Looks like you boys are going up.

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The liberty is no more mine to claim than legoland is yours to claim. However, as I have pointed out, as a Swansea council tax payer my contributions helped pay for it. The fairy godmother didn't build it!

helped pay for it what an absolute stain you are.

your council tax is prob more used to pay for all the bums in swansea to get their council tax benefit, than put towards funding the liberty.

the vast majority if not all would have come from government grants etc.

do you look at the liberty and think to yourself "i helped build that!!"

you crack me up mush!

the vast majority if not all would have come from government grants etc.

Swansea City moved to the £27m Liberty Stadium in 2005 after the council paid most of the money to build it.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south- ... s-14392589

so tell me, how much did you help out by then? i mean the stadium cost what £27million. im sure the council were sat there thinking "i hope magic daps pays his council tax on time, we really need it to help build a £27million stadium"



youve more than likely being paying for them to re-house a pedo than pay towards a stadium.

You made a spurious claim that the liberty was built for us by the government. Got proved wrong, and then proceed to turn a discussion about the funding of a football stadium into paedophilia.

What is wrong with you?

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

The liberty is no more mine to claim than legoland is yours to claim. However, as I have pointed out, as a Swansea council tax payer my contributions helped pay for it. The fairy godmother didn't build it!

helped pay for it what an absolute stain you are.

your council tax is prob more used to pay for all the bums in swansea to get their council tax benefit, than put towards funding the liberty.

the vast majority if not all would have come from government grants etc.

do you look at the liberty and think to yourself "i helped build that!!"

you crack me up mush!

the vast majority if not all would have come from government grants etc.

Swansea City moved to the £27m Liberty Stadium in 2005 after the council paid most of the money to build it.

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south- ... s-14392589

so tell me, how much did you help out by then? i mean the stadium cost what £27million. im sure the council were sat there thinking "i hope magic daps pays his council tax on time, we really need it to help build a £27million stadium"



youve more than likely being paying for them to re-house a pedo than pay towards a stadium.

You made a spurious claim that the liberty was built for us by the government. Got proved wrong, and then proceed to turn a discussion about the funding of a football stadium into paedophilia.

What is wrong with you?

first of all, i didnt say the government built it.

secondly, whats wrong with me? i live in the real world. i hate paying council tax. really hate it. i dont pay my council tax and then fool myself into thinking its going to a good cause. clearly unlike some people eh! i dont pay mine and then think "oh, ive just helped pay for a park for my daughter to play in"

you have absolutely no idea what your money, the money YOU pay goes towards. you can be naive and think youve just done a good thing when in reality if you could trace the money you pay to the council, the chances are none of it went towards the stadium.

How Council Tax is spentFurther information: Local government in England, Local government in Wales, and Local government in Scotland
Although it is the only tax which is set by local government, the Council Tax contributes only a small proportion (25%, on average) of local government revenue. The majority comes from central government grants and from business rates which are collected centrally and redistributed to local authorities.

Local government provide services such as police, fire, recycling, refuse collection and removal, schools, leisure centres, park and ride schemes, parks and open spaces, street cleaning, subsidising of public transport, tourism, museums, social housing grants, housing and council tax benefits, environmental health and food safety in pubs, restaurants and shops, planning services, support for voluntary groups, meals on wheels, facilities for young people, adapting homes for disabled people, play centres for children, cctv installation, sports facilities, issuing taxi licences, flood defences, and many others.

A significant proportion of local government services are stipulated by central government in the form of statutory provision. Local councils are obliged by law to provide these services. The remainder of services are discretionary and are determined by the local council.

all those things the monies spent on. yet, your council tax was paid by a direct debit straight to the "liberty stadium building fund".

so, how much of the council tax you paid, went towards the liberty stadium Mr Magic "I helped build the liberty" Daps?

These Jacks are claiming that their council tax help build the Liberty. I doubt that very much but for arguments sake lets say some of the money came from the council payer. Now lets look at one of those payers who DONT go to the football, perhaps hates the game and if they are local find the day of the game an inconvience. For this inconvience what does such a tax payer get from the club.

The answer is absolutely nothing because with all its millions now dont pay a penny of rent back to the community. The Jacks should start paying their rent before they start judging any other club.

i must apologise to Daps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Stadium#History

see under history.

i must apologise to Daps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Stadium#History

see under history.

I wish you Jacks would read the posts instead of letting your biased minds divert you.

And I wish you would learn to quote so people know which post(s) you're referring to.

C'est la vie.

read the posts you are quoting against before you jump in with two feet.

Feel free to point out any error I've made.

In your own time obviously.......

The liberty is no more mine to claim than legoland is yours to claim. However, as I have pointed out, as a Swansea council tax payer my contributions helped pay for it. The fairy godmother didn't build it!

When I said you, I meant you as a collective as Swansea City fans, not yourself you fool!

You helped pay for it? Just like my contributions to CCFC helped pay for our stadium then?

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Gareth,

You appear to have avoided my question. I'm sure it wasn't deliberate so here you go.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=100912&start=300#p996512

cant quite believe this thread has gone on so long

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Why dont you live in cardiff then

i must apologise to Daps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Stadium#History

see under history.

best laugh I've had all day mate, cracking that!

These Jacks are claiming that their council tax help build the Liberty. I doubt that very much but for arguments sake lets say some of the money came from the council payer. Now lets look at one of those payers who DONT go to the football, perhaps hates the game and if they are local find the day of the game an inconvience. For this inconvience what does such a tax payer get from the club.

The answer is absolutely nothing because with all its millions now dont pay a penny of rent back to the community. The Jacks should start paying their rent before they start judging any other club.

