to start
Plus

Years of court cases , lawyers , fines, interest, 3 different courts .

I personally think it’s way more than £20million, I think Dalmans doing a Boris.

Anyway you always said they would win and we would not pay it, as usual wrong on both accounts.

Dragged our club through the mud and a total disgrace


You got to give wez some credit mate, his source was bang on. Well ahead of everyone else anyway. I for one are happy. Better late than never. Hopefully we can kick on now.



Wez got it off Twitter like I did.

But to be fair I never believed it, Wez did.


I really hope we can move on and the Hierarchy pay everything they owe, then do what they want and sue who they believe.

Personally I think they will never win a case.

Also the agent is bankrupt.

Insurers I don’t know?

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:53 pm

I wonder if this is the number that we and Nantes have decided to settle on in full and final payment just to put this whole sorry saga to bed. This would be less any agents fees and subsequent clauses based on goals, appearances and ultimately the City retaining Premier league status. I'm sure it will become clearer in next few days.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:54 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .




Wez,

What ever your unbelievable for Tan beyond a joke.

Dalman told the fans exactly this at one of the meetings.

Plus said the money was put aside.

Then changed last bit this time around.

15mill to start
Plus

Years of court cases , lawyers , fines, interest, 3 different courts .

I personally think it’s way more than £20million, I think Dalmans doing a Boris.

Anyway you always said they would win and we would not pay it, as usual wrong on both accounts.

Dragged our club through the mud and a total disgrace




Just give Wez a break, he said what he knew and it happened.

This forum has gone to the dogs.

A sprinkle of positivity from the club, let’s embrace it

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 8:54 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .




Wez,

What ever your unbelievable for Tan beyond a joke.

Dalman told the fans exactly this at one of the meetings.

Plus said the money was put aside.

Then changed last bit this time around.

15mill to start
Plus

Years of court cases , lawyers , fines, interest, 3 different courts .

I personally think it’s way more than £20million, I think Dalmans doing a Boris.

Anyway you always said they would win and we would not pay it, as usual wrong on both accounts.

Dragged our club through the mud and a total disgrace

This a long way from being over , it's funny tho that you quote dalman as I thought you didn't belive a word he says ? .

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:13 pm

Ninian27 wrote:If Tan has paid €6million then he is actually finally admitting Emiliano was ours or is because he has been backed in Toms corner and finally admits defeat


Nope, he had to pay to remove the embargo but the claims against others will carry on.

I will still be very surprised if we end up not recouping at least some of the transfer fee Nantes are looking for.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:18 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
ccfcblue1980 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

https://cardiffcityforum.co.uk/viewtopi ... 2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .




Wez,

What ever your unbelievable for Tan beyond a joke.

Dalman told the fans exactly this at one of the meetings.

Plus said the money was put aside.

Then changed last bit this time around.

15mill to start
Plus

Years of court cases , lawyers , fines, interest, 3 different courts .

I personally think it’s way more than £20million, I think Dalmans doing a Boris.

Anyway you always said they would win and we would not pay it, as usual wrong on both accounts.

Dragged our club through the mud and a total disgrace


You got to give wez some credit mate, his source was bang on. Well ahead of everyone else anyway. I for one are happy. Better late than never. Hopefully we can kick on now.



Wez got it off Twitter like I did.

But to be fair I never believed it, Wez did.


I really hope we can move on and the Hierarchy pay everything they owe, then do what they want and sue who they believe.

Personally I think they will never win a case.

Also the agent is bankrupt.

Insurers I don’t know?

Sure wez said his source wasn't off twitter. Don't care where he got it, glad he was right.
It's all bye the bye all I care about is the fact something positive has happened and there's some light at the end of this dark tunnel.
Bloooobirds :ayatollah:

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:19 pm

Well done Wez, careful with the good news story mind.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:22 pm

JakeBluebird wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .




Wez,

What ever your unbelievable for Tan beyond a joke.

Dalman told the fans exactly this at one of the meetings.

Plus said the money was put aside.

Then changed last bit this time around.

15mill to start
Plus

Years of court cases , lawyers , fines, interest, 3 different courts .

