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Re: O/T US Election

Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:11 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
stentona wrote:The Donald will win but will be denied the Whitehouse as in 2020 by the skullduggery of cheating barstewards.
Harris will be assassinated by someone in a red MAGA baseball cap and there will be a clampdown on many freedoms. America will crumble ... crikey this is getting dark!

Back to the football. I predict a 2-1 win for the :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


How was he denied by the Whitehouse in 2020 when he was the one in the Whitehouse? I've never understood this line of thinking at all. Just like the "it's rigged if he loses but not if he wins", none of it makes any sense at all.

I don't think he will win, too many Republicans have deserted their own side but other than that I hope you're right & the Bluebirds win 2-1.


Agree with that.

If he wins, he's won fair and square. If he loses, it's obviously been stolen from him. It's madness that he's made his supporters actually believe that.

But I do believe he will win. Polls have it neck and neck but the polls have a habit of underestimating the Trump support.

Re: O/T US Election

Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:27 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
stentona wrote:The Donald will win but will be denied the Whitehouse as in 2020 by the skullduggery of cheating barstewards.
Harris will be assassinated by someone in a red MAGA baseball cap and there will be a clampdown on many freedoms. America will crumble ... crikey this is getting dark!

Back to the football. I predict a 2-1 win for the :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


How was he denied by the Whitehouse in 2020 when he was the one in the Whitehouse? I've never understood this line of thinking at all. Just like the "it's rigged if he loses but not if he wins", none of it makes any sense at all.

I don't think he will win, too many Republicans have deserted their own side but other than that I hope you're right & the Bluebirds win 2-1.


Agree with that.

If he wins, he's won fair and square. If he loses, it's obviously been stolen from him. It's madness that he's made his supporters actually believe that.

But I do believe he will win. Polls have it neck and neck but the polls have a habit of underestimating the Trump support.


I believe the real issue is the media's clear bias toward the Democrats. If election coverage were balanced, Trump would likely win by a significant margin. The fact that he remains so competitive, despite overwhelmingly negative media coverage, speaks volumes. While I don’t think there’s actual cheating in the vote counting, it's hard to say this is a fair fight when one side controls so much of the narrative.

Re: O/T US Election

Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:31 pm

Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
stentona wrote:The Donald will win but will be denied the Whitehouse as in 2020 by the skullduggery of cheating barstewards.
Harris will be assassinated by someone in a red MAGA baseball cap and there will be a clampdown on many freedoms. America will crumble ... crikey this is getting dark!

Back to the football. I predict a 2-1 win for the :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


How was he denied by the Whitehouse in 2020 when he was the one in the Whitehouse? I've never understood this line of thinking at all. Just like the "it's rigged if he loses but not if he wins", none of it makes any sense at all.

I don't think he will win, too many Republicans have deserted their own side but other than that I hope you're right & the Bluebirds win 2-1.


Agree with that.

If he wins, he's won fair and square. If he loses, it's obviously been stolen from him. It's madness that he's made his supporters actually believe that.

But I do believe he will win. Polls have it neck and neck but the polls have a habit of underestimating the Trump support.


I believe the real issue is the media's clear bias toward the Democrats. If election coverage were balanced, Trump would likely win by a significant margin. The fact that he remains so competitive, despite overwhelmingly negative media coverage, speaks volumes. While I don’t think there’s actual cheating in the vote counting, it's hard to say this is a fair fight when one side controls so much of the narrative.


Is that not balanced out by Elon Musk sorting out the Twitter algorithm in Trump's favour though? I was scrolling through it today and thought I was on Truth Social for a minute.

Does make me laugh when people say the media are biased. Over here with the BBC, you see the Tories say they're left wing and Labour say they're right wing - suggests they're getting it about right (obviously that's just a UK thing).

Re: O/T US Election

Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:31 pm

Wasn't there a degree òf fraud last time in the Biden vote? Evidence of voter I.D. with dead people used.
I'd never vote Kamala Harris
Out of these choices, i'd pick Trump although he talks rubbish at times and i couldn't disagree more with him on environmental issues. Unfortunately America is run by the jewish banking system. JFK opposed this system, he also opposed Israel getting nuclear weapons. He got assassinated

Re: O/T US Election

Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:52 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
stentona wrote:The Donald will win but will be denied the Whitehouse as in 2020 by the skullduggery of cheating barstewards.
Harris will be assassinated by someone in a red MAGA baseball cap and there will be a clampdown on many freedoms. America will crumble ... crikey this is getting dark!

Back to the football. I predict a 2-1 win for the :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


How was he denied by the Whitehouse in 2020 when he was the one in the Whitehouse? I've never understood this line of thinking at all. Just like the "it's rigged if he loses but not if he wins", none of it makes any sense at all.

I don't think he will win, too many Republicans have deserted their own side but other than that I hope you're right & the Bluebirds win 2-1.


