the offical euro 2012 draw thread....

Wales best chance to get through, well to the play offs anyway, england won this group already

here are the possable dates :

03, 04, 07/09/2010 EURO qualifying matches

08, 09, 12/10/2010 EURO qualifying matches

25, 26, 29/03/2011 EURO qualifying matches

03, 04, 07/06/2011 EURO qualifying matches

02, 03, 06/09/2011 EURO qualifying matches

07, 08, 11/10/2011 EURO qualifying matches

11, 12/11/2011 EURO qualifying play-offs
15/11/2011 EURO qualifying play-offs

I will do my best to get to england, switzerland, and bulgaria

England! - Thats just nice.

I'm not sure what to make of this group. Switzerland will not be pushovers, they're in the world cup and they've got several talented players in Senderos, Stephane Grichting, Johann Vonlanthen, Tranquillo Barnetta, Gokhan Inler, Valon Behrami, Alex Frei and Erin Derdiyok. Oh, and the fact that they're coached by Ottmar Hitzfeld doesn't help our cause!

Bulgaria will be a totally different prospect to when we beat them in a friendly a while back. They didn't have Berbatov that day, and of course they've got Martin and Stilian Petrov and Valeri Bojinov. Probably the one team who really lack the squad strength as much as us.

I can't help but think Montenegro aren't all that good. Looking at the players they've got, they're not that fantastic but they they dismantled us easily in the friendly last year. I just think that the likes of Ramsey, Ledley, Bellamy etc will enjoy playing against their defence who don't look all that and have recently conceded 4 against Bulgaria and Romania in competitive games.

And we all know about England, but all we have to do is draw on the inspiration of Croatia to prove what we can do. I say play it at CCS, limit England to 10% of the ground as per normal and f**k the plastics who want to see their beloved premiership sides.

It's all or nothing really. I'll be delighted with 2nd, happy with 3rd, unsurprised with 4th and disappointed but not too surrised with last.

Great call Dave we must play them at ccs and we will have a "fighting" chance of the win - really think we have a chance of second spot

Great! Ingerlund! I have enough problems explaining that I'm from Cardiff despite my English accent. When Ingerlund come to town, it's going to magnify tenfold. Not too many problems a few years back, but it sometimes gets me down when some idiots go on about it so much. One valley knob in The Corp once wouldn't let it drop, my mate kept telling him, his mates were bored of him in the end as well. Don't want to bump into him again