CHEAP SHOT BY TLG

tlg? hooligan? LOL

Last edited by Ben on Sun Mar 14, 2010 10:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Gwyn you say TLG made a cheap shot in his statement and on the face of it you are probably right. But in TLG's defence, he has taken a lot of totally unjust abuse off this messageboard for just stating his personal opinion. I find it all a bit distasteful to be honest, as TLG bleeds Cardiff City blue in his veins and works damn hard for the trust.
TLG was unwise to bring up Annis's past, but how would anyone like to have had the abuse TLG has had this past week or so? C'mon fellas give the guy a break and I find it really sad that Annis and TLG were good friends not so long ago and now seem enemies. I hope they both one day put all this behind them and bury the hatchet (Not in eachother. lol) as they both love CCFC more than nearly anything else in life!

what I would like is for everyone to stop all this sillyness and sit down and chat

its getting us nowhere

any chance of that ?

come on , we have a club to support



I think we will be better off if we stick together, whatever the differences we have

come on lads

by issue that statement he has made himself look stupid and probably cost
the trust memberships if the rest of the members got any sense they would vote him off
it is sour grapes because the protest was a success and yes there was swearing like there is inside the ground every home match grow up tlg and admit that you done nothing right through this and by bringing up people past is lower than a snails arse why dont you go and get a job with your mate ridsdale at his next club or is it because the job at city has now gone up in smoke that you wrangled out of ridsdale if rumours are to be believed

Gwyn you say TLG made a cheap shot in his statement and on the face of it you are probably right. But in TLG's defence, he has taken a lot of totally unjust abuse off this messageboard for just stating his personal opinion. I find it all a bit distasteful to be honest, as TLG bleeds Cardiff City blue in his veins and works damn hard for the trust.
TLG was unwise to bring up Annis's past, but how would anyone like to have had the abuse TLG has had this past week or so? C'mon fellas give the guy a break and I find it really sad that Annis and TLG were good friends not so long ago and now seem enemies. I hope they both one day put all this behind them and bury the hatchet (Not in eachother. lol) as they both love CCFC more than nearly anything else in life!

come on lads

everyone is getting too old for this ?

forget who is right or who is wrong , just lets move forward

we MAY be in for a better few months than we thought if the news of the world story is correct

what I would like is for everyone to stop all this sillyness and sit down and chat

its getting us nowhere

any chance of that ?

come on , we have a club to support



I think we will be better off if we stick together, whatever the differences we have

come on lads

Sludge what do you think of his post ?

I think all this is going too far , thats what I think

I have tried for weeks to think that the trust and peaceful protest is the right way forward..and I still think that

and as we are all cardiff fans , we need to respect each other and move forward

there has been far to much negative stuff flying around from all directions

lets put a lid on it all , shake hands and move on

thats what I think

Gwyn you say TLG made a cheap shot in his statement and on the face of it you are probably right. But in TLG's defence, he has taken a lot of totally unjust abuse off this messageboard for just stating his personal opinion. I find it all a bit distasteful to be honest, as TLG bleeds Cardiff City blue in his veins and works damn hard for the trust.
TLG was unwise to bring up Annis's past, but how would anyone like to have had the abuse TLG has had this past week or so? C'mon fellas give the guy a break and I find it really sad that Annis and TLG were good friends not so long ago and now seem enemies. I hope they both one day put all this behind them and bury the hatchet (Not in eachother. lol) as they both love CCFC more than nearly anything else in life!

come on lads

everyone is getting too old for this ?

forget who is right or who is wrong , just lets move forward

we MAY be in for a better few months than we thought if the news of the world story is correct

sludge i quite like dave and he is as passionate as anyone else but everybody drops bollocks and gets things wrong we should all be able to say we were wrong and say we are sorry
do you think dave has those characteristics in his armoury.

why does everyone give TLG so much credence /attention anyway. What significance does his opinion have anyway,he is just another fan like the rest of us isnt he or does he have a different agenda?

I will be cancelling my standing order to the trust, This messageboard and its posters have been far more instrumental than what I have seen the trust do and the march was a credit to all involved and who participated far more urgency and efforts made than what the trust have done. Infact it reminds of the valley rams old site and there is great banter and friendship by thoose who post on this site. Well done everyone the trust is dead long live this messageboard and all who sail in her

Gwyn you say TLG made a cheap shot in his statement and on the face of it you are probably right. But in TLG's defence, he has taken a lot of totally unjust abuse off this messageboard for just stating his personal opinion. I find it all a bit distasteful to be honest, as TLG bleeds Cardiff City blue in his veins and works damn hard for the trust.
TLG was unwise to bring up Annis's past, but how would anyone like to have had the abuse TLG has had this past week or so? C'mon fellas give the guy a break and I find it really sad that Annis and TLG were good friends not so long ago and now seem enemies. I hope they both one day put all this behind them and bury the hatchet (Not in eachother. lol) as they both love CCFC more than nearly anything else in life!

