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Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:20 pm

I woukd like to know when does our rebuild start next season this season i thought thats what bulut was her for
But bulut is not hitting his targets
due to his hands been tied
and so we wait till next season .

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 12:57 pm

montyblue wrote:I woukd like to know when does our rebuild start next season this season i thought thats what bulut was her for
But bulut is not hitting his targets
due to his hands been tied
and so we wait till next season .



Monty,

If you listen to Dalman and Glen Willian’s we have been doing this every year for the past 15 years.

Really fed up of their pure bullshit.

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:20 pm

FOREVER BLUE

So have i
and also people saying we should not pay this and that like it was there money our fanbase is falling through the floor each year because of the dros football without any hope and no rebuild how long can people argue that we should not spend this and that but other teams do and have moved on bulut was here to rebuild .

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:27 pm

Not the done deal we all thought then.

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:41 pm

montyblue wrote:FOREVER BLUE

So have i
and also people saying we should not pay this and that like it was there money our fanbase is falling through the floor each year because of the dros football without any hope and no rebuild how long can people argue that we should not spend this and that but other teams do and have moved on bulut was here to rebuild .

But you’re saying that we should pay it as if it WASN’T your money…

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 1:58 pm

The clubs supposed to be inline to sign him are going for promotion so what if they buy him and dont go up? Left with a 31yr old and a reputed 40k a week wage bill! Sounds as if that's what we will be doing is that clever thing to do considering main complaint from fans is us buying players and putting them on huge wages? Sounds like a lose lose scenario for club

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:43 pm

pembroke allan wrote:The clubs supposed to be inline to sign him are going for promotion so what if they buy him and dont go up? Left with a 31yr old and a reputed 40k a week wage bill! Sounds as if that's what we will be doing is that clever thing to do considering main complaint from fans is us buying players and putting them on huge wages? Sounds like a lose lose scenario for club



We have moved away from signing old players with no sell on value, I think we would be OK to loan him, but there is no way will sign him for the reputed £3mill, especially as all we are playing for is top half mid table or bottom half mid table.

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Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:52 pm

Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:The clubs supposed to be inline to sign him are going for promotion so what if they buy him and dont go up? Left with a 31yr old and a reputed 40k a week wage bill! Sounds as if that's what we will be doing is that clever thing to do considering main complaint from fans is us buying players and putting them on huge wages? Sounds like a lose lose scenario for club



We have moved away from signing old players with no sell on value, I think we would be OK to loan him, but there is no way will sign him for the reputed £3mill, especially as all we are playing for is top half mid table or bottom half mid table.



Club might have gone away from such signings but fans haven't !! Loan even at high wage would be ok of it happens ... as said if Ipswich ect buy him and dont go up they're stuck with him such a waste of money as they would have bought him to help them to promotion they didn't achieve.

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:02 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:The clubs supposed to be inline to sign him are going for promotion so what if they buy him and dont go up? Left with a 31yr old and a reputed 40k a week wage bill! Sounds as if that's what we will be doing is that clever thing to do considering main complaint from fans is us buying players and putting them on huge wages? Sounds like a lose lose scenario for club



We have moved away from signing old players with no sell on value, I think we would be OK to loan him, but there is no way will sign him for the reputed £3mill, especially as all we are playing for is top half mid table or bottom half mid table.



Club might have gone away from such signings but fans haven't !! Loan even at high wage would be ok of it happens ... as said if Ipswich ect buy him and dont go up they're stuck with him such a waste of money as they would have bought him to help them to promotion they didn't achieve.



Yes but the fans are just fans, they can say what they like, the club won't pay a fee for an old player with no sell on value, so it's all pie in the sky. If Ipswich do they will end up like us one day with a load of old players worth feck all on big wages that they can't move on.

Our chickens have come home to roost!

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:09 pm

Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:The clubs supposed to be inline to sign him are going for promotion so what if they buy him and dont go up? Left with a 31yr old and a reputed 40k a week wage bill! Sounds as if that's what we will be doing is that clever thing to do considering main complaint from fans is us buying players and putting them on huge wages? Sounds like a lose lose scenario for club



We have moved away from signing old players with no sell on value, I think we would be OK to loan him, but there is no way will sign him for the reputed £3mill, especially as all we are playing for is top half mid table or bottom half mid table.



