Where has the ( we must be patient ) gone ?

I was one of those to ask for more patience but I think the patience has run out because Bulut doesn’t seem to have changed a thing.

Same old slow build up, one up top, how long until he sees this isn’t working?

How can you say that he hasn't changed a thing, when we were all over them first half?

Balls being played in behind with Kanga getting onto them, Meite getting in behind also and hitting the post...

Some people on this forum need to ho to specsavers if they really believe that nothing has changed.

We went in 2-0 down at half time with Burnley still coasting in second gear. The style hasn’t changed and you can cling onto that first half all you want. Let’s see what happens when Swansea roll us over next weekend.

The style has changed. How can you not see it?

You can cling on to your beliefs as much as you want to also, but even a blind person can tell that we are trying to play a different style of football.

Did it work? No.
Am I happy with the result? No.

But I'm realistic and honest. The football is different

I was one of those to ask for more patience but I think the patience has run out because Bulut doesn’t seem to have changed a thing.

Same old slow build up, one up top, how long until he sees this isn’t working?

How can you say that he hasn't changed a thing, when we were all over them first half?

Balls being played in behind with Kanga getting onto them, Meite getting in behind also and hitting the post...

Some people on this forum need to ho to specsavers if they really believe that nothing has changed.

We went in 2-0 down at half time with Burnley still coasting in second gear. The style hasn’t changed and you can cling onto that first half all you want. Let’s see what happens when Swansea roll us over next weekend.

The style has changed. How can you not see it?

You can cling on to your beliefs as much as you want to also, but even a blind person can tell that we are trying to play a different style of football.

Did it work? No.
Am I happy with the result? No.

But I'm realistic and honest. The football is different

Some people wont see anything because don't want to...... People make out burnley didn't get out of 1st gear ? Well city didn't allow them to play their game until we were chasing game .....why because city changed way they're playing the stats tell you that we attacked far more than we did last season against the best team in league! Bad result but games change on incidents like hovarth howler which he won't do again in his career....upto that goal not one person can say we wasnt by far the better team ... goals change games never was it truer yesterday.... Bulut has change way we play unfortunately the result masks it... as for next week we win people will do a disappearing act on here

I won’t - we let in 5 numerous times and then we must act like the manager and say let’s forget. A win against the Jacks won’t change my opinion.

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I was one of those to ask for more patience but I think the patience has run out because Bulut doesn’t seem to have changed a thing.

Same old slow build up, one up top, how long until he sees this isn’t working?

How can you say that he hasn't changed a thing, when we were all over them first half?

Balls being played in behind with Kanga getting onto them, Meite getting in behind also and hitting the post...

Some people on this forum need to ho to specsavers if they really believe that nothing has changed.

We went in 2-0 down at half time with Burnley still coasting in second gear. The style hasn’t changed and you can cling onto that first half all you want. Let’s see what happens when Swansea roll us over next weekend.

The style has changed. How can you not see it?

You can cling on to your beliefs as much as you want to also, but even a blind person can tell that we are trying to play a different style of football.

Did it work? No.
Am I happy with the result? No.

But I'm realistic and honest. The football is different

Some people wont see anything because don't want to...... People make out burnley didn't get out of 1st gear ? Well city didn't allow them to play their game until we were chasing game .....why because city changed way they're playing the stats tell you that we attacked far more than we did last season against the best team in league! Bad result but games change on incidents like hovarth howler which he won't do again in his career....upto that goal not one person can say we wasnt by far the better team ... goals change games never was it truer yesterday.... Bulut has change way we play unfortunately the result masks it... as for next week we win people will do a disappearing act on here

Great Post Allan and fully agree.

I was one of those to ask for more patience but I think the patience has run out because Bulut doesn’t seem to have changed a thing.

Same old slow build up, one up top, how long until he sees this isn’t working?

How can you say that he hasn't changed a thing, when we were all over them first half?

Balls being played in behind with Kanga getting onto them, Meite getting in behind also and hitting the post...

Some people on this forum need to ho to specsavers if they really believe that nothing has changed.

We went in 2-0 down at half time with Burnley still coasting in second gear. The style hasn’t changed and you can cling onto that first half all you want. Let’s see what happens when Swansea roll us over next weekend.

The style has changed. How can you not see it?

You can cling on to your beliefs as much as you want to also, but even a blind person can tell that we are trying to play a different style of football.

Did it work? No.
Am I happy with the result? No.

