' POLL ' How would you vote on eu today?

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Just breaking on sky news. £59 billion was shift out of the uk economy and placed in other European countries. That was just March. April may will probably be higher. Before people didn't know what would happen with leave will this is a big clue even before we vote £59 billion Stirling has been taken out of the economy.

Serious stuff.

To put this into context, the support provided to British banks by the government during the banking crisis was in excess of £900 billion .

Haha what's that got to do with companies shifting £59 billion pounds in Europe??

Come on mark this is bad news a silly silly comparison. I could say I. Comparison to that 900 billion you could have bough bhs for a £. Absolutly no relevance at all.

This was the first statistically accurate fact so far in whole debate.

I see Boris and Gove have asked for a live tv debate with Cameron. Be interesting to see if he accepts as these appear to be the main players in this whole debate. I think it would help a lot of neutrals make up their mind as well.

I watched Dodgy Dave giving his "Please listen to me" sermon this morning which for me is the first sign that he thinks that "Leave" may well win the day in this referendum. His claim that he felt "Moved" to act after watching the news last night shouldn't be seen as an epiphany but more a serious bowel movement as he can see his political career collapsing before his eyes.

I don't think he will want to go head to head with Michael Gove because within 5 minutes you will see who has the superior intellect between the two, Boris on the other hand has personality but struggles to get a consistent message across.

I think Farage will say something outrageous tonight and the debate will get dragged down by him, he just won't be able to stop himself.

I would just like someone in this debate to answer the question if the UK is at risk of losing millions of jobs what would the effect on the EU, Germany in particular, be if the UK votes to leave. There is one absolute fact in ALL of this and that is the UK has for nearly 40 years suffered with a balances of payments deficit fuelled by a strong demand by almost anything than can be imported (German cars and White Goods etc). So if access to the huge demand from the UK is closed off "How many jobs will be lost in Germany" and will the German government sit back and do nothing

As the saying goes Hmmmmmmm

If this is the scenario after the vote it will obviously trigger another referendum on Scottish independence and also possibly a a referendum in northern Ireland on an united Ireland. NI has the largest percentage of 'remain' of any region. Where would that leave Wales? Stuck with little Englanders until we wake up and take our future into our own hands>

It would be a very messy situation indeed.

I wonder how many of those campaigning for Brexit were against Scotland leaving the UK. A large proportion I would imagine.

I wasn't and to this day I think Scotland made a huge mistake in not voting to leave the UK. I really hope that Scotland does push for a second referendum if we vote to leave the EU and this time take the right decision.

Scotland wouldn't survive out of the union they based There whole economic plan on oil being over 200 pound a barrel

They would survive. But let's them decide shall me. Almost like you sticking you nose in to something that don't concern you. Bit like interfering eu you can't stand lol. What a hypocrite you are.
Stick to you silly little biased posters with about as much substance as a fart. You minding of good at that. Copying and pasting like a robot. Oh no did I say robot again. Oh well if the cap fits.

There is no doubt if we leave there will be in losses.
There will be at least two years of turmoil.

A bit like the recessions we have every 7 to 10 years.

There are many links with Europe. We are a huge importer as well as exporter.
Southern Europe will rely on Us holiday makers. Northern Europe on manufacturing.

The balance won't favour anyone. British or European.

Wales will hurt more than most. But we need to fight the London domination.

I'm in favour of Wales becoming a low tax country. Brining in trade and jobs.
Get us all working Not shirking

Give us aspiration and inspiration.

f**k the European begging bowl. Let's get our balls out

Most of Wales classed as the poorest areas of Europe ffs!
It shows England has shat on us and being in Europe has shown it.
Let's re-direct the billions of pounds of waste and create a future for our kids and grandkids

There is no doubt if we leave there will be in losses.
There will be at least two years of turmoil.

A bit like the recessions we have every 7 to 10 years.

There are many links with Europe. We are a huge importer as well as exporter.
Southern Europe will rely on Us holiday makers. Northern Europe on manufacturing.

The balance won't favour anyone. British or European.

Wales will hurt more than most. But we need to fight the London domination.

