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Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:37 pm

Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

What’s your opinion of the Biden Crime Family, do you think Hunter got his position on the board of a Ukrainian oil company on merit.



Like I've said previously Jock usa politics is full of dodgy dealings and corrupt people so not directing at one person as it stands usa president is a convicted criminal ....

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 12:45 pm

There's a difference to what Trump says anď what he does, he's already been president and the world didn't didn't cave in.He needs to use this term to change America properly long term

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:44 pm

Cardiff_CPT wrote:There's a difference to what Trump says anď what he does, he's already been president and the world didn't didn't cave in.He needs to use this term to change America properly long term


Finacially the usa was better under trump and he caused no wars and employment was decent,
so i suppose most would settle for that.
Rather than sleepy joe and Obama's deals with iran in the past.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 1:49 pm

10 million migrants come across the border, transgender laws , people not doing as well as they did under trump last time, making it illegal to ask for voter id in California because it's racist,the justice system has been politisized,Joe biden was week as piss on the international stage ,Harris had no policies amongst other things that's why trump got back in .

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:48 pm

Full tds going on today on X it's brilliant watching, they don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot with X help Republicans this election cycle instead of them :lol:
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Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:49 pm

With Harris getting 15 million less votes than biden was the last election rigged ??? .

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 2:59 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw :D
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

What’s your opinion of the Biden Crime Family, do you think Hunter got his position on the board of a Ukrainian oil company on merit.



Like I've said previously Jock usa politics is full of dodgy dealings and corrupt people so not directing at one person as it stands usa president is a convicted criminal ....

At least Trump is a decent honest crook

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:09 pm

Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw :D
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

What’s your opinion of the Biden Crime Family, do you think Hunter got his position on the board of a Ukrainian oil company on merit.



Like I've said previously Jock usa politics is full of dodgy dealings and corrupt people so not directing at one person as it stands usa president is a convicted criminal ....

At least Trump is a decent honest crook




Honest maybe by usa standards? :laughing6:
But things are shaping up tariffs on goods from UK Europe effecting our growth... filling judiciary with his pals so can make any law he likes
same with senate and looks like house of representatives going same way far to much power for onean ..... he says will bring quick end to gaza war can you see him stopping arms because thats only way to stop Netanyahu.
... same for Ukraine previously threatened to withdraw help if didn't agree to peace with loss of their
land to russia... let's hope his rhetoric is just that otherwise countries will be getting worried.... other than that I'm sure he's a lovely caring person... :P

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:32 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw :D
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

What’s your opinion of the Biden Crime Family, do you think Hunter got his position on the board of a Ukrainian oil company on merit.



Like I've said previously Jock usa politics is full of dodgy dealings and corrupt people so not directing at one person as it stands usa president is a convicted criminal ....

At least Trump is a decent honest crook




Honest maybe by usa standards? :laughing6:
But things are shaping up tariffs on goods from UK Europe effecting our growth... filling judiciary with his pals so can make any law he likes
same with senate and looks like house of representatives going same way far to much power for onean ..... he says will bring quick end to gaza war can you see him stopping arms because thats only way to stop Netanyahu.
... same for Ukraine previously threatened to withdraw help if didn't agree to peace with loss of their
land to russia... let's hope his rhetoric is just that otherwise countries will be getting worried.... other than that I'm sure he's a lovely caring person... :P

I’ve read a fair bit about Trump and he’s ruthless, bordering on sociopathic, in his business dealings. So I don’t think he’s a caring person. However I think he’ll be a good president. Also everything Trumps done with the Judiciary, Biden did when he was POTUS. For the last 20years or so, Blackrock, Morgan Stanley and the WEF have been calling the tune, I’m hoping Trump will change that, time will tell. Also you’ve got to admit Trumps comic timing is fantastic.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:51 pm

wez1927 wrote:With Harris getting 15 million less votes than biden was the last election rigged ??? .


Well Trump swears by it.

For me the last election was a close fought race and when that happens manipulation can happen. Last night the people votes for this man big time and you cannot deny the people.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 3:58 pm

Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw :D
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

What’s your opinion of the Biden Crime Family, do you think Hunter got his position on the board of a Ukrainian oil company on merit.