But I'm realistic and honest. The football is different

Some people wont see anything because don't want to...... People make out burnley didn't get out of 1st gear ? Well city didn't allow them to play their game until we were chasing game .....why because city changed way they're playing the stats tell you that we attacked far more than we did last season against the best team in league! Bad result but games change on incidents like hovarth howler which he won't do again in his career....upto that goal not one person can say we wasnt by far the better team ... goals change games never was it truer yesterday.... Bulut has change way we play unfortunately the result masks it... as for next week we win people will do a disappearing act on here

Great Post Allan and fully agree.

You simply can't take a result by scoreline otherwise theres no perspective on the performance.... how many sides lose or win a game but don't deserve to do so we've seen it a lot at CCS? Will say we are not very robust once go goal down and that's something needs to be addressed...... the team is in such a tisswas regarding the level of fitness of players coming in its going to be a little while before it settles down ...as they say probably get worse before gets better but it's a long season so ott reaction can wait a bit longer.

Well, looking at that league table with us adrift at the bottom already and the 2 upcoming games, it's pretty depressing.

Like others have stated, I thought Bullit would change style from last season and fair play seems to have got quality players in.

Being at the bottom once momentum sets in is a lonely place to be.

Wonder if Steve Cooper would be interested ? return home ?

I said last year that they weren t I'm pressed with him in turkey too one dimensional but was ridiculed by Sven
I still haven't changed my view, he us out of his depth

You word it as suits your agenda, fella; but ‘ridicule’ is a strong word and Erol Bulut will rise or fall with HIS squad choices for THIS season rather than the overall very good job he did LAST season with someone else’s squad…

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

Well said; but sadly too many are result driven and cannot/will not see anything beyond…

Sunderland won 4 - 0 today and Burnley 4 - 1 away last weekend, so that’s two very hard games to start with; and a tough game against the Neanderthals down west next weekend…

I believe our ‘team’ will develop nicely over the next month or so and we will start to climb up the table…

Sorry if that’s too positive for some; but ‘support’ is what I bring to the table…

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

He's been in charge for 14 months and most of us Bulut out mob have been very patient. The negative football hasn't improved overall and I believe Bulut doesn't know how to play any other way. We collapsed yesterday as we usually do when we go a goal behind and most of the players looked like they are p155ed off with these tactics.

As for the scoreline, that's what counts, you don't get points for having the highest possession percentage.

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

Well said; but sadly too many are result driven and cannot/will not see anything beyond…

Sunderland won 4 - 0 today and Burnley 4 - 1 away last weekend, so that’s two very hard games to start with; and a tough game against the Neanderthals down west next weekend…

I believe our ‘team’ will develop nicely over the next month or so and we will start to climb up the table…

Sorry if that’s too positive for some; but ‘support’ is what I bring to the table…

How can you say people don't see beyond the score when most on here have been complaining about the negative tactics for months. Bulut is the problem and the sooner you and the other few remaining Bulut lovers open your eyes hopefully the sooner he'll be gone.

I really did hope things would be better this season but it's the same shit football.

I too will bring support but I believe the best and only way forward is without Bulut.

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

Well said; but sadly too many are result driven and cannot/will not see anything beyond…

Sunderland won 4 - 0 today and Burnley 4 - 1 away last weekend, so that’s two very hard games to start with; and a tough game against the Neanderthals down west next weekend…

I believe our ‘team’ will develop nicely over the next month or so and we will start to climb up the table…

Sorry if that’s too positive for some; but ‘support’ is what I bring to the table…

Chris before that goal everyone well nearly everyone was saying how well we were playing ....burnley looked ordinary not that they didn't get out 1st gear we didn't allow them to.... yet same people going back and saying bulut tactics are slow boring ect ect they were far from it yesterday until halftime... yes got s problem keeping clean sheets but as you say in time team will come good unfortunately only some can see that rest don't want to see it .. likely it Will get worse before gets better ..

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

Well said; but sadly too many are result driven and cannot/will not see anything beyond…

Sunderland won 4 - 0 today and Burnley 4 - 1 away last weekend, so that’s two very hard games to start with; and a tough game against the Neanderthals down west next weekend…

I believe our ‘team’ will develop nicely over the next month or so and we will start to climb up the table…

Sorry if that’s too positive for some; but ‘support’ is what I bring to the table…

Chris before that goal everyone well nearly everyone was saying how well we were playing ....burnley looked ordinary not that they didn't get out 1st gear we didn't allow them to.... yet same people going back and saying bulut tactics are slow boring ect ect they were far from it yesterday until halftime... yes got s problem keeping clean sheets but as you say in time team will come good unfortunately only some can see that rest don't want to see it .. likely it Will get worse before gets better ..

You have summed it perfectly in your post mate.
We have fallen so low in our expectations that it’s treated like a victory we played ok for 30 mins against a team that beat us 5-0.

