SAM HAVING THE WOOL PULLED OVER HIS EYES.

they are all to blame ,at the end of the day they all saw what was happening and did nothing.

Yup, carl, it's just a happy coincidence the same things seem to happen repeatedly to poor Peter. Leeds wasn't really his fault, and Barnsley, why, he left them in a mess.

Here, doing a stirling job, not repeated any mistakes whatsoever, god no, see, it was really the pesky major shareholders. They told him to spend high on wages, not address the wage / income differential. They gave him chinese burns, see, he really wanted to run the club on a tight fiscal basis.

Of course PMG are covering their arses, getting money back. To point to them as the real reason for the financial meltdown is a farcical notion...

Nerd, PMG AND PR are as guilty as each other in my eyes

You can argue Guy and all are culpable, but the day to day running, strategy, approach has been Ridsdale's baby.

Ridsdale's been the well-paid front man, and now he is the well-paid fall guy. It was bound to happen to happen eventually.

You don't seriously believe this whole business is down to one man, do you?

Ask yourself this question: how many stadium and retail development projects has Mr RP Ridsdale previously been involved in? And how many projects of that type have the club's major shareholders been involved in?

Who is more likley to have taken the lead here - the bloke who used to sell socks or the men who build shops?

The socks wnt bust

Yup, carl, it's just a happy coincidence the same things seem to happen repeatedly to poor Peter. Leeds wasn't really his fault, and Barnsley, why, he left them in a mess.

Here, doing a stirling job, not repeated any mistakes whatsoever, god no, see, it was really the pesky major shareholders. They told him to spend high on wages, not address the wage / income differential. They gave him chinese burns, see, he really wanted to run the club on a tight fiscal basis.

Of course PMG are covering their arses, getting money back. To point to them as the real reason for the financial meltdown is a farcical notion...

Nerd, PMG AND PR are as guilty as each other in my eyes

I don't disagree that PMG are culpable to a degree - but let's be honest - only an idiot would claim PMG were involved in day to day decisions with regards to the running of the football club. It could also be argued PMG were at fault for giving Ridsdale a free reign.

Who dealt with player contracts - Guy or Ridsdale?

i cant belive that tlg spokesmen for the the trust is sticking up for PR after what he has done and is doing to our club tlg you are either on the payroll or just plain thick as shit !

TLG, Your best bet is to stop your private meetings with PR as he really has spun you.

I've been telling you for months and months and months and months that there is a much bigger picture here. I'm guessing Sam has been telling you that too. He's seemed to know the score whenever I've talked to him in recent months.

You seem to want to treat this whole thing as a pantomine, where are the bullets are aimed at one villain alone. That's absolutely ridiculous in my view.

My meetings with Ridsdale (on behalf of the Trust) have often been revealing, but not necessarily because of what is said during them. It's who I have seen coming and going before and after them that has been of equal interest. In my opinion, anyone who thinks one man has brought about this situation and it will all be resolved if he slings his hook is living in cloud cuckoo land.

i cant belive that tlg spokesmen for the the trust is sticking up for PR after what he has done and is doing to our club tlg you are either on the payroll or just plain thick as shit !

i cant belive that tlg spokesmen for the the trust is sticking up for PR after what he has done and is doing to our club tlg you are either on the payroll or just plain thick as shit !

Wez..... from my understanding hes been privately meeting the riddler and has also been offered a job too by Riddler.

i cant belive that tlg spokesmen for the the trust is sticking up for PR after what he has done and is doing to our club tlg you are either on the payroll or just plain thick as shit !

I'm not the f*cking spokesman for the Trust and I'm not sticking up for Ridsdale. He can do that for himself. I'm merely saying I believe there is a much bigger picture here. Personally, I reckon you'd have to be as thick as shit not to spot it.

TLG, Your best bet is to stop your private meetings with PR as he really has spun you.

I've been telling you for months and months and months and months that there is a much bigger picture here. I'm guessing Sam has been telling you that too. He's seemed to know the score whenever I've talked to him in recent months.

You seem to want to treat this whole thing as a pantomine, where are the bullets are aimed at one villain alone. That's absolutely ridiculous in my view.

My meetings with Ridsdale (on behalf of the Trust) have often been revealing, but not necessarily because of what is said during them. It's who I have seen coming and going before and after them that has been of equal interest. In my opinion, anyone who thinks one man has brought about this situation and it will all be resolved if he slings his hook is living in cloud cuckoo land.

Dave would it not help the club if he were not here though ?

i cant belive that tlg spokesmen for the the trust is sticking up for PR after what he has done and is doing to our club tlg you are either on the payroll or just plain thick as shit !

I'm not the f*cking spokesman for the Trust and I'm not sticking up for Ridsdale. He can do that for himself. I'm merely saying I believe there is a much bigger picture here. Personally, I reckon you'd have to be as thick as shit not to spot it.

looks like raw nerve hit Wez.... hes already confessed to Annis, regards private meetings! also other informed about job offer! hes just in it for himself, even corky had enough of him regards march etc.

Lets not turn this thread into a row gents plz it is a good debate at present

what is your job with the trust then? cause you seem to be doing all the talking on ccmb message board and on here?
as a trust leader or board member why are you having meetings with pr? is it business or pleasure and ? what has been said in these meetings for you to be sticking up for pr and why have you or the trust have a gripe with pmg?

Dave would it not help the club if he were not here though ?

I don't know. You'd have to ask the board that. They are backing him at present, as we saw at the EGM.