What a load of crap, of course some people in swansea dont like football, but without doubt the liberty stadium has been great for the whole of swansea. there some things i dont like the council spending money, on does that mean the council should not spend the money, because i dont like it, of course not. You have to look at the bigger picture, and if the tax payers from swansea did not pay for the liberty who did?

West Ham did lose 3-0, but i'm afraid no one will ever take Swansea Town seriously. Small time club and no history.

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Why dont you live in cardiff then

I live and work in Hampshire. I've been in exile since 1989 but keep going back as Cardiff is one of best Cities in UK alongside Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.

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So you were given the land for nothing when instead, the council could have benefited to the tune of millions if the council had sold the land itself to retail developers?

No we were given back the land that we got very little for to build a stadium and retail park that benefits the capital city of Wales. The council were built a nice new athletics stadium and major road improvements as part of the scheme.

The fact you sold the land in the 80's has absolutely no relevance.

It was council owned land that they could have developed themselves and made millions on. Correct?

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They could have developed it themselves but the work done by PMG/CCFC put far more into the local economy than a council effort would have done. It also put more into Ridsdale's back pocket allegedly but we wont go into that.....

i must apologise to Daps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Stadium#History

see under history.

Crying with laughter here.

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Why dont you live in cardiff then

I live and work in Hampshire. I've been in exile since 1989 but keep going back as Cardiff is one of best Cities in UK alongside Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.

So Gareth(wilts), you live and work in Hampshire? Think someone needs to update their username.

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Why dont you live in cardiff then

I live and work in Hampshire. I've been in exile since 1989 but keep going back as Cardiff is one of best Cities in UK alongside Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.

So Gareth(wilts), you live and work in Hampshire? Think someone needs to update their username.

I live and work in sunny Hampshire but lived in Wiltshire for a number of years and am known to many CCFC fans as Gareth from Wiltshire (you JBs obviously call me other things) so don't feel the need to change plus i cannot be bothered/don't know if i can change names-nothing worse than those on here who have numerous names etc

These Jacks are claiming that their council tax help build the Liberty. I doubt that very much but for arguments sake lets say some of the money came from the council payer. Now lets look at one of those payers who DONT go to the football, perhaps hates the game and if they are local find the day of the game an inconvience. For this inconvience what does such a tax payer get from the club.

The answer is absolutely nothing because with all its millions now dont pay a penny of rent back to the community. The Jacks should start paying their rent before they start judging any other club.

What a load of crap, of course some people in swansea dont like football, but without doubt the liberty stadium has been great for the whole of swansea. there some things i dont like the council spending money, on does that mean the council should not spend the money, because i dont like it, of course not. You have to look at the bigger picture, and if the tax payers from swansea did not pay for the liberty who did?

Please try and keep up at the back..

and if the tax payers from swansea did not pay for the liberty who did?

Everybody knows the government built it for us. They felt sorry for us playing at the vetch, and rather than giving £50 million to the NHS or the schools they decided to build us a stadium instead.

Ps, fair play daft that was very funny. I'm famous at last!

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Why dont you live in cardiff then

I live and work in Hampshire. I've been in exile since 1989 but keep going back as Cardiff is one of best Cities in UK alongside Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.

So you couldn't find a decent job in cardiff is that what you are saying. What has cardiff got that you can't get in bristol, manchester, liverpool, leeds,belfast etc

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Why dont you live in cardiff then

I live and work in Hampshire. I've been in exile since 1989 but keep going back as Cardiff is one of best Cities in UK alongside Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.

So Gareth(wilts), you live and work in Hampshire? Think someone needs to update their username.

I was thinking that too. what a tool.

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Why dont you live in cardiff then

I live and work in Hampshire. I've been in exile since 1989 but keep going back as Cardiff is one of best Cities in UK alongside Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.

So you couldn't find a decent job in cardiff is that what you are saying. What has cardiff got that you can't get in bristol, manchester, liverpool, leeds,belfast etc

And newcastle is over rated

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Why dont you live in cardiff then

I live and work in Hampshire. I've been in exile since 1989 but keep going back as Cardiff is one of best Cities in UK alongside Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.

So you couldn't find a decent job in cardiff is that what you are saying. What has cardiff got that you can't get in bristol, manchester, liverpool, leeds,belfast etc

Why don't you live in Swansea?!

Seriously, what a ridiculous and pathetic argument.

Hi
West Ham fan here. Glad to see you boys are doing the business this time round. Keep it up please.
You are the only proper club in Wales unlike that other insignificant village team down the road from you.

The same insignificant village team that trounced you 3-0?

Trounced!!!!!Own goal wasnt it and 2 defensive howlers. Obviously Swansea Town (est 1985 and again in 2003) had 250% of possession and tore west ham 4 new arseholes.

Get over yourself daps your second city (large town in reality) syndrome is tearing you apart inside. Cardiff is your capital and Wales biggest football club is coming to the Premier League Party.

Why dont you live in cardiff then

I live and work in Hampshire. I've been in exile since 1989 but keep going back as Cardiff is one of best Cities in UK alongside Newcastle, Edinburgh and London.

So you couldn't find a decent job in cardiff is that what you are saying. What has cardiff got that you can't get in bristol, manchester, liverpool, leeds,belfast etc

Due to family reasons I have not tried to get a job in Cardiff although with the qualifications I have I would probably be able to find a reasonable job but i have 4 children and due to schooling I am not prepared to move them with important exams coming up.. Bristol and Liverpool are smack ridden hell holes (abit like Kidwelly only alot bigger)

West Ham did lose 3-0, but i'm afraid no one will ever take Swansea Town seriously. Small time club and no history.

west ham fan, of course you are.

gareth, you have destroyed your own argument, tut tut.

gareth, you have destroyed your own argument, tut tut.

Whatever......