Tue Jul 25, 2023 9:28 am
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:09 pm
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:57 pm
Forever Blue wrote:JulesK wrote:Forever Blue wrote:Yes without a doubt.
Moore was sold to Wolves behind his back And Choo refused that they wanted to pay £7mill over 3 years and demanded it all upfront for Tan.
Wolves said No , Moore from them on was not the sane knowing we wanted to sell him and so rightly wanted to leave.
Moore has vowed to tell his side one day and you will hear this and much more.
He was as asset, assets get sold.
Also, if he has so much beef with us why would he come back Annis?
Plus, I believe it's the case that he hasn't completed one full contract term.
Jules,
I never said Moore would come back?
Plus it’s not Tan running the show anymore it’s Dalmans show and we know how convincing he can be.
Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:01 pm
Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:08 pm
Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:39 pm
HarriRhys22 wrote:His signing would almost guarantee 20 goals from him and a top 6 finish. Let’s hope Rambo,captain of Wales attracts more Welsh International signings.Harry Wilson or David Brooks on loan would be great or even Henessey,Ward or Adam Davies as No 1 Goalkeeper!
Wed Jul 26, 2023 10:53 am
Wed Jul 26, 2023 11:48 am
MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:It's been an interesting debate this.
The vast majority wanting to see Kieffer Moore return (87% to date) and yet plenty keen to highlight in detail the pitfalls from his time leading up to his move to Bournemouth. (letting the fans down; downing tools etc)
Personally, I'd still like to see him come back, but not if a certain element of our support are going to be on his back as soon as he makes an error or two!
Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:41 pm
Peterthornehill wrote:MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:It's been an interesting debate this.
The vast majority wanting to see Kieffer Moore return (87% to date) and yet plenty keen to highlight in detail the pitfalls from his time leading up to his move to Bournemouth. (letting the fans down; downing tools etc)
Personally, I'd still like to see him come back, but not if a certain element of our support are going to be on his back as soon as he makes an error or two!
If he signs then people will back him, it will be a fresh start and see how he goes. Obviously if he's squashed whatever it was with the powers above then that's good enough for me, everyone can make mistakes. I voted yes I'd like to see him back, but I can also be on the fence about a signing when the issues we saw were directly tied to his character, any player that would rather sink a ship, (when we know he can perform) to make a point is a bit on the childish side. Like I get why he did it, but I just prefer the sol bamba, sory Kaba, manga, gunnarson energy of I'm going to run through walls for this club no matter what, then when those characters do make mistakes, no one gets on their backs because we know they are trying 100%.
I don't think people will get on Moore's back straight away, everyone sceptical still wants him to come back with a point to prove and perform. But it's understandable people are sceptical. Effort and helping our club is the minimum people expect.
Wed Jul 26, 2023 12:57 pm
MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:Peterthornehill wrote:MR BIRCHGROVE wrote:It's been an interesting debate this.
The vast majority wanting to see Kieffer Moore return (87% to date) and yet plenty keen to highlight in detail the pitfalls from his time leading up to his move to Bournemouth. (letting the fans down; downing tools etc)
Personally, I'd still like to see him come back, but not if a certain element of our support are going to be on his back as soon as he makes an error or two!
If he signs then people will back him, it will be a fresh start and see how he goes. Obviously if he's squashed whatever it was with the powers above then that's good enough for me, everyone can make mistakes. I voted yes I'd like to see him back, but I can also be on the fence about a signing when the issues we saw were directly tied to his character, any player that would rather sink a ship, (when we know he can perform) to make a point is a bit on the childish side. Like I get why he did it, but I just prefer the sol bamba, sory Kaba, manga, gunnarson energy of I'm going to run through walls for this club no matter what, then when those characters do make mistakes, no one gets on their backs because we know they are trying 100%.
I don't think people will get on Moore's back straight away, everyone sceptical still wants him to come back with a point to prove and perform. But it's understandable people are sceptical. Effort and helping our club is the minimum people expect.
Very well summed up. I agree with your points.
I can understand some fans being a little sceptical. Although I'd prefer to give him the benefit of the doubt as in that final season where I could understand the dip in form. The combination of contracting covid more than once, where he was in and out of the team, poor team performances along with all the transfer speculation etc.
But it's those fans who have made it clear they don't want him to return that I think could turn against him prematurely, if he returns.
If he does return, I just hope for all our sakes, he performs to the best of his ability and put the negative thoughts of all doubters to bed.