Southport Child Murderer

Blairs commitment to economic migration in 2001 changed the UK's general policy towards immigration, and it quadrupled under his tenure. The effects of his miscalculation on numbers rumbles on.

The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?

Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).

Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.

Spot on.

Yep, couldn’t agree more.

The EDL has no mandate and is a hate driven movement that needs taking down.

I have no issue with people being against others (even if I don’t agree) but the way to challenge is through the political process. They have Reform who have clearly shown they support the views of the EDL so just vote for them.

I seem to remember the WDL (Swansea based) tried to organise a march a few years ago and, if I’m not mistaken, a load of Cardiff fans chased them out of town. I’d like to think that will happen again.

What I am sure about is that next EDL have a march they will be met by opposition in numbers that will dwarf theirs !!

When the EDL were formed there was Black guys White guys, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews at their first rally, there was even Gay Pride flags flown. Sadly they were overran with racists, which is a shame because, imo, their ideology was sound. Your theory that Enough is Enough protests will be dwarfed by pretend socialists will be tested this Saturday in Bristol and other British towns and cities. My money is on the football lads.

You might be right for this Saturday’s marches as there is no real “anti racist” movement since the National Front and BNP crawled back under their rocks. But numbers are mobilising and if they do through with their proposed Glasgow march they may have a shock.

If they go anywhere near Cardiff I will be attending any “anti-EDL” march just as I did against the NF and BNP. Let’s hope EDL go the same way as those odious organisations.

By the way, I’m not sure we should describe these idiots as “Football Lads”. They are racist scum and whilst some may attend football games they are far from representing the vast majority of football fans.

I don’t agree with you that the EDL ideology was sound, but that’s really not the issue here. I’m all for free speech but massively against hate speech particularly when it’s clearly based on religion or skin colour.

If there was an influx of boats from the US carrying white people running from Trumpism, I would bet my houses on there not being a single objection !!

The EDL haven’t existed for over a decade.
I disagree about the response to boatloads of Yank Democrats coming here, I spent a few weeks with them and couldn’t think of anything worse. I’ve asked before how those who claim Leftwing credentials, would react if rather than Muslims it was Neo Con Yank Christians . I live in a secular country, which apart from some sleepy bishops in the House of Lords, has separated religion and politics, consequently when Muslim Prayers are said before some council meetings and politicians shout Allah Akbar when getting elected , I’m concerned.

The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?

Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).

Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.

Spot on.

Yep, couldn’t agree more.

The EDL has no mandate and is a hate driven movement that needs taking down.

I have no issue with people being against others (even if I don’t agree) but the way to challenge is through the political process. They have Reform who have clearly shown they support the views of the EDL so just vote for them.

I seem to remember the WDL (Swansea based) tried to organise a march a few years ago and, if I’m not mistaken, a load of Cardiff fans chased them out of town. I’d like to think that will happen again.

What I am sure about is that next EDL have a march they will be met by opposition in numbers that will dwarf theirs !!

When the EDL were formed there was Black guys White guys, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews at their first rally, there was even Gay Pride flags flown. Sadly they were overran with racists, which is a shame because, imo, their ideology was sound. Your theory that Enough is Enough protests will be dwarfed by pretend socialists will be tested this Saturday in Bristol and other British towns and cities. My money is on the football lads.

You might be right for this Saturday’s marches as there is no real “anti racist” movement since the National Front and BNP crawled back under their rocks. But numbers are mobilising and if they do through with their proposed Glasgow march they may have a shock.

If they go anywhere near Cardiff I will be attending any “anti-EDL” march just as I did against the NF and BNP. Let’s hope EDL go the same way as those odious organisations.

By the way, I’m not sure we should describe these idiots as “Football Lads”. They are racist scum and whilst some may attend football games they are far from representing the vast majority of football fans.

I don’t agree with you that the EDL ideology was sound, but that’s really not the issue here. I’m all for free speech but massively against hate speech particularly when it’s clearly based on religion or skin colour.

If there was an influx of boats from the US carrying white people running from Trumpism, I would bet my houses on there not being a single objection !!

The EDL haven’t existed for over a decade.
I disagree about the response to boatloads of Yank Democrats coming here, I spent a few weeks with them and couldn’t think of anything worse. I’ve asked before how those who claim Leftwing credentials, would react if rather than Muslims it was Neo Con Yank Christians . I live in a secular country, which apart from some sleepy bishops in the House of Lords, has separated religion and politics, consequently when Muslim Prayers are said before some council meetings and politicians shout Allah Akbar when getting elected , I’m concerned.

