Lennon Peake

What I find ironic about this, is that Morison signed Peake for us. So obviously has a positive opinion of him and has now re signed him. Peake obviously likes what Morison does. Otherwise he wouldn’t have signed up with him twice. Plus Leahy has done the same. Yet, on the forum Morison is supposed to be a full on Bully with youngsters.

An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.

Hornchurch play at tier 7

I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10

There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views

No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.

It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.

A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.

In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.

Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...

What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'

I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...

Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...

The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...

Sorry it that disappoints you...!

Spot on Chris,

The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.

Haha. No one hopes he fails.

But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.

I'll say again... good luck to the lad.

And that couple of sentences proves my whole point above...

You know little or nothing about the behind-the-scenes shenannigans (now all sorted) but you still feel you know the situation...

He doesn't have a poor attitude; that is something you and others have labelled him as having due to your ignorance and determination to see only the negative...

I appreciate you are a Bluebird supporter and I appreciate lots of what you post; but you are a rather negative one without foundation on times...

Nagative I am not.

Passionate I am.

So tell us what you know. If you want opinions changed.

On the face of it every fan here apart from you and Annis who claim to know the family personally (which leads me to believe you guys are not neutral in your opinions) have labelled him similar to me.

Our facts are he has refused to do as the club told. And the facts show that if he did, maybe he'd be in a different place now.

I'm sorry. But I'm with the club on this one.

What I find ironic about this, is that Morison signed Peake for us. So obviously has a positive opinion of him and has now re signed him. Peake obviously likes what Morison does. Otherwise he wouldn’t have signed up with him twice. Plus Leahy has done the same. Yet, on the forum Morison is supposed to be a full on Bully with youngsters.

Yeah and he wasnt good at signing players.

It’s whatever suits.

An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.

Hornchurch play at tier 7

I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10

There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views

No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.

It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.

A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.

In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.

Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...

What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'

I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...

Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...

The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...

Sorry it that disappoints you...!

Spot on Chris,

The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.

Haha. No one hopes he fails.

But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.

I'll say again... good luck to the lad.

And that couple of sentences proves my whole point above...

You know little or nothing about the behind-the-scenes shenannigans (now all sorted) but you still feel you know the situation...

He doesn't have a poor attitude; that is something you and others have labelled him as having due to your ignorance and determination to see only the negative...

I appreciate you are a Bluebird supporter and I appreciate lots of what you post; but you are a rather negative one without foundation on times...

That’s the whole point about this forum and forums in general.

No one knows the behind the scenes stuff with most of what goes on yet it doesn’t stop them having their opinion.

There’s a certain defensiveness about this lad as people know his family. That’s fine loyalty is good. But to criticise others based on evidence that would hold up in other cases the defenders of this lad have commented on is a bit much. To say people want the lad to fail is ridiculous too.

There’s a lot that has been said that has been disingenuous here. Crikey ‘he has offers from league clubs’ was said. Now he signs for a 15th tier club. Maybe his level maybe not but it’s the level he’s currently at. He could easily get fit at a higher level club and if he was good enough he would be given that opportunity.

Ok here’s one major fact:


Lennon didn’t go to the welsh league as 95% of the clubs play on 4g and train on 4g it would kill him with the knee injury he had

Why didn’t you say that in the first place?

An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.

Hornchurch play at tier 7

I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10

There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views

No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.

It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.

A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.

In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.

Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...

What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'

I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...

Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...

The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...

Sorry it that disappoints you...!

Spot on Chris,

The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.

Haha. No one hopes he fails.

But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.

I'll say again... good luck to the lad.

And that couple of sentences proves my whole point above...

You know little or nothing about the behind-the-scenes shenannigans (now all sorted) but you still feel you know the situation...

He doesn't have a poor attitude; that is something you and others have labelled him as having due to your ignorance and determination to see only the negative...

I appreciate you are a Bluebird supporter and I appreciate lots of what you post; but you are a rather negative one without foundation on times...

That’s the whole point about this forum and forums in general.

No one knows the behind the scenes stuff with most of what goes on yet it doesn’t stop them having their opinion.

There’s a certain defensiveness about this lad as people know his family. That’s fine loyalty is good. But to criticise others based on evidence that would hold up in other cases the defenders of this lad have commented on is a bit much. To say people want the lad to fail is ridiculous too.

