Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:32 pm
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:50 pm
Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:52 pm
M4 Exile wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?
Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).
Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:16 pm
Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:04 am
M4 Exile wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?
Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).
Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.
Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:09 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:Far right people intimidating journalists who are just doing their job
https://x.com/paulbranditv/status/18184 ... wtZ_9UxPRQ
Wed Jul 31, 2024 7:50 am
Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Far right people intimidating journalists who are just doing their job
https://x.com/paulbranditv/status/18184 ... wtZ_9UxPRQ
Sadly journalists don’t do their job, they constantly lie and miss report. As for far right, give it a rest. It’s a false dichotomy, Leftwing and Rightwing are completely redundant terms, thrown at anyone with a different view.
Instead of attempting to make political capital out of the situation spare a thought for those affected by this horrific act.
Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:02 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:These far right people turning up to a vigil for dead kids with a crate of cider and an England flag draped over the shoulders.
Abhorrent.
But never mind that, aren’t the media awful?
Wed Jul 31, 2024 8:06 am
M4 Exile wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?
Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).
Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.
Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:57 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?
They are far right people, that’s why.
If they are so appalled then why did they have smiles on their faces as they were protesting??
But, of course, the media are the real villains of this
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:47 am
Wed Jul 31, 2024 12:20 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Rumours circulating online about the Southport stabbings suspect sparked fierce riots by supporters of the English Defence League, police say.
But still some will blame the media
Wed Jul 31, 2024 2:14 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:Rumours circulating online about the Southport stabbings suspect sparked fierce riots by supporters of the English Defence League, police say.
But still some will blame the media
Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:47 pm
MikeO76 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Rumours circulating online about the Southport stabbings suspect sparked fierce riots by supporters of the English Defence League, police say.
But still some will blame the media
Do you believe everything you read online, social media etc?
Do you also believe everything the police say?
I'm not saying the English defence league had nothing to do with this but you seem blinkered, only want to see it one way.
Wed Jul 31, 2024 4:51 pm
Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Rumours circulating online about the Southport stabbings suspect sparked fierce riots by supporters of the English Defence League, police say.
But still some will blame the media
Do you think the police are honest
Wed Jul 31, 2024 5:33 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:MikeO76 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Rumours circulating online about the Southport stabbings suspect sparked fierce riots by supporters of the English Defence League, police say.
But still some will blame the media
Do you believe everything you read online, social media etc?
Do you also believe everything the police say?
I'm not saying the English defence league had nothing to do with this but you seem blinkered, only want to see it one way.
As do you.
Wed Jul 31, 2024 5:38 pm
MikeO76 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MikeO76 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Rumours circulating online about the Southport stabbings suspect sparked fierce riots by supporters of the English Defence League, police say.
But still some will blame the media
Do you believe everything you read online, social media etc?
Do you also believe everything the police say?
I'm not saying the English defence league had nothing to do with this but you seem blinkered, only want to see it one way.
As do you.
So you're admitting you are blinkered then!
Read my post again, I said the English defence league may be involved but I don't take what I read online as gospel.
Wed Jul 31, 2024 6:31 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:MikeO76 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:MikeO76 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Rumours circulating online about the Southport stabbings suspect sparked fierce riots by supporters of the English Defence League, police say.
But still some will blame the media
Do you believe everything you read online, social media etc?
Do you also believe everything the police say?
I'm not saying the English defence league had nothing to do with this but you seem blinkered, only want to see it one way.
As do you.
So you're admitting you are blinkered then!
Read my post again, I said the English defence league may be involved but I don't take what I read online as gospel.
Probably being a bit harsh actually.
I don’t take what I read online as gospel either. But what I am inclined to do, as I have stated, is believe the media and the police over some random people on social media.
I don’t subscribe to the view that the police are lying, the media are lying and the only truthful reports are coming from the far right.
Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:03 pm
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:09 pm
Wed Jul 31, 2024 11:11 pm
Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:55 am
Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:25 am
Jock wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:Far right people intimidating journalists who are just doing their job
https://x.com/paulbranditv/status/18184 ... wtZ_9UxPRQ
Sadly journalists don’t do their job, they constantly lie and miss report. As for far right, give it a rest. It’s a false dichotomy, Leftwing and Rightwing are completely redundant terms, thrown at anyone with a different view.
Instead of attempting to make political capital out of the situation spare a thought for those affected by this horrific act.
Thu Aug 01, 2024 11:33 am
frazier wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:frazier wrote:It's being reported by locals that what kicked it off tonight was an arab looking bloke carrying a machete near the childrens vigil. There's a video of him being arrested.
Any links mate?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/19300 ... ly_express
Thu Aug 01, 2024 10:22 pm
Bebbsyboy wrote:frazier wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:frazier wrote:It's being reported by locals that what kicked it off tonight was an arab looking bloke carrying a machete near the childrens vigil. There's a video of him being arrested.
Any links mate?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/19300 ... ly_express
A man has reportedly been arrested while carrying a flick knife just feet from a vigil being held to honour three children killed. Not a machete
Fri Aug 02, 2024 8:12 am
worcester_ccfc wrote:M4 Exile wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?
Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).
Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.
Spot on.
Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:28 pm
piledriver64 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:M4 Exile wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?
Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).
Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.
Spot on.
Yep, couldn’t agree more.
The EDL has no mandate and is a hate driven movement that needs taking down.
I have no issue with people being against others (even if I don’t agree) but the way to challenge is through the political process. They have Reform who have clearly shown they support the views of the EDL so just vote for them.
I seem to remember the WDL (Swansea based) tried to organise a march a few years ago and, if I’m not mistaken, a load of Cardiff fans chased them out of town. I’d like to think that will happen again.
What I am sure about is that next EDL have a march they will be met by opposition in numbers that will dwarf theirs !!
Fri Aug 02, 2024 12:31 pm
Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:19 pm
Jock wrote:piledriver64 wrote:worcester_ccfc wrote:M4 Exile wrote:Bluebird-in-Jackland wrote:The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?
Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).
Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.
Spot on.
Yep, couldn’t agree more.
The EDL has no mandate and is a hate driven movement that needs taking down.
I have no issue with people being against others (even if I don’t agree) but the way to challenge is through the political process. They have Reform who have clearly shown they support the views of the EDL so just vote for them.
I seem to remember the WDL (Swansea based) tried to organise a march a few years ago and, if I’m not mistaken, a load of Cardiff fans chased them out of town. I’d like to think that will happen again.
What I am sure about is that next EDL have a march they will be met by opposition in numbers that will dwarf theirs !!
When the EDL were formed there was Black guys White guys, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews at their first rally, there was even Gay Pride flags flown. Sadly they were overran with racists, which is a shame because, imo, their ideology was sound. Your theory that Enough is Enough protests will be dwarfed by pretend socialists will be tested this Saturday in Bristol and other British towns and cities. My money is on the football lads.
Fri Aug 02, 2024 2:24 pm
rumpo kid wrote:This political process isn't working tho'. Both main parties have pledged to reduce immigration and have done the opposite.