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Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:02 pm

most of the boys that work for me voted BNP at last council elections, and i know my mother did as well :D

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:04 pm

This election will be the hardest for me to decide, I've always voted Labour, but feel the country needs a change.

The problem I have is that I can't bring myself to vote tory, and don't believe that Labour have it in them to sort this country out.

So where do I go? PR anyone? :o

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:24 pm

anything but bnp or tory or plaid


so that means either labour or liberal


at this point in time liberal

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:36 pm

f**k the tories and the BNP - just a bunch of fascist bastards.
I'll be voting fore the socialist labour party.

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:46 pm

I would vote for the socialist labour party if scargill wasnt involved

he was a great speaker , but he was as much a people wrecker as thatcher

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:50 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
Nottage Blue wrote:I think the other parties are making it easy for the BNP to exist and this is why people are actually voting for them. If the government weren't scared to tackle the immigration problem and the Tories gave us a strong policy on it for if/when they get in power, then the BNP would struggle to exist. As it stands, they are manipulating people's fears in the areas that ethnic minorities are at their strongest and are becoming more influential and powerful. Places such as Burnley, Bradford, etc


The BNP will get stronger and stronger, thanks to Labour letting our country be over run with immigrants who havent come to work here but just to take from us, sounds like PR .
My Grandfather came over here 100 years ago from Egypt and worked till the day he died without claiming a penny from Our Country.


my father came here in 1957 from the Yeman! Worked his balls off in the steel works till retirement!! He blind in on eye and 80% blind in the other! Hes diabetic and has to inject insulin! He lives by the rules of this country and himself my mother and all 4 offspring have worked all our lives and not claimed a penny from the state! f**k BNP!!! Come to barnsley and see how many english are doing naff all to work!!!!!! :twisted:

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:58 pm

sam salim wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
Nottage Blue wrote:I think the other parties are making it easy for the BNP to exist and this is why people are actually voting for them. If the government weren't scared to tackle the immigration problem and the Tories gave us a strong policy on it for if/when they get in power, then the BNP would struggle to exist. As it stands, they are manipulating people's fears in the areas that ethnic minorities are at their strongest and are becoming more influential and powerful. Places such as Burnley, Bradford, etc


The BNP will get stronger and stronger, thanks to Labour letting our country be over run with immigrants who havent come to work here but just to take from us, sounds like PR .
My Grandfather came over here 100 years ago from Egypt and worked till the day he died without claiming a penny from Our Country.


my father came here in 1957 from the Yeman! Worked his balls off in the steel works till retirement!! He blind in on eye and 80% blind in the other! Hes diabetic and has to inject insulin! He lives by the rules of this country and himself my mother and all 4 offspring have worked all our lives and not claimed a penny from the state! f**k BNP!!! Come to barnsley and see how many english are doing naff all to work!!!!!! :twisted:



well said

dont be fooled by the bnp

they might try and suck up to the working class welsh and scottish but their hardcore support in england hate the welsh and dont believe anything else

I think everyone knows that immigration has to be dealt with ....and thats whay the bnp got 1 million people to vote for them

so..the point has been made and its up to the major parties to take the issue seriously

but dont be fooled by this lot , they are run by nazis in suits

and if they ever got in power the country would go down the pan far faster than people think its is now

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:00 pm

TheMortgageAdvisor wrote:This election will be the hardest for me to decide, I've always voted Labour, but feel the country needs a change.

The problem I have is that I can't bring myself to vote tory, and don't believe that Labour have it in them to sort this country out.

So where do I go? PR anyone? :o



Liberal ?

they have some good policies

they were firmly against the war in iraq, something this country got wrong big time, in my opinion

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:01 pm

Nottage Blue wrote:There are some British people who don't want to work who welcome foreigners who want to work, illegally or not, as they can then blame their work shyness on the foreigners who have nicked their jobs. If those foreigners gave up those jobs, thise same British people still wouldn't work though.


Thats a very good point, I do think whatever goverment get in they should get tougher on imagration though but i dont think BNP are the rite way to go...

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:05 pm

I never said the BNP were any good, As I believe they COULDNT run the country any better than PR running Cardiff City. What I said is Thanks to labour they have got stronger.

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:15 pm

i will be voting ukip again, the country should decide it's own policies and laws not be dictated by europe, and we should decide who we leave in or goes out of the country, the eu costs this country billions every year the only country's that benefit are the poorer ones who get hand outs, the eu is also un-democratic we were promised a referendum on the lisbon treaty by gordon brown but we didn't get one , so we now have a eu president that nobody in europe voted for most people including myself don't even now his name.
vote ukip

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:16 pm

I'd rather be a Jack than vote BNP.

If you're considering voting for them you need educating and if that doesn't change your mind seek psychiatric counselling.

There really has to be something seriously wrong with you to vote for them.

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:17 pm

Forever Blue wrote:I never said the BNP were any good, As I believe they COULDNT run the country any better than PR running Cardiff City. What I said is Thanks to labour they have got stronger.



