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Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:42 pm

Dange wrote:Before I get my hopes up.........Annis/Carl how do you rate our chances of this happening??


Honestly I am not in a position to say as I am not in discussions with the Malaysians but what I was told today I came home and posted it :thumbup:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:51 pm

carlccfc wrote:I learned today that Steve Borley is in Malaysia working on a deal to sell the club to the malaysians using the 'drag on' option in the company's constitution.

Basically a 'drag on' means that if 51% of the shareholders agree a price then the other 49% have to sell.

I was informed that the club is being offered for less than 10p a share, meaning that Guy, Hall will take the biggest hits as they are the largest shareholders but now they have the hotel land along with the retail park they are quite relaxed about it.

A stumbling block is that so far there is not, I believe, 51% of shareholders yet, who agree in principal to this strategy but they are very close.

BETWEEN PAUL GUY, MIKE HALL, PMG ESTATES,ALAN WHITELY AND STEVE BORLEY THERE IS 39.47% SHARES.

THE QUESTION IS WHO WILL SUPPLY THE OTHER 11.53%.

RUDGWICK OWN 4.65% SO THAT MAYBE A STARTER.

This is the way that the board can get rid of PR without him getting his £1 million handshake and also not making on his 'GIFTED' shares too :ayatollah:

fantasyland sorry. :ayatollah:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 7:54 pm

byron moreno wrote:
carlccfc wrote:I learned today that Steve Borley is in Malaysia working on a deal to sell the club to the malaysians using the 'drag on' option in the company's constitution.

Basically a 'drag on' means that if 51% of the shareholders agree a price then the other 49% have to sell.

I was informed that the club is being offered for less than 10p a share, meaning that Guy, Hall will take the biggest hits as they are the largest shareholders but now they have the hotel land along with the retail park they are quite relaxed about it.

A stumbling block is that so far there is not, I believe, 51% of shareholders yet, who agree in principal to this strategy but they are very close.

BETWEEN PAUL GUY, MIKE HALL, PMG ESTATES,ALAN WHITELY AND STEVE BORLEY THERE IS 39.47% SHARES.

THE QUESTION IS WHO WILL SUPPLY THE OTHER 11.53%.

RUDGWICK OWN 4.65% SO THAT MAYBE A STARTER.

This is the way that the board can get rid of PR without him getting his £1 million handshake and also not making on his 'GIFTED' shares too :ayatollah:

fantasyland sorry. :ayatollah:



Who's :?: :D

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:01 pm

Thank you Carl

Sounds very realistic and extremely promising.

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:02 pm

CityGent wrote:Thank you Carl

Sounds very realistic and extremely promising.


It is Realistic, but we live in hope :ayatollah:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:03 pm

CityGent wrote:Thank you Carl

Sounds very realistic and extremely promising.


No probs Nice to have seen you on Sat, it's been a long time :ayatollah:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:04 pm

When you look the overwhelming vote in favour of the land deal there is a fair chance it would go though.

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:05 pm

With Sam on board we'd only need another 7% and then, 'Goodbye The Rizla!'

StT.

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:06 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
CityGent wrote:Thank you Carl

Sounds very realistic and extremely promising.


It is Realistic, but we live in hope :ayatollah:


Not getting my hopes up yet, but im quietly confident that Borley will come back with the news we are all hoping for, this option sounds very promising and is by far the best option for our club in my opinion. :ayatollah:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:09 pm

carlccfc wrote:
CityGent wrote:Thank you Carl

Sounds very realistic and extremely promising.


No probs Nice to have seen you on Sat, it's been a long time :ayatollah:


Good to see you too mate. It wasn't Since 62 who posted something similar, it was Mike Morris. Even if it's not the Malaysians i'm sure someone will step up eventually. There's life in the old dog yet

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:10 pm

Don't forget Clemo's £1.57p worth of shares.

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:12 pm

This deal sounds possible.

The Malaysians get the club for a slightly higher price than they would pay the administrator, but the club has not sold all its players.

And as a bonus the Riddler gets run out of town with next to feck all.

