Cardiff FC

As a Swans fan i genuinely want to know your views on how big you think Cardiff can be? as in fan base wise? and how far can you go if you reach the prem? and don't say Bigger than what Swansea will ever be

You ask this question on a Cardiff City forum?

What the hell did you expect everyone to say?

All you pikey's should be banned as you're ruining this forum with threads that quite frankly bore the shit out of me. Couldn't care a toss about swansea and how they are doing. Would we be afforded the same courtesy as you're given here on planet ifuckmysister...no

I knew exactly what you were going to say.. the same old shit you always say.. things that you can't prove! dream instead of actually doing it!.. if you did make it to the prem i would like to see if your predictions would actually come true..

simple fact is on level playing field same league ect ect we will always be bigger than you past history is there to be seen attendances is only thing you can factor in the equation, as we always had bigger ground! attendance at wembley is neither here or there, alloctations were different! as to the bollocks about stadiums until you get bigger one it is purely speculation as to size of attendances, also one minute you have waiting list then next thing you are taking floating fans from valleys! if that was case where are you fans based in swansea? surely they would be taking up all the seats? and none left for anyone else! stick to facts and like i said history says we are bigger club! future speculation is just that speculation!!

Dear me i think only Cardiff fans think if you have a bigger population you will get more fans and be the bigger club.. and this will have an effect on the global stage.. f*cking all mentalists! it's what you do on the pitch that attracts fans not Cities by population

Mate you are arguing your own case in OUR favour. If its what you do on the pitch, your question was about us in the Prem, ergo we would be doing pretty well on the pitch.

So to put it simple for you. Both in the Prem, both with similar results, the only thing to add in order to get an idea of potential is population and perhaps the popularity of rugby in each region.

What I will give you is that, the longer you stay in the Prem without us going up, the bigger you will get and be bigger than us, however when we are like for like there is only one winner.

Yes the winner is whoever gets the most fans.. but your saying it as if everyone from east wales will support Cardiff.. its whoever they like the most that will be the winner

Just want to add....people in other countries know where Cardiff is and they know about Cardiff the city. That cannot do anything but help.

Most people have no clue who or what Swansea is. I didn't until I started following football two years ago, and I excelled at geography in school.

I know we don't get shown across the globe like Cardiff FC of course.. you are so massive time

and anyway im talking football not geographical city's.. it's obvious Cardiff are more recognised than swansea they are the capital of wales

Hold it right there jack boy you just summed it up in your own words CAPITAL OF WALES thank you and goodnight.....now f**k off to planet retards.

simple fact is on level playing field same league ect ect we will always be bigger than you past history is there to be seen attendances is only thing you can factor in the equation, as we always had bigger ground! attendance at wembley is neither here or there, alloctations were different! as to the bollocks about stadiums until you get bigger one it is purely speculation as to size of attendances, also one minute you have waiting list then next thing you are taking floating fans from valleys! if that was case where are you fans based in swansea? surely they would be taking up all the seats? and none left for anyone else! stick to facts and like i said history says we are bigger club! future speculation is just that speculation!!

it's not a simple fact though is it? we do have a waiting list we do have floating fans from the valleys we obviously have fans based in swansea we do take up all of the seats these are facts and your claiming you are a bigger club now because you won a cup 90 years ago

Just want to add....people in other countries know where Cardiff is and they know about Cardiff the city. That cannot do anything but help.

Most people have no clue who or what Swansea is. I didn't until I started following football two years ago, and I excelled at geography in school.

I know we don't get shown across the globe like Cardiff FC of course.. you are so massive time

and anyway im talking football not geographical city's.. it's obvious Cardiff are more recognised than swansea they are the capital of wales

Hold it right there jack boy you just summed it up in your own words CAPITAL OF WALES thank you and goodnight.....now f**k off to planet retards.

Yeah Cardiff is the Capital of Wales and is more recognised than Swansea.. but Swansea the Football Club is currently more recognised than Cardiff's football team as we are in the premier league and are shown WORLDWIDE every weekend

As a Swans fan i genuinely want to know your views on how big you think Cardiff can be? as in fan base wise? and how far can you go if you reach the prem? and don't say Bigger than what Swansea will ever be

You ask this question on a Cardiff City forum?