My daughter could run cardiff better than PR and shes only 6!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 6:19 pm

sam salim wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:I never said the BNP were any good, As I believe they COULDNT run the country any better than PR running Cardiff City. What I said is Thanks to labour they have got stronger.



My daughter could run cardiff better than PR and shes only 6!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :ayatollah:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah: :ayatollah:

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:10 pm

Tory time for a change. This Gov had no idea how to deal with the credit crunch.

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:31 pm

Its a bit like the Monty Python sketch: What have the Labour party ever done for us ?

The working class are their own worst enemy, give them money and they forget where they come from !

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:52 pm

Blazing Saddles wrote:
Ben wrote:
Nottage Blue wrote:I think the other parties are making it easy for the BNP to exist and this is why people are actually voting for them. If the government weren't scared to tackle the immigration problem and the Tories gave us a strong policy on it for if/when they get in power, then the BNP would struggle to exist. As it stands, they are manipulating people's fears in the areas that ethnic minorities are at their strongest and are becoming more influential and powerful. Places such as Burnley, Bradford, etc


exactly! people are starting to get fed up! briish people aren't being treated fair, we are the foreigners in our own country!


Welsh not British...........



welsh and British surely ;)

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:57 pm

A cross in the blue box for me

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 8:11 pm

GUFF wrote:Got me started again ! Will vote Labour ,the thought of another Tory Government would really put us back .First to admit that this Labour Government has forgot about the people it represents .At the same time there has been many positives since we have had a Labour Government .Compared to the rest of Europe we still offer freedom of speech , a proper multi-cultural society ,a great health service -(nurses need more pay )...Have no doubt that being led by a bunch of Eton toffs with no such agenda to govern would really destroy even more working class areas.More money for the health service ,state education ,armed forces ,affordable housing ,whilst giving many people hope not a belief in hatred or to blame others for their problems .More Labour MP's should be like Tony Benn rather than just lining their pockets without a thought for actions .Whatever anyone 's views on the current conflicts ,we should fully support our armed forces much more .


The above is typical of the left, complete contradiction in one paragraph, Guff did one of the socialist from MM's board write this for you?

"Tony Benn" real name Sir Anthony Wedgewood-Benn, a c**t of the highest order, Freedom of speech? You can't say boo to a fuckin goose anymore otherwise some tw*t will be on your back calling you a birdist. A great health service, it is shot to pieces, it is knackered beyond repair due to our socialist government. Education has been dummed down so low that most "established" university's require people to take additional tests in maths, physics, sciences to ensure they can cope with the courses. These twats have sent our forces into war zones without basic equipment. I could go on but it would be boring, very, very boring. This government, a socialist government in all its glory have completely and utterly fucked this country, not migrant workers, the islamics, christians, jedi warriors, the french, the jews or even maggie thatcher but the left.

I'm voting for Claire

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:18 pm

Willy the Wombat wrote:
GUFF wrote:Got me started again ! Will vote Labour ,the thought of another Tory Government would really put us back .First to admit that this Labour Government has forgot about the people it represents .At the same time there has been many positives since we have had a Labour Government .Compared to the rest of Europe we still offer freedom of speech , a proper multi-cultural society ,a great health service -(nurses need more pay )...Have no doubt that being led by a bunch of Eton toffs with no such agenda to govern would really destroy even more working class areas.More money for the health service ,state education ,armed forces ,affordable housing ,whilst giving many people hope not a belief in hatred or to blame others for their problems .More Labour MP's should be like Tony Benn rather than just lining their pockets without a thought for actions .Whatever anyone 's views on the current conflicts ,we should fully support our armed forces much more .


The above is typical of the left, complete contradiction in one paragraph, Guff did one of the socialist from MM's board write this for you?

"Tony Benn" real name Sir Anthony Wedgewood-Benn, a c**t of the highest order, Freedom of speech? You can't say boo to a fuckin goose anymore otherwise some tw*t will be on your back calling you a birdist. A great health service, it is shot to pieces, it is knackered beyond repair due to our socialist government. Education has been dummed down so low that most "established" university's require people to take additional tests in maths, physics, sciences to ensure they can cope with the courses. These twats have sent our forces into war zones without basic equipment. I could go on but it would be boring, very, very boring. This government, a socialist government in all its glory have completely and utterly fucked this country, not migrant workers, the islamics, christians, jedi warriors, the french, the jews or even maggie thatcher but the left.

I'm voting for Claire



claire short ?

I agree, a woman of principle

the health service is in a far better state than it was under the conservatives

one reason why if cameron does get in, he wont be making any drastic changes

its nowhere near a socialist government

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:35 pm

im voting for no one :!:
they all promise the earth and deliver f**k all :!: :!:
they all talk complete bollox :!:
none of them can answer a question honestly :!: :!:
and they rip you off :!:

hang on....ive just described the cardiff city board :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 10:58 pm

I'm voting Ridsdale Out at the shareholders meeting. :lol:

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:07 pm

Willy the wombat totally agree with you muk,labour have fucked this country up just like the tories did before them,this country is one hell of a mess,thats why im off out of here and sorting jobs abroad with work for when i emmigrate.