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:32 pm

carlccfc wrote:
ihatealiens wrote:I think since 62 proposed that strategy on the other board today


OK didnt realise that,

and i suggested this course of action weeks ago, keep up at the back.

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:37 pm

But they would still be lumbered with all the debt - i cant see them going for it but i pray like the rest of you!

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 8:53 pm

Keith Harris should sell his share been has he had them for f**k all. Plus he is involved in this red knights thing. Thats 3.9%

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:06 pm

ccfclover wrote:But they would still be lumbered with all the debt - i cant see them going for it but i pray like the rest of you!

i think they have more money than the currentnlot and could refinace the debts

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:06 pm

So who can put the following list into two columns, one headed by PMG and Borley, the other headed by PR. Perhaps then we can see who we need to threaten to swap sides.

PMG Estates Ltd (15.4%)
Robert Peter Ridsdale (10.1%)
Steve Borley (7.9%)
Paul Guy (5%)
Rudgwick Ltd (4.5%)
Richard Crane (3.9%)
Seymour Pierce Ltd (3.9%)
Ludlow Street Investment Corporation (3.9%)
Triple-I Holdings Ltd (3.4%)
David Alan Whiteley (3.1%)
Nigel Roberts (3.1%)
M&A Solicitors LLP (1.9%)
S Dudley & Sons Ltd (1.5%)
Office Visions (Wales) Ltd (1.5%)
Terry Melia (1.5%)
Gareth Williams (1.5%)
Bryn Meadows Golf Club (1.5%)
Richard Gardener (1.5%)
Fitel Nominees Ltd (1.5%)
David Herbert (1.5%)
John Herbert (1.5%)
Frank Moloney (1.5%)
Vince McNabb (1.5%)
Evans Electrica (1.2%).
Geoffrey Palmer (1.2%)
Alan Flitcroft (1%)
Dave Jones (1%)
Nick Iacono (0.8%)
Willis Systems Ltd (0.3%)
Annis Abraham Jnr (0.2%)
Michael Isaac (0.1%)

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:07 pm

the biggest debt is Sam's and it was the Malaysians who told the club to get it reduced :evil:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:08 pm

Dave jones' wife has more than dave jones u know how much she got ?

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:08 pm

Steve Borley (7.9%) robert peter risdale
Paul Guy (5%)
Rudgwick Ltd (4.5%)
Richard Crane (3.9%)
Seymour Pierce Ltd (3.9%)
Ludlow Street Investment Corporation (3.9%)
Triple-I Holdings Ltd (3.4%)
David Alan Whiteley (3.1%)
Nigel Roberts (3.1%)
M&A Solicitors LLP (1.9%)
S Dudley & Sons Ltd (1.5%)
Office Visions (Wales) Ltd (1.5%)
Terry Melia (1.5%)
Gareth Williams (1.5%)
Bryn Meadows Golf Club (1.5%)
Richard Gardener (1.5%)

bye bye peter :ayatollah:
Fitel Nominees Ltd (1.5%)
David Herbert (1.5%)
John Herbert (1.5%)
Frank Moloney (1.5%)
Vince McNabb (1.5%)
Evans Electrica (1.2%).
Geoffrey Palmer (1.2%)
Alan Flitcroft (1%)
Dave Jones (1%)
Nick Iacono (0.8%)
Willis Systems Ltd (0.3%)
Annis Abraham Jnr (0.2%)
Michael Isaac (0.1%)

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:09 pm

Wayne S wrote:So who can put the following list into two columns, one headed by PMG and Borley, the other headed by PR. Perhaps then we can see who we need to threaten to swap sides.

