FAO OF THE TRUST

annis why dont you request every1 on the message board to try and stop talking about the trust for a while??? because a divide is happening between fans when it shouldnt we all love the club at the end of the day,i personally think the trust is a big need for the club,but i also think wat you do for the club is awsum,reading sum of the posts it looks like its u vs tlg !!!! you both love the club but have different oppinions lets stick together

Its actually quite a good debate, other than a bit of sarcasm, theres no name calling and Yes I would love us all as one.

ah right, thanks for clearing that up for me, i aint gonna ask why T.L.G dont seem to popular on here then
i always enjoy his posts myself.
i dont profess to understand the politics behind the trust and this board but sometimes t.l.g seems to get a rough ride, which seems a bit unfair at times....just my opinion.

Yes I didnt renew because I resigned, by not renewing.
Dont laugh we will get 4-5,000 for another march if needed.
I would like to know how many different addresses.
No Serious, OUR Club as you know is near Administration if The Court cases are not sorted and many bills paid.
What the Trust doing, asking etc.
Are you backing Peter Ridsdale or are you standing up to him ?

I've already told you I don't know how many different addresses but we'll find out soon when we send the AGM notices and voting slips out. Why is the number of addresses so important to you?

What are the Trust doing and asking? In what respect? Are you talking about the current financial situation? If so, we are meeting with the club and asking lots of questions in a bid to get the real picture. What are you doing?

As for Peter Ridsdale, I am neither backing him nor standing up to him. I am continuing to ask him questions.

ah right, thanks for clearing that up for me, i aint gonna ask why T.L.G dont seem to popular on here then
i always enjoy his posts myself.
i dont profess to understand the politics behind the trust and this board but sometimes t.l.g seems to get a rough ride, which seems a bit unfair at times....just my opinion.

You can say that again!

Look at both board today, they may aswell be TLG boards no Cardiff City boards

You just have to read his blogs and posts to realise he is an intelligent guy, and definitely knows his stuff.

This whole anti-march thing seems to have been blown massively out of proportion too, just because he didn't agree with it. I agreed with his reasoning, and people need to realise we have to help find solutions and unite together

ah right, thanks for clearing that up for me, i aint gonna ask why T.L.G dont seem to popular on here then
i always enjoy his posts myself.
i dont profess to understand the politics behind the trust and this board but sometimes t.l.g seems to get a rough ride, which seems a bit unfair at times....just my opinion.

I enjoy his posts and know TLG well as a friend until we argue

ah right, thanks for clearing that up for me, i aint gonna ask why T.L.G dont seem to popular on here then
i always enjoy his posts myself.
i dont profess to understand the politics behind the trust and this board but sometimes t.l.g seems to get a rough ride, which seems a bit unfair at times....just my opinion.

I enjoy his posts and know TLG well as a friend until we argue

a love hate relationship then, just trying to understand the politics behind it thats all. was good to meet you by the way.

ah right, thanks for clearing that up for me, i aint gonna ask why T.L.G dont seem to popular on here then
i always enjoy his posts myself.
i dont profess to understand the politics behind the trust and this board but sometimes t.l.g seems to get a rough ride, which seems a bit unfair at times....just my opinion.

I enjoy his posts and know TLG well as a friend until we argue

a love hate relationship then, just trying to understand the politics behind it thats all. was good to meet you by the way.

After the game yesterday we walked back together, unreal really having a chuckle about the whole day, just have different Opinions.

1) What is the stance now we know the tax is not being paid this week?

2) What stagergies are the trust working on at the moment regarding the current status of the club?

3) Do you feel you have been taken in by Risdales spin/lies?

4) If the situation continues will you support the next protest?

1) As far as I am aware, the club is intending to pay a percentage of the outstanding tax bill this week and agree a repayment schedule with HMRC regarding the rest. Obviously I don't know the figures involved or whether that will be good enough for the taxman.

2) The only strategy the Trust has it to keep talking to the club and try to get as many answers as possible regarding the current situation. Do you have any suggestions as to what we should be doing? We are always open to ideas.

3) No. Not in the slightest. Ironically, I was heavily criticised by two of the moderators from this site for daring to point out a couple of the Chairman's porkies during his visit to the Brunswick.

4) I can't answer that question. We'll have to see how the situation develops and what form any further protests take.

The fact that Annis was saying he can get more people than the trust have I think.

The fact TLG was making i'm guessing is that a march is free, whereas joining the trust costs £12. Probably easier to get someone to do something for free

I'm glad someone worked out what I was alluding to!

People often try to belittle the number of members the Trust has. I can't understand why.

The only strategy the Trust has it to keep talking to the club and try to get as many answers as possible regarding the current situation. Do you have any suggestions as to what we should be doing? We are always open to ideas.

Out of interest are you making any progress? This isn't a dig just a serious question as Ridsdale sounded quite desperate on his last email response to me but seemed very willing to speak with you.

where did he get the idea you was going to charge people? as if ! you cant charge someone to walk the streets

The fact that Annis was saying he can get more people than the trust have I think.