There’s a lot that has been said that has been disingenuous here. Crikey ‘he has offers from league clubs’ was said. Now he signs for a 15th tier club. Maybe his level maybe not but it’s the level he’s currently at. He could easily get fit at a higher level club and if he was good enough he would be given that opportunity.

Absolutely spot on. Thank you. Well written and explained.

Maybe I was harsh saying the lad had a bad attitude. But I'll stick with he has been given very bad advice. And the facts show as much.

Why didn’t you say that in the first place?

He would train with Cardiff though wouldn't he?! Does anyone know If Ponty have a grass pitch?

There's a misinformation campaign here, mainly aimed at discrediting Purse and the Academy. Who we all know could do better, but are hardly working against the clubs interests as some imply!!

An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.

Hornchurch play at tier 7

I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10

There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views

No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.

It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.

A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.

In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.

Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...

What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'

I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...

Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...

The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...

Sorry it that disappoints you...!

Spot on Chris,

The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.

Haha. No one hopes he fails.

But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.

I'll say again... good luck to the lad.

And that couple of sentences proves my whole point above...

You know little or nothing about the behind-the-scenes shenannigans (now all sorted) but you still feel you know the situation...

He doesn't have a poor attitude; that is something you and others have labelled him as having due to your ignorance and determination to see only the negative...

I appreciate you are a Bluebird supporter and I appreciate lots of what you post; but you are a rather negative one without foundation on times...

Nagative I am not.

Passionate I am.

So tell us what you know. If you want opinions changed.

On the face of it every fan here apart from you and Annis who claim to know the family personally (which leads me to believe you guys are not neutral in your opinions) have labelled him similar to me.

Our facts are he has refused to do as the club told. And the facts show that if he did, maybe he'd be in a different place now.

I'm sorry. But I'm with the club on this one.

Knowledge is King, fella, and we've already told you what we know; but you are determined to believe the negatives and your opinion is unlikrly tp change, is it...?

What you have decided are 'negatives' are some way from the truth, as is your assumation that I know the family, which I do not, although I have been introduced to his very supportive dad...

Why didn’t you say that in the first place?

He would train with Cardiff though wouldn't he?! Does anyone know If Ponty have a grass pitch?

There's a misinformation campaign here, mainly aimed at discrediting Purse and the Academy. Who we all know could do better, but are hardly working against the clubs interests as some imply!!

No one needs to discredit Purse, he does that himself.

For me Purse should not be there.

I have not wanted Purse there for the last 2yrs, I hear a lot from players and coaches.

Why didn’t you say that in the first place?

He would train with Cardiff though wouldn't he?! Does anyone know If Ponty have a grass pitch?

There's a misinformation campaign here, mainly aimed at discrediting Purse and the Academy. Who we all know could do better, but are hardly working against the clubs interests as some imply!!

Think I’m correct in saying, that it would only have been H’west and Caernarfon that had grass pitches last year. All the other clubs have gone the 3/4G route.

Another youngster who was never going to be good enough for Championship level, but was given a huge buildup by some on here. There’s a reason why he’s gone to a Non-League club..

An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.

Hornchurch play at tier 7

I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10

There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views

No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.

It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.

A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.

In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.

Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...

What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'

I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...

Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...

The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...

Sorry it that disappoints you...!

Spot on Chris,

The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.

Haha. No one hopes he fails.

But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.

I'll say again... good luck to the lad.

And that couple of sentences proves my whole point above...

You know little or nothing about the behind-the-scenes shenannigans (now all sorted) but you still feel you know the situation...

He doesn't have a poor attitude; that is something you and others have labelled him as having due to your ignorance and determination to see only the negative...

I appreciate you are a Bluebird supporter and I appreciate lots of what you post; but you are a rather negative one without foundation on times...

Nagative I am not.

Passionate I am.

So tell us what you know. If you want opinions changed.

On the face of it every fan here apart from you and Annis who claim to know the family personally (which leads me to believe you guys are not neutral in your opinions) have labelled him similar to me.

Our facts are he has refused to do as the club told. And the facts show that if he did, maybe he'd be in a different place now.

I'm sorry. But I'm with the club on this one.