PMG Estates Ltd (15.4%)
Robert Peter Ridsdale (10.1%)
Steve Borley (7.9%)
Paul Guy (5%)
Rudgwick Ltd (4.5%)
Richard Crane (3.9%)
Seymour Pierce Ltd (3.9%)
Ludlow Street Investment Corporation (3.9%)
Triple-I Holdings Ltd (3.4%)
David Alan Whiteley (3.1%)
Nigel Roberts (3.1%)
M&A Solicitors LLP (1.9%)
S Dudley & Sons Ltd (1.5%)
Office Visions (Wales) Ltd (1.5%)
Terry Melia (1.5%)
Gareth Williams (1.5%)
Bryn Meadows Golf Club (1.5%)
Richard Gardener (1.5%)
Fitel Nominees Ltd (1.5%)
David Herbert (1.5%)
John Herbert (1.5%)
Frank Moloney (1.5%)
Vince McNabb (1.5%)
Evans Electrica (1.2%).
Geoffrey Palmer (1.2%)
Alan Flitcroft (1%)
Dave Jones (1%)
Nick Iacono (0.8%)
Willis Systems Ltd (0.3%)
Annis Abraham Jnr (0.2%)
Michael Isaac (0.1%)


mike hall is missing from your list ;)

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:11 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Wayne S wrote:So who can put the following list into two columns, one headed by PMG and Borley, the other headed by PR. Perhaps then we can see who we need to threaten to swap sides.



mike hall is missing from your list ;)


I thought Hall's was part of the PMG lot.

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:14 pm

carlccfc wrote:
Wayne S wrote:So who can put the following list into two columns, one headed by PMG and Borley, the other headed by PR. Perhaps then we can see who we need to threaten to swap sides.

PMG Estates Ltd (15.4%)
Robert Peter Ridsdale (10.1%)
Steve Borley (7.9%)
Paul Guy (5%)
Rudgwick Ltd (4.5%)
Richard Crane (3.9%)
Seymour Pierce Ltd (3.9%)
Ludlow Street Investment Corporation (3.9%)
Triple-I Holdings Ltd (3.4%)
David Alan Whiteley (3.1%)
Nigel Roberts (3.1%)
M&A Solicitors LLP (1.9%)
S Dudley & Sons Ltd (1.5%)
Office Visions (Wales) Ltd (1.5%)
Terry Melia (1.5%)
Gareth Williams (1.5%)
Bryn Meadows Golf Club (1.5%)
Richard Gardener (1.5%)
Fitel Nominees Ltd (1.5%)
David Herbert (1.5%)
John Herbert (1.5%)
Frank Moloney (1.5%)
Vince McNabb (1.5%)
Evans Electrica (1.2%).
Geoffrey Palmer (1.2%)
Alan Flitcroft (1%)
Dave Jones (1%)
Nick Iacono (0.8%)
Willis Systems Ltd (0.3%)
Annis Abraham Jnr (0.2%)
Michael Isaac (0.1%)


mike hall is missing from your list ;)



I've got 0.2% he can have mine for f-all if he gets rid of Ridsdale, if he pays me 10p per share my wife would be so happy I might even get a hot meal ;) . I'm sure there are plenty of others who'd bite his hand off for 10p.

Is Annis hanging on for 45p :lol:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:20 pm

mike hall got 7.46% Wayne which are seperate to PMG :thumbup:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:20 pm

:lol: I want to be vice Chairman to The Malaysians :lol: :ayatollah:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:24 pm

Forever Blue wrote::lol: I want to be vice Chairman to The Malaysians :lol: :ayatollah:


f**k me i need my glasses.....you dont look Malaysian to me :lol:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:25 pm

ccfclover wrote:
Forever Blue wrote::lol: I want to be vice Chairman to The Malaysians :lol: :ayatollah:


f**k me i need my glasses.....you dont look Malaysian to me :lol:

:lol:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:42 pm

Forever Blue wrote::lol: I want to be vice Chairman to The Malaysians :lol: :ayatollah:


Are You Sure?

I have visions of a fans protest march 4 years down the line against the new regime. Not sure you would like your face all over banners. :D

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 9:44 pm

Wayne S wrote:
Forever Blue wrote::lol: I want to be vice Chairman to The Malaysians :lol: :ayatollah:


Are You Sure?

I have visions of a fans protest march 4 years down the line against the new regime. Not sure you would like your face all over banners. :D

:lol:

Re: BORLEY IN MALAYSIA

Thu Mar 11, 2010 10:27 pm

Dange wrote:Before I get my hopes up.........Annis/Carl how do you rate our chances of this happening??



What price admin ?

£2-£2.5m will get 51% of the shares at 10p each.

Bargain :lol: