Huw Edwards

While I completely agree with the sentiment that it is a ridiculously light sentence. I think he should have had an active custodial sentence. However it is not uncommon. I know of a surgeon in Cornwall who was caught in a sting trying to get what he thought were young girls watching him on his phone camera. I wont go to more detail. He had a suspended sentence too. I think in light of the recent media storm of some people having custodial sentences for social medial infringements. To be clear I do not in anyway condone inciting violence, which is what they were sentences for. But to imprison someone for that but not imprison someone that sought out and paid for images of some of the most disgusting child abuse images. Well for me, it sends a bad message out. To get those images, children were horrifically abused. People like him feed the abuse.

The outraged brigade are wanting the attorney General to look at upping the sentence because m25 protesters
got longer terms....and because his is to lenient they say..... but as been pointed out it is not out of the ordinary

The outraged brigade are wanting the attorney General to look at upping the sentence because m25 protesters
got longer terms....and because his is to lenient they say..... but as been pointed out it is not out of the ordinary

Just because it’s not out of the ordinary doesn’t make it right

The outraged brigade are wanting the attorney General to look at upping the sentence because m25 protesters
got longer terms....and because his is to lenient they say..... but as been pointed out it is not out of the ordinary

Just because it’s not out of the ordinary doesn’t make it right

Thank f**k someone said it.. not common to go to prison for mean words but it happens in today's climate.. don't care how minor a nonce you are your still a nonce and should be in prison.. and as for the mental health bullshite it hasn't affected his work for 30 odd years but all of a sudden affects his ability to know right from wrong.. jog on.. and shame on anyone who justifies it!

If your actions are the result of or result in, an innocent child or any non consenting adult being abused. You should have a custodial sentence imho.

The only parallel with the m25 and social media convictions is that he should have been in prison too and for longer. If there are concerns over his mental health then give care while Incarcerated. Plenty of people are in prison with mental health issues. It’s not a reason to keep them out.

He may not see it this way. But he has helped abuse children. It is abhorrent and wholly unacceptable crime.

If your actions are the result of or result in, an innocent child or any non consenting adult being abused. You should have a custodial sentence imho.

The only parallel with the m25 and social media convictions is that he should have been in prison too and for longer. If there are concerns over his mental health then give care while Incarcerated. Plenty of people are in prison with mental health issues. It’s not a reason to keep them out.

He may not see it this way. But he has helped abuse children. It is abhorrent and wholly unacceptable crime.

Think people need to read what expert lawyers say about the sentence? All of them say given the whole situation regarding Edwards pleading guilty straight away what was in messages his mental health e t ect long list of things to be taken into consideration when sentencing and they all agree the sentence was correct... we may have a different opinion about paedophiles but that's just emotional reaction not a legal one....
Don't forget other person involved also got suspended sentence nothing been said about that.

If your actions are the result of or result in, an innocent child or any non consenting adult being abused. You should have a custodial sentence imho.

The only parallel with the m25 and social media convictions is that he should have been in prison too and for longer. If there are concerns over his mental health then give care while Incarcerated. Plenty of people are in prison with mental health issues. It’s not a reason to keep them out.

He may not see it this way. But he has helped abuse children. It is abhorrent and wholly unacceptable crime.

Think people need to read what expert lawyers say about the sentence? All of them say given the whole situation regarding Edwards pleading guilty straight away what was in messages his mental health e t ect long list of things to be taken into consideration when sentencing and they all agree the sentence was correct... we may have a different opinion about paedophiles but that's just emotional reaction not a legal one....
Don't forget other person involved also got suspended sentence nothing been said about that.

No one cares about their opinion.. what would their opinion be if it was their child.. as I said few months ago these expert lawyers would of been saying you can't go to prison for a facebook post but a few months later you can so justify it all you want but the ordinary people who don't believe in minor attracted person disorder know exactly where he and the others involved should be.. and it's not sat at home on their sofas.

If your actions are the result of or result in, an innocent child or any non consenting adult being abused. You should have a custodial sentence imho.

