The Good Ship Swansea City

The sun is out, Bellamys coming home, its Friday and now even more good news, happy days indeed!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS time for a stella or 2, buzzing now bring it on................ here we go here we go here we go..........going up going up when are you gonna believe us

How many times have you said this ?

Probably every season, same as most supporters blind optimism but the difference being this time is that I really do believe. The only first team player lost is Miller and we've brought in Lewis, Mutch, Velikonja, Helguson, Kim Bo Kyung and Bellamy so far. Add those to a squad that made the playoffs and was so close to winning the carling cup. Come on even the most partisan swansea fan must think we'll go all the way When are you gonna believe us!!!

The sun is out, Bellamys coming home, its Friday and now even more good news, happy days indeed!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS time for a stella or 2, buzzing now bring it on................ here we go here we go here we go..........going up going up when are you gonna believe us

How many times have you said this ?

Probably every season, same as most supporters blind optimism but the difference being this time is that I really do believe. The only first team player lost is Miller and we've brought in Lewis, Mutch, Velikonja, Helguson, Kim Bo Kyung and Bellamy so far. Add those to a squad that made the playoffs and was so close to winning the carling cup. Come on even the most partisan swansea fan must think we'll go all the way When are you gonna believe us!!!

I hate to say it but a fit bellamy might make the difference

The sun is out, Bellamys coming home, its Friday and now even more good news, happy days indeed!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS time for a stella or 2, buzzing now bring it on................ here we go here we go here we go..........going up going up when are you gonna believe us

How many times have you said this ?

Probably every season, same as most supporters blind optimism but the difference being this time is that I really do believe. The only first team player lost is Miller and we've brought in Lewis, Mutch, Velikonja, Helguson, Kim Bo Kyung and Bellamy so far. Add those to a squad that made the playoffs and was so close to winning the carling cup. Come on even the most partisan swansea fan must think we'll go all the way When are you gonna believe us!!!

I hate to say it but a fit bellamy might make the difference

Yeah that will be important for us, but I do feel we will have alot more options and be much more of a threat going forward this season.

Jacks cashing in?

The 80s all over again. They'll be like Darlington soon, with a big old crap stadium they don't know what to do with.

If I was a jack I'd be seriously worried.

The problem in the 80's was we blew all our money you clown , as you've got your crystal ball out , can I have tonights lottery numbers

It's gonna be 85 all over again.plenty of time to blow your cash on a bunch more Euro mercenaries.

Answer me this: Whats the longest laudrup has ever stayed at a club as manager?

4 years at Brondby.

I don't see how you think 'this time it will be different, I really believe' because you say that every year as well. You said that when Bellamy (two years younger than he is now) first joined and you had a team of individuals like Bellamy, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke, Whittingham, McNaughton etc, and you said that last year when you got rid of all the egos and had more of a team spirit. Now your going back to Bellamy again and saying the same thing you did in 2010/2011.

You really are like a rowing boat with only one oar, going round and round in circles and not getting anywhere.

Jacks cashing in?

The 80s all over again. They'll be like Darlington soon, with a big old crap stadium they don't know what to do with.

If I was a jack I'd be seriously worried.

The problem in the 80's was we blew all our money you clown , as you've got your crystal ball out , can I have tonights lottery numbers

It's gonna be 85 all over again.plenty of time to blow your cash on a bunch more Euro mercenaries.

Answer me this: Whats the longest laudrup has ever stayed at a club as manager?

4 years at Brondby.

I don't see how you think 'this time it will be different, I really believe' because you say that every year as well. You said that when Bellamy (two years younger than he is now) first joined and you had a team of individuals like Bellamy, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke, Whittingham, McNaughton etc, and you said that last year when you got rid of all the egos and had more of a team spirit. Now your going back to Bellamy again and saying the same thing you did in 2010/2011.

You really are like a rowing boat with only one oar, going round and round in circles and not getting anywhere.

Nah mate we've ditched the rowing boat more like a big f*cking destroyer now

Jacks cashing in?

The 80s all over again. They'll be like Darlington soon, with a big old crap stadium they don't know what to do with.

If I was a jack I'd be seriously worried.