Knowledge is King, fella, and we've already told you what we know; but you are determined to believe the negatives and your opinion is unlikrly tp change, is it...?

What you have decided are 'negatives' are some way from the truth, as is your assumation that I know the family, which I do not, although I have been introduced to his very supportive dad...

Knowledge is king??

Again, disingenuous. It’s not knowledge is it. It’s two people’s perspective. It’s not factual.

He never kicked a ball for us, it’s about time we all moved on.

An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.

Hornchurch play at tier 7

I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10

There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views

No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.

It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.

A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.

In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.

Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...

What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'

I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...

Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...

The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...

Sorry it that disappoints you...!

Spot on Chris,

The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.

Haha. No one hopes he fails.

But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.

I'll say again... good luck to the lad.

And that couple of sentences proves my whole point above...

You know little or nothing about the behind-the-scenes shenannigans (now all sorted) but you still feel you know the situation...

He doesn't have a poor attitude; that is something you and others have labelled him as having due to your ignorance and determination to see only the negative...

I appreciate you are a Bluebird supporter and I appreciate lots of what you post; but you are a rather negative one without foundation on times...

Nagative I am not.

Passionate I am.

So tell us what you know. If you want opinions changed.

On the face of it every fan here apart from you and Annis who claim to know the family personally (which leads me to believe you guys are not neutral in your opinions) have labelled him similar to me.

Our facts are he has refused to do as the club told. And the facts show that if he did, maybe he'd be in a different place now.

I'm sorry. But I'm with the club on this one.

Knowledge is King, fella, and we've already told you what we know; but you are determined to believe the negatives and your opinion is unlikrly tp change, is it...?

What you have decided are 'negatives' are some way from the truth, as is your assumation that I know the family, which I do not, although I have been introduced to his very supportive dad...

Knowledge is king??

Again, disingenuous. It’s not knowledge is it. It’s two people’s perspective. It’s not factual.

It's not two people's perspective, is it? And what exactly is not factual...?

That City let him down (until it was too late) not just on the field of play but off it...?

That he was approached by other clubs, inc. Premier League bound Luton Town...?

That City (at the last minute) offered him a season at KV Kjortvik...?

Seems the disingenuous one is the one who maintains none of the above happened when it factually did...!

An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.

Hornchurch play at tier 7

I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10

There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views

No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.

It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.

A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.

In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.

Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...

What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'

I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...

Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...

The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...

Sorry it that disappoints you...!

Spot on Chris,

The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.

Haha. No one hopes he fails.

But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.

I'll say again... good luck to the lad.

And that couple of sentences proves my whole point above...

You know little or nothing about the behind-the-scenes shenannigans (now all sorted) but you still feel you know the situation...

He doesn't have a poor attitude; that is something you and others have labelled him as having due to your ignorance and determination to see only the negative...

I appreciate you are a Bluebird supporter and I appreciate lots of what you post; but you are a rather negative one without foundation on times...

Nagative I am not.

Passionate I am.

So tell us what you know. If you want opinions changed.

On the face of it every fan here apart from you and Annis who claim to know the family personally (which leads me to believe you guys are not neutral in your opinions) have labelled him similar to me.

Our facts are he has refused to do as the club told. And the facts show that if he did, maybe he'd be in a different place now.

I'm sorry. But I'm with the club on this one.

Knowledge is King, fella, and we've already told you what we know; but you are determined to believe the negatives and your opinion is unlikrly tp change, is it...?

What you have decided are 'negatives' are some way from the truth, as is your assumation that I know the family, which I do not, although I have been introduced to his very supportive dad...

Knowledge is king??

Again, disingenuous. It’s not knowledge is it. It’s two people’s perspective. It’s not factual.

It's not two people's perspective, is it? And what exactly is not factual...?

That City let him down (until it was too late) not just on the field of play but off it...?

That he was approached by other clubs, inc. Premier League bound Luton Town...?

That City (at the last minute) offered him a season at KV Kjortvik...?

Seems the disingenuous one is the one who maintains none of the above happened when it factually did...!

I wasn't going to comment further...

But this is the worst case of pick and choose the facts that suit your narrative that I think I've ever read.

Do better Sven. You're embarrassing yourself.

No one doubts any of those things happened.

Simply stating if he's too good for us (as you imply) why is he not at a higher level? Being offered to Luton is very different to playing for them. Faceplant 1.