Like I've said previously Jock usa politics is full of dodgy dealings and corrupt people so not directing at one person as it stands usa president is a convicted criminal ....

At least Trump is a decent honest crook




Honest maybe by usa standards? :laughing6:
But things are shaping up tariffs on goods from UK Europe effecting our growth... filling judiciary with his pals so can make any law he likes
same with senate and looks like house of representatives going same way far to much power for onean ..... he says will bring quick end to gaza war can you see him stopping arms because thats only way to stop Netanyahu.
... same for Ukraine previously threatened to withdraw help if didn't agree to peace with loss of their
land to russia... let's hope his rhetoric is just that otherwise countries will be getting worried.... other than that I'm sure he's a lovely caring person... :P

I’ve read a fair bit about Trump and he’s ruthless, bordering on sociopathic, in his business dealings. So I don’t think he’s a caring person. However I think he’ll be a good president. Also everything Trumps done with the Judiciary, Biden did when he was POTUS. For the last 20years or so, Blackrock, Morgan Stanley and the WEF have been calling the tune, I’m hoping Trump will change that, time will tell. Also you’ve got to admit Trumps comic timing is fantastic.



Jock whilst dont follow usa particularly I do read things that's why I've generalised when describing politicians way I have they all seem to have same traits...... caring person was sarcastic reference to him my description of egotistical loudmouth criminal is also fairly accurate.. :P ... yes timing is impeccable 10 out 10 on that score.... he will change things but for the better time will tell on that score.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 4:30 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

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You come across as somewhat self-centered in this perspective. It seems as though you expect Americans to act primarily in the interests of others, even at their own expense. Is it fair to criticize their decision simply because the outcome doesn't align with your preferences? I imagine you would have disapproved of Trump’s refusal to accept defeat in the previous election. Similarly, America should have no obligation to bear a disproportionate burden for NATO while others benefit from their contributions. Just as we prioritized our own interests in leaving the European Union, the United States has the right to prioritize theirs. At the end of the day, we must respect the will of the people.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:38 pm

Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

.
You come across as somewhat self-centered in this perspective. It seems as though you expect Americans to act primarily in the interests of others, even at their own expense. Is it fair to criticize their decision simply because the outcome doesn't align with your preferences? I imagine you would have disapproved of Trump’s refusal to accept defeat in the previous election. Similarly, America should have no obligation to bear a disproportionate burden for NATO while others benefit from their contributions. Just as we prioritized our own interests in leaving the European Union, the United States has the right to prioritize theirs. At the end of the day, we must respect the will of the people.



Far from self centred usa proclaims to be the worlds policeman yet talk of Opting out of nato done nothing to stop gaza just help Israel did nothing to stop Russia yes other countries as bad but as you know usa as the clout to influence what happens anywhere in world with exception of maybe n korea.
But guess self interest is more important than world peace.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:59 pm

Absolutely brilliant result. As a US citizen, I am grateful to have cast my vote for him.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:07 pm

BLUEUSA wrote:Absolutely brilliant result. As a US citizen, I am grateful to have cast my vote for him.

Fair play to you.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:07 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:Fantastic the leader of the free world is an egotistical motormouth convicted criminal! God help the free world as he's capable of anything....I await his 1st crazy plan. :o
At least Netanyahu and putin are dancing in the Street at result .. ;)


The American people have cast their votes, and it is their country and their decision. Regardless of personal opinions, it is essential to respect the democratic choice they have made. Their vote reflects what they believe is best for them, even if it may not align with others' perspectives. We could benefit from someone like that here.



Someone like him ? I would settle for an honest politician! My opinion is not out of tilt as to what he's like.... obviously America preferred him to Harris but wasn't much of a choice if truth be known... your right about whats best for them that is America to tee not interested in rest of world in Ukraine wants them to give up land what Russia took otherwise no backing...wants to leave nato and withdraw
funding Said Israel can bomb nuclear plants .... supposed to have special relationship with UK unfortunately it is a one way friendship as long as they benefit their friends... usa politics is full of dubious dealings with a convicted criminal at its head no more to be said. .....