The problem in the 80's was we blew all our money you clown , as you've got your crystal ball out , can I have tonights lottery numbers

It's gonna be 85 all over again.plenty of time to blow your cash on a bunch more Euro mercenaries.

Answer me this: Whats the longest laudrup has ever stayed at a club as manager?

4 years at Brondby.

I don't see how you think 'this time it will be different, I really believe' because you say that every year as well. You said that when Bellamy (two years younger than he is now) first joined and you had a team of individuals like Bellamy, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke, Whittingham, McNaughton etc, and you said that last year when you got rid of all the egos and had more of a team spirit. Now your going back to Bellamy again and saying the same thing you did in 2010/2011.

You really are like a rowing boat with only one oar, going round and round in circles and not getting anywhere.

Just got ourselves a rudder.

Jacks cashing in?

The 80s all over again. They'll be like Darlington soon, with a big old crap stadium they don't know what to do with.

If I was a jack I'd be seriously worried.

The problem in the 80's was we blew all our money you clown , as you've got your crystal ball out , can I have tonights lottery numbers

It's gonna be 85 all over again.plenty of time to blow your cash on a bunch more Euro mercenaries.

Answer me this: Whats the longest laudrup has ever stayed at a club as manager?

4 years at Brondby.

I don't see how you think 'this time it will be different, I really believe' because you say that every year as well. You said that when Bellamy (two years younger than he is now) first joined and you had a team of individuals like Bellamy, Bothroyd, Chopra, Burke, Whittingham, McNaughton etc, and you said that last year when you got rid of all the egos and had more of a team spirit. Now your going back to Bellamy again and saying the same thing you did in 2010/2011.

You really are like a rowing boat with only one oar, going round and round in circles and not getting anywhere.

Nah mate we've ditched the rowing boat more like a big f*cking destroyer now

Your mistaking that destroyed for you own. That destroyer belongs to Vincent Tan and he's about to blow your rowing boat to a thousand pieces

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

We left them out of pocket once The sort of money that we owed them was 5 figures, your debt is in to 9 figures

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

We left them out of pocket once The sort of money that we owed them was 5 figures, your debt is in to 9 figures

Answer the question because i,m sure some of the businesses would also like to know, is the wessel going tom do the honourable thing????

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

Pay Sam what you owe him then , and the guy with the transfer money

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

Pay Sam what you owe him then , and the guy with the transfer money

There is no proof that sam is owed any money from the club and if he is it is not due BY LAW until 2016, ray ransons money is a condition of players getting transfered, if no transfers take place he receives no money, in the mean time we are up to date with our payments to local businesses, how about you???

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

We left them out of pocket once The sort of money that we owed them was 5 figures, your debt is in to 9 figures

Answer the question because i,m sure some of the businesses would also like to know, is the wessel going tom do the honourable thing????

answer the question are ccfc going to pay people what they owe

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

Pay Sam what you owe him then , and the guy with the transfer money

There is no proof that sam is owed any money from the club and if he is it is not due BY LAW until 2016, ray ransons money is a condition of players getting transfered, if no transfers take place he receives no money, in the mean time we are up to date with our payments to local businesses, how about you???

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

We left them out of pocket once The sort of money that we owed them was 5 figures, your debt is in to 9 figures

Answer the question because i,m sure some of the businesses would also like to know, is the wessel going tom do the honourable thing????

answer the question are ccfc going to pay people what they owe

I just have you idiot.

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

We left them out of pocket once The sort of money that we owed them was 5 figures, your debt is in to 9 figures

Answer the question because i,m sure some of the businesses would also like to know, is the wessel going tom do the honourable thing????

Local businesses were owed in the region of £60k. Most of them have benefited spectacularly from our success since then.

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

We left them out of pocket once The sort of money that we owed them was 5 figures, your debt is in to 9 figures

Answer the question because i,m sure some of the businesses would also like to know, is the wessel going tom do the honourable thing????

Local businesses were owed in the region of £60k. Most of them have benefited spectacularly from our success since then.

Does that include the ones that went out of business????

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

We left them out of pocket once The sort of money that we owed them was 5 figures, your debt is in to 9 figures

Answer the question because i,m sure some of the businesses would also like to know, is the wessel going tom do the honourable thing????