I used to feel this way too, but it's completely cahnged over the past few weeks, the guy just doesnt do himself (or the Trust) and favours at all. As a head member of the Trust, everything he says will be interoperated as being the stance of the Trust. If his opinion in not the same as the Trust's official line, then he must keep quiet about it in public, that's simple leadership basics. Yes I agree, it is sad how relationships have broken down, but it's all the result of his own making.

I'm a trust member, and the leader of my trust is openly criticising my choice to protest at the catastrophic running of my club. Why does he condemn 2000 people making an effort? that's what he should have been doing! Why does he say it had no objectives? (by the way arent those Ridsales exact words). Here they are for you.

1. A show of unity in opposition to the way the club is being run (Successfully achieved)
2. To highlight the displeasure of the fans to Peter Ridsdale the board (Successfully achieved)
3. To raise the profile of fans displaese and gain maximum publicity in the media (Successfully achieved)

we all have to have a cool head while the investment goes through and pherhaps if certain people meet
for clear the air talks we can go on from there annis and tlg have cardiff at heart and i am not saying the statement
was right it was not and when tlg reads the way he has worded it he might come to his senses and apolgise
that is his choice no one elses we have had good news for once lets enjoy it annis do not let anything spoil the news we had tonight you have the support of all the people on the protest enjoy the fact that ridsdale days are numbered

Gwyn you say TLG made a cheap shot in his statement and on the face of it you are probably right. But in TLG's defence, he has taken a lot of totally unjust abuse off this messageboard for just stating his personal opinion. I find it all a bit distasteful to be honest, as TLG bleeds Cardiff City blue in his veins and works damn hard for the trust.
TLG was unwise to bring up Annis's past, but how would anyone like to have had the abuse TLG has had this past week or so? C'mon fellas give the guy a break and I find it really sad that Annis and TLG were good friends not so long ago and now seem enemies. I hope they both one day put all this behind them and bury the hatchet (Not in eachother. lol) as they both love CCFC more than nearly anything else in life!

I used to feel this way too, but it's completely cahnged over the past few weeks, the guy just doesnt do himself (or the Trust) and favours at all. As a head member of the Trust, everything he says will be interoperated as being the stance of the Trust. If his opinion in not the same as the Trust's official line, then he must keep quiet about it in public, that's simple leadership basics. Yes I agree, it is sad how relationships have broken down, but it's all the result of his own making.

I'm a trust member, and the leader of my trust is openly criticising my choice to protest at the catastrophic running of my club. Why does he condemn 2000 people making an effort? that's what he should have been doing! Why does he say it had no objectives? (by the way arent those Ridsales exact words). Here they are for you.

1. A show of unity in opposition to the way the club is being run (Successfully achieved)
2. To highlight the displeasure of the fans to Peter Ridsdale the board (Successfully achieved)
3. To raise the profile of fans displaese and gain maximum publicity in the media (Successfully achieved)

I'm also a member of the trust and I also didn't agree with TLG's opinion of the march, but in the comments I've seen from him, he made it plain it was his own personal opinion and members of the trust could make up their own mind if they wanted to support the march or not. TLG is not the only one of the trust leadership, yet hes the one that gets all the abuse. To me thats totally unfair!

I like to think of Dave as a mate and nothing as changed that, but taking flak is one thing, stooping to retots such as this are moves I would never have expected from him.

We are all human and we can all get hurt through abuse,but sometimes the best way to deal with such criticisms is to let others fight your corner, people will defend others if they think they are being judged unfairly,but tit for tat point scoring does nobody any favours.

Anyone in positions of trust/power/spokesperson etc. is sadly fair game to be shot at, when I ran the RAMS it was open season against me and my mates who helped set them up and ran the group.

My attitude was that it was set up for the right reasons, it achieved some massive results in changing our fans behaviour and reputation, and whislt mistakes were made, we tried to learn from them and change. In my own mind I was doing things for the right reason, trying to help my club and my fellow fans, it wasn't about acclaim or ego massage.
I was happy in my own actions and had a clear concience, you can't ask for more personally,I new I wasn't everyone's cup of tea so trying to change peoples pre-concieved ideas when thye weren't prepared to change was pointless, so I would rise above it and not lower myself into the cheap shot keyboard battles that happen on most message boards.

I No longer want to be part of the trust and I will now email TLG to cancel my membership.