Agree with that.

If he wins, he's won fair and square. If he loses, it's obviously been stolen from him. It's madness that he's made his supporters actually believe that.

But I do believe he will win. Polls have it neck and neck but the polls have a habit of underestimating the Trump support.


I believe the real issue is the media's clear bias toward the Democrats. If election coverage were balanced, Trump would likely win by a significant margin. The fact that he remains so competitive, despite overwhelmingly negative media coverage, speaks volumes. While I don’t think there’s actual cheating in the vote counting, it's hard to say this is a fair fight when one side controls so much of the narrative.


Is that not balanced out by Elon Musk sorting out the Twitter algorithm in Trump's favour though? I was scrolling through it today and thought I was on Truth Social for a minute.

Does make me laugh when people say the media are biased. Over here with the BBC, you see the Tories say they're left wing and Labour say they're right wing - suggests they're getting it about right (obviously that's just a UK thing).


I see where you're coming from, but it doesn’t quite work like that. Major news channels, as you mentioned, often have a bias against Trump, and they control the content they broadcast. Twitter, on the other hand, is an open platform where almost anyone can share their views—including these major news channels, which have Twitter accounts and regularly share their perspectives there. However, unlike Twitter, these channels don’t allow opposing viewpoints to be directly broadcast on their platforms.

Re: O/T US Election

Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:10 pm

A joke of a country thought our club was a circus but the USA beats us hands down .
Leader of the free world what a joke .China must be rubbing there hands together watching all this garbage.Who ever wins the other one is gonna file so many law suits and the media in both our countries are full of propaganda BS .
Trump will win for me if the Hoff entered he'd probably win it's a joke America is

Re: O/T US Election

Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:36 pm

Cardiff_CPT wrote:Wasn't there a degree òf fraud last time in the Biden vote? Evidence of voter I.D. with dead people used.
I'd never vote Kamala Harris
Out of these choices, i'd pick Trump although he talks rubbish at times and i couldn't disagree more with him on environmental issues. Unfortunately America is run by the jewish banking system. JFK opposed this system, he also opposed Israel getting nuclear weapons. He got assassinated



Not sure fraud was tied to Biden but trump didn't like the result or the counting? As for assassination as we've seen Israel are more than capable of such acts and as you point out they had reason to do it?....usa is a tinpot country full of self righteous people and groups and the two candidates are not going make it any better..

Re: O/T US Election

Tue Nov 05, 2024 11:42 pm

Already a dramatic start as Georgia has had to extend it's voting time by 45 minutes due to delays to people voting caused by non-credible bomb threats.

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:04 am

There's already been issues in Georgia, Detroit, Milwaukee, Pennsylvania and New Jersey.

Technical glitches, machine malfunctions, bomb threats, gas leaks and water valve bursts only seem to happen in the key swing states...

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:15 am

Tonteg Bluebird wrote:There's already been issues in Georgia, Detroit, Milwaukee, Pennsylvania and New Jersey.

Technical glitches, machine malfunctions, bomb threats, gas leaks and water valve bursts only seem to happen in the key swing states...



It's all a rouge so that whoever loses as a reason to call faul on the result.... usa politics is a joke of an institution brought with money intimidation or dirty tricks ....

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:27 am

Very early days but the signs so far are more encouraging for Trump than Harris.

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:40 am

worcester_ccfc wrote:Very early days but the signs so far are more encouraging for Trump than Harris.


It was like this last time against Biden, the nation went to bed with Trump in the lead, thousands of votes for biden appeared through the night.
Allen, I don't know if it was fraud but it seemed a bit fishy atleast

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:54 am

Cardiff_CPT wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Very early days but the signs so far are more encouraging for Trump than Harris.


It was like this last time against Biden, the nation went to bed with Trump in the lead, thousands of votes for biden appeared through the night.
Allen, I don't know if it was fraud but it seemed a bit fishy atleast


That's because less than 20% of votes had been in at some of those states at the time. Trump may have been on 70% but there were still over 80% to be in.

But tonight there are signs in some states that she is doing worse than Biden did four years ago.

I said this afternoon that I thought Trump would win comfortably and I stick by that going by the results so far.

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:29 am

Cardiff_CPT wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Very early days but the signs so far are more encouraging for Trump than Harris.


It was like this last time against Biden, the nation went to bed with Trump in the lead, thousands of votes for biden appeared through the night.
Allen, I don't know if it was fraud but it seemed a bit fishy atleast



Trump already saying there's cheating in some states? Perhaps he knows he's lost them and doing what he did last time basically he doesn't like losing as we've seen..... usa politics is a sesspit of dodgy goings on they're even allow musk to pay for people to persuade them vote for a certain way .... crackers and bent judiciary that allows it

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:31 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Cardiff_CPT wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:Very early days but the signs so far are more encouraging for Trump than Harris.