I don’t agree with any country basing their customs, policies, etc., on any religion.

It shocked me when watching the coronation last year and it was all religion based.

I have no problem with anyone worshipping any God they like (even if they I think they’re nuts !!) but we have to move away from basing our societies on a book/books of fiction that were written 2000+ years ago. In my humble opinion of course !

The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?

Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).

Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.

Spot on.

Yep, couldn’t agree more.

The EDL has no mandate and is a hate driven movement that needs taking down.

I have no issue with people being against others (even if I don’t agree) but the way to challenge is through the political process. They have Reform who have clearly shown they support the views of the EDL so just vote for them.

I seem to remember the WDL (Swansea based) tried to organise a march a few years ago and, if I’m not mistaken, a load of Cardiff fans chased them out of town. I’d like to think that will happen again.

What I am sure about is that next EDL have a march they will be met by opposition in numbers that will dwarf theirs !!

When the EDL were formed there was Black guys White guys, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews at their first rally, there was even Gay Pride flags flown. Sadly they were overran with racists, which is a shame because, imo, their ideology was sound. Your theory that Enough is Enough protests will be dwarfed by pretend socialists will be tested this Saturday in Bristol and other British towns and cities. My money is on the football lads.

You might be right for this Saturday’s marches as there is no real “anti racist” movement since the National Front and BNP crawled back under their rocks. But numbers are mobilising and if they do through with their proposed Glasgow march they may have a shock.

If they go anywhere near Cardiff I will be attending any “anti-EDL” march just as I did against the NF and BNP. Let’s hope EDL go the same way as those odious organisations.

By the way, I’m not sure we should describe these idiots as “Football Lads”. They are racist scum and whilst some may attend football games they are far from representing the vast majority of football fans.

I don’t agree with you that the EDL ideology was sound, but that’s really not the issue here. I’m all for free speech but massively against hate speech particularly when it’s clearly based on religion or skin colour.

If there was an influx of boats from the US carrying white people running from Trumpism, I would bet my houses on there not being a single objection !!

The EDL haven’t existed for over a decade.
I disagree about the response to boatloads of Yank Democrats coming here, I spent a few weeks with them and couldn’t think of anything worse. I’ve asked before how those who claim Leftwing credentials, would react if rather than Muslims it was Neo Con Yank Christians . I live in a secular country, which apart from some sleepy bishops in the House of Lords, has separated religion and politics, consequently when Muslim Prayers are said before some council meetings and politicians shout Allah Akbar when getting elected , I’m concerned.

I don’t agree with any country basing their customs, policies, etc., on any religion.

It shocked me when watching the coronation last year and it was all religion based.

I have no problem with anyone worshipping any God they like (even if they I think they’re nuts !!) but we have to move away from basing our societies on a book/books of fiction that were written 2000+ years ago. In my humble opinion of course !

You and every westerner needs to get used to religion controlling our country, Islam won't stop until it controls the world, and those currently running our country are doing nothing about it.

The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?

Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).

Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.

Spot on.

Yep, couldn’t agree more.

The EDL has no mandate and is a hate driven movement that needs taking down.

I have no issue with people being against others (even if I don’t agree) but the way to challenge is through the political process. They have Reform who have clearly shown they support the views of the EDL so just vote for them.

I seem to remember the WDL (Swansea based) tried to organise a march a few years ago and, if I’m not mistaken, a load of Cardiff fans chased them out of town. I’d like to think that will happen again.

What I am sure about is that next EDL have a march they will be met by opposition in numbers that will dwarf theirs !!

When the EDL were formed there was Black guys White guys, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews at their first rally, there was even Gay Pride flags flown. Sadly they were overran with racists, which is a shame because, imo, their ideology was sound. Your theory that Enough is Enough protests will be dwarfed by pretend socialists will be tested this Saturday in Bristol and other British towns and cities. My money is on the football lads.

You might be right for this Saturday’s marches as there is no real “anti racist” movement since the National Front and BNP crawled back under their rocks. But numbers are mobilising and if they do through with their proposed Glasgow march they may have a shock.

