Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:31 pm
maybe they already have ? .Whistler wrote:I am a little confused!
It was my understanding that EFL were mirroring the FIFA embargo, and it is confirmed by the EFL that they have now lifted it, however surely FIFA should be leading the way on lifting the embargo first following the the payment from City.
So are we now free to operate within this transfer window or not?
Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:43 pm
Forever Blue wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:piledriver64 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:wez1927 wrote:Barclay1 wrote:This is indeed good news, but 1.7M on fees interest and fines??
It is shocking as that could have funded much needed team rebuilding.
Anyway, big question here is, once (if) embargo is lifted, will we actually now go put and sign the quality we need to stay in this division? If so, then its a huge boost.
If we remain a cost cutting team and rely on kids , what we have, and inadequate signings then not much has changed.
Over to you Mr Tan.....
You will be moaning about the amount of debt next ,what a whopper you are .you want tan to leave but you want him to pay everything I'm surprised you havnt blamed tan for the plane crash yet .
Wez,
Of course he is going to be moaning about the Debt, the debt is Tans responsibility.
95% of fans our fans want Tan out including Tan himself
Wez you are in the minority.
People wanting to keep Tan are certainly in the 5% minority on this board, of that there is no doubt. However, as for City fans in general your claim of 95% is wildly inaccurate and has no substance.
I think it’s more about 50/50. But I would accept that many, including me, would want Tan to sell up if there is a viable bidder that will satisfy Tan’s demands.
On FB , Twitter and in general.
Fb is far worse than this forum.
100% def not 50/50.
I actually only know Wez in person that wants to keep Tan.
I don’t know anyone else and I know thousands on Fb.
Tan made the debts and you and Wez use to say to it does not matter it’s his personal debt?
But it’s not is it.
And as I said to Wez I stand by this, it’s now about £30mill to Dalman and £20 mill to another person all at high interest.
The whole mess on and of the pitch is all down to one man at the Top you and Wez’s mate Tan.
There is NO doubt at all.
Look the first payment has already cost us nearly £2mill more, it’s beyond a joke.
I noticed you 2 and say 3 more try always to twist or divert from the main topics.
Tan tried to make out Sala was not our player and yet he always was.
You’re twisting what I have said about the Sala ownership issue.
What I have said is that the club is right to take this to the highest courts/tribunals. This has been required to establish ownership beyond doubt and to enable the upcoming legal actions to proceed on a much stronger footing.
I stand by that and, personally, I believe the only way we will end up paying the full fee if, as part if selling the club, Tan decides to just cut his losses for time issues.
As for you claiming Facebook backs up your claim on percentages: well of course it does !!!! You decide who can comment on your Facebook site just like I would do, therefore the likelihood is that the vast majority of people will be your friends or like minded people. I have no issue with that but you can’t really use that as a good barometer !!
But they knew from day one that Sala was our player and registered with us.
Wrong again,
I have 20,000 plus followers , plus 4 groups total 50,000, they all say what they want.
You actually really don’t know what you are talking about, a bit like our Hierarchy clueless beyond belief.
Wed Jan 11, 2023 1:44 pm
Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:06 pm
JulesK wrote:Why do you keep twisting words Annis?
All this pay up crap is OK with other people's money so let's let the dust settle and see what's what, as for PFA, well if they say he isn't our player then where do they get their info.
Premier League = papers wrong.
FIFA = papers right.
CAS = papers right.
FAW = papers wrong
PFA = papers wrong.
Also Annis you pulled me up for swearing yesterday but in this thread you have someone calling Mr Tan a w..k.r so how is that fair or is it Mr Tan can be abused but others cannot please.
Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:06 pm
JulesK wrote:Why do you keep twisting words Annis?
All this pay up crap is OK with other people's money so let's let the dust settle and see what's what, as for PFA, well if they say he isn't our player then where do they get their info.
Premier League = papers wrong.
FIFA = papers right.
CAS = papers right.
FAW = papers wrong
PFA = papers wrong.
Also Annis you pulled me up for swearing yesterday but in this thread you have someone calling Mr Tan a w..k.r so how is that fair or is it Mr Tan can be abused but others cannot please.
Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:44 pm
Wed Jan 11, 2023 2:58 pm
Forever Blue wrote:JulesK wrote:Why do you keep twisting words Annis?
All this pay up crap is OK with other people's money so let's let the dust settle and see what's what, as for PFA, well if they say he isn't our player then where do they get their info.
Premier League = papers wrong.
FIFA = papers right.
CAS = papers right.
FAW = papers wrong
PFA = papers wrong.
Also Annis you pulled me up for swearing yesterday but in this thread you have someone calling Mr Tan a w..k.r so how is that fair or is it Mr Tan can be abused but others cannot please.
I try to stop swearing from some of our posters.
Jules,
You can twist everything you like.
Have we not been ordered to pay for Emiliano Sala, plus costs and interest?
Was Emiliano Sala a Cardiff City player?
Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:00 pm
Radyrman wrote:JulesK wrote:Why do you keep twisting words Annis?
All this pay up crap is OK with other people's money so let's let the dust settle and see what's what, as for PFA, well if they say he isn't our player then where do they get their info.
Premier League = papers wrong.
FIFA = papers right.
CAS = papers right.
FAW = papers wrong
PFA = papers wrong.
Also Annis you pulled me up for swearing yesterday but in this thread you have someone calling Mr Tan a w..k.r so how is that fair or is it Mr Tan can be abused but others cannot please.
We should send that proof to the EFL, the FAW and the Premier league who all refuse to accept that we signed him due to the paper work being incomplete. Sala, being signed for us, according to the photo, died in service, so the Premier league MUST pay the family £ one million, they wont because he was not registered, the PFA can't help the family because he was not formally signed and could not train or play for Cardiff until the official paper work was completed. So the family get nothing other than the fund set up by Cardiff City to help them whilst this is being sorted. Tan will always be out of line with the fans in my eyes for the red shirts but despite the facts that poor E Sala was not COMPLETELY signed properly, which lets off the PL from paying the family, FIFA are saying he was signed enough of the paperwork that Cardiff can go into an embargo or pay the fee.No wonder Tan and his cronies are livid and tried everything to come to some sort of deal with Nantes...Apologies, I cannot edit it but will be happy to see ORIGINAL post deleted ..
Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:06 pm
Forever Blue wrote:UPDATED WEDNESDAY 11TH JANUARY 2023 2pm
FIFA and EFL lift Cardiff City transfer embargo as Bluebirds now free to make signings this month after paying £7million, first instalment of money owing for Emiliano Sala which Nantes FC will receive.
Cardiff City have had their transfer embargo lifted
Cardiff have paid the first instalment of the £15million ( now £20 million with interest and court fees) transfer fee, which was initially £5.3million but has risen to around £7million due to interest.
FIFA and EFL have lifted the transfer embargo placed upon Cardiff City.
News emerged last night the Bluebirds have paid the first instalment of the transfer fee to Nantes for Emiliano Sala, which is in the region of £7million.
In August 2022, the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) rejected Cardiff's appeal over paying the initial money owed to the French club and the Bluebirds were placed under a three-window transfer embargo.
However, Cardiff have paid the first instalment of the £15million transfer fee, which was initially £5.3million but has risen to around £7million due to interest.
Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:14 pm
wez1927 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:UPDATED WEDNESDAY 11TH JANUARY 2023 2pm
FIFA and EFL lift Cardiff City transfer embargo as Bluebirds now free to make signings this month after paying £7million, first instalment of money owing for Emiliano Sala which Nantes FC will receive.
Cardiff City have had their transfer embargo lifted
Cardiff have paid the first instalment of the £15million ( now £20 million with interest and court fees) transfer fee, which was initially £5.3million but has risen to around £7million due to interest.
FIFA and EFL have lifted the transfer embargo placed upon Cardiff City.
News emerged last night the Bluebirds have paid the first instalment of the transfer fee to Nantes for Emiliano Sala, which is in the region of £7million.
In August 2022, the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) rejected Cardiff's appeal over paying the initial money owed to the French club and the Bluebirds were placed under a three-window transfer embargo.
However, Cardiff have paid the first instalment of the £15million transfer fee, which was initially £5.3million but has risen to around £7million due to interest.
Nothing offical still tho .
Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:17 pm
JulesK wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JulesK wrote:Why do you keep twisting words Annis?
All this pay up crap is OK with other people's money so let's let the dust settle and see what's what, as for PFA, well if they say he isn't our player then where do they get their info.