What the hell did you expect everyone to say?

All you pikey's should be banned as you're ruining this forum with threads that quite frankly bore the shit out of me. Couldn't care a toss about swansea and how they are doing. Would we be afforded the same courtesy as you're given here on planet ifuckmysister...no

I knew exactly what you were going to say.. the same old shit you always say.. things that you can't prove! dream instead of actually doing it!.. if you did make it to the prem i would like to see if your predictions would actually come true..

how big can we be mmm let me see
when you were in 1st div attendances 25k? ours been 55k, all you can do is look at history because present times are totally different how big can you be? you dont know why because at pesent you can only fit 20k in stadium same as we can only have 27k anything else is pure speculation so not fact! as said look back in history and it tells you we was always bigger than you that is fact!! the future well time ill tell for both teams!, also if both in premiership anser me this would you be bigger than us? just hyperphetical of course remember history though?

All well and good, but when someone in America or other countries are trying to decide on a team, and they have some affinity to Wales they are going to choose Cardiff just like I did. I am certain the Swans have fans over seas....but your argument has been based on potential. You are the one who started it.
To me the sleeping giant fits Cardiff. Large city, large population, capitol, tourist location, all these things add up. It's like 1+1 makes 2. If and when the Bluebirds make the Prem, their fanbase will overwhlem yours, it's not personal it's just simple math.

So what your saying is Chelsea are bigger than Utd.. Arsenal are Bigger than Liverpool.. Roma are bigger than the Milan clubs and Juventus? just because the City has a bigger population and it's the Capital? and you can predict the future as well now? you are more delusional than i thought[/quote

your lot are dilusional! because all you can go on about is you are premier league ffs look back in history div 1 we have both been there who had bigger attendances? you also say you will fill a bigger stadium? how do you know? see into future can you?? even man u dont do it now for smaller games like wigan ect, no one are sleeping jiants but simple look back in history says we were bigger club that is fact, as for future well its just that the future! when we get to the future then we can compare because at present we still have bigger attendances that is fact! and you cant argue against that as your cap 20k ours 27k, the average is yours 20k ours 23k that is fact, all we can go on is present time and stadiums just as in past ours is bigger a act

Yes the winner is whoever gets the most fans.. but your saying it as if everyone from east wales will support Cardiff.. its whoever they like the most that will be the winner

And if we are both doing the same who do YOU think most of East Wales will support? If its just a case of who you 'like' the numbers crossing the divide will be similar on both sides.

Are you building up to the 'way' you play football, don't be shy you can just come out and gush about your passing game.

All well and good, but when someone in America or other countries are trying to decide on a team, and they have some affinity to Wales they are going to choose Cardiff just like I did. I am certain the Swans have fans over seas....but your argument has been based on potential. You are the one who started it.
To me the sleeping giant fits Cardiff. Large city, large population, capitol, tourist location, all these things add up. It's like 1+1 makes 2. If and when the Bluebirds make the Prem, their fanbase will overwhlem yours, it's not personal it's just simple math.

So what your saying is Chelsea are bigger than Utd.. Arsenal are Bigger than Liverpool.. Roma are bigger than the Milan clubs and Juventus? just because the City has a bigger population and it's the Capital? and you can predict the future as well now? you are more delusional than i thought[/quote

your lot are dilusional! because all you can go on about is you are premier league ffs look back in history div 1 we have both been there who had bigger attendances? you also say you will fill a bigger stadium? how do you know? see into future can you?? even man u dont do it now for smaller games like wigan ect, no one are sleeping jiants but simple look back in history says we were bigger club that is fact, as for future well its just that the future! when we get to the future then we can compare because at present we still have bigger attendances that is fact! and you cant argue against that as your cap 20k ours 27k, the average is yours 20k ours 23k that is fact, all we can go on is present time

the thing about attendances is you judge us unfairly because of our stadium size.. and think your bigger than us because you can fit more in than we can.. unfair judgement ain't it

Just want to add....people in other countries know where Cardiff is and they know about Cardiff the city. That cannot do anything but help.

Most people have no clue who or what Swansea is. I didn't until I started following football two years ago, and I excelled at geography in school.