If they go anywhere near Cardiff I will be attending any “anti-EDL” march just as I did against the NF and BNP. Let’s hope EDL go the same way as those odious organisations.

By the way, I’m not sure we should describe these idiots as “Football Lads”. They are racist scum and whilst some may attend football games they are far from representing the vast majority of football fans.

I don’t agree with you that the EDL ideology was sound, but that’s really not the issue here. I’m all for free speech but massively against hate speech particularly when it’s clearly based on religion or skin colour.

If there was an influx of boats from the US carrying white people running from Trumpism, I would bet my houses on there not being a single objection !!

The EDL haven’t existed for over a decade.
I disagree about the response to boatloads of Yank Democrats coming here, I spent a few weeks with them and couldn’t think of anything worse. I’ve asked before how those who claim Leftwing credentials, would react if rather than Muslims it was Neo Con Yank Christians . I live in a secular country, which apart from some sleepy bishops in the House of Lords, has separated religion and politics, consequently when Muslim Prayers are said before some council meetings and politicians shout Allah Akbar when getting elected , I’m concerned.

I don’t agree with any country basing their customs, policies, etc., on any religion.

It shocked me when watching the coronation last year and it was all religion based.

I have no problem with anyone worshipping any God they like (even if they I think they’re nuts !!) but we have to move away from basing our societies on a book/books of fiction that were written 2000+ years ago. In my humble opinion of course !

You and every westerner needs to get used to religion controlling our country, Islam won't stop until it controls the world, and those currently running our country are doing nothing about it.

That’s where the right wing argument falls down into just a farce !!

The fact is that the population of UK includes only 6% Muslims.

So what are you suggesting ? That 6% will vote in a Muslim government? The Muslim countries will start World War 3 and topple NATO and/or Russia ?

Get real, that’s just scaremongering with no real substance and does not help any cause that the right are promoting.

By the way. Let’s not forget that the Southport murderer was a Christian, but don’t let facts get in the way of the racist agenda !! Usual stereotyping of people meant that thickos like EDL automatically made them Muslim and that lack of intellect is the heart of this issue.

MI5 made major changes to intelligence assessment after the 2005 attacks, and have foiled and failed on occasions since.
This alone says much as they only act with good reason.
Suspicion of Muslims is consequential, as with the Irish previously.

The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?

Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).

Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.

Spot on.

Yep, couldn’t agree more.

The EDL has no mandate and is a hate driven movement that needs taking down.

I have no issue with people being against others (even if I don’t agree) but the way to challenge is through the political process. They have Reform who have clearly shown they support the views of the EDL so just vote for them.

I seem to remember the WDL (Swansea based) tried to organise a march a few years ago and, if I’m not mistaken, a load of Cardiff fans chased them out of town. I’d like to think that will happen again.

What I am sure about is that next EDL have a march they will be met by opposition in numbers that will dwarf theirs !!

When the EDL were formed there was Black guys White guys, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews at their first rally, there was even Gay Pride flags flown. Sadly they were overran with racists, which is a shame because, imo, their ideology was sound. Your theory that Enough is Enough protests will be dwarfed by pretend socialists will be tested this Saturday in Bristol and other British towns and cities. My money is on the football lads.

You might be right for this Saturday’s marches as there is no real “anti racist” movement since the National Front and BNP crawled back under their rocks. But numbers are mobilising and if they do through with their proposed Glasgow march they may have a shock.

If they go anywhere near Cardiff I will be attending any “anti-EDL” march just as I did against the NF and BNP. Let’s hope EDL go the same way as those odious organisations.

By the way, I’m not sure we should describe these idiots as “Football Lads”. They are racist scum and whilst some may attend football games they are far from representing the vast majority of football fans.

I don’t agree with you that the EDL ideology was sound, but that’s really not the issue here. I’m all for free speech but massively against hate speech particularly when it’s clearly based on religion or skin colour.

If there was an influx of boats from the US carrying white people running from Trumpism, I would bet my houses on there not being a single objection !!

The EDL haven’t existed for over a decade.
I disagree about the response to boatloads of Yank Democrats coming here, I spent a few weeks with them and couldn’t think of anything worse. I’ve asked before how those who claim Leftwing credentials, would react if rather than Muslims it was Neo Con Yank Christians . I live in a secular country, which apart from some sleepy bishops in the House of Lords, has separated religion and politics, consequently when Muslim Prayers are said before some council meetings and politicians shout Allah Akbar when getting elected , I’m concerned.