The fact TLG was making i'm guessing is that a march is free, whereas joining the trust costs £12. Probably easier to get someone to do something for free

If only Annis could try and get all those on the march to join the trust we'd be in a better position. The bigger the trust gets the better in my opinion

CF11 - not just saying this to you - just using your qoute as an example do not take offence - just trying to support my reply..................

Here we go again back n for back n for - WHY can we just not all get together and do things in a united way - we have enough shite surrouding the club without bickering between fans/trusts.

I would pay £12 to support the march if that was being done because I believe in what i walked for!

PLEASE any future actions taken by the fans for the fans PLEASE have both boards and trusts and fans work together - come together and fight together for whats right with our club.

ANYONE who is not wanting to do the action/wave flags/sing songs/write letters whatever maybe being done next just stay out of it and those that want to do it - it's so simple

where did he get the idea you was going to charge people? as if ! you cant charge someone to walk the streets

The fact that Annis was saying he can get more people than the trust have I think.

The fact TLG was making i'm guessing is that a march is free, whereas joining the trust costs £12. Probably easier to get someone to do something for free

If only Annis could try and get all those on the march to join the trust we'd be in a better position. The bigger the trust gets the better in my opinion

CF11 - not just saying this to you - just using your qoute as an example do not take offence - just trying to support my reply..................
Here we go again back n for back n for - WHY can we just not all get together and do things in a united way - we have enough shite surrouding the club without bickering between fans/trusts.

I would pay £12 to support the march if that was being done because I believe in what i walked for!

PLEASE any future actions taken by the fans for the fans PLEASE have both boards and trusts and fans work together - come together and fight together for whats right with our club.

ANYONE who is not wanting to do the action/wave flags/sing songs/write letters whatever maybe being done next just stay out of it and those that want to do it - it's so simple

Hmmmm ego's eh

Out of interest are you making any progress? This isn't a dig just a serious question as Ridsdale sounded quite desperate on his last email response to me but seemed very willing to speak with you.

We (ie: myself, Tim Hartley and Keith Morgan) spoke with Peter Ridsdale and Alan Flitcroft on Thursday evening, but to be honest not a great deal came out of that particular meeting. It was more a frank exchange of views on various issues than anything else. However, we are keeping the lines of communication open and hope to be meeting again with a more specific agenda shortly.

1) What is the stance now we know the tax is not being paid this week?

2) What stagergies are the trust working on at the moment regarding the current status of the club?

3) Do you feel you have been taken in by Risdales spin/lies?

4) If the situation continues will you support the next protest?

1) As far as I am aware, the club is intending to pay a percentage of the outstanding tax bill this week and agree a repayment schedule with HMRC regarding the rest. Obviously I don't know the figures involved or whether that will be good enough for the taxman.

2) The only strategy the Trust has it to keep talking to the club and try to get as many answers as possible regarding the current situation. Do you have any suggestions as to what we should be doing? We are always open to ideas.

3) No. Not in the slightest. Ironically, I was heavily criticised by two of the moderators from this site for daring to point out a couple of the Chairman's porkies during his visit to the Brunswick.

4) I can't answer that question. We'll have to see how the situation develops and what form any further protests take.

thanks for your answers i think the trust should issue a statement stating that it as lost all trust in the chairman and board and are worried that the club could enter admin, if the current regime stay in charge. Also state all the lies told by Risdale and try everything they can to oust him

1) What is the stance now we know the tax is not being paid this week?

2) What stagergies are the trust working on at the moment regarding the current status of the club?

3) Do you feel you have been taken in by Risdales spin/lies?

4) If the situation continues will you support the next protest?

1) As far as I am aware, the club is intending to pay a percentage of the outstanding tax bill this week and agree a repayment schedule with HMRC regarding the rest. Obviously I don't know the figures involved or whether that will be good enough for the taxman.

2) The only strategy the Trust has it to keep talking to the club and try to get as many answers as possible regarding the current situation. Do you have any suggestions as to what we should be doing? We are always open to ideas.

3) No. Not in the slightest. Ironically, I was heavily criticised by two of the moderators from this site for daring to point out a couple of the Chairman's porkies during his visit to the Brunswick.

4) I can't answer that question. We'll have to see how the situation develops and what form any further protests take.

thanks for your answers i think the trust should issue a statement stating that it as lost all trust in the chairman and board and are worried that the club could enter admin, if the current regime stay in charge. Also state all the lies told by Risdale and try everything they can to oust him

I back that Ebbw

i think the trust should issue a statement stating that it as lost all trust in the chairman and board and are worried that the club could enter admin, if the current regime stay in charge.

Would that help the current situation in any way? If so, how?

Personally, I believe all issuing a statement such as that would do would be to get the Trust banned from the stadium and ex-communicated by the management.

One of the Trust's stated aims is to maintain a regular dialogue with club officials on all of the issues that affect the fans. We wouldn't be able to do that if we were banned by the club, so I don't see how it would help our members for us to be in such a position.