I know we don't get shown across the globe like Cardiff FC of course.. you are so massive time

and anyway im talking football not geographical city's.. it's obvious Cardiff are more recognised than swansea they are the capital of wales

You did the ayatollah. Therefore you are officially a bluebird.
Once a bluebird, always a bluebird.

Dear me i think only Cardiff fans think if you have a bigger population you will get more fans and be the bigger club.. and this will have an effect on the global stage.. f*cking all mentalists! it's what you do on the pitch that attracts fans not Cities by population

population has nothing to do with it true, but look back at history thats only true basis too compare,you can play like brazil it wouldnt matter you are swansea fact we are ccfc fact! never the twain will meet! and thats way always be until you get more fans than us your arguement doesnt stand up ! so we shall wait with bated breath for that day!

Yes the winner is whoever gets the most fans.. but your saying it as if everyone from east wales will support Cardiff.. its whoever they like the most that will be the winner

And if we are both doing the same who do YOU think most of East Wales will support? If its just a case of who you 'like' the numbers crossing the divide will be similar on both sides.

Are you building up to the 'way' you play football, don't be shy you can just come out and gush about your passing game.

The thing is i don't know who will have the most fans but you and all Cardiff fans think you will have more fans than us for some unknown reason.. if we were both in the prem and both had 30k stadiums we both would fill them every game.. so i guess it would be whoever finish's above each other in the league

Dear me i think only Cardiff fans think if you have a bigger population you will get more fans and be the bigger club.. and this will have an effect on the global stage.. f*cking all mentalists! it's what you do on the pitch that attracts fans not Cities by population

population has nothing to do with it true, but look back at history thats only true basis too compare,you can play like brazil it wouldnt matter you are swansea fact we are ccfc fact! never the twain will meet! and thats way always be until you get more fans than us your arguement doesnt stand up ! so we shall wait with bated breath for that day!

we did take 40k plus to wembley is that enough history for you?

All well and good, but when someone in America or other countries are trying to decide on a team, and they have some affinity to Wales they are going to choose Cardiff just like I did. I am certain the Swans have fans over seas....but your argument has been based on potential. You are the one who started it.
To me the sleeping giant fits Cardiff. Large city, large population, capitol, tourist location, all these things add up. It's like 1+1 makes 2. If and when the Bluebirds make the Prem, their fanbase will overwhlem yours, it's not personal it's just simple math.

So what your saying is Chelsea are bigger than Utd.. Arsenal are Bigger than Liverpool.. Roma are bigger than the Milan clubs and Juventus? just because the City has a bigger population and it's the Capital? and you can predict the future as well now? you are more delusional than i thought[/quote

your lot are dilusional! because all you can go on about is you are premier league ffs look back in history div 1 we have both been there who had bigger attendances? you also say you will fill a bigger stadium? how do you know? see into future can you?? even man u dont do it now for smaller games like wigan ect, no one are sleeping jiants but simple look back in history says we were bigger club that is fact, as for future well its just that the future! when we get to the future then we can compare because at present we still have bigger attendances that is fact! and you cant argue against that as your cap 20k ours 27k, the average is yours 20k ours 23k that is fact, all we can go on is present time

the thing about attendances is you judge us unfairly because of our stadium size.. and think your bigger than us because you can fit more in than we can.. unfair judgement ain't it

problem is we have alwas had bigger stadium! like for like leagues we have had bigger gates so wht else can we compare future is something that hasnt happened until then you will have to settle for being in premier leaegue enjoy while it lasts! and if get bigger stadium then can argue whos bigger! premiership does not make you bigger just better by definition

Bigger than the GYPOS will ever be !!

in what way? leagues? 1 cup (90 years ago)? this massive fan base (which is non existent).. i like to argue these points because you all say it as if it is a nailed on fact.

what is your fan base?? think you need to look at geographical spread population! both teams can say all wales our fan base!! you wouldnt fill 60k stadium no more than we could and i am being honest if you think you can please tell me on what basis you think so? dont speculate just facts please

Bigger than the GYPOS will ever be !!

in what way? leagues? 1 cup (90 years ago)? this massive fan base (which is non existent).. i like to argue these points because you all say it as if it is a nailed on fact.

what is your fan base?? think you need to look at geographical spread population! both teams can say all wales our fan base!! you wouldnt fill 60k stadium no more than we could and i am being honest if you think you can please tell me on what basis you think so? dont speculate just facts please

well 20k at the moment due to stadium size.. nope don't think we both would ever fill a 60k stadium

The thing is i don't know who will have the most fans but you and all Cardiff fans think you will have more fans than us for some unknown reason.. if we were both in the prem and both had 30k stadiums we both would fill them every game.. so i guess it would be whoever finish's above each other in the league

The thing is, it's not "for some unknown reason".