I don’t agree with any country basing their customs, policies, etc., on any religion.

It shocked me when watching the coronation last year and it was all religion based.

I have no problem with anyone worshipping any God they like (even if they I think they’re nuts !!) but we have to move away from basing our societies on a book/books of fiction that were written 2000+ years ago. In my humble opinion of course !

You and every westerner needs to get used to religion controlling our country, Islam won't stop until it controls the world, and those currently running our country are doing nothing about it.

That’s where the right wing argument falls down into just a farce !!

The fact is that the population of UK includes only 6% Muslims.

So what are you suggesting ? That 6% will vote in a Muslim government? The Muslim countries will start World War 3 and topple NATO and/or Russia ?

Get real, that’s just scaremongering with no real substance and does not help any cause that the right are promoting.

By the way. Let’s not forget that the Southport murderer was a Christian, but don’t let facts get in the way of the racist agenda !! Usual stereotyping of people meant that thickos like EDL automatically made them Muslim and that lack of intellect is the heart of this issue.

6% Muslims with a much higher birth rate and hundreds of thousands coming here, both legally and illegally. It’s no secret that many Muslims favor a Worldwide Caliphate under Sharia. Erdogan and Gadaffi both said Islam will conquer Europe using the wombs of Muslim Women but this isn’t new, the president of Algeria said similar, from the floor of the UN in the 70s. People who call themselves Leftwing are Islams useful idiots, even Muslin Vote didn’t open their eyes.

The media are disgusting. The fact they’ve labelled people, who are appalled by an alleged immigrant killing 3 children, far right supporters is quite simply a disgrace. Why are people who aren’t even far right allowed to protest about what happened. I don’t agree with the violent side of it, but how on earth can they say they are far right?

Who else turns up uninvited to a vigil for dead children with tins in hand, draped in England flags and then attacks the nearby mosque, despite the perpetrator being a Cardiff-born son of Rwandan parents, a country that is 2% Muslim population? (not that attacking a mosque would be a particularly valuable endeavour even if the perpetrator was Muslim).

Anyone coming here to argue, or sat reading thinking “good on them” should be absolutely disgusted with themselves.

Spot on.

Yep, couldn’t agree more.

The EDL has no mandate and is a hate driven movement that needs taking down.

I have no issue with people being against others (even if I don’t agree) but the way to challenge is through the political process. They have Reform who have clearly shown they support the views of the EDL so just vote for them.

I seem to remember the WDL (Swansea based) tried to organise a march a few years ago and, if I’m not mistaken, a load of Cardiff fans chased them out of town. I’d like to think that will happen again.

What I am sure about is that next EDL have a march they will be met by opposition in numbers that will dwarf theirs !!

When the EDL were formed there was Black guys White guys, Sikhs, Hindus and Jews at their first rally, there was even Gay Pride flags flown. Sadly they were overran with racists, which is a shame because, imo, their ideology was sound. Your theory that Enough is Enough protests will be dwarfed by pretend socialists will be tested this Saturday in Bristol and other British towns and cities. My money is on the football lads.

You might be right for this Saturday’s marches as there is no real “anti racist” movement since the National Front and BNP crawled back under their rocks. But numbers are mobilising and if they do through with their proposed Glasgow march they may have a shock.

If they go anywhere near Cardiff I will be attending any “anti-EDL” march just as I did against the NF and BNP. Let’s hope EDL go the same way as those odious organisations.

By the way, I’m not sure we should describe these idiots as “Football Lads”. They are racist scum and whilst some may attend football games they are far from representing the vast majority of football fans.

I don’t agree with you that the EDL ideology was sound, but that’s really not the issue here. I’m all for free speech but massively against hate speech particularly when it’s clearly based on religion or skin colour.

If there was an influx of boats from the US carrying white people running from Trumpism, I would bet my houses on there not being a single objection !!

The EDL haven’t existed for over a decade.
I disagree about the response to boatloads of Yank Democrats coming here, I spent a few weeks with them and couldn’t think of anything worse. I’ve asked before how those who claim Leftwing credentials, would react if rather than Muslims it was Neo Con Yank Christians . I live in a secular country, which apart from some sleepy bishops in the House of Lords, has separated religion and politics, consequently when Muslim Prayers are said before some council meetings and politicians shout Allah Akbar when getting elected , I’m concerned.