The only parallel with the m25 and social media convictions is that he should have been in prison too and for longer. If there are concerns over his mental health then give care while Incarcerated. Plenty of people are in prison with mental health issues. It’s not a reason to keep them out.

He may not see it this way. But he has helped abuse children. It is abhorrent and wholly unacceptable crime.

Think people need to read what expert lawyers say about the sentence? All of them say given the whole situation regarding Edwards pleading guilty straight away what was in messages his mental health e t ect long list of things to be taken into consideration when sentencing and they all agree the sentence was correct... we may have a different opinion about paedophiles but that's just emotional reaction not a legal one....
Don't forget other person involved also got suspended sentence nothing been said about that.

No one cares about their opinion.. what would their opinion be if it was their child.. as I said few months ago these expert lawyers would of been saying you can't go to prison for a facebook post but a few months later you can so justify it all you want but the ordinary people who don't believe in minor attracted person disorder know exactly where he and the others involved should be.. and it's not sat at home on their sofas.

There opinion is based on the law not on people's distain for paedophiles .... Edwards was sentenced in accordance with the law not on mob law as you want it to be..... we may not agree with it but days of wild west lynch mobs are gone .... well lynching as gone but trial by social media means you are guilty until proved innocent .... even then if people dont like the verdict it's racist or a whitewash or cover up whatever you like to call it ....

Allan I do appreciate what you say regarding the opinions of the lawyers and they may have informed opinions regarding law. But laws and interpretations of laws can and do change.

My view, call it emotional, call it ill informed, but it is still my view. In a world where Richard Williams gets 3 months prison for being an idiot and a tw*t (yes I know I am being a bit flippant to say the least). Well a man who sought out and paid for images of child rape should have a custodial sentence. The mitigation he presented could reduce that sentence but it should not remove it IMHO.

I have a close family member who works in child protection. They have dealt with people accused of similar crimes and worse. They destroy children, lives, families. Maybe Huw didn’t physically take them. But the act of paying for them helps create and perpetuate this abhorrent demand. An effective slap on the wrist sends the wrong message. Yes he has lost his career. But let’s be honest. He was EXTREMELY well paid probably with many investments and savings. He was probably consider retirement in the near future anyway. Furthermore someone’s wealth or status should have no bearing on their punishment.

So regardless of it being correct in the eyes of the law. Doesn’t make morally correct to me. In which case I think the law should change. Will it? Probably not because he’s not the only person to get a suspended sentence for similar as already established. Still doesn’t make the law right.

Allan I do appreciate what you say regarding the opinions of the lawyers and they may have informed opinions regarding law. But laws and interpretations of laws can and do change.

My view, call it emotional, call it ill informed, but it is still my view. In a world where Richard Williams gets 3 months prison for being an idiot and a tw*t (yes I know I am being a bit flippant to say the least). Well a man who sought out and paid for images of child rape should have a custodial sentence. The mitigation he presented could reduce that sentence but it should not remove it IMHO.

I have a close family member who works in child protection. They have dealt with people accused of similar crimes and worse. They destroy children, lives, families. Maybe Huw didn’t physically take them. But the act of paying for them helps create and perpetuate this abhorrent demand. An effective slap on the wrist sends the wrong message. Yes he has lost his career. But let’s be honest. He was EXTREMELY well paid probably with many investments and savings. He was probably consider retirement in the near future anyway. Furthermore someone’s wealth or status should have no bearing on their punishment.

So regardless of it being correct in the eyes of the law. Doesn’t make morally correct to me. In which case I think the law should change. Will it? Probably not because he’s not the only person to get a suspended sentence for similar as already established. Still doesn’t make the law right.

Your right about the morality aspect and it's difficult to see why he's not in jail but as you say not first to be dealt as leniently... and importantly his wealth status did not effect the sentencing which basically is the crux of why people are not happy and tbh there will always be unhappy people when it comes to crime punishment... even when found not guilty as we've seen with footballers they are still guilty according to people....we may not like edwards sentence but as a so called democracy the judiciary is only one we have good or bad.

