Wed May 17, 2023 8:04 pm
Forever Blue wrote:..... You let yourself down badly as you get on any topic that downs the hierarchy and you still stick up for them.
Tan wants stupid money .....
Wed May 17, 2023 8:09 pm
bluebird04 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like the club are pushing Dalman out? (which I hope they are) so he gives interviews saying I believe sabri will stay. Nothing has nene said to suggest different. Then sarbi announces he's leaving. Rumours break out that bamba was offered the job straight away and now he comes out and says that's not true. We're interviewing. If bamba does indeed get the job. Then it makes him look like a liar and like he doesn't know whats going on at the club.
Hopefully there is a divide in the boardroom now. Could cause one of the 3 clowns to decide to demand their money back and walk away.
Wed May 17, 2023 8:10 pm
Wed May 17, 2023 8:28 pm
Wayne S wrote:Forever Blue wrote:..... You let yourself down badly as you get on any topic that downs the hierarchy and you still stick up for them.
Tan wants stupid money .....
Isn't that the point of debate on a forum? A post takes a certain stance and others join to agree or disagree. That's how it works.
It doesn't really work if there is one side and everyone else is shouted down as idiotic. Whatever the debate is.
As for the price of purchase, that is the owners perogative.
You meet the asking price, negotiate down the asking price or walk away.
To not accept lesser bids must mean he is happy to remain in ownership.
I do agree that he does seem to want to destroy his own asset but that is his right as the owner until I too am a billionaire and can see him off.
Wed May 17, 2023 8:29 pm
Wed May 17, 2023 8:38 pm
wez1927 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like the club are pushing Dalman out? (which I hope they are) so he gives interviews saying I believe sabri will stay. Nothing has nene said to suggest different. Then sarbi announces he's leaving. Rumours break out that bamba was offered the job straight away and now he comes out and says that's not true. We're interviewing. If bamba does indeed get the job. Then it makes him look like a liar and like he doesn't know whats going on at the club.
Hopefully there is a divide in the boardroom now. Could cause one of the 3 clowns to decide to demand their money back and walk away.
I think if Tan wanted dalman gone he would just get rid of him .tbh
Wed May 17, 2023 8:58 pm
bluebird04 wrote:wez1927 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like the club are pushing Dalman out? (which I hope they are) so he gives interviews saying I believe sabri will stay. Nothing has nene said to suggest different. Then sarbi announces he's leaving. Rumours break out that bamba was offered the job straight away and now he comes out and says that's not true. We're interviewing. If bamba does indeed get the job. Then it makes him look like a liar and like he doesn't know whats going on at the club.
Hopefully there is a divide in the boardroom now. Could cause one of the 3 clowns to decide to demand their money back and walk away.
I think if Tan wanted dalman gone he would just get rid of him .tbh
I don't know how it works but he might not be able to just get rid of him as Dalman might call in all his loans. And with the lawsuits etc tan wouldn't want to pay.
I just find it strange Dalman has been more vocal this past week then ever before, and it's coming across as if he doesn't actually know what's going on
Wed May 17, 2023 8:59 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Wayne S wrote:Forever Blue wrote:..... You let yourself down badly as you get on any topic that downs the hierarchy and you still stick up for them.
Tan wants stupid money .....
Isn't that the point of debate on a forum? A post takes a certain stance and others join to agree or disagree. That's how it works.
It doesn't really work if there is one side and everyone else is shouted down as idiotic. Whatever the debate is.
As for the price of purchase, that is the owners perogative.
You meet the asking price, negotiate down the asking price or walk away.
To not accept lesser bids must mean he is happy to remain in ownership.
I do agree that he does seem to want to destroy his own asset but that is his right as the owner until I too am a billionaire and can see him off.
No problem Wayne,
If you believe our club is worth that , that’s your opinion and Tans, see if we can sell, as there is NO rush at this price.
So if he wants that much then he should accept the losses.
