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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Wed Oct 09, 2024 1:58 pm

Who on this MB (if anyone) watched Wales play in Israel? What was your opinion of the country?

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:40 pm

Cardiff Exile wrote:Who on this MB (if anyone) watched Wales play in Israel? What was your opinion of the country?



I travelled there a group of 15 of us in 2015 to watch Wales. You are questioned beyond when you arrive and if you have any Arab stamps in your passport you are taken aside and seriously questioned and not respected at all. Suddenly you have no rights, they keep you in a room and then decide. We were all eventually allowed in, yet attitude was dreadful.

Once in Tel Aviv as a tourist and say British, welcomed. We did a tour and travelled over to Jerusalem,that was an eye opener.
Palestinians were treated like second clsss citizens and were not allowed to walk on the same side as an Israeli or use the same plublic transport. It brought me back to the dark days of South Africa when apartheid rule, and subjected Black people to systematically segregationist laws and practices, with black people had no rights at all.

It was an eye opener and I never thought that existed in this day and age. Once we returned to Tel Aviv it was back to a different world as though none of this was ever happening and as long as we spent our money as tourists we were welcomed.
Would I go back? No as I saw the dark side of the real Israel.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:56 pm

Some IDF soldiers talking of open rebellion and could refuse to fight if negotiations for hostage release don't take place!

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Wed Oct 09, 2024 2:59 pm

pembroke allan wrote:Some IDF soldiers talking of open rebellion and could refuse to fight if negotiations for hostage release don't take place!



Allan,

From day one they said this was about getting the hostages back and they could of saved all their lives, but the Israeli Govt have not been interested at all, all they want to do is destroy Gaza.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Wed Oct 09, 2024 5:04 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Some IDF soldiers talking of open rebellion and could refuse to fight if negotiations for hostage release don't take place!



Allan,

From day one they said this was about getting the hostages back and they could of saved all their lives, but the Israeli Govt have not been interested at all, all they want to do is destroy Gaza.



Now it's Lebanon! Is our friend OK?

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:56 am

*Breaking News*


Israel has been declared an illegal state by the International Court of Justice. It was also decided that it should not be recognized as a sovereign nation worldwide. In the end, justice prevailed.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:01 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Some IDF soldiers talking of open rebellion and could refuse to fight if negotiations for hostage release don't take place!



Allan,

From day one they said this was about getting the hostages back and they could of saved all their lives, but the Israeli Govt have not been interested at all, all they want to do is destroy Gaza.



Now it's Lebanon! Is our friend OK?



Yes he is Thanks Allan.

Thankfully he lives a long way from all the troubles as Israel now decides on another Country to Massacre.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:05 am

In The Hague, The Highest Court in the World :
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 6:27 am

Well under The Hague / International Law Israel should immediately leave but USA & Israel have suddenly become their own law and ignore everything and are the Real Terrorists
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 12:27 pm

More and more of the TRUTH is coming out that ISRAEL is Committing GENOCIDE in GAZA and The World must NEVER ever forget:
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:10 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Some IDF soldiers talking of open rebellion and could refuse to fight if negotiations for hostage release don't take place!



Allan,

From day one they said this was about getting the hostages back and they could of saved all their lives, but the Israeli Govt have not been interested at all, all they want to do is destroy Gaza.



Now it's Lebanon! Is our friend OK?



Yes he is Thanks Allan.

Thankfully he lives a long way from all the troubles as Israel now decides on another Country to Massacre.



That's good to hear Annis... now let's see if the UN got say balls as they have said IDF have deliberately shot at UN post taking out security cameras and used tank to destroy look out post injuring two soldiers.... this is a criminal offence under UN charter so UN should be sanctioning Netanyahu for war crime for what they've done.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:12 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Some IDF soldiers talking of open rebellion and could refuse to fight if negotiations for hostage release don't take place!



Allan,

From day one they said this was about getting the hostages back and they could of saved all their lives, but the Israeli Govt have not been interested at all, all they want to do is destroy Gaza.



Now it's Lebanon! Is our friend OK?



Yes he is Thanks Allan.

Thankfully he lives a long way from all the troubles as Israel now decides on another Country to Massacre.



That's good to hear Annis... now let's see if the UN got say balls as they have said IDF have deliberately shot at UN post taking out security cameras and used tank to destroy look out post injuring two soldiers.... this is a criminal offence under UN charter so UN should be sanctioning Netanyahu for war crime for what they've done.




It is Allan, But like you say we now need Action.