City let him down. Completely yours and Annis' opinion. In mine as a City fan, he refused to go on loan as advised by the club. Therefore he (or his advisers) let the club down. Faceplant 2.

If he was offered a loan in Belgium. Why not go? A higher league than he's at now. Work hard. Prove himself, in ability and fitness. This is what we wanted. Not a Billy big balls attitude - 'I'm too good for this' (as it appears to the casual observer - we're not all lucky enough to be ITK). Faceplant 3.

You won't win this one Sven. Listen to yourself.

I wasn't going to comment further...

But this is the worst case of pick and choose the facts that suit your narrative that I think I've ever read.

Do better Sven. You're embarrassing yourself.

No one doubts any of those things happened.

Simply stating if he's too good for us (as you imply) why is he not at a higher level? Being offered to Luton is very different to playing for them. Faceplant 1.

City let him down. Completely yours and Annis' opinion. In mine as a City fan, he refused to go on loan as advised by the club. Therefore he (or his advisers) let the club down. Faceplant 2.

If he was offered a loan in Belgium. Why not go? A higher league than he's at now. Work hard. Prove himself, in ability and fitness. This is what we wanted. Not a Billy big balls attitude - 'I'm too good for this' (as it appears to the casual observer - we're not all lucky enough to be ITK). Faceplant 3.

You won't win this one Sven. Listen to yourself.

I already 'won' this by knowing the facts; and there are more; and the only person who needs to (quote) "listen to himself" is you; ...

You keep harping on about us defending Lennon because we know him but whether we do or not, that does us a disservice, as we also know other players (as do many on here) but you don't see us building them up in similar fashion, do you?

Nope, you certainly don't; and that is because we believe in Lennon's talent anf that if he can prove his fitness in the longer term, he will make the grade at least at Championship level and I pray that he does that for him as a talent and a person...

However, you are intent on perpetuating the myth that none of the above was anyone's fault but Lennon's when the wider truth is that it was. Steve Morison and Mark Hudson lovef him but sadly, Darren Purse had another opinion and Erol Bulut was never given the opportunity to assess...

Comment no more? That would be a first!

You clearly have an agenda to pick up on anything involving Lennon; but I will ask you two more questions, i.e. do you actually know why Lennon didn't pick up a place at any of the League clubs he (and his advisors) spoke to? Also, do you know exactly what happened behind the scenes prior to him leaving the CCS...?

Going on your posts on this thread to date, you most certainly do not...!

Face plant major! (Whatever that means)

That's the end of discussion for me on this thread. I am comfortable woth my comments to date and any retort from here on inwould (a) be falling on deaf ears and (b) be perpetuating your myth that it's all down to Lennon and hus attitude...

Fill your boots in my absence, fella; my shoulders are broad...!

I wasn't going to comment further...

But this is the worst case of pick and choose the facts that suit your narrative that I think I've ever read.

Do better Sven. You're embarrassing yourself.

No one doubts any of those things happened.

Simply stating if he's too good for us (as you imply) why is he not at a higher level? Being offered to Luton is very different to playing for them. Faceplant 1.

City let him down. Completely yours and Annis' opinion. In mine as a City fan, he refused to go on loan as advised by the club. Therefore he (or his advisers) let the club down. Faceplant 2.

If he was offered a loan in Belgium. Why not go? A higher league than he's at now. Work hard. Prove himself, in ability and fitness. This is what we wanted. Not a Billy big balls attitude - 'I'm too good for this' (as it appears to the casual observer - we're not all lucky enough to be ITK). Faceplant 3.

You won't win this one Sven. Listen to yourself.

I already 'won' this by knowing the facts; and there are more; and the only person who needs to (quote) "listen to himself" is you; ...

You keep harping on about us defending Lennon because we know him but whether we do or not, that does us a disservice, as we also know other players (as do many on here) but you don't see us building them up in similar fashion, do you?

Nope, you certainly don't; and that is because we believe in Lennon's talent anf that if he can prove his fitness in the longer term, he will make the grade at least at Championship level and I pray that he does that for him as a talent and a person...

However, you are intent on perpetuating the myth that none of the above was anyone's fault but Lennon's when the wider truth is that it was. Steve Morison and Mark Hudson lovef him but sadly, Darren Purse had another opinion and Erol Bulut was never given the opportunity to assess...