Club might have gone away from such signings but fans haven't !! Loan even at high wage would be ok of it happens ... as said if Ipswich ect buy him and dont go up they're stuck with him such a waste of money as they would have bought him to help them to promotion they didn't achieve.



Yes but the fans are just fans, they can say what they like, the club won't pay a fee for an old player with no sell on value, so it's all pie in the sky. If Ipswich do they will end up like us one day with a load of old players worth feck all on big wages that they can't move on.

Our chickens have come home to roost!



Yes and ir will take several years of planning to get it right again... but will say other clubs got similar problems can only see relegated clubs from premier league doing OK as they've cottoned on how to make premier league money work... Luton looking at relegation but have been frugal with spending getting in several lower league players bee well set for championship with money to spend.

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:19 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:The clubs supposed to be inline to sign him are going for promotion so what if they buy him and dont go up? Left with a 31yr old and a reputed 40k a week wage bill! Sounds as if that's what we will be doing is that clever thing to do considering main complaint from fans is us buying players and putting them on huge wages? Sounds like a lose lose scenario for club



We have moved away from signing old players with no sell on value, I think we would be OK to loan him, but there is no way will sign him for the reputed £3mill, especially as all we are playing for is top half mid table or bottom half mid table.



Club might have gone away from such signings but fans haven't !! Loan even at high wage would be ok of it happens ... as said if Ipswich ect buy him and dont go up they're stuck with him such a waste of money as they would have bought him to help them to promotion they didn't achieve.



Yes but the fans are just fans, they can say what they like, the club won't pay a fee for an old player with no sell on value, so it's all pie in the sky. If Ipswich do they will end up like us one day with a load of old players worth feck all on big wages that they can't move on.

Our chickens have come home to roost!



Yes and ir will take several years of planning to get it right again... but will say other clubs got similar problems can only see relegated clubs from premier league doing OK as they've cottoned on how to make premier league money work... Luton looking at relegation but have been frugal with spending getting in several lower league players bee well set for championship with money to spend.


Agreed the promoted clubs have learned how to go up, spend carefully, and build ready to go up again at the first attempt when relegated, it's not a bad strategy. This year we will see it's hard for any Championship club to break into the top three!

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:22 pm

charlieduke wrote:I believe the Leeds interest thing is rubbish. They have £12m Joel Piroe sat on the bench there. Why would they buy another striker ?


Spot on I watched them last night, they've already got far better than more in their forward line.

One thing I would say, unless we can find a creative player spark EG Ramsey / Colwill or A.N. Other, we could have Harry Kane , Tosh ,Evans, Eanie, Alston all up front, they would all struggle.

.All dependent on tactics, style of play which ,for the past twelve weeks has been ultra cautious and defensive. if Bulut stays he has to change his mindset and quickly... :bluescarf:

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 3:31 pm

Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Bluebina wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:The clubs supposed to be inline to sign him are going for promotion so what if they buy him and dont go up? Left with a 31yr old and a reputed 40k a week wage bill! Sounds as if that's what we will be doing is that clever thing to do considering main complaint from fans is us buying players and putting them on huge wages? Sounds like a lose lose scenario for club



We have moved away from signing old players with no sell on value, I think we would be OK to loan him, but there is no way will sign him for the reputed £3mill, especially as all we are playing for is top half mid table or bottom half mid table.



Club might have gone away from such signings but fans haven't !! Loan even at high wage would be ok of it happens ... as said if Ipswich ect buy him and dont go up they're stuck with him such a waste of money as they would have bought him to help them to promotion they didn't achieve.



Yes but the fans are just fans, they can say what they like, the club won't pay a fee for an old player with no sell on value, so it's all pie in the sky. If Ipswich do they will end up like us one day with a load of old players worth feck all on big wages that they can't move on.

Our chickens have come home to roost!



Yes and ir will take several years of planning to get it right again... but will say other clubs got similar problems can only see relegated clubs from premier league doing OK as they've cottoned on how to make premier league money work... Luton looking at relegation but have been frugal with spending getting in several lower league players bee well set for championship with money to spend.


Agreed the promoted clubs have learned how to go up, spend carefully, and build ready to go up again at the first attempt when relegated, it's not a bad strategy. This year we will see it's hard for any Championship club to break into the top three!



