BACK BULUT OR BACK TAN &BOARD POLL

VT won’t be going anywhere until the Sala business is concluded. And that may take years.

Hit the nail on the head right here I’m afraid.

I voted bulut obviously.
But if it comes down to tan or bukut to go there's only going to be 1 winner. Tan is not going anywhere until he gets what he wants. Which he's not going to get = catch 22= same shit year in year out. Only 1 suffering Cardiff City FC ( and everyone involved i.e fans etc)

I don’t disagree with most of your post, but the fans suffering? I’m certainly not suffering football be release my pleasure and I choose to go. People who are truly suffering do not choose their situation.

I mean fans suffering in terms of results and going through the mill again etc. Not suffering as in a life situation

Tan was never going to sell the club until the Sala fight for compensation was finally over. He clearly feels wronged both financially and reputationally and many of us have criticised him for this fight but are now changing our minds.

He no doubts wants to get out of what has been a financially disastrous business gamble and continues to fund losses and understandably only wants to fund a manager and team that has a chance of getting to the premier league.

A couple of months ago he probably thought he had that chance but notwithstanding that new players would help any push, the results and inability of the manager to get a control over what is happening on the pitch has no doubt got him thinking is this the right time and right man to invest in right now.

Tan was never going to sell the club until the Sala fight for compensation was finally over. He clearly feels wronged both financially and reputationally and many of us have criticised him for this fight but are now changing our minds.

He no doubts wants to get out of what has been a financially disastrous business gamble and continues to fund losses and understandably only wants to fund a manager and team that has a chance of getting to the premier league.

A couple of months ago he probably thought he had that chance but notwithstanding that new players would help any push, the results and inability of the manager to get a control over what is happening on the pitch has no doubt got him thinking is this the right time and right man to invest in right now.

I agree on Tan not going anywhere until the Sala case is ended and I can appreciate that from his point of view...

However, I disagree that the manager has done little to get control over the team. We are far better off than most thought we wiuld be and if you took two of the straight four winning games and put thrm amongst our last six or so, you'd be saying he was doing well...

We are not going to be relegated this season, so let's just stay behind Erol Bulut and his team on the pitch...

Tan was never going to sell the club until the Sala fight for compensation was finally over. He clearly feels wronged both financially and reputationally and many of us have criticised him for this fight but are now changing our minds.

He no doubts wants to get out of what has been a financially disastrous business gamble and continues to fund losses and understandably only wants to fund a manager and team that has a chance of getting to the premier league.

A couple of months ago he probably thought he had that chance but notwithstanding that new players would help any push, the results and inability of the manager to get a control over what is happening on the pitch has no doubt got him thinking is this the right time and right man to invest in right now.

I agree on Tan not going anywhere until the Sala case is ended and I can appreciate that from his point of view...

However, I disagree that the manager has done little to get control over the team. We are far better off than most thought we wiuld be and if you took two of the straight four winning games and put thrm amongst our last six or so, you'd be saying he was doing well...

We are not going to be relegated this season, so let's just stay behind Erol Bulut and his team on the pitch...

I agree with us being better off but it’s the past 2 months form that will have caused Tan to rethink things as has been the case for many of the fans.

Tan should give Bulut at least a another season with us.
It proves that the owner AND board just think about the money.
If it was up to me I would immediately give Bulut a 1 year extension on his contract
then that should give potential new players minds at ease when thinking on a move to us.

Because at the moment it looks like the board and owner simply dont trust Bulut enough to give him the full backing
in the window. AND it shows they dont care for the fans otherwise we would hear from them.
It's just disjointed at our club. There is simply no communication between manager and the board and the board to the fans.
Thankfully Bulut understands the fans more than our board does.

Can’t believe there are 5 members with rose tinted glasses on… each to their own I suppose

SNOOPYSTORM

Usuals budd.

SNOOPYSTORM

Usuals budd.

If you're so sure that they're the "usuals" as you call them why not name who you think 'the usuals" are and what "the usuals" believe in or are they just anyone who has a different opinion than you?

I usually have a different opinion than you so I guess I'll start you off but I haven't voted so hmmmmm.

I don't think it's as black & white as your poll suggests which is why I haven't voted.

Welshman in CA

I don' t know who the usuals are but law of averages would suggest it would be them that would vote for tan above the manager.

SVEN

Yes i know you give a balanced view but the idea that you just have to suck it up for whatever time tan wants to carry on
I would be fine for to carry on if he would be more on board rather than as you said punishing us from past clashes
man utd protested about the glazers
and reading are know protesting and will be interesting to see the outcome but the thought of us carrying on like this fir the foreseeable future is very depressing just making up the numbers in the championship with our hands tied
how can you compete without investment.

Monty, I'm not disagreeing. I'm just a realist and Tan still has things he wants to sort out; but sadly, at the moment the core of the club, i.e. the footballing side, seems to be taking a back seat...