We have a very recent comparison that can just be percentages up should we both be in the Prem together. We both shared a league last season and our results were similar. You were promoted so should have had the most potential.

Let's look at the figures.......

Cardiff Avg. 23,150
Swansea Avg. 15,507

simple fact is on level playing field same league ect ect we will always be bigger than you past history is there to be seen attendances is only thing you can factor in the equation, as we always had bigger ground! attendance at wembley is neither here or there, alloctations were different! as to the bollocks about stadiums until you get bigger one it is purely speculation as to size of attendances, also one minute you have waiting list then next thing you are taking floating fans from valleys! if that was case where are you fans based in swansea? surely they would be taking up all the seats? and none left for anyone else! stick to facts and like i said history says we are bigger club! future speculation is just that speculation!!

it's not a simple fact though is it? we do have a waiting list we do have floating fans from the valleys we obviously have fans based in swansea we do take up all of the seats these are facts and your claiming you are a bigger club now because you won a cup 90 years ago

no bigger means just that bigger how is your club bigger than ours? just because premier league doesnt make u bigger!
also dont you think we would have waiting list if rolls reversed? honest anser wuld be yes, actually dont know what your arguement is when you get bigger stadium and get more fans over period time then you can say you are bigger until then ask anyone and they will say we are bigger what ever that means !

Bigger than the GYPOS will ever be !!

in what way? leagues? 1 cup (90 years ago)? this massive fan base (which is non existent).. i like to argue these points because you all say it as if it is a nailed on fact.

what is your fan base?? think you need to look at geographical spread population! both teams can say all wales our fan base!! you wouldnt fill 60k stadium no more than we could and i am being honest if you think you can please tell me on what basis you think so? dont speculate just facts please

well 20k at the moment due to stadium size.. nope don't think we both would ever fill a 60k stadium

20k ????

You do know what a fan base is don't you?

The thing is i don't know who will have the most fans but you and all Cardiff fans think you will have more fans than us for some unknown reason.. if we were both in the prem and both had 30k stadiums we both would fill them every game.. so i guess it would be whoever finish's above each other in the league

The thing is, it's not "for some unknown reason".

We have a very recent comparison that can just be percentages up should we both be in the Prem together. We both shared a league last season and our results were similar. You were promoted so should have had the most potential.

Let's look at the figures.......

Cardiff Avg. 23,150
Swansea Avg. 15,507

bit unfair that is as you had more time in the championship than we did to gain support... compare attendances from cardiff's first 3 years in the championship from ours

The thing is i don't know who will have the most fans but you and all Cardiff fans think you will have more fans than us for some unknown reason.. if we were both in the prem and both had 30k stadiums we both would fill them every game.. so i guess it would be whoever finish's above each other in the league

The thing is, it's not "for some unknown reason".

We have a very recent comparison that can just be percentages up should we both be in the Prem together. We both shared a league last season and our results were similar. You were promoted so should have had the most potential.

Let's look at the figures.......

Cardiff Avg. 23,150
Swansea Avg. 15,507

bit unfair that is as you had more time in the championship than we did to gain support... compare attendances from cardiff's first 3 years in the championship from ours

Nope that's the end of it from me. Head and brick wall comes to mind. I could go back further but next it will be unfair because we had a cup run and so on and so on.

What about the fact that your Championship average attendance only went up 100 or 1% between 2010 and 2011.

Yeah Cardiff is the Capital of Wales and is more recognised than Swansea.. but Swansea the Football Club is currently more recognised than Cardiff's football team as we are in the premier league and are shown WORLDWIDE every weekend

If more people know the city Cardiff then more will know our football club. Surely if more people knew of Swansea Town they will know its a place? making Swansea more known than Cardiff. But if people knew of Swansea they would know of Wales, knowing the capital city and its football club. Making us better known?