Yes only 3 places left for top 6 can see it getting only one or two places In top 6 in future years... something needs to be done to balance up tje league

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:11 pm

Wiggy wrote:
charlieduke wrote:I believe the Leeds interest thing is rubbish. They have £12m Joel Piroe sat on the bench there. Why would they buy another striker ?


Spot on I watched them last night, they've already got far better than more in their forward line.

One thing I would say, unless we can find a creative player spark EG Ramsey / Colwill or A.N. Other, we could have Harry Kane , Tosh ,Evans, Eanie, Alston all up front, they would all struggle.

.All dependent on tactics, style of play which ,for the past twelve weeks has been ultra cautious and defensive. if Bulut stays he has to change his mindset and quickly... :bluescarf:



Agreed with Ramsey and O'Dowda and Bowler, top 6 or close even without a Stiker, without them 14th odd!

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:21 pm

I can’t blame the board for Moore, Bournemouth have full control of this.

However, we need to move onto other targets and not rely solely on Moore.

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 4:54 pm

Considering some of the knackered old pros we've signed the past (Fowler, Hasselbaink, Lambert to name three), Keiffer is NOT too old for a loan move to us.

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 5:25 pm

We could start building now and are we saying 3 million is to much for moore.
He would still be here next season an probably a few more so i don' t see it as a waste gary madine was a waste 5 million yes you could argue he might be cheaper in the summer but he could go elsewhere now missing the oppurtunity to use him next season

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 6:31 pm

Moore is a proven international goal scorer i think him along with ramsey
Would push this team along and as i say would be here for a few season's
I would like to know who the fans think is the right striker then for us and name them as they deem moore to exspensive who do you have in mind?

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:06 pm

On the bench again tonight!

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:14 pm

montyblue wrote:Moore is a proven international goal scorer i think him along with ramsey
Would push this team along and as i say would be here for a few season's
I would like to know who the fans think is the right striker then for us and name them as they deem moore to exspensive who do you have in mind?


Sam Gallagher is a good striker, always a nuisance when we've played against him. Birmingham are sniffing round him so he can't be that expensive. If he was available for say 1.5m on 25k a week I'd see that as better business than Moore.

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:20 pm

PEMBROKE ALLAN

Who is your go and get striker if you think moore is not worth it this transfer window?

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:24 pm

Maloby blue

Well done at least you have named a striker and a costing rather than just winging about the cost when its tans money about a proven goal scorer we could have here for a few season to help with the rebuild .

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:27 pm

Championship-level strikers lift the team, it must be so disheartening working hard to maneuver the ball to Etete or Meite only for them to lose it with their first touch (if they even got to it).

Sory Kaba transformed our team last year, it's the most expensive position for a reason, the game is decided by goals not possession or stepovers.

Can't see why Bournemouth would let him go though without a player already lined up and they are expensive at this time of year, hence why they'd jack the price up for Moore. We are not making a late playoff bid, we'd have to go on a crazy run to even get near the top 6 then either Leeds or Soton would be too strong

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:39 pm

Llan bluebird

I not exspecting us to push for promo "now" we are too far behind but building for next season securing players "now" getting a team ready to gel "now" for next season i thought thats what you call a rebuild and start "now" .

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:46 pm

Well he’s not playing tonight.
One thing we can all agree on is to get behind Bournemouth tonight. Bournemouth v Swansea Town is on S4C now. Brookes is the captain. :bluebird:

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:52 pm

1-0 :laughing5: :bluebird:

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 7:57 pm

2-0 bechod :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :bluebird:

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:25 pm

I don't believe Moore is worth wasting 3 million on, the most he's worth in my opinion is 1 to 1.5 million.

And for monty before he starts demanding to know who we should get instead, I have no idea as I don't know much about other players but that doesn't mean I can't have an opinion on Moore.

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Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:35 pm

Welshman in CA

No prop budd but thats it nobody comes up with an alternative moore i think is worth it because he would be here a few seasons and is proven scorer which is what we need now and next season

Re: Latest on Kieffer Moore:

Thu Jan 25, 2024 8:37 pm

montyblue wrote:PEMBROKE ALLAN

Who is your go and get striker if you think moore is not worth it this transfer window?



Did say that moore was worth it until end season but definitely not 3m and 35k+ a season. Summer window can get 2 decent players for that amount of wages