If your actions are the result of or result in, an innocent child or any non consenting adult being abused. You should have a custodial sentence imho.

The only parallel with the m25 and social media convictions is that he should have been in prison too and for longer. If there are concerns over his mental health then give care while Incarcerated. Plenty of people are in prison with mental health issues. It’s not a reason to keep them out.

He may not see it this way. But he has helped abuse children. It is abhorrent and wholly unacceptable crime.

Think people need to read what expert lawyers say about the sentence? All of them say given the whole situation regarding Edwards pleading guilty straight away what was in messages his mental health e t ect long list of things to be taken into consideration when sentencing and they all agree the sentence was correct... we may have a different opinion about paedophiles but that's just emotional reaction not a legal one....
Don't forget other person involved also got suspended sentence nothing been said about that.

No one cares about their opinion.. what would their opinion be if it was their child.. as I said few months ago these expert lawyers would of been saying you can't go to prison for a facebook post but a few months later you can so justify it all you want but the ordinary people who don't believe in minor attracted person disorder know exactly where he and the others involved should be.. and it's not sat at home on their sofas.

There opinion is based on the law not on people's distain for paedophiles .... Edwards was sentenced in accordance with the law not on mob law as you want it to be..... we may not agree with it but days of wild west lynch mobs are gone .... well lynching as gone but trial by social media means you are guilty until proved innocent .... even then if people dont like the verdict it's racist or a whitewash or cover up whatever you like to call it ....

And this is why respect for the law is at an all time low.. historically every nonce should been sent to prison.. in the future every nonce should be sent to prison.. I know if I was a judge and a pedophile was in front of me and the max I could legally give them was a year then you can rest assured that's what they'd be getting.. he didn't stumble across child abuse pictures while looking at other things he literally paid for it..

I do think the sentence is light - but that is a problem with the system and reforms are needed.

The problem is many in our political establishment (ALL PARTIES) have blocked reforms and are part of the problem.

As some examples...(and I do not support any of the main parties):

We need to mention that under the Tories they not only blocked nearly every piece of judiciary reform but also underfunded the judiciary so that by the time they were kicked out in July it was taking up to FIVE years to get child abuse offenders to court.

For balance - Keir Starmer was a part of the team, while he was at the CPS, that developed sentencing guidelines - which the courts are using to make their sentencing judgements.

What about the current or former 54 MPS (mostly Tories) under investigation for sex crimes (some against children).

While we are at it we should also mention the 20+ members of the EDL / Tommy Robinson's inner circle who have convicted of child sexual exploitation offences (20 up until 2022 - now it is more). And Robinsons interference with the grooming gang case which nearly thrown out due to his amateurish and media baiting actions (as an aside.. speak to me about The Community Alliance Against Sexual Exploitation - and how TR has attacked organisations behind it).

What about Farage taking money from the Tates, who are awaiting trial for many crimes of trafficking and sexual abuse of minors.

While this may put everyone's nose out of joint because many on here will supporters of Labour, the Tories or Reform etc... the point I am making is that the level of hypocrisy by our political leaders and their lack of taking sex abuse of children seriously is why the rest of us have zero respect or trust in our political parties.

I AM NOT a Labour supporter and I dislike Starmer - but I can tell you that some of the conversations the organisations I work with have had with some of the other cabinet members about these issues (child trafficking and abuse), have been much more positive than under the Tories... but let's see. I am happy to have private chats with anyone particularly interested in the subject.

Last edited by AfricanBluebird on Wed Sep 18, 2024 6:39 am, edited 1 time in total.

If your actions are the result of or result in, an innocent child or any non consenting adult being abused. You should have a custodial sentence imho.

The only parallel with the m25 and social media convictions is that he should have been in prison too and for longer. If there are concerns over his mental health then give care while Incarcerated. Plenty of people are in prison with mental health issues. It’s not a reason to keep them out.