Comment no more? That would be a first!

You clearly have an agenda to pick up on anything involving Lennon; but I will ask you two more questions, i.e. do you actually know why Lennon didn't pick up a place at any of the League clubs he (and his advisors) spoke to? Also, do you know exactly what happened behind the scenes prior to him leaving the CCS...?

Going on your posts on this thread to date, you most certainly do not...!

Face plant major! (Whatever that means)

That's the end of discussion for me on this thread. I am comfortable woth my comments to date and any retort from here on inwould (a) be falling on deaf ears and (b) be perpetuating your myth that it's all down to Lennon and hus attitude...

Fill your boots in my absence, fella; my shoulders are broad...!

Apart from Annis... nobody agrees with you on this fella.

I think that says it all.

Telling each other the same 'truths' does not indeed make anything fact.

Correct !!

At the end of the day he's an ex Cardiff City player, just wish him well in his career & be done with it people.

I wasn't going to comment further...

But this is the worst case of pick and choose the facts that suit your narrative that I think I've ever read.

Do better Sven. You're embarrassing yourself.

No one doubts any of those things happened.

Simply stating if he's too good for us (as you imply) why is he not at a higher level? Being offered to Luton is very different to playing for them. Faceplant 1.

City let him down. Completely yours and Annis' opinion. In mine as a City fan, he refused to go on loan as advised by the club. Therefore he (or his advisers) let the club down. Faceplant 2.

If he was offered a loan in Belgium. Why not go? A higher league than he's at now. Work hard. Prove himself, in ability and fitness. This is what we wanted. Not a Billy big balls attitude - 'I'm too good for this' (as it appears to the casual observer - we're not all lucky enough to be ITK). Faceplant 3.

You won't win this one Sven. Listen to yourself.

I already 'won' this by knowing the facts; and there are more; and the only person who needs to (quote) "listen to himself" is you; ...

You keep harping on about us defending Lennon because we know him but whether we do or not, that does us a disservice, as we also know other players (as do many on here) but you don't see us building them up in similar fashion, do you?

Nope, you certainly don't; and that is because we believe in Lennon's talent anf that if he can prove his fitness in the longer term, he will make the grade at least at Championship level and I pray that he does that for him as a talent and a person...

However, you are intent on perpetuating the myth that none of the above was anyone's fault but Lennon's when the wider truth is that it was. Steve Morison and Mark Hudson lovef him but sadly, Darren Purse had another opinion and Erol Bulut was never given the opportunity to assess...

Comment no more? That would be a first!

You clearly have an agenda to pick up on anything involving Lennon; but I will ask you two more questions, i.e. do you actually know why Lennon didn't pick up a place at any of the League clubs he (and his advisors) spoke to? Also, do you know exactly what happened behind the scenes prior to him leaving the CCS...?

Going on your posts on this thread to date, you most certainly do not...!

Face plant major! (Whatever that means)

That's the end of discussion for me on this thread. I am comfortable woth my comments to date and any retort from here on inwould (a) be falling on deaf ears and (b) be perpetuating your myth that it's all down to Lennon and hus attitude...

Fill your boots in my absence, fella; my shoulders are broad...!

Apart from Annis... nobody agrees with you on this fella.

I think that says it all.

Telling each other the same 'truths' does not indeed make anything fact.

Well perhaps we know on the Lennon case a lot more than you do.

7 games for the U21’s 5 goals / 3 assists

As I said Lennon’s career will get back on track if he stays injury free.

Just shows the fine lines with all these kids and why education is so important at the academies.

The game is littered with talented kids who never reached the level they dreamed of through no fault of their own. Some through just bad luck, someone didn't fancy them at that time at that club or the club had similar players, growth spurts that meant you lose that finite coordination that separates the good ones and those who may make it as a professional; some through career limiting or ending injuries before you got going.

99% of us pay to play, so hats off to anyone who is or was paid to play.

Hopefully, the lad regains that physical condition, coordination and confidence that made him a decent prospect at a premier league club also hope Jack Leahy kicks on with his career, and if they don't get into the EFL at least they are living the dream.

Just shows the fine lines with all these kids and why education is so important at the academies.