I'm in favour of Wales becoming a low tax country. Brining in trade and jobs.
Get us all working Not shirking

Give us aspiration and inspiration.

f**k the European begging bowl. Let's get our balls out

Most of Wales classed as the poorest areas of Europe ffs!
It shows England has shat on us and being in Europe has shown it.
Let's re-direct the billions of pounds of waste and create a future for our kids and grandkids

Great post

If this is the scenario after the vote it will obviously trigger another referendum on Scottish independence and also possibly a a referendum in northern Ireland on an united Ireland. NI has the largest percentage of 'remain' of any region. Where would that leave Wales? Stuck with little Englanders until we wake up and take our future into our own hands>

It would be a very messy situation indeed.

I wonder how many of those campaigning for Brexit were against Scotland leaving the UK. A large proportion I would imagine.

I wasn't and to this day I think Scotland made a huge mistake in not voting to leave the UK. I really hope that Scotland does push for a second referendum if we vote to leave the EU and this time take the right decision.

Scotland wouldn't survive out of the union they based There whole economic plan on oil being over 200 pound a barrel

They would survive. But let's them decide shall me. Almost like you sticking you nose in to something that don't concern you. Bit like interfering eu you can't stand lol. What a hypocrite you are.
Stick to you silly little biased posters with about as much substance as a fart. You minding of good at that. Copying and pasting like a robot. Oh no did I say robot again. Oh well if the cap fits.

looks like I've won the debate with you

If this is the scenario after the vote it will obviously trigger another referendum on Scottish independence and also possibly a a referendum in northern Ireland on an united Ireland. NI has the largest percentage of 'remain' of any region. Where would that leave Wales? Stuck with little Englanders until we wake up and take our future into our own hands>

It would be a very messy situation indeed.

I wonder how many of those campaigning for Brexit were against Scotland leaving the UK. A large proportion I would imagine.

I wasn't and to this day I think Scotland made a huge mistake in not voting to leave the UK. I really hope that Scotland does push for a second referendum if we vote to leave the EU and this time take the right decision.

Scotland wouldn't survive out of the union they based There whole economic plan on oil being over 200 pound a barrel

They would survive. But let's them decide shall me. Almost like you sticking you nose in to something that don't concern you. Bit like interfering eu you can't stand lol. What a hypocrite you are.
Stick to you silly little biased posters with about as much substance as a fart. You minding of good at that. Copying and pasting like a robot. Oh no did I say robot again. Oh well if the cap fits.

This one is definitely for you ,keep being the eu puppet:lol:

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If this is the scenario after the vote it will obviously trigger another referendum on Scottish independence and also possibly a a referendum in northern Ireland on an united Ireland. NI has the largest percentage of 'remain' of any region. Where would that leave Wales? Stuck with little Englanders until we wake up and take our future into our own hands>

It would be a very messy situation indeed.

I wonder how many of those campaigning for Brexit were against Scotland leaving the UK. A large proportion I would imagine.

I wasn't and to this day I think Scotland made a huge mistake in not voting to leave the UK. I really hope that Scotland does push for a second referendum if we vote to leave the EU and this time take the right decision.

Scotland wouldn't survive out of the union they based There whole economic plan on oil being over 200 pound a barrel

They would survive. But let's them decide shall me. Almost like you sticking you nose in to something that don't concern you. Bit like interfering eu you can't stand lol. What a hypocrite you are.
Stick to you silly little biased posters with about as much substance as a fart. You minding of good at that. Copying and pasting like a robot. Oh no did I say robot again. Oh well if the cap fits.

This one is definitely for you ,keep being the eu puppet:lol:

Bless little wez and his colourful posters. Simple things for simple minds. Have you ever had an independent thought youself??

It's ok I wait for you to scour the internet looking for you answer. There an easier way you know trying saying what you feel youself. I know easy for me to say as I don't know how brain washed you been. There maybe no I depend thoughts left.

But let us know when you worked it out.

If this is the scenario after the vote it will obviously trigger another referendum on Scottish independence and also possibly a a referendum in northern Ireland on an united Ireland. NI has the largest percentage of 'remain' of any region. Where would that leave Wales? Stuck with little Englanders until we wake up and take our future into our own hands>

It would be a very messy situation indeed.