He may not see it this way. But he has helped abuse children. It is abhorrent and wholly unacceptable crime.

Think people need to read what expert lawyers say about the sentence? All of them say given the whole situation regarding Edwards pleading guilty straight away what was in messages his mental health e t ect long list of things to be taken into consideration when sentencing and they all agree the sentence was correct... we may have a different opinion about paedophiles but that's just emotional reaction not a legal one....
Don't forget other person involved also got suspended sentence nothing been said about that.

No one cares about their opinion.. what would their opinion be if it was their child.. as I said few months ago these expert lawyers would of been saying you can't go to prison for a facebook post but a few months later you can so justify it all you want but the ordinary people who don't believe in minor attracted person disorder know exactly where he and the others involved should be.. and it's not sat at home on their sofas.

There opinion is based on the law not on people's distain for paedophiles .... Edwards was sentenced in accordance with the law not on mob law as you want it to be..... we may not agree with it but days of wild west lynch mobs are gone .... well lynching as gone but trial by social media means you are guilty until proved innocent .... even then if people dont like the verdict it's racist or a whitewash or cover up whatever you like to call it ....

And this is why respect for the law is at an all time low.. historically every nonce should been sent to prison.. in the future every nonce should be sent to prison.. I know if I was a judge and a pedophile was in front of me and the max I could legally give them was a year then you can rest assured that's what they'd be getting.. he didn't stumble across child abuse pictures while looking at other things he literally paid for it..

You're right of course... a paedophile doesn't stop being a paedophile because they have been caught.

If your actions are the result of or result in, an innocent child or any non consenting adult being abused. You should have a custodial sentence imho.

The only parallel with the m25 and social media convictions is that he should have been in prison too and for longer. If there are concerns over his mental health then give care while Incarcerated. Plenty of people are in prison with mental health issues. It’s not a reason to keep them out.

He may not see it this way. But he has helped abuse children. It is abhorrent and wholly unacceptable crime.

Think people need to read what expert lawyers say about the sentence? All of them say given the whole situation regarding Edwards pleading guilty straight away what was in messages his mental health e t ect long list of things to be taken into consideration when sentencing and they all agree the sentence was correct... we may have a different opinion about paedophiles but that's just emotional reaction not a legal one....
Don't forget other person involved also got suspended sentence nothing been said about that.

No one cares about their opinion.. what would their opinion be if it was their child.. as I said few months ago these expert lawyers would of been saying you can't go to prison for a facebook post but a few months later you can so justify it all you want but the ordinary people who don't believe in minor attracted person disorder know exactly where he and the others involved should be.. and it's not sat at home on their sofas.

There opinion is based on the law not on people's distain for paedophiles .... Edwards was sentenced in accordance with the law not on mob law as you want it to be..... we may not agree with it but days of wild west lynch mobs are gone .... well lynching as gone but trial by social media means you are guilty until proved innocent .... even then if people dont like the verdict it's racist or a whitewash or cover up whatever you like to call it ....

And this is why respect for the law is at an all time low.. historically every nonce should been sent to prison.. in the future every nonce should be sent to prison.. I know if I was a judge and a pedophile was in front of me and the max I could legally give them was a year then you can rest assured that's what they'd be getting.. he didn't stumble across child abuse pictures while looking at other things he literally paid for it..

Agree prison is a must for such offences but as I put people want the sentence increased as its to lenient? Going on what's happened before 1yr or 5yrs won't be enough for organisations or individuals who like to be heared..... anyway don't expect sentence to be changed for reasons stated previously.....

ALL PAEDOPHILES SHOULD BE CASTRATED & SENT TO PRISON / COMPULSORY

Spot on Annis, what he's done is disgusting.

Should be in prison but gets away with practically nothing. Disgusted.

I have severe mental health issues too but there's no defence for his actions.

Maybe if you have severe mental health issues you shouldn’t be a mod on here,just a thought.

Not sure of the correlation there. Strange comment to make.