I personally think it’s way more than £20million, I think Dalmans doing a Boris.

Anyway you always said they would win and we would not pay it, as usual wrong on both accounts.

Dragged our club through the mud and a total disgrace




Just give Wez a break, he said what he knew and it happened.



A sprinkle of positivity from the club, let’s embrace it


Agree.

There are too many on here who don’t even try to enjoy any positive news.

Wez gave this news days ahead, he should be applauded for passing on good, accurate information.

The Sala cases will still go ahead because there is still a huge question as to where the ultimate liability lies.

But hey, let’s not let any good news spoil the days of those who can’t wait for things to go wrong just so they can say “I told you so” !

So far this week we’ve had an excellent performance and draw against a Prem team, return of Davies, the first instalment of the Sala fee paid and, possibly, the removal of the embargo.

Things ain’t perfect so let’s enjoy some good news for a change and try to turn this forum back toward the fairer forum it used to be.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:29 pm

Sven wrote:
GrangeEndStar wrote:€6m paid this morning according to Keith. Wez was right yet again and is now officially our new leader :thumbright:

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Got to be fair, Wez stole a march on all of us there and my hat is tipped to him... :ayatollah:

This is great news and hopefully a weight off our beloved club's shoulders...

For me, we now need to take a step back as a group and wait to find out what exactly is going on before charging in with assumptions, presumptions and plain guesswork

Having finally put an end to the initial saga, there may be more to follow, so let's wait and see what Vincent does next... :bluescarf:


Completely agree mate. I can't blame the club exhausting all legal channels in the correct sequence and the first payment hopefully lifts the embargo and we can get the players in we need. This is a complex, murky case and none of us really have any idea of what's going on behind the scenes and wranglings. This of course will go on and for quite sometime but at least we can now focus on the football again for now.

It's over to VT again now as he said he'd support Huds in getting players in and today's payment suggests that he will. I'm of the opinion that VT/MD had lost interest two years ago and should move on if that's the case or have a last roll of the dice and make some changes in his senior management team. Over to you VT.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:32 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
ccfcblue1980 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .




Wez,

What ever your unbelievable for Tan beyond a joke.

Dalman told the fans exactly this at one of the meetings.

Plus said the money was put aside.

Then changed last bit this time around.

15mill to start
Plus

Years of court cases , lawyers , fines, interest, 3 different courts .

I personally think it’s way more than £20million, I think Dalmans doing a Boris.

Anyway you always said they would win and we would not pay it, as usual wrong on both accounts.

Dragged our club through the mud and a total disgrace


You got to give wez some credit mate, his source was bang on. Well ahead of everyone else anyway. I for one are happy. Better late than never. Hopefully we can kick on now.



Wez got it off Twitter like I did.

But to be fair I never believed it, Wez did.


I really hope we can move on and the Hierarchy pay everything they owe, then do what they want and sue who they believe.

Personally I think they will never win a case.

Also the agent is bankrupt.

Insurers I don’t know?


Even if insurers no longer exist as long as they are registered and regulated their liabilities are covered.

For instance, many mesothelioma (asbestos) cases involve companies and insurers from 50+ years ago. But once a court makes a decision an insurers liabilities are covered (I think by the Financial regulators, but don’t quote me in that).

In this case it’s easier in that those involved, e.g. the agents, clubs, insurers, are all still operating so once liability is finalised it should be pretty easy.

The biggest problem could be if the agent was liable and was bankrupt and they didn’t have insurance. In that case though I’m pretty sure there would still be a claim against whoever (Nantes ?) instructed an uninsured, unregulated agent.

This is why the club has to keep going with these claims.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:36 pm

Positive news :bluebird:

Negative news the board have made the Sala case costly, embarrassing and many of us fans have lost total faith in them.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:39 pm

Hopefully it’s not to late to sign Lennon Peake West Ham.
I know Lennon was in talks with 2 other clubs last week, he had set his heart on us.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:52 pm

ccfcblue1980 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
ccfcblue1980 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
wez1927 wrote:
bluebird7291 wrote:Yesterday we was listed on their website along with reading for being in the embargo.
Today we are not...... Hmmmm



viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226


Updated:

Keith Morgan:

He has been told the first installment of around €6m was paid this morning with a view to try and get the transfer embargoed lifted. The club is currently in discussion with the EFL and FIFA.