Local businesses were owed in the region of £60k. Most of them have benefited spectacularly from our success since then.

Does that include the ones that went out of business????

Which ones went out of business as a result of our CVA?

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

We left them out of pocket once The sort of money that we owed them was 5 figures, your debt is in to 9 figures

Answer the question because i,m sure some of the businesses would also like to know, is the wessel going tom do the honourable thing????

answer the question are ccfc going to pay people what they owe

I just have you idiot.

So that's a no then, just deny you even owe them money

How's about this, you pay up the £100 million you owe, and we'll pay our local buisnesses the £60k we don't neccesarily owe them (as we don't have any debt) but that we left them out of pocket

Why would Laudrup be leaving anytime soon then?

Allen and Sinclair for 20m though.Yes please

Could also be good news for all the local businesses you,ve shafted TWICE before, because surely with all this extra wealth you are getting, (approx £20 million) that wessel jenkins will do the honourable thing and chuck a few bob their way will he not?????

Pay Sam what you owe him then , and the guy with the transfer money

There is no proof that sam is owed any money from the club and if he is it is not due BY LAW until 2016, ray ransons money is a condition of players getting transfered, if no transfers take place he receives no money, in the mean time we are up to date with our payments to local businesses, how about you???

if you don't settle that debt until 2016 then vt will be lending you money at 7% for the next 4yrs ,because doesn't this equity thing hinge on that debt being paid , and if there is no debt why has 10mill been set aside , your talking bollocks now fella

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Can't be arsed to read all the posts in this thread especially as its degenerated into the same old stuff. In terms of the original point, my view is that Allen is never worth 15m so had to be sold at that price. I think it's a big blow to the jacks but a lot depends on who they get and how much it costs as clubs will know how much they got for Allen so prices will get inflated.

I really hope it works out for him but if not then I can see him back with them in a year or two, but for the sake of the welsh team I hope be develops into one of the very best.

More importantly why are team GB so shit at the relays?

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Because this is a board for ccfc fans who do you support?
But guess can't read or closet city fans! Life at your club is so fcking boreing ! Mickey mouse signings rats abandoning ship! Have fun now but you no things are crap at you fantasically run club! How many managers ln 4yrs?
and owner keeping his wallet closed! Could it be he sees. ,£££s signs ready for tax haven bank account!

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And then there was silence

Because this is a board for ccfc fans who do you support?
But guess can't read or closet city fans! Life at your club is so fcking boreing ! Mickey mouse signings rats abandoning ship! Have fun now but you no things are crap at you fantasically run club! How many managers ln 4yrs?
and owner keeping his wallet closed! Could it be he sees. ,£££s signs ready for tax haven bank account!

Boring? From League 2 to Premier League mid table in 8 years, yeh really, really boring.

Meanwhile in those 8 years you've been playing in the same division

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And then there was silence

Because this is a board for ccfc fans who do you support?
But guess can't read or closet city fans! Life at your club is so fcking boreing ! Mickey mouse signings rats abandoning ship! Have fun now but you no things are crap at you fantasically run club! How many managers ln 4yrs?
and owner keeping his wallet closed! Could it be he sees. ,£££s signs ready for tax haven bank account!

Which owner is that?

You lot seriously are deluded. You have just been fucked over by Tan who ripped the heart and soul out of Cardiff City and are looking West making judgements about your rivals who are not only in the Premier League but run in ways you lot can only dream of. We picked up over £50 million for our first season in the Premier League with the promise of over £90 regardless of what happens this season. We are attracting some top quality players who are more than capable of filling the void left by the likes of Allen and Sinclair if he does leave, we are managed by one of the biggest names in world football which bodes well when trying to spend our transfer budget on replacements.

We are light years ahead of you on and off the pitch, you know it, we know it and everyone else knows it

You lot seriously are deluded. You have just been fucked over by Tan who ripped the heart and soul out of Cardiff City and are looking West making judgements about your rivals who are not only in the Premier League but run in ways you lot can only dream of. We picked up over £50 million for our first season in the Premier League with the promise of over £90 regardless of what happens this season. We are attracting some top quality players who are more than capable of filling the void left by the likes of Allen and Sinclair if he does leave, we are managed by one of the biggest names in world football which bodes well when trying to spend our transfer budget on replacements.