What a boring thread. Why do Cardiff bite to this shit?

Just ignore the bores

I do agree with Bish; although on the other hand it is quite amusing when the usual Jack suspects invade our board attempting to wind us up only to get upset themselves when we prove what idiots they are.

This numpty is a prime example. When yet another of his theories is disproved his only answer is "that's unfair" (see above re stadium size, average attendances etc). Why attempt a wind up when you are as thick as shit & don't understand what you are talking about in the first place? Bless.

Did read one interesting statistic today. The player who came third in the Premiership yesterday for the number of long passes hit in the games played was none other than Mr Ashley "iniesta" Williams (with14 against Everton). Swanselona, my arse!!!

I do agree with Bish; although on the other hand it is quite amusing when the usual Jack suspects invade our board attempting to wind us up only to get upset themselves when we prove what idiots they are.

This numpty is a prime example. When yet another of his theories is disproved his only answer is "that's unfair" (see above re stadium size, average attendances etc). Why attempt a wind up when you are as thick as shit & don't understand what you are talking about in the first place? Bless.

Did read one interesting statistic today. The player who came third in the Premiership yesterday for the number of long passes hit in the games played was none other than Mr Ashley "iniesta" Williams (with14 against Everton). Swanselona, my arse!!!

Im just questioning your theory's.. Swansea's attendances have improved and if our stadium was the same size as the CCS we would sell it out every week and you know we would.. Swansea's 40k+ to Cardiffs 35k+ at wembley proves it..

You have no clue how good Ashley Williams is.. and as calling me thick as shit it's the premier league not the premiership.. Cardiff are living in a little bubble that think they are big time but in reality they are a failing debt ridden average Championship club with ambitions that are delusional.. the Malaysians are putting you into more debt and will leave you as soon as theyve had enough.. financial fair play is coming very soon and it will hit Cardiff FC really hard

You should go and find a mirror and a stool and have a good long argument with yourself Mr white.

I do agree with Bish; although on the other hand it is quite amusing when the usual Jack suspects invade our board attempting to wind us up only to get upset themselves when we prove what idiots they are.

This numpty is a prime example. When yet another of his theories is disproved his only answer is "that's unfair" (see above re stadium size, average attendances etc). Why attempt a wind up when you are as thick as shit & don't understand what you are talking about in the first place? Bless.

Did read one interesting statistic today. The player who came third in the Premiership yesterday for the number of long passes hit in the games played was none other than Mr Ashley "iniesta" Williams (with14 against Everton). Swanselona, my arse!!!

Im just questioning your theory's.. Swansea's attendances have improved and if our stadium was the same size as the CCS we would sell it out every week and you know we would.. Swansea's 40k+ to Cardiffs 35k+ at wembley proves it..

You have no clue how good Ashley Williams is.. and as calling me thick as shit it's the premier league not the premiership.. Cardiff are living in a little bubble that think they are big time but in reality they are a failing debt ridden average Championship club with ambitions that are delusional.. the Malaysians are putting you into more debt and will leave you as soon as theyve had enough.. financial fair play is coming very soon and it will hit Cardiff FC really hard

why do you keep bringing Wembley into this
your attendances took a huge hike since you got promoted and fairs fair people want to watch top flight football so they will turn up, you sell out the liberty week in week out, good would be worried if you didnt but so did Blackpool every week sold out. Now look at where Blackpool are now and where their attendances are im sure theyve retained some support from their Premiership season but most of it has gone.
if you want to look how big you are and compare it to other clubs look at your attendances before you play in the Premiership and who really cares about your club. Nobody gave a shit about Blackpool till they got promoted, nobody gave a shit about you until you got promoted and they will disappear if and when you get relegated. Have you ever wondered where all these supporters suddenly came from. Where as Cardiff has witnessed a steady incline in support and still playing in the 2nd tier.

oh and we are aware of Ashley Williams talents he does play for Wales

I do agree with Bish; although on the other hand it is quite amusing when the usual Jack suspects invade our board attempting to wind us up only to get upset themselves when we prove what idiots they are.

This numpty is a prime example. When yet another of his theories is disproved his only answer is "that's unfair" (see above re stadium size, average attendances etc). Why attempt a wind up when you are as thick as shit & don't understand what you are talking about in the first place? Bless.

