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Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 2:21 pm

I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 7:42 pm

Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:04 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:15 pm

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You want to help this guy who’s willing to trick everyone into war for his own personal gains. This crazy lunatic was willing to put as all at risk with out a second thought. He also sanctioned terroist attacks in Russian cities. They both as bad as each other so let them sort it out themselves.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:25 pm

Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 8:39 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


Lol. He does not want Europe stop scaremongering the media are doing good enough job of that. We need to stop thinking that going into other countries wars and destroying countries killing children and civilians then leaving things in a worse mess is a solution. We need to reign ourselves in before we preach to others. You say look how Germany and Poland worked out when no one did nothing, but look how Iraq Afghanistan Libya all worked out when we stuck our noses in. We lost so many soldiers in things we had no business in.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:04 pm

Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


I'm no fan of Trump but I don't think mentioning Hitler is helpful.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:32 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


I'm no fan of Trump but I don't think mentioning Hitler is helpful.


You’re right it wasn’t.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 9:42 pm

Rhodes98 wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


Lol. He does not want Europe stop scaremongering the media are doing good enough job of that. We need to stop thinking that going into other countries wars and destroying countries killing children and civilians then leaving things in a worse mess is a solution. We need to reign ourselves in before we preach to others. You say look how Germany and Poland worked out when no one did nothing, but look how Iraq Afghanistan Libya all worked out when we stuck our noses in. We lost so many soldiers in things we had no business in.



So you want to stop the dying by allowing Russia invading Ukraine to keep what land they invaded? if countries hadn't intervened you believe putin would have stopped 1mile inside Ukraine? Deluded springs to mind.... and no one has poked noses in gaza to help Palestinian civilians and did Israel stop ? No as soon as gaza truce was established Netanyahu started on West Bank 58yrs after peace was established they are now forcing civilians to leave their homes so that they can establish Israeli settlements there ..... and can go back into history if UK usa hadn't got involved in the two great wars we would now be talking German! that was started by a madman wanting to takeover a country ... but there again you don't agree on the right to be defended people should be submissive to aggressors or have you conveniently forgotten Russian invaded unprovoked a sovereign country?

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 10:11 pm

worcester_ccfc wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


I'm no fan of Trump but I don't think mentioning Hitler is helpful.


That's your opinion which you're welcome to & I'm allowed mine.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 10:13 pm

Rhodes98 wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


I'm no fan of Trump but I don't think mentioning Hitler is helpful.


You’re right it wasn’t.


Oh well in that case I'll just shut up, because you seem to think you know it all.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sat Mar 01, 2025 10:36 pm

pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


Lol. He does not want Europe stop scaremongering the media are doing good enough job of that. We need to stop thinking that going into other countries wars and destroying countries killing children and civilians then leaving things in a worse mess is a solution. We need to reign ourselves in before we preach to others. You say look how Germany and Poland worked out when no one did nothing, but look how Iraq Afghanistan Libya all worked out when we stuck our noses in. We lost so many soldiers in things we had no business in.



So you want to stop the dying by allowing Russia invading Ukraine to keep what land they invaded? if countries hadn't intervened you believe putin would have stopped 1mile inside Ukraine? Deluded springs to mind.... and no one has poked noses in gaza to help Palestinian civilians and did Israel stop ? No as soon as gaza truce was established Netanyahu started on West Bank 58yrs after peace was established they are now forcing civilians to leave their homes so that they can establish Israeli settlements there ..... and can go back into history if UK usa hadn't got involved in the two great wars we would now be talking German! that was started by a madman wanting to takeover a country ... but there again you don't agree on the right to be defended people should be submissive to aggressors or have you conveniently forgotten Russian invaded unprovoked a sovereign country?


Well we gonna have to agree to disagree. Because you starting to make assumptions on what I think and then border line throwing insults on what you concluded the answer to be.
I have no time for people who resort to that because my opinion differs to yours. I could throw some cheap insults and comparisons right back at you but I shall resist.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:29 am

Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


Lol. He does not want Europe stop scaremongering the media are doing good enough job of that. We need to stop thinking that going into other countries wars and destroying countries killing children and civilians then leaving things in a worse mess is a solution. We need to reign ourselves in before we preach to others. You say look how Germany and Poland worked out when no one did nothing, but look how Iraq Afghanistan Libya all worked out when we stuck our noses in. We lost so many soldiers in things we had no business in.