I wonder how many of those campaigning for Brexit were against Scotland leaving the UK. A large proportion I would imagine.

I wasn't and to this day I think Scotland made a huge mistake in not voting to leave the UK. I really hope that Scotland does push for a second referendum if we vote to leave the EU and this time take the right decision.

Scotland wouldn't survive out of the union they based There whole economic plan on oil being over 200 pound a barrel

They would survive. But let's them decide shall me. Almost like you sticking you nose in to something that don't concern you. Bit like interfering eu you can't stand lol. What a hypocrite you are.
Stick to you silly little biased posters with about as much substance as a fart. You minding of good at that. Copying and pasting like a robot. Oh no did I say robot again. Oh well if the cap fits.

This one is definitely for you ,keep being the eu puppet:lol:

Bless little wez and his colourful posters. Simple things for simple minds. Have you ever had an independent thought youself??

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Just as I thought. No independent thoughts left in you. Lol. My 15 month old has a better grasp on independent thoughts that you do.

Just as I thought. No independent thoughts left in you. Lol. My 15 month old has a better grasp on independent thoughts that you do.

Your the eu puppet

Re: trade, nothing will change. Audi, BMW, and the French wine trade will demand free access to the Brit market, our trade deficit with the EU is huge..

Just as I thought. No independent thoughts left in you. Lol. My 15 month old has a better grasp on independent thoughts that you do.

Your the eu puppet

Please give me one post that you thought up open you own. It can't be that hard surely.

Just as I thought. No independent thoughts left in you. Lol. My 15 month old has a better grasp on independent thoughts that you do.

Your the eu puppet

Please give me one post that you thought up open you own. It can't be that hard surely.

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Haha. You just can't do it can you.

One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

Fed up of repeating my opinion, all you need to know is vote out stop being a brainwashed eu puppet

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OUT

One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

Haha. Maybe just maybe. I won't hold my breath though.

One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

Haha. Maybe just maybe. I won't hold my breath though.

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One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

Haha. Maybe just maybe. I won't hold my breath though.

We thank you. That was the 500th post and you helped me win my bet. You might have thought in a eu puppet. But all along I was pulling you strings. You personally made this an easy win bet for me ty wez for being under my control. My little puppet wez ty. I can't wait to claim my prize now.

If this is the scenario after the vote it will obviously trigger another referendum on Scottish independence and also possibly a a referendum in northern Ireland on an united Ireland. NI has the largest percentage of 'remain' of any region. Where would that leave Wales? Stuck with little Englanders until we wake up and take our future into our own hands>

Best most sensible post of all.

One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

Haha. Maybe just maybe. I won't hold my breath though.

We thank you. That was the 500th post and you helped me win my bet. You might have thought in a eu puppet. But all along I was pulling you strings. You personally made this an easy win bet for me ty wez for being under my control. My little puppet wez ty. I can't wait to claim my prize now.

One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

Haha. Maybe just maybe. I won't hold my breath though.

We thank you. That was the 500th post and you helped me win my bet. You might have thought in a eu puppet. But all along I was pulling you strings. You personally made this an easy win bet for me ty wez for being under my control. My little puppet wez ty. I can't wait to claim my prize now.

aww I feel bad now for what ive done to wes lol he refusing to post anymore. im sorry wes but I wanted my prize and you to easy to control. sorry I will prey on the weak in quest for victory.

One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

Haha. Maybe just maybe. I won't hold my breath though.

We thank you. That was the 500th post and you helped me win my bet. You might have thought in a eu puppet. But all along I was pulling you strings. You personally made this an easy win bet for me ty wez for being under my control. My little puppet wez ty. I can't wait to claim my prize now.

aww I feel bad now for what ive done to wes lol he refusing to post anymore. im sorry wes but I wanted my prize and you to easy to control. sorry I will prey on the weak in quest for victory.

You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.

One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

Haha. Maybe just maybe. I won't hold my breath though.