Sorry but who the hell decided this thread should be a sticky?

You lot were all for promoting a 'sniper free' board when it first started, but at the moment it's much worse than I've ever noticed on Mike's board. It's getting pathetic really.

It really does seem that several people have ulterior motives, and people like eddie may only ever seem to post about the trust and tlg! It would be interesting to know who he is, and whether he is even a member of the trust.

Annis and others keep saying it's important to unite the fans and all the rest of it, but then they go and make stickies slagging off trust members and the trust itself! All we ever seem to get on this board is people slagging off the trust, public 'resignations' from the trust and general childish behaviour

I don't see why Dave not backing the march has anything to do with it anyway. Unfortunately even though it was good publicity it was still a huge minority of the fans that attended, and I'm sure it would have been the same had the trust/supporters club backed it too.

I think its time to put all this behind us

Its really not getting us anywhere

come on lads

lets move forward

i am not a member of the trust but i would not resign if i was
because the simply reason is that you are tarnishing everyone with the same brush as tlg
there are other people who work for the trust who work hard just because one person acts
stupid and issues statements that slag people off does not mean the trust is not a good thing
we need a trust

Gwyn you say TLG made a cheap shot in his statement and on the face of it you are probably right. But in TLG's defence, he has taken a lot of totally unjust abuse off this messageboard for just stating his personal opinion. I find it all a bit distasteful to be honest, as TLG bleeds Cardiff City blue in his veins and works damn hard for the trust.
TLG was unwise to bring up Annis's past, but how would anyone like to have had the abuse TLG has had this past week or so? C'mon fellas give the guy a break and I find it really sad that Annis and TLG were good friends not so long ago and now seem enemies. I hope they both one day put all this behind them and bury the hatchet (Not in eachother. lol) as they both love CCFC more than nearly anything else in life!

I used to feel this way too, but it's completely cahnged over the past few weeks, the guy just doesnt do himself (or the Trust) and favours at all. As a head member of the Trust, everything he says will be interoperated as being the stance of the Trust. If his opinion in not the same as the Trust's official line, then he must keep quiet about it in public, that's simple leadership basics. Yes I agree, it is sad how relationships have broken down, but it's all the result of his own making.

I'm a trust member, and the leader of my trust is openly criticising my choice to protest at the catastrophic running of my club. Why does he condemn 2000 people making an effort? that's what he should have been doing! Why does he say it had no objectives? (by the way arent those Ridsales exact words). Here they are for you.

1. A show of unity in opposition to the way the club is being run (Successfully achieved)
2. To highlight the displeasure of the fans to Peter Ridsdale the board (Successfully achieved)
3. To raise the profile of fans displaese and gain maximum publicity in the media (Successfully achieved)

I'm also a member of the trust and I also didn't agree with TLG's opinion of the march, but in the comments I've seen from him, he made it plain it was his own personal opinion and members of the trust could make up their own mind if they wanted to support the march or not. TLG is not the only one of the trust leadership, yet hes the one that gets all the abuse. To me thats totally unfair!

Unfortunately, it's all his own making, we both didnt agree with his opinion, but we didnt go on message boards openly critisising it before and then after the march did we? The only reason that he's the only Trust member getting the abuse is that other Trust members kept their opinions to themselves and quietly respected everyone else's.

Was there any need whatsoever for him to put that message on the board tonight?

I dont know TLG personally, only from on the message boards and Annis books, i have in the past had discussions with him regarding the trust and we both agreed to disagree with certain subjects. He has never done anything to upset me or insult me in anyway and vice versa, but as a trust spokesman i feel his statement has opened a can of worms and truly feel he has dropped a bollock in doing so, im just glad i never joined the trust now.

I think its time to put all this behind us

Its really not getting us anywhere

come on lads

lets move forward

I agree.

I know it seems far off that at the moment.
But in hindsight, it's the best option to go for.

Come on boys!!

Have you seen how he has described the rest of the fans on the march. The Trust is finished.

The Trust is not one elected official and, as you know, many who attended/supported the march are also enthusiastic supporters of the Trust.

Logged on quickly before going to bed and was astonished to see the sniping against TLG on this board which I thought was set up because Annis got fed up of sniping against him on the MM Board.

Whilst I accept that Annis got annoyed with TLG's comments , to make the thread a sticky seems to be way over the top.

And may I say somewhat hypocritical. Not to say an abuse of power

I've more I'd like to say about this, but I'm tired and also frankly bloody annoyed at what I perceive is becoming a witch Hunt against TLG, so perhaps it's a good time to post or I'll get all Annis'disciples sniping at me

And incidentallyI've had some run in's with TLG and his sarky comments in the past so I am certainly no TLG apologist

If I have got time and/or can be bothered I'll post again tomorrow.