Premier League = papers wrong.
FIFA = papers right.
CAS = papers right.
FAW = papers wrong
PFA = papers wrong.
Also Annis you pulled me up for swearing yesterday but in this thread you have someone calling Mr Tan a w..k.r so how is that fair or is it Mr Tan can be abused but others cannot please.
I try to stop swearing from some of our posters.
Jules,
You can twist everything you like.
Have we not been ordered to pay for Emiliano Sala, plus costs and interest?
Was Emiliano Sala a Cardiff City player?
Honestly Annis, I don't know.
But hopefully we can move away from the bottom with a couple of signings.
I have no need whatsoever to twist things either as I take stuff on here with a pinch of salt as mostly its exaggerated figures.
Wed Jan 11, 2023 3:46 pm
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:13 pm
Forever Blue wrote::bluebird:
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:19 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Forever Blue wrote::bluebird:
Great news.
Hopefully this’ll mean we can bring in a few quality players to move us up the table. Just like last year.
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:36 pm
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:40 pm
Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Not a swipe at the club but a genuine question...
I assume we'll be looking at freebies and loans ONLY again?
If so not a massive pool to pick from
Wed Jan 11, 2023 4:41 pm
Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Not a swipe at the club but a genuine question...
I assume we'll be looking at freebies and loans ONLY again?
If so not a massive pool to pick from
Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:30 pm
Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:55 pm
Wed Jan 11, 2023 6:34 pm
Warwickshire Bluebird wrote:Well said. Feel exactly the same.
Empty vessels.
Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:22 pm
Forever Blue wrote:JulesK wrote:Forever Blue wrote:JulesK wrote:Why do you keep twisting words Annis?
All this pay up crap is OK with other people's money so let's let the dust settle and see what's what, as for PFA, well if they say he isn't our player then where do they get their info.
Premier League = papers wrong.
FIFA = papers right.
CAS = papers right.
FAW = papers wrong
PFA = papers wrong.
Also Annis you pulled me up for swearing yesterday but in this thread you have someone calling Mr Tan a w..k.r so how is that fair or is it Mr Tan can be abused but others cannot please.
I try to stop swearing from some of our posters.
Jules,
You can twist everything you like.
Have we not been ordered to pay for Emiliano Sala, plus costs and interest?
Was Emiliano Sala a Cardiff City player?
Honestly Annis, I don't know.
But hopefully we can move away from the bottom with a couple of signings.
I have no need whatsoever to twist things either as I take stuff on here with a pinch of salt as mostly its exaggerated figures.
As you sat on the fence regarding Sala question??
Show me my exaggerated figures please , that’s twisting things once again.
Personally I don’t know why you even post or look on this forum as All you ever do is slate this forum.
Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:46 am
Pantmawr Bluebird wrote:Not a swipe at the club but a genuine question...
I assume we'll be looking at freebies and loans ONLY again?
If so not a massive pool to pick from
Thu Jan 12, 2023 11:41 am
Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:23 pm
Whistler wrote:I am a little confused!
It was my understanding that EFL were mirroring the FIFA embargo, and it is confirmed by the EFL that they have now lifted it, however surely FIFA should be leading the way on lifting the embargo first following the the payment from City.
So are we now free to operate within this transfer window or not?
Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:40 pm
Simplesimon wrote:Whistler wrote:I am a little confused!
It was my understanding that EFL were mirroring the FIFA embargo, and it is confirmed by the EFL that they have now lifted it, however surely FIFA should be leading the way on lifting the embargo first following the the payment from City.
So are we now free to operate within this transfer window or not?
I’m as confused.
Can we now “pay” for players?
Thinking about it. Did we have to pay a break fee to get McGuinness back? Was that the hold up?
Thu Jan 12, 2023 8:52 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Simplesimon wrote:Whistler wrote:I am a little confused!
It was my understanding that EFL were mirroring the FIFA embargo, and it is confirmed by the EFL that they have now lifted it, however surely FIFA should be leading the way on lifting the embargo first following the the payment from City.
So are we now free to operate within this transfer window or not?
I’m as confused.
Can we now “pay” for players?
Thinking about it. Did we have to pay a break fee to get McGuinness back? Was that the hold up?
Ok. Thanks for that.
We can only bring loan players in or players that their are no fees involved.