I don’t agree with any country basing their customs, policies, etc., on any religion.

It shocked me when watching the coronation last year and it was all religion based.

I have no problem with anyone worshipping any God they like (even if they I think they’re nuts !!) but we have to move away from basing our societies on a book/books of fiction that were written 2000+ years ago. In my humble opinion of course !

You and every westerner needs to get used to religion controlling our country, Islam won't stop until it controls the world, and those currently running our country are doing nothing about it.

That’s where the right wing argument falls down into just a farce !!

The fact is that the population of UK includes only 6% Muslims.

So what are you suggesting ? That 6% will vote in a Muslim government? The Muslim countries will start World War 3 and topple NATO and/or Russia ?

Get real, that’s just scaremongering with no real substance and does not help any cause that the right are promoting.

By the way. Let’s not forget that the Southport murderer was a Christian, but don’t let facts get in the way of the racist agenda !! Usual stereotyping of people meant that thickos like EDL automatically made them Muslim and that lack of intellect is the heart of this issue.

Let’s get a few things straight to start with. I’m most definitely not right wing or a racist, I’m a British citizen who is very concerned about the future for my kids and grandkids. Also the EDL no longer exist and haven’t done for many years.

Now for some figures. In 2020 the PEW estimated that more than 24.1% of the world's population is Muslim, with an estimated total of approximately 1.9 billion. By 2060, this is projected to increase by 70%, based on the overall population increasing by 33%.

The UK muslim population increased from 2.7m in 2011 to 3.9m in 2021. That’s a 45% increase in 10 years. By 2050 it’s expected Muslim will be the most practised religion in the UK. It is also the fasted growing religion in the world.

It's estimated that there are about 50 Sharia councils in the UK and about 130 Sharia courts. This will no doubt rise with the muslim population. After the last election, there are 25 muslim MP's.

During 2022 and 2023, 2.3 million migrants entered the UK. The vast majority of these are muslim men. Islam expects it’s followers to have as many children as possible which is why muslims have the highest fertility rate in the world.

The white Brit is now in the minority in London and many other capitals across Europe. This will only increase to other cities, then towns.

Wake up people, this is happening right under your noses.

The reason the edl doesn't exist is because they got sussed but people who support the aims just come up with new names

Same shit , different day


https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-ch ... L1N32Q1ML/

Our public services are in a right state. NHS, Local Authorities, Police, Housing underfunded and deteriorating rapidly. Millions of ££'s are being spent each week on those crossing the channel, the majority of whom are economic migrants, when this money is much needed to stop this country from becoming third world. I don't care if you're black, white, brown, yellow, or purple, we can't keep allowing uncontrolled immigration to continue. Why are they coming here, when they can claim asylum in any other European country? It's because they've been told that Britain is the land of milk and honey...free furnished house, benefits, mobile phones etc. and who can blame them. I'd probably do the same in their shoes. Immigration is fine, but there has to be a control of it before the UK population explodes, and public services infrastructure implodes.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

Let’s just agree these riots are a chance for racist bellends to have a go at innocent people.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

A comparison of Masonic Lodges to Sharia Councils.. have you had an attack of the vapours?

Let’s just agree these riots are a chance for racist bellends to have a go at innocent people.

They’ve certainly been emboldened by the recent incidents. If you ask them what they’re rioting for, or who against they won’t have too many facts or actual reasons in their answers.

No doubt things need to change in this country but this kind of outpouring of emotion and anger against a whole group of people isn’t helping anything.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

Besides the idiot who hired a van from pontycun and drove to London and mowed down innocent people outside a mosque, I can't think of any other terrorist attack in this country by a white person. The two crimes I referred to are shocking crimes and would have made headline news whatever the colour skin of the perpetrator or victims.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

Besides the idiot who hired a van from pontycun and drove to London and mowed down innocent people outside a mosque, I can't think of any other terrorist attack in this country by a white person. The two crimes I referred to are shocking crimes and would have made headline news whatever the colour skin of the perpetrator or victims.

Lucy Letby killed children, not a peep.
The rich have been taking advantage of the poorest in the country for years, not a peep.

These people have reason to be angry, I personally think they’re directing that anger towards the wrong people.