I'm also a member of the trust and I also didn't agree with TLG's opinion of the march, but in the comments I've seen from him, he made it plain it was his own personal opinion and members of the trust could make up their own mind if they wanted to support the march or not. TLG is not the only one of the trust leadership, yet hes the one that gets all the abuse. To me thats totally unfair!

Firstly I don't believe telling someone they are doing a bad job in running the Trust amounts to personal abuse, indeed I would call it fair comment when you consider TLG's full conduct over the past few weeks.

Secondly we are always told we need a Trust with more members so that it can represent us with a stronger voice. Yet when it came to making a very important decision, the Trust abdicated that responsibility and put the onus back on the individual fan.

If this is typical of the Trust Boards attitude when the going gets tough then isn't only fair to question what is the point of it?

That is a fair question and frankly falling for TLG's use of the victim card isn't going to get any answers or ensure the same thing doesn't happen again in the future.

TLG, had the opertunity be top guy and somone who most fans respect, and could have gone far amongst fans with his work for the club etc but he comes across on message boards as a complete w****r, he be-littles people, and genrally uses message boards to win online battles

just a shame he does that, thats why most hate him

We have decided to lock this topic, we dont want to turn this forum into a sniping, slanging match, there are persons who have been in the wrong and i am sure will be man enough to admit it.
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WE ARE ALL CARDIFF CITY AND WE ARE ALL ONE!!!!!!!

I agree with Baz, WE ARE ALL CARDIFF CITY. But I will never know why TLG went so low.
I am hurt by his comments, but I have decided to leave it there.

I agree with Baz, WE ARE ALL CARDIFF CITY. But I will never know why TLG went so low.
I am hurt by his comments, but I have decided to leave it there.

What about all the things that have been said about him and the trust on this board though?

Even Caliburn has posted on Mike's board that he was amazed by some of the views and threads on here about TLG

I can't believe this is still a sticky if I'm honest. All certain members on here seem to be doing recently is trying to deter people from joining the trust, and seemingly persuading them to cancel. I think that's awful, and to think of all the hard work Corky and co have put into it. If you and others have a problem with TLG then that's fine, but I don't see what the trust has to do with it.
When the election comes people can vote for someone else, or even stand for election themselves - but this board seems to be doing it's best to divide the fans

I agree with Baz, WE ARE ALL CARDIFF CITY. But I will never know why TLG went so low.
I am hurt by his comments, but I have decided to leave it there.

What about all the things that have been said about him and the trust on this board though?

Even Caliburn has posted on Mike's board that he was amazed by some of the views and threads on here about TLG

I can't believe this is still a sticky if I'm honest. All certain members on here seem to be doing recently is trying to deter people from joining the trust, and seemingly persuading them to cancel. I think that's awful, and to think of all the hard work Corky and co have put into it. If you and others have a problem with TLG then that's fine, but I don't see what the trust has to do with it.
When the election comes people can vote for someone else, or even stand for election themselves - but this board seems to be doing it's best to divide the fans

Why do you really think Corky Resigned ?????, I WILL NOW LEAVE THE SUBJECT THERE FOR GOOD.

I agree with Baz, WE ARE ALL CARDIFF CITY. But I will never know why TLG went so low.
I am hurt by his comments, but I have decided to leave it there.

What about all the things that have been said about him and the trust on this board though?

Even Caliburn has posted on Mike's board that he was amazed by some of the views and threads on here about TLG

I can't believe this is still a sticky if I'm honest. All certain members on here seem to be doing recently is trying to deter people from joining the trust, and seemingly persuading them to cancel. I think that's awful, and to think of all the hard work Corky and co have put into it. If you and others have a problem with TLG then that's fine, but I don't see what the trust has to do with it.
When the election comes people can vote for someone else, or even stand for election themselves - but this board seems to be doing it's best to divide the fans

Why do you really think Corky Resigned ?????, I WILL NOW LEAVE THE SUBJECT THERE FOR GOOD.

Thats hardly fair ...stirring it up and leaving as is.

Corky said he was given advice by a Doctor......I dont think any of us should question that,

If Corky says health then fair enough.

I am not going going to fgo on and on, tlg started the personal slating, WOULD YOU HAVE LIKED IT ? He has prob been locked up more times than me ALL MY GOD IF HE IS LIKE THIS WHEN THE MARCH WAS A SUCH A SUCCESS IMAGINE IF IT HAD GONE WRONG. NO MORE FROM ME ON THE SUBJECT, JUST VERY SAD IT HAS COME TO THIS.