Well if he’s happy to remain, then accept the club is losing money.
But me as a fan, am not happy with how our club is run and I won’t be silenced , I pay my money , I am allowed my view / opinion.
Dictators won’t silence me .
He nearly destroyed our club with the despicable rebrand abd Tan and his followers told me to
Move on, I hope you were not one of them.
I can’t stand Tan , what he is doing to our club and if you honestly believe he is doing a great job, well I don’t agree, but I won’t be silenced.
It’s best we stay of each other’s views if I am not allowed my belief , views and facts .
Wed May 17, 2023 9:10 pm
Wed May 17, 2023 9:50 pm
Wed May 17, 2023 11:06 pm
fred keenor wrote:Does anybody really believe MD statements anymore
Wed May 17, 2023 11:47 pm
bluebird7291 wrote:It's an odd one as dalman wanted sabri.
So it's been playing on my mind this, it's one of two things.
1. Tan power trip.
2. Sabri out priced himself knowing full well we wouldn't pay it. As he didn't fancy the challenge.
Thu May 18, 2023 12:04 am
Thu May 18, 2023 12:36 am
rumpo kid wrote:Is Tan still bankrolling the club? Think that gets overlooked in all the fog around the place..
Thu May 18, 2023 5:20 am
Wayne S wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Wayne S wrote:Forever Blue wrote:..... You let yourself down badly as you get on any topic that downs the hierarchy and you still stick up for them.
Tan wants stupid money .....
Isn't that the point of debate on a forum? A post takes a certain stance and others join to agree or disagree. That's how it works.
It doesn't really work if there is one side and everyone else is shouted down as idiotic. Whatever the debate is.
As for the price of purchase, that is the owners perogative.
You meet the asking price, negotiate down the asking price or walk away.
To not accept lesser bids must mean he is happy to remain in ownership.
I do agree that he does seem to want to destroy his own asset but that is his right as the owner until I too am a billionaire and can see him off.
No problem Wayne,
If you believe our club is worth that , that’s your opinion and Tans, see if we can sell, as there is NO rush at this price.
So if he wants that much then he should accept the losses.
Well if he’s happy to remain, then accept the club is losing money.
But me as a fan, am not happy with how our club is run and I won’t be silenced , I pay my money , I am allowed my view / opinion.
Dictators won’t silence me .
He nearly destroyed our club with the despicable rebrand abd Tan and his followers told me to
Move on, I hope you were not one of them.
I can’t stand Tan , what he is doing to our club and if you honestly believe he is doing a great job, well I don’t agree, but I won’t be silenced.
It’s best we stay of each other’s views if I am not allowed my belief , views and facts .
My point was that you are absolutely allowed your belief but so do others as well.
You may not think it but there is not a single thing you said that I do not agree with. We have the same view.
It's just that I see Tan with all the cards as the owner. We have no say or should I say it falls on deaf ears.
The club is obviously overpriced but tell me, how can we affect that?
Thu May 18, 2023 6:28 am
Thu May 18, 2023 6:31 am
Thu May 18, 2023 6:43 am
Thu May 18, 2023 9:40 am
Forever Blue wrote:bluebird04 wrote:wez1927 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like the club are pushing Dalman out? (which I hope they are) so he gives interviews saying I believe sabri will stay. Nothing has nene said to suggest different. Then sarbi announces he's leaving. Rumours break out that bamba was offered the job straight away and now he comes out and says that's not true. We're interviewing. If bamba does indeed get the job. Then it makes him look like a liar and like he doesn't know whats going on at the club.
Hopefully there is a divide in the boardroom now. Could cause one of the 3 clowns to decide to demand their money back and walk away.
I think if Tan wanted dalman gone he would just get rid of him .tbh
I don't know how it works but he might not be able to just get rid of him as Dalman might call in all his loans. And with the lawsuits etc tan wouldn't want to pay.