We are light years ahead of you on and off the pitch, you know it, we know it and everyone else knows it

Nice rant. Couple of points. Firstly Laudrup being a great player means nothing 15 years later and it's all about him as a manager now (I'm not saying he's crap or brilliant, just making a point).
Secondly I think light years is a slight exaggeration when in reality if we get promoted and you relegated, then it all changes around. Not saying either will happen, but it could be a year, not a light year

You lot seriously are deluded. You have just been fucked over by Tan who ripped the heart and soul out of Cardiff City and are looking West making judgements about your rivals who are not only in the Premier League but run in ways you lot can only dream of. We picked up over £50 million for our first season in the Premier League with the promise of over £90 regardless of what happens this season. We are attracting some top quality players who are more than capable of filling the void left by the likes of Allen and Sinclair if he does leave, we are managed by one of the biggest names in world football which bodes well when trying to spend our transfer budget on replacements.

We are light years ahead of you on and off the pitch, you know it, we know it and everyone else knows it

Nice rant. Couple of points. Firstly Laudrup being a great player means nothing 15 years later and it's all about him as a manager now (I'm not saying he's crap or brilliant, just making a point).
Secondly I think light years is a slight exaggeration when in reality if we get promoted and you relegated, then it all changes around. Not saying either will happen, but it could be a year, not a light year

I didnt say it would make him a great manager, I said it would bode well with us attracting players as it already has with the likes of De Guzman.

Your prediction may come true this season, but we will still be a better run club than you and havent had to pull our pants down and get fucked over and lose our whole identity either.

What makes me laugh is the attitude of the majority of your fans, you seriously think your a better club than us at this moment in time. Your a f*cking laughing stock with the whole identity scandal yet idiots like City Gent think its funny to try and poke fun at us for selling a player for 15 million quid. Great bit of business for us and Allen.

As for the shit being spouted about loyalty I think the OP is forgetting you lot have been a selling club for years, Ramsey, Earnshaw, Chopra, Jerome etc all sold on at their peak when they were with you and you still ended up £80 million in debt, what a f*cking joke.

You lot seriously are deluded. You have just been fucked over by Tan who ripped the heart and soul out of Cardiff City and are looking West making judgements about your rivals who are not only in the Premier League but run in ways you lot can only dream of. We picked up over £50 million for our first season in the Premier League with the promise of over £90 regardless of what happens this season. We are attracting some top quality players who are more than capable of filling the void left by the likes of Allen and Sinclair if he does leave, we are managed by one of the biggest names in world football which bodes well when trying to spend our transfer budget on replacements.

We are light years ahead of you on and off the pitch, you know it, we know it and everyone else knows it

Nice rant. Couple of points. Firstly Laudrup being a great player means nothing 15 years later and it's all about him as a manager now (I'm not saying he's crap or brilliant, just making a point).
Secondly I think light years is a slight exaggeration when in reality if we get promoted and you relegated, then it all changes around. Not saying either will happen, but it could be a year, not a light year

I didnt say it would make him a great manager, I said it would bode well with us attracting players as it already has with the likes of De Guzman.

Your prediction may come true this season, but we will still be a better run club than you and havent had to pull our pants down and get fucked over and lose our whole identity either.

What makes me laugh is the attitude of the majority of your fans, you seriously think your a better club than us at this moment in time. Your a f*cking laughing stock with the whole identity scandal yet idiots like City Gent think its funny to try and poke fun at us for selling a player for 15 million quid. Great bit of business for us and Allen.

As for the shit being spouted about loyalty I think the OP is forgetting you lot have been a selling club for years, Ramsey, Earnshaw, Chopra, Jerome etc all sold on at their peak when they were with you and you still ended up £80 million in debt, what a f*cking joke.

Chill fella. You t keep banging the laughing stock drum but that's wishful thinking. Don't think most of football really care and once the season is underway on the pitch events will take over. You can't really comment on how well our club is run as the Malaysians are in the process of dealing with previous owners mistakes so lets see what happens. All I know is that you don't become a billionaire by not knowing how to run a business properly.

As for selling players, every club is a selling club if the price is right and very few can afford not to sell, perhaps Man city?