War Crimes and All the Commanders of Israel’s Govt & IDF Brought to Justice.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 2:47 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Some IDF soldiers talking of open rebellion and could refuse to fight if negotiations for hostage release don't take place!



Allan,

From day one they said this was about getting the hostages back and they could of saved all their lives, but the Israeli Govt have not been interested at all, all they want to do is destroy Gaza.



Now it's Lebanon! Is our friend OK?



Yes he is Thanks Allan.

Thankfully he lives a long way from all the troubles as Israel now decides on another Country to Massacre.



That's good to hear Annis... now let's see if the UN got say balls as they have said IDF have deliberately shot at UN post taking out security cameras and used tank to destroy look out post injuring two soldiers.... this is a criminal offence under UN charter so UN should be sanctioning Netanyahu for war crime for what they've done.




It is Allan, But like you say we now need Action.

War Crimes and All the Commanders of Israel’s Govt & IDF Brought to Justice.



Not even usa can get Israel out of thos as its factual from UN.... but I suspect nothing be said or done by anyone it will be like all their other atrocities they'll simply disappear into oblivion

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:56 pm

I just wish it could be like this and Israel accepted that a Palestinian life was worth as much as an Israeli life .
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 4:58 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Some IDF soldiers talking of open rebellion and could refuse to fight if negotiations for hostage release don't take place!



Allan,

From day one they said this was about getting the hostages back and they could of saved all their lives, but the Israeli Govt have not been interested at all, all they want to do is destroy Gaza.



Now it's Lebanon! Is our friend OK?



Yes he is Thanks Allan.

Thankfully he lives a long way from all the troubles as Israel now decides on another Country to Massacre.



That's good to hear Annis... now let's see if the UN got say balls as they have said IDF have deliberately shot at UN post taking out security cameras and used tank to destroy look out post injuring two soldiers.... this is a criminal offence under UN charter so UN should be sanctioning Netanyahu for war crime for what they've done.




It is Allan, But like you say we now need Action.

War Crimes and All the Commanders of Israel’s Govt & IDF Brought to Justice.



Not even usa can get Israel out of thos as its factual from UN.... but I suspect nothing be said or done by anyone it will be like all their other atrocities they'll simply disappear into oblivion




And it’s All in LAW Now Allan, Can’t the USA see this and Stop sending money and bombs to Massacre innocent Palestinians.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 5:34 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Some IDF soldiers talking of open rebellion and could refuse to fight if negotiations for hostage release don't take place!



Allan,

From day one they said this was about getting the hostages back and they could of saved all their lives, but the Israeli Govt have not been interested at all, all they want to do is destroy Gaza.



Now it's Lebanon! Is our friend OK?



Yes he is Thanks Allan.

Thankfully he lives a long way from all the troubles as Israel now decides on another Country to Massacre.



That's good to hear Annis... now let's see if the UN got say balls as they have said IDF have deliberately shot at UN post taking out security cameras and used tank to destroy look out post injuring two soldiers.... this is a criminal offence under UN charter so UN should be sanctioning Netanyahu for war crime for what they've done.




It is Allan, But like you say we now need Action.

War Crimes and All the Commanders of Israel’s Govt & IDF Brought to Justice.



Not even usa can get Israel out of thos as its factual from UN.... but I suspect nothing be said or done by anyone it will be like all their other atrocities they'll simply disappear into oblivion




And it’s All in LAW Now Allan, Can’t the USA see this and Stop sending money and bombs to Massacre innocent Palestinians.




Biden and Netanyahu spoke other day and all they spoke about was how going to bomb Iran? No one is going to do anything because they're blind to Israels atrocities! What did in gaza is what they're going to do in Lebanon.... they are using same language and usa just said that's OK as long as that's all you doing so no action will be taken even after Israel has destroyed beruit completely .. I hope Iran destroys hiefa completely and drag usa into a war they don't want.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 8:46 pm

We don’t want a world war, Pembroke Allan. Or do we?

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Thu Oct 10, 2024 10:09 pm

Cardiff Exile wrote:We don’t want a world war, Pembroke Allan. Or do we?





No but Israel couldn't care less because they know their poodle "USA" will make sure they're OK while rest can go to hell .... no matter the provocation with what hamas did there is no excuse for attacking hospitals medical staff and now UN peacekeepers all of which are war crimes as stated by UN... where is the usa UK ect regarding sanctions against Netanyahu and IDF? Israel has persistently used same language and excuses for attacking civilians 43k dead and that's OK as far as USA. EU.. UK are concerned as long as Israel are OK? So at rate Israel are destroying sovereign countries ww3 is a possibility only takes one mistake ...