We thank you. That was the 500th post and you helped me win my bet. You might have thought in a eu puppet. But all along I was pulling you strings. You personally made this an easy win bet for me ty wez for being under my control. My little puppet wez ty. I can't wait to claim my prize now.

aww I feel bad now for what ive done to wes lol he refusing to post anymore. im sorry wes but I wanted my prize and you to easy to control. sorry I will prey on the weak in quest for victory.

lol like I said this thread was for a bet to get to 500. people can vote for who ever they want I wont be voting not worth the walk to the polling station for what will make next to no difference which ever way it goes.

I think remain will win but that's only based on what the bookies say. if poll card was brought to me id probably vote to leave but may not even vote then.

there you go

the eu ref is pointless and

roll on the euros I say

There are a number of concerns.

I would rather the British electorate decide who ultimately governs Britain, rather than unelected Europeans deciding what happens to OUR country.

It is undemocratic for EU leaders to be unelected. The vast majority of British people would have no idea who these leaders are, which political leaning they have or whose pocket they are in. They appear to make sweeping decisions on open borders and immigration without taking ANY responsibility.

The way the EU bent over backwards to bail out Greece to keep them in the EU, yet the EU were reluctant to make even the most minor of concessions to Britain during Cameron's negotiations. That smacks of hypocrisy.

If you look at different attitudes, cultures, beliefs and values of people within Cardiff. There will be differences.
Compare them with people from different cities, towns and villages around Wales, England and the rest of Britain. You will see some great differences.
Then compare them with people from different countries - how do YOUR attitudes, culture, beliefs and values differ to someone and large groups of people in France, Estonia, Lithuania, Hungary, Latvia or Germany.

OUR values, cultures, beliefs and attitudes will differ massively.

How can we be so close to accepting Turkey and considering Albania when those people have vastly different cultures, etc.

They will be able to travel freely throughout the EU and that will include Britain IF we vote to remain.

I'll await the racist comments, but Turkey has a population of nearly 80 million people, over half of 25-34 year olds have not been educated to high school. The numbers are far higher with the older demographics.

Between 96.4 and 99.8% of the population are Muslim, that is between 77 and 80 million Muslims of who, over half a poorly or very poorly educated.

We have seen Turkey's appalling Human Right's records, seen how their football 'fans' behave, including the burning down of a stadium because the team got relegated and how they treat others who think differently to them.

We have seen how many millions of Muslims reacted to the Copenhagen comic picture of Mohamed.

Within the last few years within Turkey and including the current President Erdogan, there have been changes that have made it become more Islamised. The burkha had been banned previously from the times of Ataturk in the 1920's. It has been re-introduced and accepted since 2012. President Erdogan is pushing very hard to overturn nearly 100 years of Ataturk control of Islam and trying to get Islam to be at the heart of Turkey's constitution.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/04 ... stitution/

Turkey, as most will know is the gateway between Europe and the middle East, with war torn Syria on its border.

Having Turkey as a member of EU means that the ONLY true border between the EU and the middle East is between Turkey and Syria and we have seen how transparent that border is.

IF Erdogan and his AKP party become even more powerful, then who is to say that in 3, 5, 10 or 20 years time they will actively encourage the likes of ISIS to proliferate within its borders and to infiltrate the whole of the EU.

Erdogan and his party are already megalomaniacs.

What are their plans for a future Europe ?

One day Wez might be able to convey his own opinion through the medium of text, rather than pretty pictures (that are mostly bollocks)

Haha. Maybe just maybe. I won't hold my breath though.

We thank you. That was the 500th post and you helped me win my bet. You might have thought in a eu puppet. But all along I was pulling you strings. You personally made this an easy win bet for me ty wez for being under my control. My little puppet wez ty. I can't wait to claim my prize now.

aww I feel bad now for what ive done to wes lol he refusing to post anymore. im sorry wes but I wanted my prize and you to easy to control. sorry I will prey on the weak in quest for victory.

lol like I said this thread was for a bet to get to 500. people can vote for who ever they want I wont be voting not worth the walk to the polling station for what will make next to no difference which ever way it goes.

I think remain will win but that's only based on what the bookies say. if poll card was brought to me id probably vote to leave but may not even vote then.

there you go

the eu ref is pointless and

roll on the euros I say

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Please don't stop debating just because of me.

Come wez. There must be more posters to spam??