That’s the difference I guess people have different opions on what they want to see for the teams. You happy with a good 30 mins irrelevant of the result to the other extreme of people wanting to win 5 nil.
It’s a crazy game that certainly polarises people.

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

Well said; but sadly too many are result driven and cannot/will not see anything beyond…

Sunderland won 4 - 0 today and Burnley 4 - 1 away last weekend, so that’s two very hard games to start with; and a tough game against the Neanderthals down west next weekend…

I believe our ‘team’ will develop nicely over the next month or so and we will start to climb up the table…

Sorry if that’s too positive for some; but ‘support’ is what I bring to the table…

Chris before that goal everyone well nearly everyone was saying how well we were playing ....burnley looked ordinary not that they didn't get out 1st gear we didn't allow them to.... yet same people going back and saying bulut tactics are slow boring ect ect they were far from it yesterday until halftime... yes got s problem keeping clean sheets but as you say in time team will come good unfortunately only some can see that rest don't want to see it .. likely it Will get worse before gets better ..

You have summed it perfectly in your post mate.
We have fallen so low in our expectations that it’s treated like a victory we played ok for 30 mins against a team that beat us 5-0.

That’s the difference I guess people have different opions on what they want to see for the teams. You happy with a good 30 mins irrelevant of the result to the other extreme of people wanting to win 5 nil.
It’s a crazy game that certainly polarises people.

Unfortunately you just pick out bit you like to boost your point ... nowhere did I say was happy just made point there was a change in tactics 1st half which there ..you take look at home game at end season look at this game away to best team in league and see the differences in tactics .... I look at more things than the scoreline whilst result is all that matters theres more to football than that for some...

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

Well said; but sadly too many are result driven and cannot/will not see anything beyond…

Sunderland won 4 - 0 today and Burnley 4 - 1 away last weekend, so that’s two very hard games to start with; and a tough game against the Neanderthals down west next weekend…

I believe our ‘team’ will develop nicely over the next month or so and we will start to climb up the table…

Sorry if that’s too positive for some; but ‘support’ is what I bring to the table…

Chris before that goal everyone well nearly everyone was saying how well we were playing ....burnley looked ordinary not that they didn't get out 1st gear we didn't allow them to.... yet same people going back and saying bulut tactics are slow boring ect ect they were far from it yesterday until halftime... yes got s problem keeping clean sheets but as you say in time team will come good unfortunately only some can see that rest don't want to see it .. likely it Will get worse before gets better ..

You have summed it perfectly in your post mate.
We have fallen so low in our expectations that it’s treated like a victory we played ok for 30 mins against a team that beat us 5-0.

That’s the difference I guess people have different opions on what they want to see for the teams. You happy with a good 30 mins irrelevant of the result to the other extreme of people wanting to win 5 nil.
It’s a crazy game that certainly polarises people.

Unfortunately you just pick out bit you like to boost your point ... nowhere did I say was happy just made point there was a change in tactics 1st half which there ..you take look at home game at end season look at this game away to best team in league and see the differences in tactics .... I look at more things than the scoreline whilst result is all that matters theres more to football than that for some...

And you’re not picking out bits that boost your point. What a whopper of a post.

You do realise that’s the point of forums don’t you to get your view across.
I even agreed we good for 30 mins I just want more. You just want 30 good minutes.
Chill out it’s all good.

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

Well said; but sadly too many are result driven and cannot/will not see anything beyond…

Sunderland won 4 - 0 today and Burnley 4 - 1 away last weekend, so that’s two very hard games to start with; and a tough game against the Neanderthals down west next weekend…

I believe our ‘team’ will develop nicely over the next month or so and we will start to climb up the table…

Sorry if that’s too positive for some; but ‘support’ is what I bring to the table…

Chris before that goal everyone well nearly everyone was saying how well we were playing ....burnley looked ordinary not that they didn't get out 1st gear we didn't allow them to.... yet same people going back and saying bulut tactics are slow boring ect ect they were far from it yesterday until halftime... yes got s problem keeping clean sheets but as you say in time team will come good unfortunately only some can see that rest don't want to see it .. likely it Will get worse before gets better ..

You have summed it perfectly in your post mate.
We have fallen so low in our expectations that it’s treated like a victory we played ok for 30 mins against a team that beat us 5-0.

That’s the difference I guess people have different opions on what they want to see for the teams. You happy with a good 30 mins irrelevant of the result to the other extreme of people wanting to win 5 nil.
It’s a crazy game that certainly polarises people.