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:56 am

Israel has currently 170 Reporters locked up for just doing their job and trying to Report the Truth:

For 9 months now Sky / BBC / CNN or any International Reporter has been Banned from entering Gaza as Israel is trying to hide the Genocide they have done.

All The Truth will come out in the end and Israel will be remembered for Massacres and Genocide.


This is just part of Gaza what Israel & The USA have done and are still doing it.
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:24 am

It was Palestine in 1927
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 9:31 am

Israel as no intentions if stopping in dough Lebanon when they've destroyed that area they’ll move on to next part ans fo forth until all Beirut is destroyed like gaza.... they are telling UN troops to move 3 miles back exactly same going doing with civilians... when need to it will be move another 3miles for safety ect ect.. USA defence secretary is saying nothing to Netanyahu regarding attacks on UN troops ... other nations condemned Israel but that's it no plans to sanction it be interesting to see what they do if kill UN troops because they've already committed war crimes as announced by UN.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:34 am

I don’t think enough people realise how bad it is or many are chosen to ignore or listen to much of the Media with their lies:


If youre a Palestinian citizen of the only democracy, and you happen to call for a ceasefire or post a TikTok showing your dress, the police will arrest u, force u to stand in front of the flag, and send your pic to the Hitlerite youth Telegram gcs to rally the public against you :cry:
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 11:36 am

pembroke allan wrote:Israel as no intentions if stopping in dough Lebanon when they've destroyed that area they’ll move on to next part ans fo forth until all Beirut is destroyed like gaza.... they are telling UN troops to move 3 miles back exactly same going doing with civilians... when need to it will be move another 3miles for safety ect ect.. USA defence secretary is saying nothing to Netanyahu regarding attacks on UN troops ... other nations condemned Israel but that's it no plans to sanction it be interesting to see what they do if kill UN troops because they've already committed war crimes as announced by UN.



Sadly Allan they know they can Mass Murder Now and Destroy anything they want as USA backs them No Matter what.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 12:10 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Israel as no intentions if stopping in dough Lebanon when they've destroyed that area they’ll move on to next part ans fo forth until all Beirut is destroyed like gaza.... they are telling UN troops to move 3 miles back exactly same going doing with civilians... when need to it will be move another 3miles for safety ect ect.. USA defence secretary is saying nothing to Netanyahu regarding attacks on UN troops ... other nations condemned Israel but that's it no plans to sanction it be interesting to see what they do if kill UN troops because they've already committed war crimes as announced by UN.



Sadly Allan they know they can Mass Murder Now and Destroy anything they want as USA backs them No Matter what.



Annis having read more this morning it's becoming obvious that it's all words no action is planned against Israel? All we are getting is same lies from Israel that we are minimising casualties but civilians being used as Sheild so its hamas isbollah fault...... now countries want explanation for firing on UN troops? doesn't need explanation it was deliberate and a war crime but again Isreal blaming isbollah for being oclose to troops ...
I would love Iran to unleash thousands of rockets on heifa and tel aviv and kill thousands of their people to see what its like being bombed and wipe smug smile off Netanyahu and his cronies faces..

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 6:56 pm

As day gone on lot of countries critisising Israel but. None prepared yo say boo to them they're just happy to say need to find peace solution by both sides? In other words they've bottled it and prepared to do nothing despite them calling actions war crimes. What will happen is UN will do as Israel asks and move out way and allow Israel to destroy more of Beirut whilst telling Israel not to be so nasty to people

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:56 pm

BBC

Tonight More Truth coming out:

Israeli IDF shooting Palestinian Children and this little Palestinian girl was shot and thankfully now recovering.

Israel are now just targeting Palestinian Civilians for No reason at all other than to kill as many as possible.

Israel now are just clearing out areas and making room for more Israeli people this is what it’s been about since 1947
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Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 7:59 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Israel as no intentions if stopping in dough Lebanon when they've destroyed that area they’ll move on to next part ans fo forth until all Beirut is destroyed like gaza.... they are telling UN troops to move 3 miles back exactly same going doing with civilians... when need to it will be move another 3miles for safety ect ect.. USA defence secretary is saying nothing to Netanyahu regarding attacks on UN troops ... other nations condemned Israel but that's it no plans to sanction it be interesting to see what they do if kill UN troops because they've already committed war crimes as announced by UN.



Sadly Allan they know they can Mass Murder Now and Destroy anything they want as USA backs them No Matter what.