Did read one interesting statistic today. The player who came third in the Premiership yesterday for the number of long passes hit in the games played was none other than Mr Ashley "iniesta" Williams (with14 against Everton). Swanselona, my arse!!!

Im just questioning your theory's.. Swansea's attendances have improved and if our stadium was the same size as the CCS we would sell it out every week and you know we would.. Swansea's 40k+ to Cardiffs 35k+ at wembley proves it..

You have no clue how good Ashley Williams is.. and as calling me thick as shit it's the premier league not the premiership.. Cardiff are living in a little bubble that think they are big time but in reality they are a failing debt ridden average Championship club with ambitions that are delusional.. the Malaysians are putting you into more debt and will leave you as soon as theyve had enough.. financial fair play is coming very soon and it will hit Cardiff FC really hard

why do you keep bringing Wembley into this
your attendances took a huge hike since you got promoted and fairs fair people want to watch top flight football so they will turn up, you sell out the liberty week in week out, good would be worried if you didnt but so did Blackpool every week sold out. Now look at where Blackpool are now and where their attendances are im sure theyve retained some support from their Premiership season but most of it has gone.
if you want to look how big you are and compare it to other clubs look at your attendances before you play in the Premiership and who really cares about your club. Nobody gave a shit about Blackpool till they got promoted, nobody gave a shit about you until you got promoted and they will disappear if and when you get relegated. Have you ever wondered where all these supporters suddenly came from. Where as Cardiff has witnessed a steady incline in support and still playing in the 2nd tier.

oh and we are aware of Ashley Williams talents he does play for Wales

They might disappear they might not who knows and Swansea have had a steady rise in support.. for around the last 10 games of the championship we sold out every game so i guess that is where they all come from.. your full of if's

I do agree with Bish; although on the other hand it is quite amusing when the usual Jack suspects invade our board attempting to wind us up only to get upset themselves when we prove what idiots they are.

This numpty is a prime example. When yet another of his theories is disproved his only answer is "that's unfair" (see above re stadium size, average attendances etc). Why attempt a wind up when you are as thick as shit & don't understand what you are talking about in the first place? Bless.

Did read one interesting statistic today. The player who came third in the Premiership yesterday for the number of long passes hit in the games played was none other than Mr Ashley "iniesta" Williams (with14 against Everton). Swanselona, my arse!!!

Im just questioning your theory's.. Swansea's attendances have improved and if our stadium was the same size as the CCS we would sell it out every week and you know we would.. Swansea's 40k+ to Cardiffs 35k+ at wembley proves it..

You have no clue how good Ashley Williams is.. and as calling me thick as shit it's the premier league not the premiership.. Cardiff are living in a little bubble that think they are big time but in reality they are a failing debt ridden average Championship club with ambitions that are delusional.. the Malaysians are putting you into more debt and will leave you as soon as theyve had enough.. financial fair play is coming very soon and it will hit Cardiff FC really hard

why do you keep bringing Wembley into this
your attendances took a huge hike since you got promoted and fairs fair people want to watch top flight football so they will turn up, you sell out the liberty week in week out, good would be worried if you didnt but so did Blackpool every week sold out. Now look at where Blackpool are now and where their attendances are im sure theyve retained some support from their Premiership season but most of it has gone.
if you want to look how big you are and compare it to other clubs look at your attendances before you play in the Premiership and who really cares about your club. Nobody gave a shit about Blackpool till they got promoted, nobody gave a shit about you until you got promoted and they will disappear if and when you get relegated. Have you ever wondered where all these supporters suddenly came from. Where as Cardiff has witnessed a steady incline in support and still playing in the 2nd tier.

oh and we are aware of Ashley Williams talents he does play for Wales

They might disappear they might not who knows and Swansea have had a steady rise in support.. for around the last 10 games of the championship we sold out every game so i guess that is where they all come from.. your full of if's

so where were they for the other 13 games
and of course its ifs we are talking about the future you cant predict the future
you could be the next Manchester United with worldwide support and a franchise worth billions or you could quickly turn into a team no one cares about.
but to be honest i think the history proves that as soon as you get relegated your support will flee like rats from a sinking ship and go back to supporting Liverpool and Manchester United from their arm chairs