Extremists are extremists on all sides of the argument. The problem for me is that the people in power thrive off dividing and conquering. They’ll be sat there laughing their tits off as the country burns.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

If all this is about skin colour why no Hinduphobia, why no Buddhistaphobia, why mo Sikhaphobia. I watched a citizen journalist report on the Westminster Protest he interviewed white people, black people and Hindus. Don’t fall for legacy media lies, there’s definitely a few racists involved and a few opportunists who’ll loot businesses but the vast majority are ordinary people fed up where our country is headed.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

Besides the idiot who hired a van from pontycun and drove to London and mowed down innocent people outside a mosque, I can't think of any other terrorist attack in this country by a white person. The two crimes I referred to are shocking crimes and would have made headline news whatever the colour skin of the perpetrator or victims.

Hmmm, the killer of the Labour MP, or doesn’t that count.

Why do you think it was OK for the protestors to kick in the door of an Asian family and scare them to death ?

This is nothing but racism, bullying and hatred that has no place in a civilised society.

If you defend this then your time will come, very shortly I hope.

The rioters burned down a library, food bank and learning centre. Says it all.

The rioters burned down a library, food bank and learning centre. Says it all.

Indeed, brainless.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

Besides the idiot who hired a van from pontycun and drove to London and mowed down innocent people outside a mosque, I can't think of any other terrorist attack in this country by a white person. The two crimes I referred to are shocking crimes and would have made headline news whatever the colour skin of the perpetrator or victims.

Lucy Letby killed children, not a peep.
The rich have been taking advantage of the poorest in the country for years, not a peep.

These people have reason to be angry, I personally think they’re directing that anger towards the wrong people.

Extremists are extremists on all sides of the argument. The problem for me is that the people in power thrive off dividing and conquering. They’ll be sat there laughing their tits off as the country burns.

Well I’ve been reading articles from abroad (they can’t publish in Uk) that put that case in a very different light. I’m no conspiracy theorist at all but a lot of the evidence (that was all circumstantial) gets debunked quite effectively.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

Besides the idiot who hired a van from pontycun and drove to London and mowed down innocent people outside a mosque, I can't think of any other terrorist attack in this country by a white person. The two crimes I referred to are shocking crimes and would have made headline news whatever the colour skin of the perpetrator or victims.

Lucy Letby killed children, not a peep.
The rich have been taking advantage of the poorest in the country for years, not a peep.

These people have reason to be angry, I personally think they’re directing that anger towards the wrong people.

Extremists are extremists on all sides of the argument. The problem for me is that the people in power thrive off dividing and conquering. They’ll be sat there laughing their tits off as the country burns.

Well I’ve been reading articles from abroad (they can’t publish in Uk) that put that case in a very different light. I’m no conspiracy theorist at all but a lot of the evidence (that was all circumstantial) gets debunked quite effectively.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

Besides the idiot who hired a van from pontycun and drove to London and mowed down innocent people outside a mosque, I can't think of any other terrorist attack in this country by a white person. The two crimes I referred to are shocking crimes and would have made headline news whatever the colour skin of the perpetrator or victims.

Hmmm, the killer of the Labour MP, or doesn’t that count.

Why do you think it was OK for the protestors to kick in the door of an Asian family and scare them to death ?

This is nothing but racism, bullying and hatred that has no place in a civilised society.

If you defend this then your time will come, very shortly I hope.

I did say that the van hire guy was all I could think of at the time of posting.

When did I say it was ok for these protesters, rioters, idiots, whatever you want to call them, to scare innocent people was ok, NEVER. You're trying to divert the attention from your earlier comment which in my book was the lowest of low.

The sooner the woke people of this country wake up and see what's going on in this country the better chance of us surviving, but it they are all like you we are doomed.

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

Besides the idiot who hired a van from pontycun and drove to London and mowed down innocent people outside a mosque, I can't think of any other terrorist attack in this country by a white person. The two crimes I referred to are shocking crimes and would have made headline news whatever the colour skin of the perpetrator or victims.

Lucy Letby killed children, not a peep.
The rich have been taking advantage of the poorest in the country for years, not a peep.

These people have reason to be angry, I personally think they’re directing that anger towards the wrong people.

Extremists are extremists on all sides of the argument. The problem for me is that the people in power thrive off dividing and conquering. They’ll be sat there laughing their tits off as the country burns.

