Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:23 pm
pembroke allan wrote:MillenniumNova wrote:It’s about time we keep the ball and pass it, don’t know why fans are complaining. Hated hoofball.
Good teams mix and match depending on how opposition play... must remember haven't got same players in squad so whilst we'll start at back the transition looks quicker.
Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:25 pm
Paul Keevil wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:The biggest problem with pissing about at the back for me besides mistakes causing goals is when there are minutes left & we need a goal.
I agree with this. Over the course of a season we could give away five goals through pissing around at the back. That is potentially the loss of 15 pts.
Its hard enough to reach 90 points for automatic (or 75 for play offs) without giving yourself a -15pts disadvantage
Another way of looking at it is, if other sides play from the back, and we decided not to, we could potentially have a 15pt advantage over others.
Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:28 pm
pembroke allan wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:The biggest problem with pissing about at the back for me besides mistakes causing goals is when there are minutes left & we need a goal.
I agree with this. Over the course of a season we could give away five goals through pissing around at the back. That is potentially the loss of 15 pts.
Its hard enough to reach 90 points for automatic (or 75 for play offs) without giving yourself a -15pts disadvantage
Another way of looking at it is, if other sides play from the back, and we decided not to, we could potentially have a 15pt advantage over others.
Paul don't you think every team in league will lose goals same as city will? Certainly from games I've seen teams do ... so we just need to keep mistakes to a minimum
Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:30 pm
Welshman in CA wrote:pembroke allan wrote:MillenniumNova wrote:It’s about time we keep the ball and pass it, don’t know why fans are complaining. Hated hoofball.
Good teams mix and match depending on how opposition play... must remember haven't got same players in squad so whilst we'll start at back the transition looks quicker.
That will be a welcome change but it also doesn't hurt to mix it up sometimes.
My complaint is faffing around at the back when we're losing with minutes or sometimes even seconds to go, which we did a lot last season, but as Alan says if the transition is a lot quicker then there's hope.
Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:00 pm
Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:07 pm
Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:32 pm
1950 wrote:With the recent transfers in, although only Willock had a decent amount of time today, I was hoping that City would play with a more attacking intent this season. I know it is only a friendly, but that was another turgid display despite the two well taken goals. Against a team in a lower division, I reckon the ball was in our half more than theirs, and when Horvath had the ball, it was like watching paint dry. This is obviously Bulut’s great plan, as ALL the City keepers are the same. For goodness sake, get the ball out of the half quicker, and I agree entirely with “ Welshman in CA” about messing about at the back - not only is it boring, it is extremely dangerous!
I was hopeful for a more enjoyable season with the influx of new players, but after the last three friendlies, I am beginning to doubt it. However, I hope you make me eat my words! Good luck to everyone for the season ahead.
Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:36 pm
1950 wrote:With the recent transfers in, although only Willock had a decent amount of time today, I was hoping that City would play with a more attacking intent this season. I know it is only a friendly, but that was another turgid display despite the two well taken goals. Against a team in a lower division, I reckon the ball was in our half more than theirs, and when Horvath had the ball, it was like watching paint dry. This is obviously Bulut’s great plan, as ALL the City keepers are the same. For goodness sake, get the ball out of the half quicker, and I agree entirely with “ Welshman in CA” about messing about at the back - not only is it boring, it is extremely dangerous!
I was hopeful for a more enjoyable season with the influx of new players, but after the last three friendlies, I am beginning to doubt it. However, I hope you make me eat my words! Good luck to everyone for the season ahead.
Sat Aug 03, 2024 5:00 pm
worcester_ccfc wrote:1950 wrote:With the recent transfers in, although only Willock had a decent amount of time today, I was hoping that City would play with a more attacking intent this season. I know it is only a friendly, but that was another turgid display despite the two well taken goals. Against a team in a lower division, I reckon the ball was in our half more than theirs, and when Horvath had the ball, it was like watching paint dry. This is obviously Bulut’s great plan, as ALL the City keepers are the same. For goodness sake, get the ball out of the half quicker, and I agree entirely with “ Welshman in CA” about messing about at the back - not only is it boring, it is extremely dangerous!
I was hopeful for a more enjoyable season with the influx of new players, but after the last three friendlies, I am beginning to doubt it. However, I hope you make me eat my words! Good luck to everyone for the season ahead.
Couldn’t disagree more. Was quite clear that today was a lot more attacking than we were last season.
It was a decent performance in a pre season game a week before the season starts.
Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:20 pm
Sun Aug 04, 2024 11:23 am
Paul Keevil wrote:pembroke allan wrote:Paul Keevil wrote:Welshman in CA wrote:The biggest problem with pissing about at the back for me besides mistakes causing goals is when there are minutes left & we need a goal.
I agree with this. Over the course of a season we could give away five goals through pissing around at the back. That is potentially the loss of 15 pts.
Its hard enough to reach 90 points for automatic (or 75 for play offs) without giving yourself a -15pts disadvantage
Another way of looking at it is, if other sides play from the back, and we decided not to, we could potentially have a 15pt advantage over others.
Paul don't you think every team in league will lose goals same as city will? Certainly from games I've seen teams do ... so we just need to keep mistakes to a minimum
Yes definately. I think minimise the risk at the back
Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:10 pm
Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:25 pm
Barryblues wrote:We are not good enough to play from the back end of. So predictable keeper to Goutas back to keeper or full back then 9 times out of 10 panic stations. We hardly ever beat the press, I think once or twice yesterday it came off. Why not bang it up to the striker we got two pacey wingers to flick onto now. I can see Sunderland scoring at least one from a defensive error Saturday.
Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:29 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Barryblues wrote:We are not good enough to play from the back end of. So predictable keeper to Goutas back to keeper or full back then 9 times out of 10 panic stations. We hardly ever beat the press, I think once or twice yesterday it came off. Why not bang it up to the striker we got two pacey wingers to flick onto now. I can see Sunderland scoring at least one from a defensive error Saturday.
I saw Goutas, NG, Ralls, Siopis, O'Dowda among others receive and pass. Only once do I recall us being caught out and that was from a poor hoof ball from NG that led to their forward being offside.
Sun Aug 04, 2024 4:42 pm
bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Barryblues wrote:We are not good enough to play from the back end of. So predictable keeper to Goutas back to keeper or full back then 9 times out of 10 panic stations. We hardly ever beat the press, I think once or twice yesterday it came off. Why not bang it up to the striker we got two pacey wingers to flick onto now. I can see Sunderland scoring at least one from a defensive error Saturday.
I saw Goutas, NG, Ralls, Siopis, O'Dowda among others receive and pass. Only once do I recall us being caught out and that was from a poor hoof ball from NG that led to their forward being offside.
Sun Aug 04, 2024 7:57 pm
Barryblues wrote:bluebirdoct1962 wrote:Barryblues wrote:We are not good enough to play from the back end of. So predictable keeper to Goutas back to keeper or full back then 9 times out of 10 panic stations. We hardly ever beat the press, I think once or twice yesterday it came off. Why not bang it up to the striker we got two pacey wingers to flick onto now. I can see Sunderland scoring at least one from a defensive error Saturday.
I saw Goutas, NG, Ralls, Siopis, O'Dowda among others receive and pass. Only once do I recall us being caught out and that was from a poor hoof ball from NG that led to their forward being offside.
Yes like I say mostly Goutas, full backs and keeper. Glad you mentioned Siopsis we almost conceded when he received ball on the edge of box lost it and keeper needed to save a one on one. It just doesn't work and the risk outweighs the reward imo.