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:25 pm

I hate this Labour government. They have sold out to the Labour party I use to respect when I was back living in Wales.

Although at the time they were too socialist to survive, this being early 1980s, I still had faith in a central Labour party. These idiots in charge have crossed over that line, stolen Tory policies and have sold out.

Even so I likeed my Labour MP here in Derby because he represented what I believed to be the Labour party it should be. However because of his masters I would vote for the party that would dethrone him from his seat in the nest election. Sadly the guy passed away at Christmas so there is going to be a by-election soon. So I will vote for whoever has the best chance of dethroning his replacement.

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Fri Feb 05, 2010 1:07 am

Vote socialist. :ayatollah:

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Fri Feb 05, 2010 7:16 am

Ben wrote:hay we all have a opinion and i can do/vote for who the hell i like, do you see me commenting on who your voting for?

Just a shame most people dont say what they really think, i couldn't give a feck! :lol:


Shall I tell you what I think of you?

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Fri Feb 05, 2010 9:51 am

Forever Blue wrote:
Nottage Blue wrote:I always vote Tory but the last election I went Plaid because I'm fed up of all the corruption and arrogance amongst the MPs. I may do that again or vote tory, but, basically, they are all lying scumbags out for themselves and everything they can get so i'm unsure at the moment


Anything is better than Labour theyve done A PR on us.

I will be Voting Tory, I know it annoys people but at least I am honest.

Also anyone who will put a halt to immigration I would also Vote for, at least I am Honest.



Halting immigration is a complicated one because we need it it certain aspects of the economy. For instance Wales and England do not produced enough doctors (not anywhere near!) to satisfy the needs of the NHS etc. Same with nurses. So until we can start training enough doctors and nurses we will need to bring them in from elsewhere. In the 50's and 60's if it had not been for the Asian doctors we would not have had a health service in the valleys.

As we are in the EU so cannot stop people moving to the UK from these countries in masses... wrongly in my opionion although some people from other parts of Europe have an excellent work ethic compared to many UK nationals. I have a Greek guy working for me and he is brilliant.

For non-EU immigration I think we need to stem the flow from Pakistan and places like that as there is absolutely no reason for them to still be arriving here unless they are needed for key positions. Immigration into the UK from Africa is absolutely tiny.. literally handful and most are asylum seekers which are a different kettle of fish. Working with many asylum seekers I totally understand and accept they need to leave their own countries I just think that collectively the EU member states should be sharing responsibilities and not letting the responsibility fall on the UK due to an inadequate government, control and policy.

For illegal immigrants it's really been a failing of the government to not control and eject people who are illegal here. Shame on them.

But you reap what you sow. In Uganda during the 2nd World War, when Uganda was a coloney, we took the Acholi people and made them fight for Britian - they were excellent at jungle and desert warfare. 1000's died fighting for Britian and we have given them very little (in fact we have made their lives worse) in return. They are still proud of being involved in the 2nd world war and helping Britian but basically feel shafted.. which I totally understand.

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:09 am

the bnp may say nice things on their election leaflets but if they ever got in they would be kicking everyone out

even people who have com eover here and worked their arses off

the example of indian doctors in the valleys in the fities being a prime example

put simply, if these people hadnt come to work then many people in that area would have gone without local doctors

its not long ago that thousands of brits would move abroad to work in the building trade in germany and holland and belgium

what the parties of today have to sort out is illegal immigration , not polish people coming here for 6 months to work then going back home, thats the way europe works nowadays

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:38 am

BNP and my family and close friends are. not out of racism,out of my beliefs,i want my children growing up as british being the majority,if these migrants keep coming and milking our system and breed at the rate they do,british born and raised will become the minority.therefore our country will be even worse than it is now.lets get a proper points system in place like in OZ. BRITISH JOBS FOR BRITISH PEOPLE in my opinion

Re: WHO ARE YOU VOTING FOR

Fri Feb 05, 2010 10:39 am

Sludge wrote:the bnp may say nice things on their election leaflets but if they ever got in they would be kicking everyone out

even people who have com eover here and worked their arses off

the example of indian doctors in the valleys in the fities being a prime example

put simply, if these people hadnt come to work then many people in that area would have gone without local doctors

its not long ago that thousands of brits would move abroad to work in the building trade in germany and holland and belgium

what the parties of today have to sort out is illegal immigration , not polish people coming here for 6 months to work then going back home, thats the way europe works nowadays


Totally agree.

The net effect of legal immigration is positive in economic and financial in terms. It's when people start adding illegal immigration into the mix and tars everyone with the same brush that confuses them. They are two seperate issues but the BNP want to keep them all in the same 'pot' as it helps prey on peoples frustrations and fears.

To be a legitimate immigrant from anywhere other than the EU is tough... you have to take tests that cost money and waiver your right to most benefits, something the BNP does not like to publicise as it doesn't fit in with their 'all immigtants are scroungers' ethos.