It was like this last time against Biden, the nation went to bed with Trump in the lead, thousands of votes for biden appeared through the night.
Allen, I don't know if it was fraud but it seemed a bit fishy atleast



Trump already saying there's cheating in some states? Perhaps he knows he's lost them and doing what he did last time basically he doesn't like losing as we've seen..... usa politics is a sesspit of dodgy goings on they're even allow musk to pay for people to persuade them vote for a certain way .... crackers and bent judiciary that allows it


He was probably saying that just in case the votes didn't go his way, which doesn't look like the case.

It is getting increasingly tight for Harris if she wants to win this and if I'm being honest, I'm now 95% sure Trump will win.

Looks set to get Georgia which is key for him and doing pretty well in Pennsylvania, albeit with half the vote still to come.

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:15 am

It's not official yet but....

I'm calling this as a Trump win now at just after 4am UK time.

There is still a path to victory for Kamala Harris but that path is now extremely unlikely.

She is several points down on Biden's 2020 numbers in many states and behind in states she needs to win, looking very unlikely she'll turn around that deficit. She has even lost women voters that Biden had.

Trump on the other hand is doing very well with Latino people and young black men - looks like that vote will prove to be the key for him.


So I am now saying that Donald Trump has won and is heading back to the White House - as I initially predicted, I still believe his win will be by quite some distance.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:44 am

Will he complain that it’s been rigged this time?

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:46 am

Excellent, the BBC and Sly News are devastated. As are the false lefties in the UK. MAGA.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:15 am

Well Done Trump.

The cock presenter on BBC news referee to him Tramp and didn’t even apologise.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 9:47 am

The Democrats have only themselves to blame. To keep Biden as President and refuse to accept his failing health whilst the country looked on with incredulity was negligent in the extreme.

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:02 am

Welshman in CA wrote:
stentona wrote:The Donald will win but will be denied the Whitehouse as in 2020 by the skullduggery of cheating barstewards.
Harris will be assassinated by someone in a red MAGA baseball cap and there will be a clampdown on many freedoms. America will crumble ... crikey this is getting dark!

Back to the football. I predict a 2-1 win for the :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


How was he denied by the Whitehouse in 2020 when he was the one in the Whitehouse? I've never understood this line of thinking at all. Just like the "it's rigged if he loses but not if he wins", none of it makes any sense at all.

I don't think he will win, too many Republicans have deserted their own side but other than that I hope you're right & the Bluebirds win 2-1.

It’s a crazy situation and with him now seemingly uncatchable, I genuinely worry what the next four years will bring…!

Time will tell, but this is going to be one heck of a roller coaster; and the people of America have taken a narrow view of the effects this will have across the world…

Re: O/T US Election

Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:07 am

Sven wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
stentona wrote:The Donald will win but will be denied the Whitehouse as in 2020 by the skullduggery of cheating barstewards.
Harris will be assassinated by someone in a red MAGA baseball cap and there will be a clampdown on many freedoms. America will crumble ... crikey this is getting dark!

Back to the football. I predict a 2-1 win for the :bluebird: :bluebird: :bluebird:


How was he denied by the Whitehouse in 2020 when he was the one in the Whitehouse? I've never understood this line of thinking at all. Just like the "it's rigged if he loses but not if he wins", none of it makes any sense at all.

I don't think he will win, too many Republicans have deserted their own side but other than that I hope you're right & the Bluebirds win 2-1.

It’s a crazy situation and with him now seemingly uncatchable, I genuinely worry what the next four years will bring…!

Time will tell, but this is going to be one heck of a roller coaster; and the people of America have taken a narrow view of the effects this will have across the world…


I wouldn’t worry about it mate. Will make little difference to the average uk citizen.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:09 am

Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:14 am

David llamey our so called foriegn secetary has sime humble pie to eat and so he should perhaps he should learn to think before he gets on his high horse and opens that big mouth of his and been very personal with his insults ,
and also remember half of america or more voted for trump.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:23 am

pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:31 am

I was not too sure which way this was going but now it looks like a big win for Trump.

All remaining swing states to be counted have Trump in a clear and comfortable lead. Only some smaller states up North can Harris expect some votes. Overall this is going to be a huge win for Trump.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:41 am

Thing is i do think Trump wants to make America great again but at what cost? Can you trust everything he will do? Also will he give a f**k about anyone outside America?

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:04 am

Logie wrote:Thing is i do think Trump wants to make America great again but at what cost? Can you trust everything he will do? Also will he give a f**k about anyone outside America?



I suppose that's what the majority of Americans want, America first.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:14 am

Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 11:54 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

What’s your opinion of the Biden Crime Family, do you think Hunter got his position on the board of a Ukrainian oil company on merit.