Dalman himself said at the meeting last October thst the total cost now is around £20million and you know he said it.

I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.





Updated the background:



After 4 years of denying Emiliano Sala was a Cardiff City player and three different courts saying Sala was, today City owner Vincent Tan paid part of the money owing €6mill.

City Chairman Dalman says the total cost now is around £20million.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=204226

Where does cardiff city chairman says total cost 20 million ? .





I personally believe it’s more , with interest, lawyers ,3 different court cases and fines.
This has been hung in years them denying Sala was not ours, it’s been shocking and disgraceful.
He has been told the club believes the discussions are progressing favourably and it is hoped there will be an update in the next few discussions.

I think its a lot less as the quoted fee is normally with all the add ons appearances , agent fees etc but I k ow we've withheld the agent few and sadly he never played for us



Read £20million

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/foo ... e-25796787

It says there is a provision for up to 20 million doesn't say it will cost us that .




Wez,

What ever your unbelievable for Tan beyond a joke.

Dalman told the fans exactly this at one of the meetings.

Plus said the money was put aside.

Then changed last bit this time around.

15mill to start
Plus

Years of court cases , lawyers , fines, interest, 3 different courts .

I personally think it’s way more than £20million, I think Dalmans doing a Boris.

Anyway you always said they would win and we would not pay it, as usual wrong on both accounts.

Dragged our club through the mud and a total disgrace


You got to give wez some credit mate, his source was bang on. Well ahead of everyone else anyway. I for one are happy. Better late than never. Hopefully we can kick on now.



Wez got it off Twitter like I did.

But to be fair I never believed it, Wez did.


I really hope we can move on and the Hierarchy pay everything they owe, then do what they want and sue who they believe.

Personally I think they will never win a case.

Also the agent is bankrupt.

Insurers I don’t know?

Sure wez said his source wasn't off twitter. Don't care where he got it, glad he was right.
It's all bye the bye all I care about is the fact something positive has happened and there's some light at the end of this dark tunnel.
Bloooobirds :ayatollah:
you are right I never got it off twitter ,
I don't know why annis is saying I got it off twitter as he knows I didn't and I can screen shot my watts app messages with annis to prove it , annis sent me the twitter once from the disable chairman, so not sure why he's said it .my source was bang on just like previous information he has given me over the years.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 9:55 pm

Poor Vinny. My heart bleeds for him having to take such a massive hit, maybe we should set up a go fund me page.

Never mind the poor human and his family that constantly have to see their son's name banded about like a worthless piece of meat for the world to see.

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:08 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Hopefully it’s not to late to sign Lennon Peake West Ham.
I know Lennon was in talks with 2 other clubs last week, he had set his heart on us.


Fingers are very firmly crossed!!

Lets hope Hudson can get some strengthening done, stay up and build for next season

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:12 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Hopefully it’s not to late to sign Lennon Peake West Ham.
I know Lennon was in talks with 2 other clubs last week, he had set his heart on us.
is he any good tho ? .

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:30 pm

wez1927 wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:Hopefully it’s not to late to sign Lennon Peake West Ham.
I know Lennon was in talks with 2 other clubs last week, he had set his heart on us.
is he any good tho ? .


Was rated as a promising player by West Ham before his injuries. Has been out for the most part of two years since.

Generally speaking, if we sign a player whose been out for two years injured, people would criticize the board/transfer committee and throw their dummies out. If we do sign him, I hope he can get his career back on track!

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote:Hopefully it’s not to late to sign Lennon Peake West Ham.
I know Lennon was in talks with 2 other clubs last week, he had set his heart on us.

I'm with you on that, Annis; would be superb! :ayatollah:

Re: ‘EFL LIFTED EMBARGO AS €6 MILL PAID ‘

Tue Jan 10, 2023 10:46 pm

I feel another court case/cases coming on.Some fcuker is going to get sued.