Fair enough that some believe we are 'safe' this season but I feel given our current borderline relegation form, we are absolutely not safe.

Can you see us in the current circs (and after having sent 5 players out and on the assumption of none coming in) pulling 5 wins out the bag? I can't.

SVEN

Yes understand he tan wants to get the sala affair off his back
but surely he needs to do more than just keep us afloat
If and when all that is resolved it would be a better selling point if we are in a better position in the championship rather than a team faltering near the bottom.

I'll be honest guys i don't understand the Bulut vs Tan dynamic

If we are saying Bulut stick or twist then it makes sense.

I'd give him a 2.5 year extension today as we need a structure, but its not Tan vs Bulut.

I'll be honest guys i don't understand the Bulut vs Tan dynamic

If we are saying Bulut stick or twist then it makes sense.

I'd give him a 2.5 year extension today as we need a structure, but its not Tan vs Bulut.

Is there a tan bulut dynamic or is it just peoples perception? Seem to remember he was dalmans choice nothing to do with tan... not sure why its gone from being a dalman show to a bulut/tan showdown?

Because tan calls the shots not dalhman.

Being reported on social media in the last 5 minutes that Bulut has resigned - any truth in this?

Because tan calls the shots not dalhman.

So it's a dalman/tan dynamic then?
And Dalman in London is him taking a holiday ftom moaco? So who is bulut dealing with? Tan in Malaysia or dalman in London? Or is it a case of no-one knows anything.

Pembroke allan

I mentioned dalhman in opening post .

Funny that some said there shouldn't have been a poll.

Plenty of views and replies to this topic as well.

There's also a lot of activity on the poll, with one clear winner.

Pembroke allan

I mentioned dalhman in opening post .

Yes you did as part of the poll "board" you say tan calls the shots but dalman employed bulut and apparently as the say on transfers... so tan is directing things from Malaysia while dalman takes holiday in London? Yet no factual info to support much as to what's going on at club regarding bulut or signings... anyway support bulut for what it's worth

This is all going to come to ahead shortly and if bulut goes or is sacked and the window brings nothing i think the sh.t is going to hit the fan big time
the club have been here to many times year after year fans have accepted we are stuck in a groundhog day

A lot i imagine especially the older will vote with there feet like the time we went red there not the sort to protest
and the youngsters cannot organise a proper protest?(that should get some moving).
A lot have said whats the point in protesting imo it will bring things to the fore with tv coverage etc
Staying away from the game is not going to change anything
gate reciepts would not put a dent in tans finances one bit
Lets just hope things turn out ok but i cannot see either bulut getting his 6 through the door after his rant and god knows what the board think.

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Bulut 100%

He’s brought exciting football back to CCS, just shows that we fans have been right all these years, the board are fcuking us over constantly

Exciting football!!!

So you’re saying the football player in Sept/Oct wasn’t exciting

Bulut 100%

He’s brought exciting football back to CCS, just shows that we fans have been right all these years, the board are fcuking us over constantly

But it was the board that brought Bulut in. So they bring in a great manager player exciting football yet the board are now to blame. lol. Crazy.
Backing bulut is like backing the board by proxy.

Dalman brought EB in not the board so no backing EB is not backing the board, the board and Tan made the promises of backing EB in January and this hasn’t happened

Bulut 100%

He’s brought exciting football back to CCS, just shows that we fans have been right all these years, the board are fcuking us over constantly

Exciting football!!!

So you’re saying the football player in Sept/Oct wasn’t exciting

The football up until the Bristol game was a big improvement from what we've seen in the last few years but since then it's be awful, at times worse than the McCarthy era and certainly worse than but Morison and Hudson's time in charge.

We've played 15 games (including Sheff Wed cup game) since that Bristol game and lost 9 and conceded 27 goals and only scored 12. That's relegation form and definitely not exciting football.

I personally think Bulut is out of his depth. He's way too defensive and makes strange decisions during the game. Other clubs have sussed him out and he's got no answer.

I didn't vote Bulut or Tan as I'm not a fan of either.

It’s funny how we see things differently

I watched the full interview last night and my impression wasn’t (just) money but generally not sealing the deals.
If Moore and a few others were done on principle the money must be there?

Moore played against Liverpool yesterday whilst Robinson is still “unwell”. Are they struggling for his replacement?

I think Bulut is just frustrated that it’s gone to rats shit so quickly, but this league on paper is higher than the Turkish supaliga and it’s brutal,. To make matters worse we are a very small fish in a sea of sharks.

He ll get a few new one in by next week, thank the lord and saviour Vincent Tan and this will be a storm in a teacup

My guess is also he is sulking because he has to get rid of a big earner before he can sign

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As i have said elsewhere we have to compete finacially also otherwise your in bargain basement and the top 8 teams usually are the ones who have outbid the others securing the best olayers we have to decide are we going to pay what moore is on otherwise someone else will if fans or owners are saying we are not paying "silly money" fair enough but watch the others clubs leave us behind .