Unfortunately you just pick out bit you like to boost your point ... nowhere did I say was happy just made point there was a change in tactics 1st half which there ..you take look at home game at end season look at this game away to best team in league and see the differences in tactics .... I look at more things than the scoreline whilst result is all that matters theres more to football than that for some...

And you’re not picking out bits that boost your point. What a whopper of a post.

You do realise that’s the point of forums don’t you to get your view across.
I even agreed we good for 30 mins I just want more. You just want 30 good minutes.
Chill out it’s all good.

This just boils down too that you want everything straight away .
But it’s not going to work like tha , we haven’t even played our few new players yet , wtf is peoples panick

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

Well said; but sadly too many are result driven and cannot/will not see anything beyond…

Sunderland won 4 - 0 today and Burnley 4 - 1 away last weekend, so that’s two very hard games to start with; and a tough game against the Neanderthals down west next weekend…

I believe our ‘team’ will develop nicely over the next month or so and we will start to climb up the table…

Sorry if that’s too positive for some; but ‘support’ is what I bring to the table…

Chris before that goal everyone well nearly everyone was saying how well we were playing ....burnley looked ordinary not that they didn't get out 1st gear we didn't allow them to.... yet same people going back and saying bulut tactics are slow boring ect ect they were far from it yesterday until halftime... yes got s problem keeping clean sheets but as you say in time team will come good unfortunately only some can see that rest don't want to see it .. likely it Will get worse before gets better ..

You have summed it perfectly in your post mate.
We have fallen so low in our expectations that it’s treated like a victory we played ok for 30 mins against a team that beat us 5-0.

That’s the difference I guess people have different opions on what they want to see for the teams. You happy with a good 30 mins irrelevant of the result to the other extreme of people wanting to win 5 nil.
It’s a crazy game that certainly polarises people.

Unfortunately you just pick out bit you like to boost your point ... nowhere did I say was happy just made point there was a change in tactics 1st half which there ..you take look at home game at end season look at this game away to best team in league and see the differences in tactics .... I look at more things than the scoreline whilst result is all that matters theres more to football than that for some...

And you’re not picking out bits that boost your point. What a whopper of a post.

You do realise that’s the point of forums don’t you to get your view across.
I even agreed we good for 30 mins I just want more. You just want 30 good minutes.
Chill out it’s all good.

Again where have I said i want good 30 mins or happy ? Twice you've said it so it's an irrelevant point because didn't say it....Said had a good 1st half not same as being happy..... .. but you know what bugs me is people think the 1st goal was irrelevant to the result wonder why?

This is the problem with todays society , people expect to have things their way right now , we all knew it’s going to take time , but no not all these bulut haters who just can’t wait to criticise.
How can’t people see the difference in play this season? They’re just going by scoreline which is not the bigger picture

Well said; but sadly too many are result driven and cannot/will not see anything beyond…

Sunderland won 4 - 0 today and Burnley 4 - 1 away last weekend, so that’s two very hard games to start with; and a tough game against the Neanderthals down west next weekend…

I believe our ‘team’ will develop nicely over the next month or so and we will start to climb up the table…

Sorry if that’s too positive for some; but ‘support’ is what I bring to the table…

Chris before that goal everyone well nearly everyone was saying how well we were playing ....burnley looked ordinary not that they didn't get out 1st gear we didn't allow them to.... yet same people going back and saying bulut tactics are slow boring ect ect they were far from it yesterday until halftime... yes got s problem keeping clean sheets but as you say in time team will come good unfortunately only some can see that rest don't want to see it .. likely it Will get worse before gets better ..

You have summed it perfectly in your post mate.
We have fallen so low in our expectations that it’s treated like a victory we played ok for 30 mins against a team that beat us 5-0.

That’s the difference I guess people have different opions on what they want to see for the teams. You happy with a good 30 mins irrelevant of the result to the other extreme of people wanting to win 5 nil.
It’s a crazy game that certainly polarises people.

Unfortunately you just pick out bit you like to boost your point ... nowhere did I say was happy just made point there was a change in tactics 1st half which there ..you take look at home game at end season look at this game away to best team in league and see the differences in tactics .... I look at more things than the scoreline whilst result is all that matters theres more to football than that for some...

And you’re not picking out bits that boost your point. What a whopper of a post.

You do realise that’s the point of forums don’t you to get your view across.
I even agreed we good for 30 mins I just want more. You just want 30 good minutes.
Chill out it’s all good.

Again where have I said i want good 30 mins or happy ? Twice you've said it so it's an irrelevant point because didn't say it....Said had a good 1st half not same as being happy..... .. but you know what bugs me is people think the 1st goal was irrelevant to the result wonder why?

It was irrelevant because there was another 4.
Are you blaming this defeat solely on the keeper?