I just find it strange Dalman has been more vocal this past week then ever before, and it's coming across as if he doesn't actually know what's going on
Tan can’t get rid of Dalman anymore as he owes him around £25mill.
I spoke today to someone close to Dalman and Dalman is going NO where.
Dalman has started to increase his comments virtually blaming Tan for anything that goes wrong.
Thu May 18, 2023 10:17 am
Thu May 18, 2023 10:19 am
bluebird04 wrote:Forever Blue wrote:bluebird04 wrote:wez1927 wrote:bluebird04 wrote:Is it just me or does it seem like the club are pushing Dalman out? (which I hope they are) so he gives interviews saying I believe sabri will stay. Nothing has nene said to suggest different. Then sarbi announces he's leaving. Rumours break out that bamba was offered the job straight away and now he comes out and says that's not true. We're interviewing. If bamba does indeed get the job. Then it makes him look like a liar and like he doesn't know whats going on at the club.
Hopefully there is a divide in the boardroom now. Could cause one of the 3 clowns to decide to demand their money back and walk away.
I think if Tan wanted dalman gone he would just get rid of him .tbh
I don't know how it works but he might not be able to just get rid of him as Dalman might call in all his loans. And with the lawsuits etc tan wouldn't want to pay.
I just find it strange Dalman has been more vocal this past week then ever before, and it's coming across as if he doesn't actually know what's going on
Tan can’t get rid of Dalman anymore as he owes him around £25mill.
I spoke today to someone close to Dalman and Dalman is going NO where.
Dalman has started to increase his comments virtually blaming Tan for anything that goes wrong.
thats what i mean Annis, it seems strange that he's been making comments alot lately, and the club seem to be doing the opposite of what he says, is there a rift ? it seems he says we go left, the club will go right, if he is the "Chairman" hes either extremely poorly informed, completely out of the loop, or is he saying the opposite of the clubs decisions to make it seem like he is not in on the decision process
Thu May 18, 2023 11:51 am
Thu May 18, 2023 1:44 pm
Forever Blue wrote:Weird but why?
I can confirm since the last accounts, Dalman has lent Cardiff City more money at min 9% interest.
It was approx £19mill and it’s now over £25mill, could even be as much as £30mins.
This will show in next year’s accounts plus all the interest Dalman receives.
So anyone who keeps saying our debts are all owed to Tan are way off.
Thu May 18, 2023 1:54 pm
Wayne S wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Weird but why?
I can confirm since the last accounts, Dalman has lent Cardiff City more money at min 9% interest.
It was approx £19mill and it’s now over £25mill, could even be as much as £30mins.
This will show in next year’s accounts plus all the interest Dalman receives.
So anyone who keeps saying our debts are all owed to Tan are way off.
Is it THAT difficult to get a normal loans from financial institutions at normal rates?
Why are footbal clubs at the mercy of people charging large interest rates?
Thu May 18, 2023 2:58 pm
Thu May 18, 2023 3:09 pm
wez1927 wrote:Wayne S wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Weird but why?
I can confirm since the last accounts, Dalman has lent Cardiff City more money at min 9% interest.
It was approx £19mill and it’s now over £25mill, could even be as much as £30mins.
This will show in next year’s accounts plus all the interest Dalman receives.
So anyone who keeps saying our debts are all owed to Tan are way off.
Is it THAT difficult to get a normal loans from financial institutions at normal rates?
Why are footbal clubs at the mercy of people charging large interest rates?
8 to 10% is normal commercial loan rates tbh its always been higher .but remember Isaacs was charging 20%
Thu May 18, 2023 3:52 pm
Thu May 18, 2023 5:46 pm
Thu May 18, 2023 7:19 pm
Fri May 19, 2023 5:19 am
JulesK wrote:Annis, firstly, not causing trouble here before anyone else twists it but what did you think of Tan when you met him as one of the first all those years ago?
First impressions and all that mate.
IMO the next owner of our club is going to be a consortium of hedge funders led by The Politician.