The game is littered with talented kids who never reached the level they dreamed of through no fault of their own. Some through just bad luck, someone didn't fancy them at that time at that club or the club had similar players, growth spurts that meant you lose that finite coordination that separates the good ones and those who may make it as a professional; some through career limiting or ending injuries before you got going.

99% of us pay to play, so hats off to anyone who is or was paid to play.

Hopefully, the lad regains that physical condition, coordination and confidence that made him a decent prospect at a premier league club also hope Jack Leahy kicks on with his career, and if they don't get into the EFL at least they are living the dream.

Very very sensible post and I agree with you .

Others just could not wait to see the down fall of the lad, they must lead very very sad lives.

Just shows the fine lines with all these kids and why education is so important at the academies.

The game is littered with talented kids who never reached the level they dreamed of through no fault of their own. Some through just bad luck, someone didn't fancy them at that time at that club or the club had similar players, growth spurts that meant you lose that finite coordination that separates the good ones and those who may make it as a professional; some through career limiting or ending injuries before you got going.

99% of us pay to play, so hats off to anyone who is or was paid to play.

Hopefully, the lad regains that physical condition, coordination and confidence that made him a decent prospect at a premier league club also hope Jack Leahy kicks on with his career, and if they don't get into the EFL at least they are living the dream.

Very very sensible post and I agree with you .

Others just could not wait to see the down fall of the lad, they must lead very very sad lives.

Behave fella.

I agree with everything Llan has said and more.

Nobody at any time has said we wish him to fail. Infact, the opposite. Once a Bluebird and all that.

This is the issue. You have a narrative against the club. Stop it!!

Call us usual suspects, negative, Tan Lovers, whatever you like.

The issue myself and many others have is unwavering bias. You hearing from his family, telling Sven, repeating it. Does not make anything gospel. It's single source information. It was the same with the ITK transfer nonsense. The same people telling the same tales enough times and they start to believe it as fact.

You can belittle and say we're jealous cos 'we don't know the facts.' The only fact is you know one side of this story.

I support our club.

Just shows the fine lines with all these kids and why education is so important at the academies.

The game is littered with talented kids who never reached the level they dreamed of through no fault of their own. Some through just bad luck, someone didn't fancy them at that time at that club or the club had similar players, growth spurts that meant you lose that finite coordination that separates the good ones and those who may make it as a professional; some through career limiting or ending injuries before you got going.

99% of us pay to play, so hats off to anyone who is or was paid to play.

Hopefully, the lad regains that physical condition, coordination and confidence that made him a decent prospect at a premier league club also hope Jack Leahy kicks on with his career, and if they don't get into the EFL at least they are living the dream.

Very very sensible post and I agree with you .

Others just could not wait to see the down fall of the lad, they must lead very very sad lives.

Behave fella.

I agree with everything Llan has said and more.

Nobody at any time has said we wish him to fail. Infact, the opposite. Once a Bluebird and all that.

This is the issue. You have a narrative against the club. Stop it!!

Call us usual suspects, negative, Tan Lovers, whatever you like.

The issue myself and many others have is unwavering bias. You hearing from his family, telling Sven, repeating it. Does not make anything gospel. It's single source information. It was the same with the ITK transfer nonsense. The same people telling the same tales enough times and they start to believe it as fact.

You can belittle and say we're jealous cos 'we don't know the facts.' The only fact is you know one side of this story.

I support our club.

I support our club NO matter, I support Cardiff City.

I don’t support the Regine or Darren Purse.

Purse was sending him to Pontypridd to play, he knew then that Lennon would go back to London.

I stand by this, Purse is a disaster so far in the U21’s.

Lennon will make it, if he stays injury free.

Ok here’s one major fact:


Lennon didn’t go to the welsh league as 95% of the clubs play on 4g and train on 4g it would kill him with the knee injury he had

There are a lot of clubs in that league with artificial grass though Annis, although his club is. not one of them yet.