The adverts for yesterday's march stated that the organisers wanted answers from the club, and I agree with that completely. But we are not going to get answers if we don't ask questions, and we wouldn't get to ask questions if we were banned from the stadium.

Out of interest are you making any progress? This isn't a dig just a serious question as Ridsdale sounded quite desperate on his last email response to me but seemed very willing to speak with you.

We (ie: myself, Tim Hartley and Keith Morgan) spoke with Peter Ridsdale and Alan Flitcroft on Thursday evening, but to be honest not a great deal came out of that particular meeting. It was more a frank exchange of views on various issues than anything else. However, we are keeping the lines of communication open and hope to be meeting again with a more specific agenda shortly.

Excellent and keep up the good work. The fact they are talking is good but I doubt they will play ball until the Malaysian involvement becomes clearer this week.

If there is no sigifigant Far East cash then I'm sure they will become increasinly desperate and that will give you your oppotunity.

Of course if sigifigant Malaysian money does appear then who really cares about demos and meetings with Ridsdale

i think the trust should issue a statement stating that it as lost all trust in the chairman and board and are worried that the club could enter admin, if the current regime stay in charge.

Would that help the current situation in any way? If so, how?

Personally, I believe all issuing a statement such as that would do would be to get the Trust banned from the stadium and ex-communicated by the management.

One of the Trust's stated aims is to maintain a regular dialogue with club officials on all of the issues that affect the fans. We wouldn't be able to do that if we were banned by the club, so I don't see how it would help our members for us to be in such a position.

The adverts for yesterday's march stated that the organisers wanted answers from the club, and I agree with that completely. But we are not going to get answers if we don't ask questions, and we wouldn't get to ask questions if we were banned from the stadium.

It would show the chairman and the board all fans are really feed up with the current situation.

You say the trust is in regular dialogue with the club and what fruit is this dialogue bearing as i can see none. All you are being told is want Risdale wants to tell you, there are no real answers on why he as said 3 times the tax bill will be paid but still hasn't.

I think the trust will gain more members and respect if thay speak out against the current regime.

I think we should keep up a two pronged approach. The Trust keeps doing what it's doing by seeking clarity via meetings and us fans will continue to voice our discontent at the management of our club by marching. We're not harming anyone by marching, Saturday proved that. We're just using our voice to state what we think of the current plight of the club.

Reading the Trust bit in the programme, intimates someone has been appointed to do community work for them outside of elections.

It's somewhat ironic that someone having questioned the aims of the march seems to believe the way to go is a meeting with Ridsdale. Guess that'll work? Maybe Ridders will have a conscience attack and repent?

He did meet Ridsdale last week and thats why he fought on his side so much, Ridsdale can really put you under a spell

Annis

I was with Dave (and Tim Hartley the Trust vice-chairman) at the meeting with Peter Ridsdale and Alan Flitcroft on Thursday evening. The club`s press man was the other person there and i can confirm that there is no way Dave or anyone else was swayed in their views as a result of that meeting.

A few Trust board members had been asked to attend at fairly short notice by PR to listen to his views on the present financial position at the club and their need to raise funds in the short term through season ticket sales or other means.

PR stressed that the club`s budget was based on a need to sell as many as possible of the extra 6,000 season tickets that the club has been pushing as the £1.5m or so that would raise is badly needed. Our response was that we fully appreciated that , if the money was not raised , it would cause another cash hole that would somehow have to be filled elsewhere , which is a problem for the club. However , we stressed our view that the request was doomed to failure because of the way in which the initial season ticket sales had been mismanaged.

The club`s statement on the official website about the march on Saturday was also discussed. We firstly stressed the Trust view that each fan was perfectly entitled to express their anger and protest in this way and that many Trust members , including board members ,would be taking part as individuals even though it was not a Trust organised event.Then we talked about the announcement on the club`s official website which we said intimated that any fan who marched was somehow disloyal and not a "true fan". We told the club that we thought that such comments were both insulting to fans and were likely to actually generate support for the march rather than discourage people from attending.The article was of course withdrawn very quickly off the site.

A positive message out of the meeting was that both directors present were of the view that potential investment and sponsorship talks have moved on and they were more positive now than they were a week or so earlier.


Keith

Keith, WELL DONE FOR MARCHING ON SATURDAY and SHOWING THE CLUB THEY ARE IN THE WRONG

Whilst I applaud you taking up the statement with club officials, it was removed before 6:30, so was thus removed before any meeting?

Whilst I applaud you taking up the statement with club officials, it was removed before 6:30, so was thus removed before any meeting?

Yes I think it was. I didn`t mean to imply in my post that the Thursday meeting caused it to be removed , just that we stressed how badly thought out it had been.

Whilst I applaud you taking up the statement with club officials, it was removed before 6:30, so was thus removed before any meeting?

Yes I think it was. I didn`t mean to imply in my post that the Thursday meeting caused it to be removed , just that we stressed how badly thought out it had been.

Yeah, just read that way.

To be honest, wouldn't surprise me if Riddler would have tried to mislead you over that, bit of schmoozing, may you think you were responsible..