Annis having read more this morning it's becoming obvious that it's all words no action is planned against Israel? All we are getting is same lies from Israel that we are minimising casualties but civilians being used as Sheild so its hamas isbollah fault...... now countries want explanation for firing on UN troops? doesn't need explanation it was deliberate and a war crime but again Isreal blaming isbollah for being oclose to troops ...
I would love Iran to unleash thousands of rockets on heifa and tel aviv and kill thousands of their people to see what its like being bombed and wipe smug smile off Netanyahu and his cronies faces..




Allan,

Israel have virtually been given the green light to virtually massacre and finish of the Palestinians by the USA

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:24 pm

Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Israel as no intentions if stopping in dough Lebanon when they've destroyed that area they’ll move on to next part ans fo forth until all Beirut is destroyed like gaza.... they are telling UN troops to move 3 miles back exactly same going doing with civilians... when need to it will be move another 3miles for safety ect ect.. USA defence secretary is saying nothing to Netanyahu regarding attacks on UN troops ... other nations condemned Israel but that's it no plans to sanction it be interesting to see what they do if kill UN troops because they've already committed war crimes as announced by UN.



Sadly Allan they know they can Mass Murder Now and Destroy anything they want as USA backs them No Matter what.



Annis having read more this morning it's becoming obvious that it's all words no action is planned against Israel? All we are getting is same lies from Israel that we are minimising casualties but civilians being used as Sheild so its hamas isbollah fault...... now countries want explanation for firing on UN troops? doesn't need explanation it was deliberate and a war crime but again Isreal blaming isbollah for being oclose to troops ...
I would love Iran to unleash thousands of rockets on heifa and tel aviv and kill thousands of their people to see what its like being bombed and wipe smug smile off Netanyahu and his cronies faces..




Allan,

Israel have virtually been given the green light to virtually massacre and finish of the Palestinians by the USA



I agree and it's not only usa UK using same language as yanks we condemned the action but there needs to be peace? Well won't get it from Israel so who they talking about.... and rest of Europe ect ect all condemning Israel but not willing to do anything about it and they won't ... all cowards and scared of the power Jews have in their countries.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:32 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Forever Blue wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Israel as no intentions if stopping in dough Lebanon when they've destroyed that area they’ll move on to next part ans fo forth until all Beirut is destroyed like gaza.... they are telling UN troops to move 3 miles back exactly same going doing with civilians... when need to it will be move another 3miles for safety ect ect.. USA defence secretary is saying nothing to Netanyahu regarding attacks on UN troops ... other nations condemned Israel but that's it no plans to sanction it be interesting to see what they do if kill UN troops because they've already committed war crimes as announced by UN.



Sadly Allan they know they can Mass Murder Now and Destroy anything they want as USA backs them No Matter what.



Annis having read more this morning it's becoming obvious that it's all words no action is planned against Israel? All we are getting is same lies from Israel that we are minimising casualties but civilians being used as Sheild so its hamas isbollah fault...... now countries want explanation for firing on UN troops? doesn't need explanation it was deliberate and a war crime but again Isreal blaming isbollah for being oclose to troops ...
I would love Iran to unleash thousands of rockets on heifa and tel aviv and kill thousands of their people to see what its like being bombed and wipe smug smile off Netanyahu and his cronies faces..




Allan,

Israel have virtually been given the green light to virtually massacre and finish of the Palestinians by the USA



I agree and it's not only usa UK using same language as yanks we condemned the action but there needs to be peace? Well won't get it from Israel so who they talking about.... and rest of Europe ect ect all condemning Israel but not willing to do anything about it and they won't ... all cowards and scared of the power Jews have in their countries.






Your are so right Allan,NO one is willing to Say to Israel Stop these Barbaric Massacres.

Re: Confirmed: Shocking / Unbelievable / Been Going on for M

Fri Oct 11, 2024 8:41 pm

So terrbly wrong and sad that 17,000 young Palestian children killed by Israel. All lives should be of equal value no matter what nationality. I feel ashamed that UK is providing arms.

Israel ignores ‘advice’ from its allies and continues to escalate its killing and land grabbing…. Yet we continue to supply arms. Makes no sense at all. As John Lennon said …”…. All we are saying is give peace a chance.”

[Hope the honest opinion above is not offensive to anyone- and if anyone has a more pro Israel opinion, that they will be treated with respect and not banned! Free speech is important in any ForumI!] :bluebird: :bluebird: eel ashamed that the UK .