Isthmian . (21/22).
AFC Sudbury @ Wardale Williams Stadium, Brundon Lane, CO10 7HN.
Ashford Utd @ Holmelands, Ashford Rd, Kingsnorth, TN26 1NJ.
Aveley @ Parkside, Park Lane, RM15 4PX.
Barking @ Mayesbrook Park , Lodge Avenue , Barking , RM8 2JR.
Basingstoke Town @ Hampshire FA Complex, Winklebury Way, Basingstoke, RG23 8BF
Bedfont Sports @ Hatton Rd 3G, Bedfont, TW14 8JA.
Billericay Town @ AGP Arena, Blunts Wall Rd, CM12 9SA.
Bowers and Pitsea @ Len Salmon Stadium, Crown Ave, Pitsea, SS13 2BE.
Carshalton Athletic @ War Memorial Sports Gd, Colston Avenue, SM5 2PW.
Cray Wanderers @ Hayes Lane, BR2 9EF.(Bromley FC).
Grays Athletic @ Parkside, Park Lane, RM15 4PX.
Haringey Borough @ Coles Park Stadium, White Hart Lane. N17 7JN.
Hashtag Utd @ Len Salmon Stadium, Crown Ave, Pitsea, SS13 2BE.
Herne Bay @ Safety Net Stadium , Winch's Field , Stanley Gardens , CT6 5SG.
Heybridge Swifts @ Scraley Road Stadium, CM9 4TT.
Horsham @ Hop Oast Stadium, off Worthing Rd, RH13 0AX.
Lancing @ Culver Road , Lancing , BN15 9AX.
Margate @ Hartsdown Park, Hartsdown Rd, CT95 5QZ.
Ramsgate @ WW Martin Community Stadium , Prices Avenue , CT11 0AN.
Romford @ Mayesbrook Park , Lodge Avenue , Barking , RM8 2JR.
Sevenoaks Town @ Mill Lane, BR1 1QQ.
South Park Reigate @ King Georges Field , Whitehall Lane , Reigate, RH2 8LG.
Walton & Hersham @ Elmbridge Sports Hub, Waterside Drive, KT12 2JP.

Ok here’s one major fact:


Lennon didn’t go to the welsh league as 95% of the clubs play on 4g and train on 4g it would kill him with the knee injury he had

There are a lot of clubs in that league with artificial grass though Annis, although his club is. not one of them yet.

Isthmian . (21/22).
AFC Sudbury @ Wardale Williams Stadium, Brundon Lane, CO10 7HN.
Ashford Utd @ Holmelands, Ashford Rd, Kingsnorth, TN26 1NJ.
Aveley @ Parkside, Park Lane, RM15 4PX.
Barking @ Mayesbrook Park , Lodge Avenue , Barking , RM8 2JR.
Basingstoke Town @ Hampshire FA Complex, Winklebury Way, Basingstoke, RG23 8BF
Bedfont Sports @ Hatton Rd 3G, Bedfont, TW14 8JA.
Billericay Town @ AGP Arena, Blunts Wall Rd, CM12 9SA.
Bowers and Pitsea @ Len Salmon Stadium, Crown Ave, Pitsea, SS13 2BE.
Carshalton Athletic @ War Memorial Sports Gd, Colston Avenue, SM5 2PW.
Cray Wanderers @ Hayes Lane, BR2 9EF.(Bromley FC).
Grays Athletic @ Parkside, Park Lane, RM15 4PX.
Haringey Borough @ Coles Park Stadium, White Hart Lane. N17 7JN.
Hashtag Utd @ Len Salmon Stadium, Crown Ave, Pitsea, SS13 2BE.
Herne Bay @ Safety Net Stadium , Winch's Field , Stanley Gardens , CT6 5SG.
Heybridge Swifts @ Scraley Road Stadium, CM9 4TT.
Horsham @ Hop Oast Stadium, off Worthing Rd, RH13 0AX.
Lancing @ Culver Road , Lancing , BN15 9AX.
Margate @ Hartsdown Park, Hartsdown Rd, CT95 5QZ.
Ramsgate @ WW Martin Community Stadium , Prices Avenue , CT11 0AN.
Romford @ Mayesbrook Park , Lodge Avenue , Barking , RM8 2JR.
Sevenoaks Town @ Mill Lane, BR1 1QQ.
South Park Reigate @ King Georges Field , Whitehall Lane , Reigate, RH2 8LG.
Walton & Hersham @ Elmbridge Sports Hub, Waterside Drive, KT12 2JP.