Dave would it not help the club if he were not here though ?

I don't know. You'd have to ask the board that. They are backing him at present, as we saw at the EGM.

Fair point , what I was suggesting was that the money he is on and the jobs he has made up for his mates could save this club al lot of money

1) what is your job with the trust then? cause you seem to be doing all the talking on ccmb message board and on here?

2) as a trust leader or board member why are you having meetings with pr? is it business or pleasure and ?

3) what has been said in these meetings for you to be sticking up for pr and why have you or the trust have a gripe with pmg?

1) I'm the membership secretary at present. However, that doesn't mean to say I'm speaking for the Trust 24/7. When I do speak for the Trust, I make it 100% clear.

2) Along with several other colleagues fromthe Trust, I meet with club officials in order to discuss the issues that affect our members. That's one of the main reasons fro the Trust's existence.

3) Plenty has been said at these meetings. Sometimes they last four hours. When they are formal meetings, they are minuted and reported back to Trust members, but I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and say you're obviously not one of them.

4) I'm not sticking up for Ridsdale. And the Trust have never met with PMG.

You have not really answered the question of whether you have been offered a job by the riddler?

Fair point , what I was suggesting was that the money he is on and the jobs he has made up for his mates could save this club al lot of money

Perhaps, but evidently Borley and Co don't think his departure at this particulat point in time is a good idea. My guess is we will see a shake-up either as a result of a takeover or during the close-season if a takeover hasn't happened before then.

you guys will do nothing to stop him (as usual), so I'll bid you gentlemen a good evening.

What about you private meetings rumoured?

A.. Do you deny them and your unoffical conversations?

B. Was the job offer real and if not what were the circumstances?

C. Whats your experience of running a business, you clearly quote well on it so whats your experience to preach?

You have not really answered the question of whether you have been offered a job by the riddler?

Of course I haven't. If you believe the bullshit spouted, you'll believe any old shite.

I don't need a job. I've got one.

TLG has to be right surely, PR is not 100% behind all the decisions made, as many have said he is a puppet.

I for one would like to see him gone, however you have to think there is an ulterior motive for keeping him at the moment.
As the saying goes, keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.

We need a clean sweep at the top, but until someone is willing to pay the asking price we are stuck with the parasites.

1) what is your job with the trust then? cause you seem to be doing all the talking on ccmb message board and on here?

2) as a trust leader or board member why are you having meetings with pr? is it business or pleasure and ?

3) what has been said in these meetings for you to be sticking up for pr and why have you or the trust have a gripe with pmg?

1) I'm the membership secretary at present. However, that doesn't mean to say I'm speaking for the Trust 24/7. When I do speak for the Trust, I make it 100% clear.

2) Along with several other colleagues fromthe Trust, I meet with club officials in order to discuss the issues that affect our members. That's one of the main reasons fro the Trust's existence.

3) Plenty has been said at these meetings. Sometimes they last four hours. When they are formal meetings, they are minuted and reported back to Trust members, but I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark here and say you're obviously not one of them.

4) I'm not sticking up for Ridsdale. And the Trust have never met with PMG.

you have always got a lot to say but why havent you said or posted anything that was said in the meeting you had with pr ! it seem a bit strange to me ?
have you been offered a job with the club at this meeting and thats why nothing has been posted by yourself or the trust?

Fair point , what I was suggesting was that the money he is on and the jobs he has made up for his mates could save this club al lot of money

Perhaps, but evidently Borley and Co don't think his departure at this particulat point in time is a good idea. My guess is we will see a shake-up either as a result of a takeover or during the close-season if a takeover hasn't happened before then.

you guys will do nothing to stop him (as usual), so I'll bid you gentlemen a good evening.

Cant hack the heat

Fair point , what I was suggesting was that the money he is on and the jobs he has made up for his mates could save this club al lot of money

Perhaps, but evidently Borley and Co don't think his departure at this particulat point in time is a good idea. My guess is we will see a shake-up either as a result of a takeover or during the close-season if a takeover hasn't happened before then.

you guys will do nothing to stop him (as usual), so I'll bid you gentlemen a good evening.

I have deleted and edited both your posts throughout tonight and would hope you recognise that Dave and retract the last bit of this statement.

You have not really answered the question of whether you have been offered a job by the riddler?

Of course I haven't. If you believe the bullshit spouted, you'll believe any old shite.

I don't need a job. I've got one.

Where did i say i believe it??? You bring this on yourself by not denying allegations as you feel you shouldnt have too. A trait of Peter Ridsdale.

Carl, he cant help himself, especially when rumbled. the sad thing is he has no credence to back up his mouth/well keyboard. no suprise.

You have not really answered the question of whether you have been offered a job by the riddler?

Of course I haven't. If you believe the bullshit spouted, you'll believe any old shite.

I don't need a job. I've got one.

Where did i say i believe it??? You bring this on yourself by not denying allegations as you feel you shouldnt have too. A trait of Peter Ridsdale.

if i was in a meeting with pr for four hours i would have a lot to write or type about ,tlg hasnt mentioned anything about it other than he didnt take minutes cause it was informal, seems to me hes just arse kissing with pr !

Bang on Wez..... hes full of it..... even been having one to ones!

Can't Daya and TLG just get a hotel room?

I mean, all this arguing - surely the make up monkeyfacing would be fantastic?

Can't Daya and TLG just get a hotel room?

I mean, all this arguing - surely the make up monkeyfacing would be fantastic?

tlg done that with pr