So you want to stop the dying by allowing Russia invading Ukraine to keep what land they invaded? if countries hadn't intervened you believe putin would have stopped 1mile inside Ukraine? Deluded springs to mind.... and no one has poked noses in gaza to help Palestinian civilians and did Israel stop ? No as soon as gaza truce was established Netanyahu started on West Bank 58yrs after peace was established they are now forcing civilians to leave their homes so that they can establish Israeli settlements there ..... and can go back into history if UK usa hadn't got involved in the two great wars we would now be talking German! that was started by a madman wanting to takeover a country ... but there again you don't agree on the right to be defended people should be submissive to aggressors or have you conveniently forgotten Russian invaded unprovoked a sovereign country?


Well we gonna have to agree to disagree. Because you starting to make assumptions on what I think and then border line throwing insults on what you concluded the answer to be.
I have no time for people who resort to that because my opinion differs to yours. I could throw some cheap insults and comparisons right back at you but I shall resist.



Ah well been down this path before with you so not unexpected response from you.....and with that I shall permanently halt this conversation as you say its a waste of time... :thumbup: :wave:

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:27 am

pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...

Starmer is the most authoritarian, sinister PM in my lifetime.
The level of grift and corruption, already uncovered by DOGE, should be cheered to the rooftops by all Yanks. Sadly we live in the era of simple politics for simpletons. Where you’re either virtuous, caring and Leftwing or you’re Hitler. We desperately need DOGE U.K.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:31 am

Rhodes98 wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


Lol. He does not want Europe stop scaremongering the media are doing good enough job of that. We need to stop thinking that going into other countries wars and destroying countries killing children and civilians then leaving things in a worse mess is a solution. We need to reign ourselves in before we preach to others. You say look how Germany and Poland worked out when no one did nothing, but look how Iraq Afghanistan Libya all worked out when we stuck our noses in. We lost so many soldiers in things we had no business in.

But the American Military Industrial Complex made billions

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sun Mar 02, 2025 9:34 am

Welshman in CA wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


I'm no fan of Trump but I don't think mentioning Hitler is helpful.


That's your opinion which you're welcome to & I'm allowed mine.

It’s ridiculous and hysterical to compare Trump with Hitler, it also diminishes the evil Hitler was responsible for.

Re: O/T Is the world changing - RE: Gaza and Ukraine

Sun Mar 02, 2025 1:38 pm

Jock wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
worcester_ccfc wrote:
Welshman in CA wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:
pembroke allan wrote:
Rhodes98 wrote:I wish we had a leader like trump. It was good to see how this played out on tv rather than behind closed doors. Zelensky Doesn’t want peace he wants to bring us all into the war he doesn’t care, he even tried to use emotion blackmail threatening harm coming to America if they don’t do what he wants. Remember when a missile fired by Ukraine landed inside the polish border and everyone thought it was Russian and everyone was say it’s time for nato to intervene when all along it was a Ukrainian missile he was happy to keep that quiet to drag us all into a war, he’s a dangerous dangerous leader.



He doesn't want peace that means their country is partly occupied by Russia would you let putin take over England and agree to peace because Wales Scotland was not occupied? Well that's Ukraine situation and what Trump wants for his friend putin.....
And you think putin won't come back in a year to overrun Ukraine or Romania or one of the other threatened countries. Because trump says I'm alright jack ? Read my post on trumps order that means all decisions made in usa are his and his alone the people or Congress have no say in how usa is run? and you want a leader like him!! Just go north Korea for a taste of what Trump wants to do...


I want people to stop dying as soon as possible on both sides. It isn’t happening giving Ukraine weapons they don’t know how to use properly, that they waste and leave the reusable parts behind to fall into Russian hands.

I want people to stop dying now and I don’t want our country wasting money on funding killing when we have so many issues here where the money could be much better spent. It’s opinions but I want the killings to stop you seem happy for it to go on and on and on and depleting our resources and money in war that again is none of our business.


People who think like that are the same type of people who said the same thing when Hitler invaded Poland & look how that turned out. Putin wants Europe & Trump is happy to help him get it because it's not his problem & he can stay out of prison & build his hotels in Gaza, as well as making South & North America part of the USA to keep for himself. At this rate by the time someone deals with him or stands up to either bully it will be too late.


I'm no fan of Trump but I don't think mentioning Hitler is helpful.


That's your opinion which you're welcome to & I'm allowed mine.

It’s ridiculous and hysterical to compare Trump with Hitler, it also diminishes the evil Hitler was responsible for.



Yes bit ott comparison but a bully is very appropriate description of him! Can add dictator to an appropriate description aswell with latest power grab he's implementing.... there's absolutely no one in Congress who will say no to anything he does because they'll simply be sacked or marginalised....