I can only tell you what his Dad told me, that by playing most of the time on grass was way better for his knee.

this is probably one of those cases where in 10 years you will either say, christ, he played for us, imagine he stayed or it will be remember him, whats his name, was here for a few months and didn't he go non league.

its one thing doing it in the under 23's or under 21's its another doing it in competitive football

An interesting question is being raised here that being where would the Welsh Premier league fit in the English pyramid.

Hornchurch play at tier 7

I personally think that whilst the top two or three clubs could compete at tier 6 or 7 the vast majority of Welsh league clubs would probably be in the region of tier 8,9 or 10

There will always be some decent players that play in the league but overall I don't think the league is that strong at all. Just a personal opinion and interested in other views

No the interesting bit is peoples perception of a loan at this level.

It's not on par with us taking a player from another high calibre club. Them basically moving their whole life for a season. Living, training, playing in Cardiff.

A loan at that level. He'd stay in Cardiff, train with us, physio with us, not even have to move residence. Probably never actually train with his 'new' team. He'd play fixtures with them. That is basically it. It's about proving himself. In fitness and ability. The actial level doesn't really matter. It's always going to be around 5-7.

In reality. He should have gone and if he's as good as the usual suspects make out then he'd have tore it up and could rightly so stick two fingers up at whoever. But he didn't. The story ends.

Ah, so here we have someone who dislikes the term the 'usual suspects' calling others, uhm, the 'usual suspects'...

What you clearly missed is that Lennon was let down by our club on a number of levels, not just the playing side but I doubt very much you will accept any of it. As usual, you dismiss anything you don't see/hear with your own eyes/ears as 'rubbish'

I have limited but sound knowledge of the Lennon Peake story and I will stand by what I know to be the story of his time at the CCS, where the club actually wanted him to stay for this current season; albeit involving a loan deal to build up competitive game time. To this extent, they even offered him a season at Vincent Tan's KV Kjortvik to further assess his progress...

Steve Morison was one of the reasons he came to the CCS, he rated him exceptionally highly, so it's not surprising he has been persuaded to play for Hornchurch in an effort to raise his game to the levels his early promise showed...

The Bluebirds continue to monitor his progress, so it's not impossible he might come back...

Sorry it that disappoints you...!

Spot on Chris,

The usual suspects enjoying and hoping Lennon fails, very sad.

Haha. No one hopes he fails.

But I hope his attitude changes. I'm speaking as a City fan. Nothing else. I have no personal ties to the lad. You two need to take off the Lennon Peake tinted lenses.

I'll say again... good luck to the lad.

And that couple of sentences proves my whole point above...

You know little or nothing about the behind-the-scenes shenannigans (now all sorted) but you still feel you know the situation...

He doesn't have a poor attitude; that is something you and others have labelled him as having due to your ignorance and determination to see only the negative...

I appreciate you are a Bluebird supporter and I appreciate lots of what you post; but you are a rather negative one without foundation on times...

Nagative I am not.

Passionate I am.

So tell us what you know. If you want opinions changed.

On the face of it every fan here apart from you and Annis who claim to know the family personally (which leads me to believe you guys are not neutral in your opinions) have labelled him similar to me.

Our facts are he has refused to do as the club told. And the facts show that if he did, maybe he'd be in a different place now.

I'm sorry. But I'm with the club on this one.

Knowledge is King, fella, and we've already told you what we know; but you are determined to believe the negatives and your opinion is unlikrly tp change, is it...?

What you have decided are 'negatives' are some way from the truth, as is your assumation that I know the family, which I do not, although I have been introduced to his very supportive dad...

Knowledge is king??

Again, disingenuous. It’s not knowledge is it. It’s two people’s perspective. It’s not factual.

It's not two people's perspective, is it? And what exactly is not factual...?

That City let him down (until it was too late) not just on the field of play but off it...?

That he was approached by other clubs, inc. Premier League bound Luton Town...?

That City (at the last minute) offered him a season at KV Kjortvik...?

Seems the disingenuous one is the one who maintains none of the above happened when it factually did...!

Any point in commenting an opinion if it just results in getting banned????

Jimmy Rat is conspicuous by this absence too.

Let's face it peake would of had to be a superstar to get in our midfield,he showed nothing to suggest that's the case .if he stays fit then he will probably make a living from football at football league level , which league who knows .