Well I’ve been reading articles from abroad (they can’t publish in Uk) that put that case in a very different light. I’m no conspiracy theorist at all but a lot of the evidence (that was all circumstantial) gets debunked quite effectively.

Interesting...... any links mate?

Jock

Well I am “left wing” and I am nobody’s idiot nor am I calling you an idiot for your views.

I do agree that we have to limit immigration, but we also have to value it because with immigration our hospitality sector, NHS and care sector will simply collapse. FACT. Those people contribute hugely to our society.

Another poster has mentioned the number of Sharia Councils. They may exist, however, they have no legal standing.

Just like some of the Christian extremist councils and even organisations such as the Masonic Lodges.

As for EDL not existing, they do, they just hide the name. It’s an organisation “led” by a convicted fraudster, stalker,etc., arguing that immigrants are criminals !! It’s so pathetic it’s like a Monty Python sketch !!

So less of the b^$$^~¥s and let’s talk reality shall we.

I’m not calling you personally an idiot, my point is many of those who claim to be Leftwing really haven’t got a clue. Queers for Palastine for instance,is like chickens for KFC. Islam is all about expansion, always has been, always will be. Their whole religious/political ideology is a million miles from socialism/communism. When the “Left” has outlived its usefulness they’ll be dropped, Muslim Vote shows that’s already happening in the UK.
BTW there was a large mob of Muslim men armed with everything from swords and knives to baseball bats charging about Stoke last night, you won’t see it reported on our legacy media like BBC, Sly News or Ch4 but there’s plenty on YouTube. I don’t consider myself Rightwing , I’m a pragmatist not an ideologue but the Overton Window has moved so far to the left, that’s how I’m branded.
Have a good day mate, we’ve more n common than you might think but higher powers are playing divide and rule

Fair play, we might have different views but as long as there are no insults (or violence !!) that’s healthy !!

But watching a mob trashing a Citizens Advice Bureau in the name of “our country” makes my blood boil as you might detect !!

If this carries on I’ll be marching for Welsh independence!!

This post has got to be the most shocking I have read on this forum.

Three little girls got stabbed to death whilst at a dance class in Southport.
An army soldier got stabbed multiple times in an unprovoked attack.
829 immigrants freely crossed the channel to the UK in the last 7 days.
All these immigrants will be housed for free, have benefits and have free meals. Whilst there are over 300k people homeless and thousands of children starving in the UK.
The NHS and education sector is on it's arse because it can't cope with the increased population.
I could go on but I feel it's all falling on deaf ears.

But never mind all that, a punch of idiots trash a citizens advice bureau and that makes your blood boil and your going to march for Welsh independence. You are everything that's currently wrong with modern society and why this and most other countries are doomed.

What about all the crimes committed by white people? Where were these supposed “proud Britains” then. It’s a chance to kick off against people because of their skin colour, don’t try and pretend it’s anything more noble than that.

Besides the idiot who hired a van from pontycun and drove to London and mowed down innocent people outside a mosque, I can't think of any other terrorist attack in this country by a white person. The two crimes I referred to are shocking crimes and would have made headline news whatever the colour skin of the perpetrator or victims.

Hmmm, the killer of the Labour MP, or doesn’t that count.

Why do you think it was OK for the protestors to kick in the door of an Asian family and scare them to death ?

This is nothing but racism, bullying and hatred that has no place in a civilised society.

If you defend this then your time will come, very shortly I hope.

I did say that the van hire guy was all I could think of at the time of posting.

When did I say it was ok for these protesters, rioters, idiots, whatever you want to call them, to scare innocent people was ok, NEVER. You're trying to divert the attention from your earlier comment which in my book was the lowest of low.

The sooner the woke people of this country wake up and see what's going on in this country the better chance of us surviving, but it they are all like you we are doomed.

Oh get real !! And while you’re at it quit calling people “woke” just because they have an answer for anything the right wing want to raise. It’s not woke, it’s intellect.

There is nothing in my post that isn’t factual.

The pressure that was put on the NHS by the Tory cuts is massively more impactful on the service than any immigration numbers. FACT whether you like it or not.

I thank my lucky stars I’m Cardiff born and bred as there were 20 fascists and 400 anti-fascists down the Bay last night and today 7 fascists and 450 anti-fascists in town. Democracy in action !!

Are these the same Tory cuts that have left a £20bn black hole in the economy? Having it both ways is rather fanciful but not unexpected.