Thanks for your honesty Worcester, reach out should you need support.

.

Thanks mate, agree it's a strange reply. You've bravely posted about your own issues in the past.

Just a bit bemused about that response.

Could come back to it by listing all the issues I've had and all the institutions I've been in but really not worth my time

Maybe he meant it as a joke. Meaning that being on this forum drives you crazy. If so, it should have come with an explanation though

I hear he's looking for a club ?

The sentence will not be reviewed! So that's end of the case.

ALL PAEDOPHILES SHOULD BE CASTRATED & SENT TO PRISON / COMPULSORY

Spot on Annis, what he's done is disgusting.

Should be in prison but gets away with practically nothing. Disgusted.

I have severe mental health issues too but there's no defence for his actions.

Maybe if you have severe mental health issues you shouldn’t be a mod on here,just a thought.

Not sure of the correlation there. Strange comment to make.

Thanks for your honesty Worcester, reach out should you need support.

.

Thanks mate, agree it's a strange reply. You've bravely posted about your own issues in the past.

Just a bit bemused about that response.

Could come back to it by listing all the issues I've had and all the institutions I've been in but really not worth my time

Maybe he meant it as a joke. Meaning that being on this forum drives you crazy. If so, it should have come with an explanation though

You may well be right and if that's the case then I hope they clarify that. But otherwise, it's an offensive and awful comment to make.

For the record I said what I did because as someone who has severe mental health issues, it is no defence for Edwards' actions.

Would also like to thank everyone for their supportive comments, much appreciated.

The sentence will not be reviewed! So that's end of the case.

CPS had no objection to the sentence which I'm surprised by unfortunately.

The sentence will not be reviewed! So that's end of the case.

CPS had no objection to the sentence which I'm surprised by unfortunately.

Ned it's just another case of sentence doesn't fit crime .... but he's got what the law says the judge can give him at the level of court he was sentenced.... if was in crown court could have got more but the case didn't have to go there so left with unhappy people politicians ect..... undoubtedly that will change as politicians want the law changed .... just because its Edwards they want it changed where were they previously when other lenient sentences were given?

The sentence will not be reviewed! So that's end of the case.

CPS had no objection to the sentence which I'm surprised by unfortunately.

Ned it's just another case of sentence doesn't fit crime .... but he's got what the law says the judge can give him at the level of court he was sentenced.... if was in crown court could have got more but the case didn't have to go there so left with unhappy people politicians ect..... undoubtedly that will change as politicians want the law changed .... just because its Edwards they want it changed where were they previously when other lenient sentences were given?

Speaking personally, its not because its Edwards I want it changed.. I think anyone convicted of his actions should serve some time in prison. That goes for my old university “friend” that also got a suspended sentence. I think it sends the wrong message and helps feed the abuse if they all think they will get away with effective wrist slaps if caught.

The sentence will not be reviewed! So that's end of the case.

CPS had no objection to the sentence which I'm surprised by unfortunately.

Ned it's just another case of sentence doesn't fit crime .... but he's got what the law says the judge can give him at the level of court he was sentenced.... if was in crown court could have got more but the case didn't have to go there so left with unhappy people politicians ect..... undoubtedly that will change as politicians want the law changed .... just because its Edwards they want it changed where were they previously when other lenient sentences were given?

Speaking personally, its not because its Edwards I want it changed.. I think anyone convicted of his actions should serve some time in prison. That goes for my old university “friend” that also got a suspended sentence. I think it sends the wrong message and helps feed the abuse if they all think they will get away with effective wrist slaps if caught.

Whilst the sentencing criteria may be wrong what I find bad is interference from charities politicians to the judicial process.... parole board make a decision its jumped on by uncle John cobble and all ? Someone gets released after their sentence same people object you serve your sentence that's it ..... look at jesica ennis mouthing off about Evans he was cleared of offence he's innocent but according to her he's guilty! It's not perfect but justice system is what we have and innocent until proven guilty as now been taken over so its guilty until innocent due to trial by social media..