.
You come across as somewhat self-centered in this perspective. It seems as though you expect Americans to act primarily in the interests of others, even at their own expense. Is it fair to criticize their decision simply because the outcome doesn't align with your preferences? I imagine you would have disapproved of Trump’s refusal to accept defeat in the previous election. Similarly, America should have no obligation to bear a disproportionate burden for NATO while others benefit from their contributions. Just as we prioritized our own interests in leaving the European Union, the United States has the right to prioritize theirs. At the end of the day, we must respect the will of the people.



Far from self centred usa proclaims to be the worlds policeman yet talk of Opting out of nato done nothing to stop gaza just help Israel did nothing to stop Russia yes other countries as bad but as you know usa as the clout to influence what happens anywhere in world with exception of maybe n korea.
But guess self interest is more important than world peace.


Of course it is.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:20 pm

The hysteria of the democrats is something to behold. Older people votes shouldn’t count they not important.
You align with that view Alan??

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 7:59 pm

Merthyrfunhouse wrote:The hysteria of the democrats is something to behold. Older people votes shouldn’t count they not important.
You align with that view Alan??



So self interest is better than preventing a war ok... if people want to vote for trump that's their privalge never said anything else but you need to look at the concern around world and in usa (except Israel) at his appointment that's not democratic hysteria but genuine concern at his unpredictability... anyway its done and nothing no-one can do about it..

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:00 pm

Merthyrfunhouse wrote:The hysteria of the democrats is something to behold. Older people votes shouldn’t count they not important.
You align with that view Alan??



So self interest is better than preventing a war ok... if people want to vote for trump that's their privalge never said anything else but you need to look at the concern around world and in usa (except Israel) at his appointment that's not democratic hysteria but genuine concern at his unpredictability... anyway its done and nothing no-one can do about it..

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 8:59 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:The hysteria of the democrats is something to behold. Older people votes shouldn’t count they not important.
You align with that view Alan??



So self interest is better than preventing a war ok... if people want to vote for trump that's their privalge never said anything else but you need to look at the concern around world and in usa (except Israel) at his appointment that's not democratic hysteria but genuine concern at his unpredictability... anyway its done and nothing no-one can do about it..


Quote from usa paper
The rest of the world will now discover what “America First” really means. From the global economic consequences of 20% tariffs that he has proposed on US imports to the wars in Ukraine and the Middle East that he has vowed to end – regardless of which side wins.

Donald Trump did not manage to implement all of his plans in his first term. Now with a second mandate and significantly less encumbered, America, and the world, will
see what he can really do.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Wed Nov 06, 2024 10:18 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:The hysteria of the democrats is something to behold. Older people votes shouldn’t count they not important.
You align with that view Alan??



So self interest is better than preventing a war ok... if people want to vote for trump that's their privalge never said anything else but you need to look at the concern around world and in usa (except Israel) at his appointment that's not democratic hysteria but genuine concern at his unpredictability... anyway its done and nothing no-one can do about it..


Thought it was done.
I wouldn’t worry about to much mate just the same old scare tactics, I very doubt you notice any change. Apart from the extra expenditure on Kleenex.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:11 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:The hysteria of the democrats is something to behold. Older people votes shouldn’t count they not important.
You align with that view Alan??



So self interest is better than preventing a war ok... if people want to vote for trump that's their privalge never said anything else but you need to look at the concern around world and in usa (except Israel) at his appointment that's not democratic hysteria but genuine concern at his unpredictability... anyway its done and nothing no-one can do about it..

You do realise Biden and I’d assume Harris, are in the pockets of the American Military Industrial Complex, you understand the US economy loves a forever war. Like Afghanistan. The Democrats are war mongers.

Re: Updated " Donald Trump back as US President "

Thu Nov 07, 2024 10:09 am

Jock wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Merthyrfunhouse wrote:The hysteria of the democrats is something to behold. Older people votes shouldn’t count they not important.
You align with that view Alan??



So self interest is better than preventing a war ok... if people want to vote for trump that's their privalge never said anything else but you need to look at the concern around world and in usa (except Israel) at his appointment that's not democratic hysteria but genuine concern at his unpredictability... anyway its done and nothing no-one can do about it..

You do realise Biden and I’d assume Harris, are in the pockets of the American Military Industrial Complex, you understand the US economy loves a forever war. Like Afghanistan. The Democrats are war mongers.


Jock. That doesn’t align with Alan’s agenda so it doesn’t exist. He fallen hook line and sinker for the media.